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143 Responses to “Let It Sink In: 8:46”


  1. 1 vcprezofan2
    July 8, 2020 at 12:50 pm

    Good morning …oops, afternoon, everyone!

  2. 3 Betsy
    July 8, 2020 at 12:52 pm

    Thank you NW for everything you do for us here on TOD. As a white person, I have learned so much from everyone on here which has changed me for the better forever. It’s made me a better teacher of American history to young 13-14 year olds, it’s made me a better friend and person. I have a long way to go, but I’m glad to be on the journey of change.

  3. 8 jer44
    July 8, 2020 at 1:00 pm

    SOON: Joe Biden speaks at IBEW virtual political conference – https://abcnews.go.com/live/video/special-live-5

  4. 9 nena20409
    July 8, 2020 at 1:03 pm

    Good Afternoon, TODbots.🤗🙏💪💙💪🙏🤗
    Thank you, NW…The above Tweet Thread, 100% accurate.🙇‍♀️🙌🙏💪🙏

  5. 10 nena20409
    July 8, 2020 at 1:07 pm

    • 11 marleysperson
      July 8, 2020 at 1:32 pm

  6. 12 nena20409
    July 8, 2020 at 1:09 pm

  7. July 8, 2020 at 1:10 pm

    This fall at Harvard University all classes will be virtual and still cost $50K.
    Professor Tressie McMillam Cottom, Higher Education, technology, cultural & inequality at UNC Chapel Hill.
    Author: “Lower Ed: The Troubling Rise of For-Profit Colleges in the New Economy” speaks to Chris Hayes:
    McMillam Cottom:
    “What this says to me is that when a school has all of the resources available to it,
    and has the ability to afford the luxury of putting student health and welfare first, they choose to go on-line.
    The takeaway there is that all institutions should be able to afford to put their students’ wellbeing and health above profit, above office, above sustainability, above their ability to open and provide jobs, or be a local economic engine for people. But not every institution has the luxury of making that choice. That brings up the issue of who should give us the luxury of making that choice?”
    Hayes: “I saw someone comment on this…if Harvard University says with all the resources, this is the best we can do for everyone’s safety, which is all classes are virtual. We’re only going to have 40% of students on campus…like what does that say for every other school, and other schools, like you said they have to worry that people aren’t going to pay the tuition, they’re not going to show up, they’re not going to have enough enrollment if they’re doing Zoom. So there’s a strong incentive to put butts in the seats, which I really worry about.”

    • July 8, 2020 at 1:12 pm

      McMillam Cottom:
      “As do I. And as do many faculty members, staff members, the people who make up the institutions that comprise higher education in the United States of America are actually quite concerned about the incentives of putting butts in seats. You see those who have faculty unions, for example like CUNEY are pushing back. Those who in the position to do so are…trying to speak up in favor of putting the health and welfare, of not just the students, but the staff members and the faculties members on university campuses. We are more than just the time that we spend in the classroom. Universities are complete ecosystems. They are communities. And if there is a public health incentive for us to social distance, to self-isolate, and to withdraw from some social interaction, then there absolutely must be an incentive for us to do so on a College campus. But the question becomes why would an institution make the distinction that does not put a student’s health and welfare up front? And that’s what we get from the Harvard case. And there are economic incentives to for us choose something other than what is….our education campus. This is where a robust federal and state requirement would be ideal. Harvard can afford to do it. The United States of American can afford to do it for all colleges and universities. We have chosen not to do so.”

    • July 8, 2020 at 1:15 pm

      “A global health pandemic is larger than a customer.
      “A global health pandemic requires a citizen response.”
      Hayes: “Your point there is so crucial…what are colleges are for…credential, experience…a huge part of this is saying the experience is a big part of it…but if we’re saying the experience itself…that itself is unsafe…you can’t have the experience…you can’t do zoom with kindergartners…”
      McMillam Cottom:
      “Well there is a workable way to do it for students and for citizens, there is not a workable way to do it for customers, Chris. And that’s where we find ourselves…of conditioning people to think of higher education as any other consumer good. And to think of students and families as customers, now have to pay the piper. The customer wants a certain experience, while customers are not the right sort of framework to think about the moment that we are in. A global health pandemic is larger than a customer. A global health pandemic requires a citizen response. A public response. The problem is we’ve spent a lot of time starving our public institutions of the very idea of the public and citizenship. Because of that, we now have to deal with customers when we would probably prefer to deal with students.”

    • July 8, 2020 at 1:16 pm

      Hayes: “There’s also the best laid plan…no plan is going to survive first contact with an outbreak…if you don’t suppress the virus none of it’s happening.”
      McMillam Cottom:
      “The plans right now…listen I am very empathetic to those whose jobs rely on them producing a workable plan. The thing about public education, there are a lot of stake holders. There are a lot of people that institutions have to satisfy, a lot of political games and political rhetoric that shapes our ability to do our jobs and to operate…is being undermined. So I’m empathetic to that. But plans right now are really just to manage our anxiety. None of us are able to predict what the virus will do and I think that is especially important to keep in mind is we also can’t predict what our president will do.”

  8. 18 nena20409
    July 8, 2020 at 1:15 pm

  9. 19 jer44
    July 8, 2020 at 1:16 pm

  10. July 8, 2020 at 1:20 pm

    Please follow and support Lt. Colonel Vindman.

  11. July 8, 2020 at 1:23 pm

  12. 22 ggail44
    July 8, 2020 at 1:31 pm

    WoW! This threat of tweets is spot on! Thank you Nerdy ❤

  13. July 8, 2020 at 1:44 pm

  14. 26 nena20409
    July 8, 2020 at 2:04 pm

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  16. 28 marleysperson
    July 8, 2020 at 2:53 pm

    Seems like great advice

  17. 29 marleysperson
    July 8, 2020 at 2:56 pm

    Truth

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  20. 34 marleysperson
    July 8, 2020 at 3:28 pm

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  22. 38 pkayden
    July 8, 2020 at 3:49 pm

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  24. 40 marleysperson
    July 8, 2020 at 4:48 pm

    This please!

  25. 42 marleysperson
    July 8, 2020 at 4:51 pm

    EXACTLY RIGHT!!

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  27. July 8, 2020 at 5:30 pm

    THIS is a great ad

  28. 47 Nerdy Wonka
    July 8, 2020 at 5:31 pm

  29. 48 Don
    July 8, 2020 at 5:34 pm

    Ain’t no way in hell we’re sending our son to school in August during a goddamn pandemic. It’s bad enough that we both risk our lives when we go to work, but I’ll be damned if that risk will be passed on to our child.

  30. 49 Don
    July 8, 2020 at 5:38 pm

    I miss those slow boring weekends when Barack and Joe were running shit. But look at us now, we have a daily death count that rises with no end in sight.

  31. 51 jer44
    July 8, 2020 at 6:40 pm

  32. 52 nena20409
    July 8, 2020 at 6:47 pm

  33. 53 jer44
    July 8, 2020 at 6:54 pm

  34. 54 jer44
    July 8, 2020 at 7:04 pm

  35. 55 jer44
    July 8, 2020 at 7:07 pm

  36. 57 marleysperson
    July 8, 2020 at 8:17 pm

    • 58 Don
      July 8, 2020 at 8:37 pm

      I think Roberts will side with the Dems, I also think on some level he worries about his legacy. I will be floored if he sticks with Alito and Thomas and the gang.

  37. July 8, 2020 at 8:37 pm

    LOL!

  38. July 8, 2020 at 9:29 pm

  39. 65 nena20409
    July 8, 2020 at 9:38 pm

  40. 66 pkayden
    July 8, 2020 at 9:48 pm

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  42. 68 marleysperson
    July 8, 2020 at 9:59 pm

  43. 69 pkayden
    July 8, 2020 at 10:56 pm

    • 70 Don
      July 8, 2020 at 11:21 pm

      For sure he wants to be re-elected, but not because he thinks he can solve all of our problems. He wants to be re-elected so he can protect himself from being prosecuted for all the shady shit he’s done. Trump doesn’t give one fuck about being a good President, he never did, his only mission was to enrich himself through the Presidency.

  44. 71 marleysperson
    July 8, 2020 at 11:05 pm

    You don’t say.

  45. July 8, 2020 at 11:18 pm

  46. 74 marleysperson
    July 8, 2020 at 11:45 pm

    Yes, Ma’am

    • July 9, 2020 at 7:09 am

      Absolutely.

      tRump wants to *force* schools to re-open by threatening to withhold federal funds (and in the case of colleges, deporting international students if the schools go to an online curriculum). Yet, he won’t step up [TAKE RESPONSIBILITY] to do the things that might make it possible to SAFELY go back to school…later rather than sooner. He wants to wash his hands of dealing with the states when he SHOULD be taking the lead; when he actually has to think and rationalize and understand about the sciences involved and weigh the cost of human lives against the cost to the economy; not seeming to grasp that the economy won’t truly recover until we get this pandemic under control. Yet, NOW he wants to take the lead and try to force states to comply with his demands, not because it is good for the country but because he wants to make himself look good — prior to the election…STILL not taking responsibility but putting the onus on the states to make it work.

      He sees this as a competition with other countries. From day one, he didn’t want to use the science and techniques that other countries had put in place and had proven positive results. Instead, he wanted to recreate the wheel, probably looking to generate profits for himself and his cronies in the process. He is always comparing testing and deaths (in most cases inaccurately) claiming that the US is leading. [Yes, the US is leading but not in the things we want to and need top be leading in.]

      Now he is looking at other countries that have re-opened schools with seeming success. He is not taking into consideration that these countries have gotten better control of the pandemic because their leadership was willing to make tough decisions and their citizens were willing to make sacrifices. [US citizens are too entitled to make the relatively short-term sacrifices needed to get this pandemic under control. Heck, many of us think it’s a violation of our freedom to have a mandate to wear a mask when you go out.] He is not considering that even with opening, these countries have strict guidelines that are being followed. tRump wants to open in the midst of spiking positive virus test numbers AND scale down the CDC guidelines.

      At the end of the day, I hope that states and local school districts decide that the percentage of school funding received from the fed is not worth the headaches — and heartaches — that will result from rushing to open schools without a well, thought out plan and guidelines that will keep students, teachers, administration and staff, bus drivers, et.al. safe.

      I believe, however, that most parents will go with their best instincts and keep their children at home.

      What good is opening schools if you have empty buildings and not enough staff to efficient and effectively operate???

    • July 9, 2020 at 7:23 am

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  48. 79 jacquelineoboomer
    July 9, 2020 at 1:50 am

  49. 80 jacquelineoboomer
    July 9, 2020 at 1:58 am

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  53. July 9, 2020 at 7:21 am

    Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, and Nebraska’s 2nd district move from Toss Up to Lean Democrat.

    Maine, once in Lean Democrat, moves to the safer Likely Democratic category.

    Georgia has joined Arizona, North Carolina and Florida in the Toss Up column, although, at this point, Biden would be slightly favored to win at least Arizona and Florida.

    Maine’s 2nd district has moved from Likely Republican to a more competitive Lean Republican.

    These moves alone push Biden over the 270 electoral vote threshold (to 279).

  54. July 9, 2020 at 7:28 am

    Is Fox joining the “fake news”(according to tRump) brigade?

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  60. July 9, 2020 at 9:32 am

    The court is expected to issue two rulings: one covering subpoenas issued by House committees and one concerning a subpoena from the New York grand jury.

  61. 96 marleysperson
    July 9, 2020 at 9:58 am

    Morning everyone

  62. July 9, 2020 at 10:00 am

    “Desperate measures in Arizona as COVID-19 overwhelms hospitals”
    “Dr. Theresa Cullen, public health director for Pima County, Arizona, talks with Rachel Maddow about the shocking rate of increase in new cases in her county and the mitigation measures being taken given limited options and scarce hospital bed space.”
    (https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow/watch/desperate-measures-in-arizona-as-covid-19-overwhelms-hospitals-87259717998)

    • July 9, 2020 at 10:02 am

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  65. July 9, 2020 at 10:16 am

    This site will not post updates or stats on COVID-19.
    Have attempted to do so multiple times regarding Arizona which is now peaking higher than NY at its worst.

  66. July 9, 2020 at 10:17 am

    MAZAR up next……..

  67. 109 jer44
    July 9, 2020 at 10:18 am

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    July 9, 2020 at 10:20 am

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    July 9, 2020 at 10:25 am

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  75. July 9, 2020 at 10:32 am

    Thread 👇🏾👇🏾👇🏾

  76. 124 nena20409
    July 9, 2020 at 10:33 am

    Good Morning, Good Morning…🥁🎶🥁🎶🙏💪💙💪🙏⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐🙌🙌🎉✨🎈🎈🎈✨🎉🍷🍾🥂🥳🍸🎤💥💥7-2 minus the Thomas(72yo) & Alito(70yo)

  77. 125 jer44
    July 9, 2020 at 10:40 am

  78. 126 jer44
    July 9, 2020 at 10:46 am

  79. July 9, 2020 at 10:46 am

    DEMOCRACY SAVED…part 1.

  80. 128 jer44
    July 9, 2020 at 10:49 am

  81. 129 jer44
    July 9, 2020 at 10:50 am

  82. 130 jer44
    July 9, 2020 at 10:53 am

  83. 132 jer44
    July 9, 2020 at 11:07 am

  84. July 9, 2020 at 11:08 am

    Doom’s excuse for risking the lives of students and educators:
    “In Germany, Denmark, Norway, Sweden and many other countries, schools are open with no problems.”
    CAN HE READ THIS?
    Covid-19 new cases per day:
    Denmark: 10
    Norway: 11
    Sweden: 283
    United States: 58,238
    1) That is why they can open their schools and we cannot.
    2) Because of your negligence, irresponsibility, denial, refusal to act, laziness, and tendency to KILL.

  85. 134 jer44
    July 9, 2020 at 11:10 am

    LIVE NOW:

    • July 9, 2020 at 11:48 am

      SPEAKER PELOSI:
      “For the 16th week in a row, over one million Americans applied for unemployment insurance.
      16th week in a row. We have to open up our economy. We can only do so by killing off the virus.
      That’s what’s in the Heroes Act. Testing, tracing, treatment, separation. Masking. Wash your hands. Keep your distance as I said. That is what is in the Heroes Act. All of the scientific pronouncements have spoken to the need for more testing and the urgency of tracing. And the benefit of treatment. So that people do not die. Again this administration seems to be turning its back on science. And instead (they are) saying:
      “open up, take a risk – open up the schools”.
      As a mother and a grandmother we all, everybody I know, wants to open up the schools. Indeed a large percentage, overwhelmingly the teachers, want to open up the schools. But it has to be safe for the children. And to be safe for the children, we must attack this coronavirus. We must kill it off. We cannot ignore it and we cannot call it a hoax. And we cannot misrepresent the facts as to what the status of it is.
      In order for our children to go back to school, our state and local governments have to function.
      That’s what the Heroes Act is about, the first piece of it. Honor our heroes. State and Local Government. Our first responders, our teachers, our teachers, our teachers. Our healthcare workers who risk their lives to save other lives, and now they may lose their jobs. Over a million public employees have lost their jobs in the course of this coronavirus. And we can change that if we make a commitment in the Heroes Act to State and Local Government. And by the way, go there…and see how much money goes to your community…and then recognize that it is only one half of what the Republicans gave to the top one percent in their tax scam. And their tax scam cost twice as much as what we want to spend to open up Government to provide the services that people need, to open up our economy, to open up our schools.”

  86. 136 nena20409
    July 9, 2020 at 11:24 am

  87. July 9, 2020 at 11:27 am

    • 138 mae52
      July 9, 2020 at 12:26 pm

      After hundreds of years of treating black lives as cheap of course other lives will be worth less if i can do it to blacks why cant i do it to none republicans and those i dont like?

  88. 140 marleysperson
    July 9, 2020 at 11:29 am

    Wait, wuuuut???

  89. July 9, 2020 at 11:42 am

    Powerful, to say the least. I can’t imagine the horror in her life every moment of every day given that her husband is in the military

    Goodnight TOD.

  90. July 9, 2020 at 12:15 pm


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