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Why Voting Matters


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  1. July 7, 2020 at 2:46 pm

    thank you for your great work, every day, NW.

  2. July 7, 2020 at 2:48 pm

    “Stay-at-home order is best hope for Texas stricken by coronavirus”
    “Judge Lina Hidalgo, executive of Harris County, Tx, talks with Chris Hayes about the need for a stay-at-home order in Texas as a last ditch effort to get the coronavirus in Texas under control.”

    • 5 Don
      July 7, 2020 at 5:15 pm

      Texas, Florida, or whichever other state that’s run by a Trump sycophant could not care any less about its citizenry. They pay tribute to Trump with human lives.

  3. July 7, 2020 at 2:50 pm

    CDC has been refusing to release data about the disparate effects of COVID-19 on Black and Brown people. Following a freedom for information act lawsuit filed by NYT we now can see what was in those data.
    It shows that Black and Latino people contract the virus at nearly 3 times the rate of their white neighbors.
    “That disparity remains true across states, across people who live cities, suburbs and rural communities. Even across different age groups. No matter what you try and control for, the people most affected by this novel coronavirus are the same people who have borne the brunt of America’s much older plagues of housing segregation, wealth inequality, police brutality, and mass incarceration. And this revelation comes just as the nation is in the midst of a once-in-a-generation, civil rights demonstration from city to city against those same institutional prejudices.” (Hayes)

    • July 7, 2020 at 2:51 pm

      Senator Corey Booker is one of the members of Congress who pushed for the release of that data.
      Hayes: “Why was it so important to you?”
      Senator Booker:
      “Well we know we have a country with wild health care disparities already. And we knew that this was going to be in particular a help in dealing with what I saw firsthand as a guy who lives in a majority African American city, that this virus was ravaging African American communities. And even to have strategies to deal with something you need to have the data that can inform those strategies. And so it was very important to me and other members of Congress to get that information.”

    • July 7, 2020 at 2:53 pm

      Hayes: “What is your reaction to seeing it laid out the way the CDC has…it is quite stark how the pattern is across so many different areas.”
      Senator Booker:
      “You know it reveals what is the truth about our country. Is we have these profound racial disparities that penetrate so many areas of American life. From employment to the criminal justice system, you’ve written about that eloquently. But also to the areas of health care. You know I’ve been dealing with one of the founders, along with Tammy Duckworth and the Environmental Caucus. She and I both know that the number one indicator of whether you’re going to be drinking dirty water, whether you’re going to be breathing toxic air, whether you’re going to live around toxic superfund sites, is the number one indicator is the color of your skin. We have African Americans that have less access to health care and more. So this is not surprising to me, but it does highlight the urgency of this moment.”

    • July 7, 2020 at 2:54 pm

      Hayes: “These protests that are by some measures the largest that we’ve seen in decades, starts with the killing of George Floyd…the disparities that you are talking about are so profound and so extent, what do you think about the national conversations we are having right now, more than a month after Mr. Floyd’s death?”

    • July 7, 2020 at 2:56 pm

      Senator Booker:
      “First of all I’m encouraged to see the kind of dialogue, conversations and movement that we have, but we are just in the foothills of the mountain we have to climb in this country. And have to come to grips with. And speak truth about. This is not going to be an easy quick fix. There are not some corporations who pull down their pancake mix, or change the name of a product, or put a little bit of more emphasis on diversity. These are actually deep structural problems in our country that actually hurt everyone. Economic disparities, educational disparities, these have a financial impact on the flourishing of our nation as a whole. And there’s an urgency that we actually go deeper than we are right now. So this is an encouraging beginning. But if America really stops and looks plain at the data, and really the not deep historical roots, we don’t have to go back many generations. As you wrote about, again in your great book, this was by design in my lifetime. I mean I told the story a lot on the campaign trail last year. I was a baby when my parents had to get a white couple to pose as them to buy a house, and be the first Black family to integrate a part of New Jersey. Because housing segregation was so stark. Well following from housing segregation is the disparate educational opportunities people get…these are all deeply entrenched problems that we created as a society by consciously doing it, and now it is systemically apparent. But to deal with this we have to have the same conscious intention. And the first thing we have to do is be aware of the depth of the problem. That is where I’m hoping this conversation as a nation goes.”

    • July 7, 2020 at 2:57 pm

      Hayes: “One of the other huge disparities…the likelihood of young Black men being victims of violence…we have seen in the last few weeks there have been some really worrying data…Atlanta, Minneapolis…year over year increases in shooting and homicides…a certain argument being made…who tend to be conservative saying look this is what happens…you protest the police…and you say you want to defund…and then we get violent crime. As someone that was the Mayor of Newark and lives in Newark still…I want to hear your response to people making that argument.”

    • July 7, 2020 at 2:59 pm

      Senator Booker:
      “It is shamefully shallow and it hurts. Look, I don’t need to watch the TV. I’ve lived this experience.
      Right a block up the street from where I used to live in these high rise projects, these beautiful brilliant children, boys used to hang out in the lobby. The first one who died was Hassan Washington back in 2006. The last one who died was Shahad Smith shot with an assault rifle at the top of the block that I lived on. The numbers of the kids that I know are dead right now, in a world that is constantly assaulting them, from poisoning them with the water that they drank, assaulting their lungs with the air they breathe, denying them equal educational rights, I could go so deeply into all the causes. And we know. I can show the data that extending Medicaid lowers violence. Family partnerships lowers violence. Economic security programs, expanding the earned income tax credit lowers violence in America. Why are we thinking that public safety in America, true safety and security means more police or less police? True safety and security in America is investing in the things that…human flourishing. My first meeting with the FBI when I was Mayor of the city Newark and I asked him about the gang problems, how we solve this, he looks at me honestly and says “We don’t solved these problems.” In other words he knew that these problems stem from a poverty of empathy in our nation. And god, we want to talk about being the kind of beloved community that’s necessary to prevent this level of violence and death and attacks and assaults on Black bodies in our country. We have to have a deeper conversation that is far more focused on a more substantive type of love that’s evident in policies, in investments, and true caring about children to prevent problems from happening before we read about them in newspapers and in our statistics.”

  4. 15 marleysperson
    July 7, 2020 at 3:03 pm

    Voting always matters

  5. 16 jacquelineoboomer
    July 7, 2020 at 3:37 pm

  6. 17 pkayden
    July 7, 2020 at 3:56 pm

  7. 18 jer44
    July 7, 2020 at 3:56 pm

  8. 20 jer44
    July 7, 2020 at 4:00 pm

  9. 24 jer44
    July 7, 2020 at 4:02 pm

  10. 25 jer44
    July 7, 2020 at 4:12 pm

  11. 27 jer44
    July 7, 2020 at 4:31 pm

    • 28 catrst
      July 7, 2020 at 7:52 pm

      Just listening to a few of the reports of Mary Trump’s book coming out I was thinking, when highly narcissistic family systems are described, whether it’s family of origin or marriages, it’s going to sound to those who have not experienced it as over dramatized or exaggerated. It’s just hard for those that are not affected to imagine and so can be countered as untrue. It’s very similar to the recounting of actual demeaning and threatening situations POC are exposed to on a regular basis and how hard it is to get someone who has not been put in those situations to hear the truth and not minimize.

  12. 29 pkayden
    July 7, 2020 at 4:48 pm

  13. 31 Don
    July 7, 2020 at 5:03 pm

    Today when I got to work my immediate supervisor and the department head where in my office shooting the breeze and waiting to hand off everything to me. I sat on the couch and told the both of them that I’m retiring next august. I just can’t do the work anymore, it’s not the physical stress but the mental stress. I don’t get paid for what I do, I get paid for what I might have to do. I just want to go and exhale, and maybe do something else or not.

    • July 7, 2020 at 5:15 pm

      YOU GO, DON!! (Figuratively and literally! 🙂 )

    • 33 vcprezofan2
      July 7, 2020 at 5:25 pm

      Don do you mean ‘next August’ as in August 2020? I can’t imagine you giving your bosses such short notice OR such long notice, if you mean 2021! Also, isn’t there normally a lot of paperwork involved in retiring? I know you’ve mentioned before that you want to go but …

      Anyhoo, whatever you do mean, I do wish you all the best for this impending new stage of life.

      • 34 Don
        July 7, 2020 at 5:40 pm

        I’m eligible to go now, I can walk into personnel tomorrow and retire on the spot. They will smile and start the paperwork, and it wouldn’t be a big deal because it happens all the time. But for practical reasons central office would like to receive notice between 6 to 9 months out just so all your paperwork is completed and your pension can start flowing. My job has a mandatory retirement at 57, I’m 53, I can stay four more years but it wouldn’t necessarily enhance my pension all that much which is pretty good as it stands.

        • 35 Don
          July 7, 2020 at 5:44 pm

          I’m sorry I didn’t even answer your first question, I’m leaving August 2021.

        • 36 vcprezofan2
          July 7, 2020 at 5:49 pm

          Okay. I sure can understand the desire to leave soon given all that’s happening/not happening these days, particularly since staying longer won’t make a big difference to your pension. As I said earlier “Best Wishes” however you decide to roll!

          (Just out of curiosity, if you told them now for August 2021 would that impact the way they react to you during the coming year? I’ve heard rumours that in some environments the boss can get a little miffed when a good worker decides to go early.)

          • 37 Don
            July 7, 2020 at 6:33 pm

            Well since I have more time in than anyone in the department I’m pretty much left alone. But no, the type of environment that I work in retirement is looked at as something that is earned. And if you retire your boss will know that you’ve earned it. They don’t play petty games like that, life and death depends on treating everyone with respect from the most tenured to the guy that just started yesterday. In my time, I’ve seen both men and women come to work at 8 in the morning and for whatever reason quit at lunch. But the people that do that usually have the years in to retire. And the funny thing is that person will be missed on a personal level but the job keeps going on like nothing happened, the mission can’t and won’t be disturbed under any circumstances.

            • 38 mtmarilyn
              July 7, 2020 at 8:54 pm

              Congratulations Don! I am so happy in retirement. I have been able to do many different kind of jobs. I have been the filler inner. I can walk in and do almost anyone’s job for a short period of time. I can say no if I’m called. I love it. Now I have quit almost all of them and we have an Airbnb in our home. I love being home, which I never have, and talking to people from all over.

              Find what you love to do and do it. Good luck in your transition!

              • 39 Don
                July 7, 2020 at 9:15 pm

                You sound just like my friend, Mary, she worked for about two weeks and gave the keys back to the manager of a company where she just started. So now she’s on permanent chill mode, I doubt she’ll ever work again, not unless she wants to.

    • July 7, 2020 at 6:07 pm

      BRAVO. You will not regret this for a moment. You are still very young so the world is your oyster. Cheers to your newfound freedom 2021.

    • 41 marleysperson
      July 7, 2020 at 6:38 pm

      Wow. Congratulations on making this decision…. to be free to do whatever your next journey may be. So happy for you:)

    • July 7, 2020 at 7:42 pm

      Calling the shots for yourself is great! You have a whole new chapter of your life to write after you retire in August of 2021.

  14. 43 pkayden
    July 7, 2020 at 6:01 pm

    • 44 Don
      July 7, 2020 at 6:36 pm

      There is nothing left for Trump to play but the Confederacy card. He came in talking gibberish and the office exposed him as a fool.

  15. 45 pkayden
    July 7, 2020 at 6:29 pm

  16. 46 jer44
    July 7, 2020 at 7:06 pm

    • 47 Don
      July 7, 2020 at 7:48 pm

      I’m thinking hard about what other alternatives could there be for in-person voting, I just can’t seem to come up with anything.

  17. 48 jer44
    July 7, 2020 at 7:17 pm

  18. 49 nena20409
    July 7, 2020 at 7:21 pm

    Good Evening, TODville Community.🙏💪💙💪🙏

  19. 50 jer44
    July 7, 2020 at 7:23 pm

  20. July 7, 2020 at 7:25 pm

    BooM!👀

  21. 52 nena20409
    July 7, 2020 at 7:29 pm

  22. 53 jer44
    July 7, 2020 at 7:29 pm

  23. 54 jer44
    July 7, 2020 at 7:35 pm

  24. 55 jer44
    July 7, 2020 at 7:37 pm

  25. 56 marleysperson
    July 7, 2020 at 7:50 pm

    • 57 Don
      July 7, 2020 at 8:37 pm

      At any other time this would be in the top three things for us as Americans to worry about. But unfortunately in the time of Trump this doesn’t even make the top five.

  26. 58 Dudette
    July 7, 2020 at 8:36 pm

    I tweeted the CEO of Disney cuz this is some fucking criminal shit.
    Happiest place on Earth my ass!

    • 59 Don
      July 7, 2020 at 8:43 pm

      What have these ghouls done to my beloved home state. Before we had our child my wife and I would drive up to Orlando at least twice a year and hang out at Disney World and the Islands of Adventure for the weekend. Now Disney World is nothing more than a death trap with overpriced concession food.

    • July 8, 2020 at 8:12 am

      Beyond criminal!!! IMO at a level of premeditated murder!!!

      Citizens should learn by this point that they can not depend on their state (and some local) leaders to do their jobs and put make public health a priority. Corporations are focused on their bottom line and care nothing about the well-being of its customers, much less its hourly and low-level management employees. [Will we see upper management spending the day at the park with their families upon public opening?!?!?!?!] We have to take it upon ourselves to USE COMMON SENSE and listen to the scientists and health professionals and follow *their* guidance. In the case of Disney World re-opening, STAY HOME!!!

  27. 61 pkayden
    July 7, 2020 at 8:38 pm

    • July 8, 2020 at 9:59 am

      His supporters don’t understand — or they don’t care — that tRump is immune from *his* actions (at least for now). By design, he is able to make *suggestions* or infer that a certain behavior is okay such that he is not held accountable and others inevitably take the fall. That’s how he’s always operated in his business and personal dealings. Ask his attorneys/accountants/business associates/vendors/employees.

      So while these supporters feel free to act based on “suggestions” from “El Leader”, they are the ones who are paying the price while tRump reaps desired benefits.

  28. 63 Don
    July 7, 2020 at 8:44 pm

    But they aint president. They pay a price – jobs, spouses, etc……..and asswhoppings

  29. 64 marleysperson
    July 7, 2020 at 9:48 pm

    As they should. This was horrific.

  30. 65 nena20409
    July 7, 2020 at 10:07 pm

    • 66 Don
      July 7, 2020 at 10:35 pm

      Well now it becomes a moral imperative that we vote to remove the current occupant of the Whitehouse in November.

  31. 67 marleysperson
    July 7, 2020 at 10:59 pm

    THey’re paralyzed?? Really?

  32. 68 marleysperson
    July 7, 2020 at 11:35 pm

    So good.

  33. 70 jacquelineoboomer
    July 7, 2020 at 11:43 pm

  34. 71 jacquelineoboomer
    July 7, 2020 at 11:46 pm

  35. 72 marleysperson
    July 7, 2020 at 11:54 pm

    Excellent

  36. 75 marleysperson
    July 7, 2020 at 11:59 pm

    We need all of these dangerous people gone.

  37. 76 jacquelineoboomer
    July 8, 2020 at 12:36 am

    Our friend Kat knows how to warm up the night! Yay! Goodnight, TODville – and thanks again, Nerdy darlin’ !!

  38. 77 jacquelineoboomer
    July 8, 2020 at 12:42 am

  39. 78 Dudette
    July 8, 2020 at 8:43 am

    Boneless chicken 🤣

  40. July 8, 2020 at 9:15 am

  41. July 8, 2020 at 10:33 am

    SCOTUS watch

  42. 81 marleysperson
    July 8, 2020 at 10:35 am

    Morning everyone

  43. 82 jer44
    July 8, 2020 at 10:37 am

    Stacking the courts matter…

    • 83 marleysperson
      July 8, 2020 at 10:40 am

      JFC

      • 84 marleysperson
        July 8, 2020 at 10:50 am

        2020 and we’re STILL having this damn conversation. Men are STILL injecting themselves into women’s healthcare. FFS. VOTE!!

  44. 85 jer44
    July 8, 2020 at 10:39 am

    🎵🎵🎵

  45. 86 marleysperson
    July 8, 2020 at 10:44 am

    Thread

  46. 87 jer44
    July 8, 2020 at 10:56 am

  47. July 8, 2020 at 11:00 am

  48. 89 jer44
    July 8, 2020 at 11:02 am

    COMING UP…

  49. 90 marleysperson
    July 8, 2020 at 11:05 am

    This is so sad. So so sad.

  50. July 8, 2020 at 11:08 am

  51. July 8, 2020 at 11:21 am

    Mary Trump, author, “Too Much and Never Enough”:
    “On October 2nd 2018, the New York Times published an almost 14,000 word article, the longest in its history, revealing the long litany of potentially fraudulent and criminal activities that my grandfather, my aunts, and my uncles including the President, had engaged in. Through the extraordinary reporting of the Times team, I learned more about my families finances than I had ever known.”
    She is referring to this article by Susanne Craig, David Barstow, Russ Buettner:
    “Trump engaged in suspect tax schemes as he reaped riches from his father.”
    (https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2018/10/02/us/politics/donald-trump-tax-schemes-fred-trump.html)

    • July 8, 2020 at 11:23 am

      Rachel Maddow:
      “Again, Mary Trump only believes she is able to publish this book and able to speak about it because she thinks the confidentiality agreement that she signed in settling that law suit with her family 20 years ago, is null and void because that settlement was a fraud, because the family was materially misrepresenting the size of the estate in order to cheat her and her brother out of millions of dollars. It should also be noted that the president’s finances including his tax returns, are the subject of a Supreme Court case on which we could get a ruling as soon as tomorrow, as to whether or not congressional investigators and New York State prosecutors can access that material and review it for ongoing investigations of the President.”

    • July 8, 2020 at 11:24 am

      Maddow:
      “The investigation that the New York Times published in late 2018 into Donald Trump’s finances
      and his family’s finances would go on to win a Pulitzer Prize with an exclamation point. That report revealed the extent to which the President’s money really had come from the fortune his father left him, and not through his own work in business. An inherited fortune that the Times reported, was inflated through “dubious tax schemes” and “instances of outright fraud” that President Trump carried out, along with his siblings. That report led among other things, to the President’s older sister Maryanne, stepping down from a lifetime seat as a federal judge so as to avoid an ethics enquiry into her finances. But now, in a blockbuster new book, Mary Trump the President’s niece, says that she was a source for the Times in that report. I should also mention that Mary Trump incidentally also quotes a lot of really nasty things that the President’s retired judge older sister has to say about him, since the time he started running for president and since he has been in the Oval Office. But now we are awaiting a ruling any day now, from United States Supreme Court on whether the President’s financial records and taxes have to be turned over to state investigators in New York and congressional investigators. And while we await that, and while we start to appreciate how financial entanglements and fights like that can lead to all sorts of interesting family lore.
      That New York Times opus remains the best key that we have to understanding how our president got his money, and whether his supposed business fortune really may have been the product of a long running criminal scheme, along with members of his family.”

    • July 8, 2020 at 11:28 am

      Maddow to Susanne Craig,
      Investigative reporter for the New York Times and aforementioned Pulitzer Prize winner:
      “So I would never ask you about your sources and I’m not going to tonight, but Mary Trump in this book is volunteering that she was a source of yours and provided you and your colleagues with documents for your reports. I do just have to ask as she recounts this part of her family saga, and what she learned and what she understands about her family and money and her own stance in all this, does it comport with your own reporting and what you and your colleagues found at the time?”
      Craig:
      “I mean it’s interesting because we spent 18 months going through it, and we learned a lot about sort of how the Trumps think about finances, and one of the things that Mary Trump brings up in her book is appraisals. And I think we learned pretty quickly when we started to go through both the confidential documents that we had obtained and public documents, you start to see how they treat appraisals. And when they have something that’s charitable, the appraisal goes really high so they can get the tax deduction. And when they have something they want to lower their tax bill on, the appraisal goes lower. So there’s definitely a lot of things that happened that we saw that went to appraisals. And we looked at a number of things that they did over years that had to do with largely with lower appraisals, so that they could avoid taxes.”

    • July 8, 2020 at 11:29 am

      Maddow:
      “Part of the fight over the publication of this book which officially comes out next week,
      is whether or not Mary Trump is bound by a confidentiality agreement she signed as part of a court settlement, over the settlement of the President’s father’s gigantic estate. She is fighting that by saying, listen the settlement of that estate was itself fraudulent, because assets within her grandfather’s estate were systematically undervalued so as to cheat her and her brother of their fair share. That seems to be in-keeping with the kinds of patterns in terms of the way the estate and the assets of the Trump organization in general, were treated by the President and his siblings.”

    • July 8, 2020 at 11:31 am

      Craig:
      “When I think about this I break it up into two pieces. One is, I think Fred Trump died and a lot of things went into his will and ended up in probate. And it sort of looked like he was worth 30 million dollars. So when Trump and her brother saw that, they probably thought well that’s his estate. In fact, in the years in ’96 and ’97, Donald Trump and his siblings pretty much took out most of everything that Fred Trump, their father, owned. And they put it into trust. So when Fred and Mary see what’s actually gone into probate court after their grandfather dies, it’s basically the carcass of really what he owned, which was hundreds of millions of dollars. So the value of what ended up there was maybe thirty million. And they had a separate suit there, where they were saying that their aunts and uncles took advantage of Fred Trump and basically got them disinherited, they had poisoned his mind, is one point. So the impression that they were left with, and then their fight, were they disinherited or not, and what role did their aunts and uncles play. But then also you have when they go to settle, their aunts and uncles, they came to an agreement, and Fred and Mary signed over – actually what they inherited in 1981. And part of what Mary Trump talks about in the book is the threats that were made during that process to get them to sign it over. And there were appraisals involved all throughout. And I think this is going to continue to play out in the courts going forward. It’s already in front of the court right now, as she struggles to get out of the so-called NDA that she’s in where she can’t talk.”

    • July 8, 2020 at 11:32 am

      Maddow:
      “Susanne after the opus that you published in the Times for which you won the Pulitzer,
      you subsequently reported that New York regulators, New York investigators, were looking into the tax schemes that you and your colleagues reported at the Times. We obviously are now waiting Supreme Court ruling as to whether or not New York investigators can subpoena the President’s financial records. That’s there along with a similar question about whether or not congressional investigators can look at the President’s tax returns. Is there anything that you can tell us tonight in terms of your understanding, your reporting, about those investigations, and whether or not the President and his family are potentially in trouble for any of the stuff that you guys were able to report out.”
      Craig:
      “ I mean we haven’t seen a lot of tractions on the city and state investigations that started out. There still may be something that may come of it, but we haven’t. And I think what we’re going to see potentially tomorrow, it’s going to be one morning in the next few weeks, is whether or not the tax returns will be turned over either to prosecutors in New York and also to congressional investigators. So there’s two things going on there. Now I don’t know how that’s going to land, but it’s separate from the work that we did, which is other investigations that could be going on.”

  52. 99 jer44
    July 8, 2020 at 11:23 am

    And will these judges rule in his favor?

  53. 104 jer44
    July 8, 2020 at 11:26 am

    • July 8, 2020 at 11:39 am

      I am SO disgusted!

  54. July 8, 2020 at 11:41 am

    Trump = Cheating As A Way Of Life.
    “Mary Trump’s Book Accuses the President of Embracing ‘Cheating as a Way of Life’
    The president’s niece, Mary L. Trump, is the first to break ranks with the family and release a tell-all memoir.”

  55. 107 marleysperson
    July 8, 2020 at 11:44 am

    Covers it. For now.

  56. 108 jer44
    July 8, 2020 at 11:49 am

  57. 111 marleysperson
    July 8, 2020 at 11:54 am

    Freedumb

  58. July 8, 2020 at 12:16 pm

  59. 113 jer44
    July 8, 2020 at 12:21 pm

  60. 114 marleysperson
    July 8, 2020 at 12:23 pm

  61. 115 marleysperson
    July 8, 2020 at 12:23 pm


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