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“Racism Is Not A Product Of Ignorance”

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141 Responses to ““Racism Is Not A Product Of Ignorance””


  1. 1 Nerdy Wonka
    May 28, 2020 at 9:36 am

  2. May 28, 2020 at 9:48 am

    Yup.

    Thank you, Nerdy, for the new thread and for featuring G Willow Wilson’s.

    Racism is intentional irrespective of a person’s “GPA,” or any other measure of acquired knowledge.

  3. 5 Nerdy Wonka
    May 28, 2020 at 9:48 am

  4. 6 Nerdy Wonka
    May 28, 2020 at 9:51 am

  5. 9 Nerdy Wonka
    May 28, 2020 at 9:57 am

    • 10 Dudette
      May 28, 2020 at 11:21 am

  6. 11 Nerdy Wonka
    May 28, 2020 at 9:59 am

  7. 12 Nerdy Wonka
    May 28, 2020 at 10:06 am

  8. 13 Nerdy Wonka
    May 28, 2020 at 10:08 am

  9. 15 Nerdy Wonka
    May 28, 2020 at 10:12 am

  10. 16 jer44
    May 28, 2020 at 10:17 am

    … Formerly reliable progressive benches have issued rulings that threaten access to reproductive healthcare, while others have greenlighted the Trump administration’s most reckless attacks on voting rights and on vulnerable populations, from the disabled to victims of police abuse to asylum seekers.

    The supreme court, meanwhile, has consistently sided with Trump administration requests for emergency relief from lower court rulings against executive actions by Trump to create a wealth test for green card applicants, divert Pentagon funding for a border wall, ban transgender individuals from the military and more. …

    … “We have a president who is rather vindictive. That’s really the big issue now – whether the constitution of the United States, the bill of rights, will survive Trump.” … https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/apr/28/explainer-why-has-trump-appointed-so-many-judges

  11. 17 marleysperson
    May 28, 2020 at 10:20 am

    He can fuck off now

  12. May 28, 2020 at 10:20 am

    I am without words today.

  13. 20 Nerdy Wonka
    May 28, 2020 at 10:32 am

  14. May 28, 2020 at 10:33 am

  15. 24 Nerdy Wonka
    May 28, 2020 at 10:36 am

    • May 28, 2020 at 10:40 am

      UGH, I just feel sick today. Sick of all the racism and violence and bigotry and insanity and gaslighting and sociopathic white supremacy and every last constant violation against our civil rights, our humanity, our right to live in peace. We cannot go on like this.

      • 26 Nerdy Wonka
        May 28, 2020 at 10:51 am

        It’s a powder keg and people just keep on being hit and hit and hit and hit.

        It takes a toll and soon enough, people are going to be done and burn everything down. white supremacy can’t keep visiting violence and horror upon people over and over again and expect them to just take it and move on.

        It’s been centuries of this and people are sick of it.

        • May 28, 2020 at 10:57 am

          ABSOLUTELY. We are definitely in the midst of a powerful powder keg. This is all completely intolerable.

          • 28 mtmarilyn
            May 28, 2020 at 11:43 am

            Ive been on the edge of depression and this is just about to push me over the edge. I am seeing a counselor but I am so scared for our country. All you wonderful people of the TOD family help me know what we should be. Love you all and am so grateful for all of you.

            • 29 Nerdy Wonka
              May 28, 2020 at 11:48 am

              Take care of yourself, mtmarilyn. Your loved ones need you.

              Your mental health is very important and I’m glad you have someone looking out for you.

            • May 28, 2020 at 1:26 pm

              Stay strong, mtmarilyn. We are all struggling through this nightmare and I’m so glad you have someone to talk to, getting the help you need. Please remember we are stronger together. And as Kamala would say, YOU ARE NOT ALONE, you will not have to fight alone. Lots of love to you.

              • 31 mtmarilyn
                May 28, 2020 at 2:03 pm

                Thank you so much for your love and support. As an old white women I feel so heart broken for all those who are suffering. My personal problems are so minor compared to all those who are suffering lose and hardship now. I know there are more who care than don’t but those who don’t are in charge now and doing all they can to stay there. I will tell you I am very scared. But I also have great faith that good will overcome evil. Thank you all for keeping this place going. It is such a source of hope in this world of evil right now.

    • 32 pkayden
      May 28, 2020 at 1:02 pm

      We really need to hear from that store. What store was it? We should boycott it since they initiated the process that led to a lynching.

  16. 33 Nerdy Wonka
    May 28, 2020 at 10:47 am

  17. 36 Dudette
    May 28, 2020 at 10:47 am

    Hi Everyone!
    Just a heads up: Don’t assume any old fabric face mask is doing any good. Filtering is important.

  18. 43 Nerdy Wonka
    May 28, 2020 at 11:08 am

  19. 44 Dudette
    May 28, 2020 at 11:16 am

  20. 45 jer44
    May 28, 2020 at 11:19 am

  21. 46 Dudette
    May 28, 2020 at 11:22 am

  22. 48 Dudette
    May 28, 2020 at 11:23 am

  23. 49 Dudette
    May 28, 2020 at 11:24 am

  24. 50 Dudette
    May 28, 2020 at 11:29 am

  25. May 28, 2020 at 11:38 am

    You knew it:
    “George Floyd died because a grocery store clerk thought he wrote a bad check. That just doesn’t register in my head. And the check wasn’t bad to begin with…………..and he died for it.” (royal vega)
    —police should come under civilian control, peace keeping not public executions.

    • 52 mae52
      May 28, 2020 at 1:29 pm

      Why hasnt the police officers been arrested it was plain for all to see that what he did caused the death; arrest his arse and sort out the details later

  26. 53 Nerdy Wonka
    May 28, 2020 at 11:42 am

  27. 54 Dudette
    May 28, 2020 at 11:45 am

  28. 55 marleysperson
    May 28, 2020 at 11:56 am

  29. 59 nena20409
    May 28, 2020 at 11:59 am

    My heart aches.
    George Floyd.
    I have not stopped crying.
    It is truly a modern-day State lynching…what happened to this Gentle soul.

  30. 60 marleysperson
    May 28, 2020 at 12:00 pm

    His pain is real and true . I can not watch this and not ache and cry

  31. May 28, 2020 at 12:02 pm

    To all the brave and tough gunslingers in law enforcement:
    Get in there and arrest Trump for all the bad checks he wrote! Try not to put a boot on his neck while you are at it.

  32. 62 jer44
    May 28, 2020 at 12:49 pm

  33. 63 pkayden
    May 28, 2020 at 12:54 pm

  34. 64 Nerdy Wonka
    May 28, 2020 at 12:55 pm

  35. 65 jer44
    May 28, 2020 at 12:55 pm

  36. 66 Nerdy Wonka
    May 28, 2020 at 12:57 pm

  37. 67 Dudette
    May 28, 2020 at 12:59 pm

    Read this thread

  38. 68 pkayden
    May 28, 2020 at 1:22 pm

  39. May 28, 2020 at 1:22 pm

    JOY REID:
    “Really everyone I know is just consumed with all of these deaths…
    Europeans came to this country to get away from being subjects of the king in Europe.
    But what they did was they created for themselves sort of a kingdom, every man a king.
    But the subjects are black people.
    Black and brown people, and indigenous people, the rest of us are subjects.
    Amy Cooper versus Christian Cooper:
    Amy Cooper, citizen. Christian Cooper, subject.
    So she feels she has this inherent power to…she has to decide what he can do. He can’t have his own decisions, she makes those decisions. She can use the police to ENFORCE her rule over him.
    And in the subject of Mr. Floyd, he was not treated as a citizen.
    You wonder if you know, there’d been a white person, and there’d been a 911 call that they’d passed a 20 dollar bill, would that person be dead? Likely not!! Right? If the police had showed up on Mr. Cooper, he’d would probably be in great risk, we’ll just put it that way.” (to Hayes)

    • May 28, 2020 at 1:24 pm

      JOY REID:
      “And we’ve just seen this over and over and over again.
      Whether it’s Trayvon Martin, or Ahmaud Arbery, where regular people say you know, I can have police,
      I can pursue you, I can chase you even if you are a kid. And then I can say you’re the one who is dangerous. And I can say I have a right to kill you and just do it. And just do whatever I want to you.
      You know the Breonna Taylor situation, where you can be in your bed, you are a subject not a citizen.
      And that is how black people feel right now.
      Because we are being treated as subjects and not as citizens.
      And it’s the same thing with these armed white men who can get armed up and walk into a state capital. And that’s OK! And the police are benign…they don’t even act afraid. But let black people show up and protest the death of an innocent black man, and suddenly you know what we need tear gas, you’ve got to go full force.”

    • May 28, 2020 at 1:27 pm

      CHRIS HAYES:
      “The subject-citizen model is so perfectly apt…those images we have seen of police…where the relationship (to protestors) there is like constituent, or citizen, or “ok well I’m here to make sure nothing goes down, and make sure your constitutional right to bear arms and protest are protected, that’s my sort of sovereign duty here”. And that’s just not the way, I mean in Baltimore and in Ferguson…every other protest that I’ve ever covered against police violence, it does not go down like that.”

    • May 28, 2020 at 1:31 pm

      JOY REID:
      “I mean, Charlottesville. It was the same thing.
      The police were there to protect the people who were marching as neo-nazis, not to protect the black people who were being victimized by those neo-nazis. This plays out over and over and over again, that black people’s right to protest is secondary to white people’s right to be in armed protests with long guns, terrifying looking war weapons…that’s fine, the police are there to protect their civil rights.
      But for black people it is simply subjugation.
      It is simply “we are there to control you, we’re there to minimize your movement, to minimize your opportunity to protest. Because you simply are a subject in this country”.
      That is something in this country that has never been fixed.
      Four hundred and some odd years later and we have not fixed it.
      And I have to say even ordinary white citizens who consider themselves good people, don’t consider themselves racist people, there is still way too often that same attitude that “if I see you in my building, I have the right to say why are you here? Do you belong here? Do you want to show me some identification? You have t, or I am going to use my power, I’m going to call 911 and enforce my power over you”.
      And that is just ordinary people in Central Park. That is what is so scary about this country.”

    • 74 marleysperson
      May 28, 2020 at 2:41 pm

      This conversation was riveting and the exact one we need to be having as a country and individually…

  40. 75 Nerdy Wonka
    May 28, 2020 at 1:25 pm

    • May 28, 2020 at 1:45 pm

      Investigate and expose this man.
      He is the criminal and threat to society here. Expose this man and whoever keeps hiring him and re-hiring him. Look into his colleagues. And all the officers now on pay roll who are repeat offenders,
      who keep getting away with murder, vicious attacks on innocent citizens.
      We want an inventory. We want change. We want accountability and apologies.

    • 78 marleysperson
      May 28, 2020 at 2:47 pm

      No one NEEDS FB more than our democracy. Reason Number Bizzillion to get rid of it for good

  41. 79 Dudette
    May 28, 2020 at 1:51 pm

  42. 80 Dudette
    May 28, 2020 at 1:58 pm

  43. 86 Don
    May 28, 2020 at 2:15 pm

    I posted this in August of 2014 after Michael Brown was killed by a white police office in Ferguson, Missouri.

    Almost six years to the day, Damn.

    I remember one time I took my wife to a medical appointment at an office building, usually I drop her off at the entrance and I wait in my car in the parking lot usually listening to music or talk radio. Anyway this one time I decided to go in the lobby to use the rest room. As I exited my car this white lady was walking towards me, the look of fear she had or her face was palpable, she clutched her purse so tight her hands turned red. As usual I smiled at her to ease her fears, see I’ve discovered that when I run into white people on a one on one situation I smile just so they will feel comfortable.

    I’m tired of smiling; I’m tired of having to worry about some stranger feeling comfortable or uncomfortable in my presence. Why is it that when I’m the only black person in an elevator with a bunch of white people, nobody smiles to make me feel comfortable?

    Why is it that when I’m anywhere and I’m the only black person there, nobody smiles at me to make me feel comfortable?

    The average black man will tell you, if he’s lived long enough, that he’s discovered certain mechanisms he uses to make people feel comfortable in his presence. So now another black kid is dead under unclear circumstances, another black community is in pain, and another policeman is on paid administrative leave.

    By this time tomorrow we’ll know everything this young black kid has done since he left his mother’s womb, the good and the bad, the right and the wrong. I’ve got an eight year old son; I used to wonder about what college he will attend or what does he want to do when he grows up. As black men we’ve learned to focus our thinking on the present more so than on the future when it comes to our black boys.

    • 87 Don
      May 28, 2020 at 2:24 pm

      Six years of writing about pain and despair and anguish, sprinkled in with a little hope, not an uplifting hope. But a hope that says things might get better, maybe, hopefully.

  44. May 28, 2020 at 2:30 pm

    “He knows that in states like Michigan, Pennsylvania, Florida, Minnesota and Wisconsin, people are ready to elect a new president. People are ready for a real leader. People are ready for someone who isn’t triggered and isn’t just interested in checking their poll numbers, but is really interested in governing and interested in protecting the American people. We have over 100,000 people dead because of this pandemic.
    And the president rarely mentions the people who’ve lost their lives to COVID-19.”
    Conversation w/Congresswoman Ilhan Omar:
    (https://www.salon.com/2020/05/28/rep-ilhan-omar-talks-trump-people-are-ready-for-someone-who-isnt-triggered/)

  45. 93 Hillary Darton
    May 28, 2020 at 2:56 pm

    Looting and stealing is so wrong, but so is murder.

  46. 94 Nerdy Wonka
    May 28, 2020 at 3:13 pm

    Thank you, Denzel.

  47. 96 jer44
    May 28, 2020 at 3:15 pm

  48. 97 Hillary Darton
    May 28, 2020 at 3:18 pm

    Since the police killing of George Floyd in Minnesota I’ve been listening to Michael Jackson song, “They Don’t Really Care About Us”.

  49. 98 jer44
    May 28, 2020 at 3:26 pm

    • May 28, 2020 at 3:42 pm

      How hard is this to refute? He has exercised his free speech how many people-killing times?
      To the both sidey media…for once this works both ways. Yes we can fact check him.

  50. 100 jer44
    May 28, 2020 at 3:32 pm

  51. 101 jer44
    May 28, 2020 at 3:37 pm

  52. 102 jer44
    May 28, 2020 at 3:39 pm

  53. 103 nena20409
    May 28, 2020 at 3:50 pm

    Wow, If true!
    MT, Dem Leading
    AZ, Dem Leading
    CO, Dem Leading
    NC, MOE
    IA, I haven’t seen a poll on this…but In my Mind…Dem Leading
    ME, Dem Leading
    GA…🤔One win or shall I go for the GREED, TWO🤫
    Wow!

  54. 106 nena20409
    May 28, 2020 at 4:02 pm

  55. 107 nena20409
    May 28, 2020 at 4:09 pm

  56. 109 marleysperson
    May 28, 2020 at 5:13 pm

    That took no time:)

  57. May 28, 2020 at 5:30 pm

    Just noticed…could be a prescient euology to a trumper…
    The incomparable Leonard Cohen’s last album released October 21, 2016.
    He died 14 days later, at 82 years.

    “It seemed the better way.”

  58. 118 marleysperson
    May 28, 2020 at 5:46 pm

  59. 119 jer44
    May 28, 2020 at 5:50 pm

  60. 121 Dudette
    May 28, 2020 at 6:03 pm

    Republicans are straight up evil!

  61. 122 Dudette
    May 28, 2020 at 6:05 pm

  62. May 28, 2020 at 6:14 pm

    FBI holding a press briefing on Mr Floyd’s death

  63. 126 Dudette
    May 28, 2020 at 6:35 pm

  64. 127 Dudette
    May 28, 2020 at 6:41 pm

    Fascism in action

  65. May 28, 2020 at 6:46 pm

    Get in line, Liz.

  66. 129 Dudette
    May 28, 2020 at 7:20 pm

  67. 130 Betsy
    May 28, 2020 at 7:30 pm

    Just an FYI to the posted tweets:

  68. 131 Dudette
    May 28, 2020 at 7:32 pm

    Just so you know

  69. 132 Dudette
    May 28, 2020 at 7:34 pm

  70. May 28, 2020 at 7:37 pm

  71. 134 Dudette
    May 28, 2020 at 7:39 pm

    • 135 Don
      May 28, 2020 at 7:44 pm

      This is the type of V.P. that we need, no equivalation, no double talk.

      • 136 Dudette
        May 28, 2020 at 7:45 pm

        🙌🏾

      • May 28, 2020 at 8:21 pm

        Don thank you for writing over time about your son.
        Wish I could surround your family and all the other families who live in fear in a bubbles of protection.
        Did you see “The American Son” with Kerry Washington. Hard to watch and hard truths for white folks.
        (with love to your 14 year old who is the same height as mine – also a lanky string o’ beans.)

  72. 138 Dudette
    May 28, 2020 at 7:41 pm

  73. 139 Dudette
    May 28, 2020 at 7:42 pm

  74. 140 Dudette
    May 28, 2020 at 7:45 pm


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