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Pushing For Progress


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  1. 1 Don
    June 28, 2019 at 2:39 pm

    Its amazing that President Obama still has time to recognize significant events in our nation’s history.

  2. June 28, 2019 at 2:39 pm

    Thank you NW for all you do!!!

  3. June 28, 2019 at 3:19 pm

    Joe Biden today:
    ““I want to be absolutely clear about my record and position on racial justice, including busing. I never, never, never ever opposed voluntary busing. And that’s a program that Senator Harris participated in, and it made a difference in her life,” he said Friday.
    “I did support federal action to support root causes of segregation in our schools and our communities, including taking on the banks and redlining and trying to change the way in which neighborhoods were segregated,” he added. “In fact, I cast the deciding vote in 1974 against an amendment called the Gurney Amendment, which would have banned the right of the federal courts to use busing as a remedy.””
    (https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/450926-biden-defends-civil-rights-record-after-debate-showdown-with-harris)
    + imho he didn’t want to have a big fight with Kamala.
    + imo VP Biden will always protect and encourage democrats fighting for the future of this nation and our planet.

    • 6 Don
      June 28, 2019 at 3:36 pm

      From a strategic standpoint and I’m talking about strategy only, Joe can’t bring in President Obama to help him with his record when it comes to issues of race. If he did it would seem as though he needs President Obama to help him with this issue. Joe has to fight this battle on his own.

      • 7 Betsy
        June 28, 2019 at 4:04 pm

        But it wouldn’t surprise me if he called PBO about it and got advice. It’s great that he clarified his positions but not so great that in the moment he fell back to the states’ rights defence, one that so many people used to excuse racist policies. Segregation & busing were policies that triggered a lot of sensitivities among both black and white communities which I suspect have not healed as they continue to be an issue today.

      • June 28, 2019 at 4:34 pm

        This is my opinion, which I can see will be unpopular here but I feel the need to say it nonetheless.

        For me, the larger point Kamala Harris was trying to make is that racism is institutionalized. It’s not really about this bus ride or that kid who couldn’t play. It’s about how racism is codified in our laws and in our attitudes. She was hurt when she thought he wasn’t somehow recognizing the long-term affect of pretending otherwise. It’s about the sting of racism that stays with you your whole life. I think Joe could have avoided all this if, instead of sticking to the image of himself as the long residing Senator who could deal with segregationists and come out smelling like a rose, if he could have just said, I didn’t intend to inflict pain. That’s her truth and that’s his. He could have just listened and acknowledged and reasoned with her and together they both could have benefitted with that. I think part of the point that Kamala was making is that we need to be able to talk about race truthfully and I think that point is being lost.

        When Biden first brought up the issue of being able to work with segregationists, it struck me as naive and beside the point. PBO had a hard time getting through McConnell and today it’s absolutely impossible. But for Biden to claim that he can do it was such an outdated and I thought insulting thing to say, as if he’s some kind of great white hope who can get the job done because he knows how to hang out and talk to them and befriend them. It just rubbed me the wrong way.

        I believe Joe is a good man and I believe he was a very good Vice President. He was loyal to PBO and did a very good job with great focus. And, as Kamala prefaced, I do not think he’s racist in the way that most people think of. But I do not confuse who he is with who President Obama is. Yes, they’re friends. But for me, Joe is not Barack Obama in any way, shape or form. So when he faces criticism, I do not see anyone impugning the character and judgment of President Obama. He’s going to have to fight these battles on his own with a much smarter approach, IMO.

        • 9 vcprezofan2
          June 28, 2019 at 5:17 pm

          x 100%. Thank you, Meta. I’ve been stepping around this discussion today because I don’t really have the energy/desire for it. I had to pause this time just to say I agree with the points you’ve shared,

        • 11 Dudette
          June 28, 2019 at 5:17 pm

          Well said.

        • 13 tnmtngirl1
          June 28, 2019 at 5:27 pm

          Thanks for sharing your thoughts on this whole episode. I fully defer to you and trust your instincts. As all of us have said, vote blue no matter who. I do not have ‘a’ favorite at this point. Have a short list that I like, but am taking my time and listening and learning.

        • June 28, 2019 at 5:41 pm

          Could not agree with you more, meta.

          Senator Harris presented VP Biden with a reality that almost every white person I’ve ever known simply refuse to dedicate the personal introspection and honesty to reconcile the reality that:

          1 unpaid labor (aka black and brown slaves) are those who created the vast agrarian-based wealth of America, and to this day are the reason Americans have something to eat, and,

          2 our white, male ‘forefathers’ engineered a massive real estate acquisition strategy that resulted in one of the most successful episodes of genocide, ever, and,

          3 Our Declaration of Independence & Constitution were solely written by men, almost all of whom were slave owners and all of whom denied even white women the vote let alone any other approximation of equality & liberty their words proclaimed as ‘unalienable’.

        • 17 donna dem 4 obama
          June 28, 2019 at 6:11 pm

          Thank you Meta. You stated that very succinctly. I’ve hesitated to express this very same opinion out loud because I respect VP Joe and his long standing career in public service and also because I don’t want him to get beat and battered in the primary so badly that it causes him damage in the general should he be the nominee. With that said, he has surrounded himself with a diverse staff but because of his stature in the party and the frontrunner status he has had I think (and I could be wrong on this) they have been hesitant abount critiquing some of his outdated opinions to him. They are doing him a disservice. I will support him to the moon and back should he be the nominee but he has a record that he is going to have to explain and in some cases make amends for. I don’t get the impression that he gets that just yet.

        • June 28, 2019 at 6:20 pm

          Thank you, Meta. And for our brilliant & thoughtful TODers who replied to you. I hope VP Joe reflects seriously on last night & be able to not be defensive of his long record, but figure out a way to have a meaningful discourse. And then embrace his strengths full on. ❤

        • June 28, 2019 at 7:04 pm

          Thanks, everyone. I appreciate and respect and love you all.

        • June 28, 2019 at 9:10 pm

          Great analysis Meta!

        • 23 mtmarilyn
          June 28, 2019 at 10:17 pm

          Very well said.

        • 24 Betsy
          June 28, 2019 at 11:59 pm

          Thank you so much Meta. You have expressed exactly what I was trying to say but obviously not very well. I totally agree with you.

        • 25 Nerdy Wonka
          June 29, 2019 at 1:22 pm

          Well said, Meta.

      • 26 marleysperson
        June 28, 2019 at 5:29 pm

        All I know is, my Forever President would have NEVER chosen someone to be his VP if there was ever any issue in this regard. I trust VP Biden, and I certainly trust President Obama. Always will.

    • June 28, 2019 at 4:26 pm

      An African American woman in the WH on the #1 or #2 ticket would be pure sublime loving fkn justice. Kamala is a beautiful fighter who must pick her fights well and weigh the costs. For example, imo Joe was never going for a ‘win’ and a victory tour around the room at her expense.

    • 30 Don
      June 28, 2019 at 5:52 pm

      Look at Putin’s body language, he can’t look President Obama and he has his arm up in a protective demeanor.

  4. 31 marleysperson
    June 28, 2019 at 5:32 pm

    He is a good man

  5. 32 marleysperson
    June 28, 2019 at 5:44 pm

    FYI. Please share

  6. 33 marleysperson
    June 28, 2019 at 5:47 pm

    Fucking delusional idiot, living in his made up fantasy world.

  7. June 28, 2019 at 5:49 pm

  8. 39 Don
    June 28, 2019 at 6:07 pm

    If Joe is our nominee we are going to vote for him enthusiastically, but we are also going to kick Joe’s tires just like we kicked President Obama’s tires when he ran for President. Believe it or not, once upon a time Barack Hillary and Joe were at each other throats in their quest for the Presidency. But at the end of the day they came together for a greater cause, and it will happen again this time.

  9. 47 Don
    June 28, 2019 at 6:25 pm

    I can say this without any reservations, I love me some Joe Biden. I used to love the way he talked about growing up and the way his dad used to call him champ, that appealed to me. And I also loved to hear Barack talking about his struggles with race as a young man growing up. Black people do not vote in lockstep, each of us will vote our conscious, hell, within my own family some of us voted for Barack and some of us didn’t. What I’m saying is that when it comes to voting for Joe or Kamala it is a complex situation.

    • 48 jacquelineoboomer
      June 28, 2019 at 8:08 pm

      I respect that totally, Don. I love your good heart. And I respect Meta’s views here and everybody else’s views, including Kamala’s.

      My views spring from having lived in NJ most of my earlier life, where we saw Joe Biden as our “third senator.” I’ve admired him for decades. Being part Irish, I love his stories. I admire how he supported President Obama, 100 percent of the time, and he should be proud that he did.

      Truth be told, my reaction last night – which I see today inside myself even more, and I’m exhausted from it – was based on my internalized feelings that he’s a man in his 70s who had to carry on after losing his dear son. His “champ.” I, too, am in my 70s and lost my dear son last year, and I have to similarly carry on. Of course, I’m not running for president, I suppose you’ve noticed. 🙂 And I don’t have Kamala Harris telling me I hurt her and others.

      And, truth be told again, I wish Jill and his family could have kept him from this run. I don’t think he’s necessarily up for it, and it makes me sad thinking he’ll be hurt if he doesn’t make it … but, then again, he’s a champ himself and may be able to shrug it off and go back to trying to enjoy his life with his loving family. I’m lucky I have 5 grandkids and 2 great grandkids who are my rocks and my younger champs. One thing I know is that I wish the best for whichever Democratic candidate gets the nomination, and will be doing my part to assure they help us say “Adios” to trump, right before the paddy wagon pulls up to give him a little ride.

      Thank you, Nerdy, for allowing us all to come here to open up to each other, because we learn so much in doing so.

      • 49 Don
        June 28, 2019 at 8:19 pm

        I truly understand and feel every word you are saying, this is tough. Like you, I wish for selfish reasons Joe didn’t get into this race. I want to remember Joe as the one person that had Barack’s back through thick and thin. But then you have Kamala Harris and Elizabeth Warren ushering in a new fight without fear like Hillary did.

      • June 28, 2019 at 9:01 pm

        Understand and respect your POV and love you dearly, {{{{Booms}}}}

      • June 29, 2019 at 12:02 am

        Don, J’OB, I so love yr perspectives on yr lives & experiences. I’m respectfully not discounting VP Joe, I have respect & love for him & Jill. As hard as it is for me to say this, I just want him to better manage his situational awareness (meaning his public service & decisions thereof) & not take anything or any vote for granted. The good news is that he has a moment to get his offensive in gear. Meanwhile, he has to realize that there are formidable candidates in this smorgasbord of Dem candidates.

        On yr point, I posted a gentle comment some time ago that I wished he’d been able to run in 2016. I always felt that was his moment. Sadly his son passed & I know how hard it is to work thru that tragedy. BTW, I think Dr. Jill would make an excellent 1st Lady.

        Anyhoo, we Dems are blessed w/ candidates (minus the usual suspects😏) who, w/ their platforms, will move this country where it needs to be.

        So there’s wonderful hope.

        • 54 jacquelineoboomer
          June 29, 2019 at 12:09 am

          Beautifully said, Gazelle, and I agree with you!

          • 55 tnmtngirl1
            June 29, 2019 at 8:28 am

            Good morning all. Yes, Gazelle, well said. I, too, think 2016 was his time, but yet, not in the cards. I’ve told y’all many times that had he been our nominee, my R husband would have voted for him.

            Love my TOD family. Wishes for all to have a good day! 🥰💜💚💙❤️🥰

  10. 56 nena20409
    June 28, 2019 at 6:50 pm

  11. 57 nena20409
    June 28, 2019 at 6:52 pm

  12. June 28, 2019 at 7:03 pm

    OMG!

  13. 60 nena20409
    June 28, 2019 at 7:10 pm

  14. 61 nena20409
    June 28, 2019 at 7:17 pm

  15. June 28, 2019 at 8:35 pm

    And, these two are a hoot!! 😀 😀 😀

  16. 65 marleysperson
    June 28, 2019 at 8:41 pm

  17. 66 Hillary Darton
    June 28, 2019 at 9:42 pm

    Congratulation to the US Women Soccer team. See you at the White House.

  18. 67 marleysperson
    June 28, 2019 at 11:17 pm

  19. 68 marleysperson
    June 28, 2019 at 11:22 pm

    Interesting. Guess not everyone is qualified to
    participate in the fraud festivities. Shocker. Rich donors?

  20. 70 jacquelineoboomer
    June 28, 2019 at 11:53 pm

    She’s gone?

    *clink !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    • June 29, 2019 at 12:24 am

      Head high? Cantor away, headless horse arse. (Sorry horse, not on you.) My “milk of human kindness” for these arses has an expiration date of definitely now. 👀😏

  21. June 29, 2019 at 12:55 am

    Goodnight TOD …

    That’s an amazing tweet, to say the least …

  22. 73 Dudette
    June 29, 2019 at 7:13 am

  23. 74 Dudette
    June 29, 2019 at 7:14 am

    Please check your dog food and talk to your vet. 😳

  24. 75 Dudette
    June 29, 2019 at 7:17 am

    Wow!

  25. 76 Dudette
    June 29, 2019 at 7:25 am

    ❤️

  26. 77 Dudette
    June 29, 2019 at 7:27 am

  27. 78 Dudette
    June 29, 2019 at 7:29 am

  28. 79 Dudette
    June 29, 2019 at 7:34 am

    Dear God! 😱

    • 80 Hillary Darton
      June 29, 2019 at 9:40 am

      You want to know why they don’t give a dam (excuse my English) about those brown kids on the bother dying, because they don’t give a dam about the black Americans in America dying.

  29. 82 Dudette
    June 29, 2019 at 8:22 am

    Everything Trump-related is pure crap

  30. 84 jer44
    June 29, 2019 at 8:28 am

    • June 29, 2019 at 11:04 am

      -a border is an arbitrary line that means nothing in the greater natural reality. Dozens of animal species depend on being able to move across it, eg ocelots, peccaries, jaguars. They move back and forth depending on the seasons and are part of the ecosystem. This wall increases the likelihood that local populations will be driven to extinction.

  31. 86 jer44
    June 29, 2019 at 8:39 am

  32. June 29, 2019 at 10:00 am

    May he Rest in Peace.

  33. June 29, 2019 at 10:17 am

    RECLAIMING OUR TIME

  34. June 29, 2019 at 10:26 am

    FOOD BREAK.

  35. 93 marleysperson
    June 29, 2019 at 10:46 am

    Morning everyone. Please share

  36. 94 marleysperson
    June 29, 2019 at 10:57 am

    FFS

  37. 95 marleysperson
    June 29, 2019 at 11:04 am

    Honestly. The stupid hurts

    • 96 marleysperson
      June 29, 2019 at 11:09 am

      He knows nothing about anything significant. Worse, he could care less.

    • 97 Don
      June 29, 2019 at 12:17 pm

      I haven’t seen a word salad like this since the “Thrilla from Wasilla.”

  38. 99 marleysperson
    June 29, 2019 at 11:12 am

    It’s in the summary, for God’s sakes! He doesn’t believe it because it doesn’t suit this needs

  39. 100 marleysperson
    June 29, 2019 at 11:30 am

    Thread

    • 101 marleysperson
      June 29, 2019 at 11:35 am

      another share

    • June 29, 2019 at 11:53 am

      Thank you. He perfectly expresses the mess and the complexity we now face. 2020 campaigns must prepare for this.

  40. 103 jacquelineoboomer
    June 29, 2019 at 11:43 am

    THREAD (had to get this out of my system, so I can move on!):

    • 104 marleysperson
      June 29, 2019 at 1:04 pm

      Excellent, Booms. I heard Joe abides yesterday telling the group he was speaking to that people either didn’t know, didn’t care to know, or woefully underestimated the good that PBO did.

    • 107 ggail44
      June 29, 2019 at 3:18 pm

      Thank you J’OB, you had me nodding my head and saying “right on!”

      • 108 jacquelineoboomer
        June 29, 2019 at 4:15 pm

        Good, Gail – we all see everything political through our own prisms, of course, but I’m glad you got what I meant. Appreciate it.

  41. 109 marleysperson
    June 29, 2019 at 11:49 am

  42. June 29, 2019 at 1:36 pm

    Counterterrorism expert Malcolm Nance said on Saturday
    that Donald Trump’s behavior at the G20 Summit in Japan has made it blatantly clear that he is working to undermine and destroy liberal democracy.
    According to Nance, the United States under Trump no longer stands with the 16 ally nations at the G20
    that are promoting liberal democracy, as American presidents have done since World War II.
    Instead, this president is standing with Russia, Saudi Arabia and China.
    “Vladimir Putin personally attacked liberal democracy. He said liberal democracy is obsolete,” Nance said. “That is the American democracy that has existed for 244 years. Donald Trump agrees with him and is working to destroy that.”
    “These are the threats which we are facing today and Donald Trump is the leader of that threat,” he added.
    (https://www.politicususa.com/2019/06/29/malcolm-nance-issues-global-wake-up-call-trump-is-openly-helping-tyrants-end-liberal-democracy.html)
    –Tempus fugit–

  43. 113 marleysperson
    June 29, 2019 at 2:11 pm

    ***BEWARE!! It’s how they spread lies

  44. 114 marleysperson
    June 29, 2019 at 2:11 pm

    ***BEWARE!! It’s how they spread lies


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