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  1. 1 desertflower
    July 20, 2017 at 12:27 pm

  2. 3 Judith Fardig
    July 20, 2017 at 12:32 pm

    • July 20, 2017 at 12:41 pm

      We know KOCH-nra owns McConnell/GOP. Also betting KOCH has a good thing going with Putrid Oil.
      A few excerpts of the Libertarian Party platform that David Koch ran on in 1980:
      “We favor the abolition of Medicare and Medicaid programs.”
      “We oppose any compulsory insurance or tax-supported plan to provide health services, including those which finance abortion services.”
      “We also favor the deregulation of the medical insurance industry.”
      And on ensuring you are sick ““We support the abolition of the Environmental Protection Agency.”

  3. 5 Nerdy Wonka
    July 20, 2017 at 12:41 pm

  4. July 20, 2017 at 12:50 pm

    Good morning Ms. Chips, Danny and TOD family, I hope all is well with everyone this lovely Thursday morning. Congrats df, on being first this morning.

    Nerdy, thanks so much for helping Ms. Chips and for the sacrifices you’re making for us TOD’ers. 💫🙏👌👊❤

    To all, Do know; your natural response of caring will be considered Heroic, your spiritual response will be considered Angelic, and your Godly response will be considered Heavenly to someone today and forever. ❤ ❤ ❤

    I am thankful to God that I lived to witness one of the greatest President of The United States of America in President Barack Hussein Obama ⭐🏆 ⭐🏆 ⭐🏆

  5. 10 Nerdy Wonka
    July 20, 2017 at 12:55 pm

  6. July 20, 2017 at 1:00 pm

    When will people start calling the Senate Majority leader compromised, his wife works for this administration so he is unable to act in the interest of Americans, If a third world President does this America would label that government corrupt but in this case the media says nothing of Trump buying patronage by hiring wife’s of people who should be critical of this administration

  7. July 20, 2017 at 2:44 pm

    So there’s a new CBO score without the Cruz amendment. Did McConnell request that variation to be scored? Doesn’t matter. Still millions of people losing insurance.

  8. July 20, 2017 at 2:51 pm

    GOP Senators continue to show their callousness. How many lives will this bill have?!?!?!?

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  12. July 20, 2017 at 3:11 pm

    GOP…this is *really* okay with you?!?!?!? And didn’t 45 say it wasn’t going to happen????

    Moscow and Washington are in talks to create a joint cyber security working group, RIA news agency reported on Thursday, citing Russia’s special envoy on cyber security Andrey Krutskikh.

    Russia said last week that Donald Trump and Vladimir Putin had discussed forming a group on cyber security..

  13. 29 Nena20409
    July 20, 2017 at 3:13 pm

    Good Thursday Afternoon, TODbots!
    Congrats, DF on your Au ⭐ 🙂
    Thanks, NW 🍸
    {{{ ❤ Chips ❤ }}}

  14. July 20, 2017 at 3:17 pm

    Trump’s Incoherence On Display in New York Times Interview
    by Nancy LeTourneau
    July 20, 2017 11:26 AM

    Last night the New York Times published an article about the interview they conducted with Donald Trump. There were three big takeaways that are the subject of a lot of discussion today. Trump said:

    1. He wouldn’t have hired Jeff Sessions as Attorney General if he knew he was going to recuse himself from involvement in the Russia investigation.

    2. James Comey shared the Steele dossier with him as a form of blackmail.

    3. Mueller’s investigation would cross a red line if they looked into his family’s finances beyond any relationship to Russia.

    These are all important stories. But the Times also published a partial transcript of the interview. I found that even more disturbing because, once again, we hear a President of the United States being practically incoherent. As an example, I’ll provide a lengthy quote from when Peter Baker asked Trump about the email exchange between Don Jr. and Rob Goldstone. He specifically asked about the part where Goldstone said that the information to be shared was “part of Russia and its government’s support of Mr. Trump.” Here is how the president responded:

  15. July 20, 2017 at 3:32 pm

  16. 32 Nena20409
    July 20, 2017 at 3:33 pm

    I know that I am Not in the Majority in this. Pardon my little rant.
    OJ had a trial in 1995 for the 1994 Murders. He was acquitted. Right or Wrong, those were the Facts.
    Then 9 yrs ago, he was convicted of a Nonsense Crime…..sentenced for 33yrs. Today, he’s being paroled & the ignoble corrupt useless #CorpMedia that many of them got rich off OJ Simpson’s Fame were covering his parole hearings wall to wall? They ignored Real News that affect Us all. This is how Trump became their Sugar Daddy addictive drug of choice. Just pitifully, shameful!

    • July 20, 2017 at 3:48 pm

      I’m sure 45 is happy that the focus is on OJ…. at least for now.

    • 34 arapaho415
      July 20, 2017 at 8:19 pm

      GE Nena.

      Nonstop coverage on the local Los Angeles all-news radio station this afternoon — they’re not even breaking for network news, which they usually do at the top of each hour.

      Since I don’t have a TV and haven’t been near one all day, have no idea how it’s being covered on television.

  17. July 20, 2017 at 3:41 pm


    It’s Baaaaacccckkkk (Sort Of, Maybe)

    by Tom Levenson
    3:33 pm on July 20, 2017.

    It is impossible to overstate the Republican commitment to ripping health care from millions, while taking a chainsaw to our medical system.

    Rand Paul has just announced that he will vote “Yes” on the Trumpcare motion to proceed as long as he is given a clean vote on his amendment, which would simply repeal the ACA (which, given the CBO evaluation of a similar proposal, would lead to something on the order of 17 million without health care next year, and 32 million Americans left in the cold by 2026).

    That’s still not enough to get Trumpcare to the floor if the other declared “Noes” hold out, but each senator McConnell can peel away significantly increases the pressure on those who remain opposed. And certainly, Paul’s cave reminds us that counting on any Republican to maintain a party-base-unpopular position as a matter of principle is a mug’s game.

  18. 38 Nena20409
    July 20, 2017 at 3:42 pm

  19. 39 Nena20409
    July 20, 2017 at 3:45 pm

  20. 43 Nena20409
    July 20, 2017 at 3:46 pm

  21. 44 Nena20409
    July 20, 2017 at 3:47 pm

  22. 45 Nena20409
    July 20, 2017 at 4:19 pm

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  24. July 20, 2017 at 4:24 pm

    Important details at 1:40>>>

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  28. 60 desertflower
    July 20, 2017 at 4:42 pm

  29. 61 Nena20409
    July 20, 2017 at 4:42 pm

  30. July 20, 2017 at 4:44 pm

    • 63 arapaho415
      July 20, 2017 at 11:26 pm

      There is absolutely no way I could possibly keep track (understand) of this network of intrigue… 😦

  31. 64 JER
    July 20, 2017 at 5:10 pm

    • 65 arapaho415
      July 20, 2017 at 6:20 pm

      GA JER.

      Source of @NYDailyNews article is this week’s TIME magazine cover story:

      Link to PBO Administration plans are in the article linked to in this tweet.

      The article begins by discussing California primary in Riverside County in June, 2016, and goes on to say:

      “It was only months later that it dawned on investigators in D.C. that undermining voters’ faith may have been the point of the Riverside County hack all along. In the months following the California primaries, the feds discovered that Russian hackers had broken into more than 20 state and local election systems and attempted to alter voter registration in several of them. Looking back at the events in Riverside County, cybersecurity officials at the White House wondered whether it had been a test run by the Russians. ‘It looked like a cyberattacker testing what kind of chaos they could unleash on Election Day,’ says one former federal cybersecurity official who looked into the case. ‘There was no forensic evidence, so we may never know for sure, but the intelligence told us the Russians were bragging about doing just that.’

      It is easy to forget, in the constant flurry of news, that the abiding goal of the Russian operation against the 2016 presidential election was, in the words of the U.S. intelligence community, ‘to undermine public faith in the U.S. democratic process.'”

      As a reminder (which begins the thread I posted above):

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  34. 73 arapaho415
    July 20, 2017 at 6:24 pm

    Hello everyone.

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  36. 75 desertflower
    July 20, 2017 at 7:05 pm

    Fucking idiot. Still living in 1948.

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    • July 20, 2017 at 8:02 pm

    • 80 arapaho415
      July 20, 2017 at 8:16 pm

      Hello again, Sheila.

      I’m appalled at the police chief’s comments.

      She has thrown the officer who shot Justine under the bus — she must take her cues from FUBAR, who throws everyone who works for him under several buses at a time.

      From what I’ve heard/read (not a lot), it sounds like a loud noise spooked the police officers at the same time as Justine reached the patrol car.

      Sadly, this tragically unfortunate incident will do more to divide this already polarized country and do further damage to our relationship with Australia. 😦

  40. 81 globalcitizenlinda
    July 20, 2017 at 8:01 pm

    what more russian collusion news will break this evening?

    we are smack within the time of the evening during which stories have been dropping into the primetime broadcast

  41. 82 Nena20409
    July 20, 2017 at 8:54 pm

  42. 83 Nena20409
    July 20, 2017 at 8:56 pm

  43. 84 Nena20409
    July 20, 2017 at 9:05 pm

  44. 86 Nena20409
    July 20, 2017 at 9:15 pm

  45. 88 globalcitizenlinda
    July 20, 2017 at 9:34 pm

    innocent people do not do this;

  46. 89 criquet
    July 20, 2017 at 9:38 pm

    Just wondered if other TODers have noticed that most of the media keep addressing Donald Trump as the President or Mr President all the time but usually called PBO just Obama as a matter of course. Hmmm….. wonder why?

  47. 90 Nena20409
    July 20, 2017 at 9:41 pm

  48. 91 Nena20409
    July 20, 2017 at 9:43 pm

  49. 95 jacquelineoboomer
    July 20, 2017 at 10:24 pm

    • 96 Obama Grandmama
      July 20, 2017 at 11:56 pm

      The complaint reminds me of when Trump said the judge presiding over the lawsuit against Trump University had a conflict of interest due to his Mexican cultural background.

  50. 98 globalcitizenlinda
    July 20, 2017 at 10:28 pm

    I am maintaining my place to witness live the history in the making for this homegrown demagogue;

    his money is being investigated and his daughter Ivanka has also joined don jr in the investigative line-up;

  51. 102 jacquelineoboomer
    July 20, 2017 at 10:29 pm

  52. 103 jacquelineoboomer
    July 20, 2017 at 10:40 pm

  53. 104 No Child Left Behind
    July 20, 2017 at 10:40 pm

  54. 105 Nena20409
    July 20, 2017 at 10:40 pm

    “Suspicion always haunts the guilty mind.”
    –William Shakespeare

  55. 106 No Child Left Behind
    July 20, 2017 at 10:42 pm

    I guess when you work so closely with His Majesty Sir Toddlership, you get contaminated by his disease.

    • July 21, 2017 at 12:45 am

      At the ACA roundtable with PBO and GOP in 2010 Ryan tried to say that CBO numbers were irrelevant — even though I believe he once was on staff at CBO. GOP would love to dump CBO.

  56. 108 No Child Left Behind
    July 20, 2017 at 10:42 pm

  57. 109 jacquelineoboomer
    July 20, 2017 at 10:50 pm

  58. 113 Nena20409
    July 20, 2017 at 11:04 pm

  59. 114 Nena20409
    July 20, 2017 at 11:07 pm

  60. 115 No Child Left Behind
    July 20, 2017 at 11:09 pm

    Anyone nominated by His M. Lord Toddlership should be investigated.

  61. July 20, 2017 at 11:11 pm

  62. 118 Nena20409
    July 20, 2017 at 11:12 pm

  63. 119 No Child Left Behind
    July 20, 2017 at 11:14 pm

  64. 120 Nena20409
    July 20, 2017 at 11:36 pm

  65. 123 Nena20409
    July 20, 2017 at 11:38 pm

  66. 124 Nena20409
    July 20, 2017 at 11:44 pm

  67. 125 Nena20409
    July 20, 2017 at 11:50 pm

  68. 127 Nena20409
    July 20, 2017 at 11:57 pm

    Another KO’s Tonight?

  69. 128 arapaho415
    July 21, 2017 at 12:05 am

    As much as I doubt that FUBAR has ever uttered a word that considers the consequences of his statement or deed, it looks like his legal team is concocting a defense that has something to do with Nixon, and any actions arising from Watergate are now null and void (purely speculation, but seems like this is where we are heading):


    Authority to pardon himself:

  70. 129 desertflower
    July 21, 2017 at 12:18 am

    Sorry. Diversion.

  71. 133 desertflower
    July 21, 2017 at 12:32 am

    Things that keep me up at night.

  72. July 21, 2017 at 12:46 am

    We are now in a crisis that makes the Civil War pale in comparison.

    All 5 previous Presidents need to unit to defend not just America but also humanity.

    Trump has the power to kill every person on the planet. He is evil and crazy enough to do it.

    goodnight TOD

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  75. 137 desertflower
    July 21, 2017 at 7:11 am

    Lyft, please

  76. 138 desertflower
    July 21, 2017 at 7:12 am

    “Squeaky Clean, Newt”???

  77. 139 globalcitizenlinda
    July 21, 2017 at 8:14 am

    i know that sometimes we see groups of people doing this voter registration and signing petitions for changes in laws or referendums.

    but I think if we are going to get our people registered in time and also add significant changes to policy and laws, this needs to be more organized;

    it would save time and money because people are already gathered, they can do this before the beginning of an organized march;

    we have to work as 5 times the usual efforts because nothing is normal NOW;

    these are some of the groups I could think of just before I drive to work – please modify and send to others that I forgot;

    • 140 GGAIL
      July 21, 2017 at 9:21 am

      They already have registration tables at the events Linda. I’ve worked at one here several months ago. Great idea 💕

  78. July 21, 2017 at 8:17 am

    45 is in self-preservation mode. He doesn’t care about the GOP’s agenda. He doesn’t care about his supposed agenda — the one upon which his voting base was built. His only care right now is protecting his businesses (I think even family is secondary) and the relationship he has with Putin, the Kremlin, and any other Russian business entities that can benefit him.

    He’s already talking PARDONS. That word in itself is an admission of guilt. He is openly announcing his efforts to obstruct/interfere with Mueller’s investigation — impeachable offenses. He is even saying why… the shadiness of his businesses must be epic; even outside of his ties to Russia.
    He’s trying to intimate that Mueller is working outside the scope of his authority. If I remember correctly, Mueller was given latitude to go WHEREVER his investigation led…even outside the scope of Russia’s interference in our elections. In fact, Mueller has already gone there.

    45 is like a rabid animal who has been trapped. He is finding that the tactics he used in business don’t work quite as well in the federal government. He is “learning” that the powers of the president are not as far-reaching as he thought. He is lashing out at any and every one. He was already dangerous, but it has gone to another level. You’re talking about someone who has a history of being vengeful…the “if someone hits him, he hits back 10 times harder” spiel.

    And yet, crickets from the GOP. Saying they are focused on their agenda and are trying to stay out of Russia “thing” is bull. They can’t do much of significance while the 45-storm continues to brew. While 45 remains in the Oval Office, there is so much damage he can do, and IS doing. His ignorance of and ignoring of protocol — especially when it comes to foreign policy, and especially when it comes to Russia — is wrecking our national security. It is apparent that he is taking his direction from Putin/the Kremlin. Reversing Obama regulations and policies is not just about trying to undo Obama’s legacy (which appeals to the GOP and his base). It is more about appeasing Putin and any other Russians he is indebted to. The legislative branch is the one that can put him in check; can move to remove him. The GOP is showing the nation — the world — that their priority is not about the common defense and general welfare of this country. Our enemies — and maybe some of our lukewarm allies — are taking advantage of this.

  79. July 21, 2017 at 8:25 am

    Russia is throwing 45 under the bus.

    • July 21, 2017 at 8:38 am

      Even if Lavrov is lying – which is highly possible, 45 has put himself in a position that he cannot refute that claim. Always doing what he wants to rather than listening to his aides will come back to bite him.

  80. July 21, 2017 at 8:40 am

    Senate Republicans are scrambling to reach consensus on a way to move forward with health care reform as they begin a critical weekend. A vote is expected to take place next Tuesday but senators don’t yet know whether they will be voting on a straight repeal of Obamacare, a repeal with a replacement bill or perhaps something else.

    And as senators left the Capitol Thursday, Republicans appeared no closer to the 50 votes they would need to be successful in any scenario.

  81. July 21, 2017 at 8:41 am

  82. July 21, 2017 at 8:45 am

  83. July 21, 2017 at 8:49 am

    Most of us already knew that it was always about *him*.

  84. July 21, 2017 at 9:11 am

    I agree. Democrats were phucking idiots not to jam this muthaphucka up. He simply CANNOT BE TRUSTED.

    Trump’s FBI pick gets treated as if these were normal times
    07/20/17 04:45 PM—UPDATED 07/20/17 07:19 PM
    By Steve Benen


    Christopher Wray, President Donald Trump’s nominee to lead the FBI, easily cleared a key Senate committee Thursday – even following an explosive Trump interview in The New York Times that prompted Democrats to raise renewed concerns of political interference with the Department of Justice.

    The Senate Judiciary Committee voted 20-0 in favor of Wray, a former Justice Department official who has been in private practice for the past dozen years. His nomination now goes to the Senate floor, where Majority Leader Mitch McConnell has indicated he intends to have Wray confirmed before the August recess.

    What we’re witnessing is a process in which the Senate is treating Trump’s nominee as if these were normal circumstances – but they’re not.

  85. July 21, 2017 at 9:16 am

    I was really glad that Maddow spelled this out last night. It was good for her to connect the dots.

    I’m still amused that Dolt45 thought that Attorney General White Citizens Council had any:
    a) self-respect
    b) honor

    Resign? After he’s getting to fulfill his White Supremacist fantasies?
    Phuck outta here, Dolt45.
    You wanna get rid of the KKKeebler Elf, you’re gonna have to man up and fire him.

    If Trump wants to fire Mueller, he’ll have to fire Sessions first
    Rachel Maddow looks at some of the background of former Donald Trump campaign manager Paul Manafort that is being looked at in the Trump Russia investigation and notes that if Trump is afraid the investigation is getting to close, he’ll have to fire Jeff Sessions before he can fire Robert Mueller.

  86. July 21, 2017 at 9:17 am

    WaPo: Trump seeks advice on pardoning himself, family members
    Ashley Parker, reporter for The Washington Post, talks with Rachel Maddow about new reporting that Donald Trump is trying to undercut Special Counsel Robert Mueller’s investigation and is asking advisers about pardoning himself, aides and family members.

  87. July 21, 2017 at 9:19 am

    Only Maddow seems to be focusing on this, and she’s absolutely right.

    Donald Trump threatens to turn back clock on FBI ethics
    Michael Beschloss, NBC News presidential historian, talks with Rachel Maddow about the unprecedented nature of Donald Trump’s queries about pardon power and his “blood-chilling” intentions toward the FBI that would undo decades of ethical standards and independence.

  88. July 21, 2017 at 9:20 am

    Trump business, finances part of Mueller Russia investigation
    Greg Farrell, investigative reporter for Bloomberg News, talks with Rachel Maddow about Special Counsel Robert Mueller including Donald Trump’s personal business and finances as part of the Trump Russia investigation.

  89. July 21, 2017 at 9:37 am

    The President at War
    Published JULY 21, 2017 1:08 AM

    …there are lots of details. But each has the same effect. President Trump will define the scope of Mueller’s investigation. Mueller will continue his investigation only as long as President Trump wants: Trump and his spokespeople have now repeatedly said that the President reserves the right to fire Mueller. The President is also prepared to pardon some or all of the people under investigation. Again, many details, one upshot: Mueller can only do what the President allows. That amounts to saying that the President will not allow the law to operate with respect to him or his family.

    From a different perspective, we are beginning to see what everyone who’s studied Trump’s business history knows: to paraphrase the Army maxim, Trump’s business would not survive first contact with real legal scrutiny. So he made clear in yesterday’s Times interview that any review of his or his family’s business history would be unacceptable.

    This paragraph from the Post is particularly striking:
    “Trump has been fuming about the probe in recent weeks as he has been informed about the legal questions that he and his family could face. His primary frustration centers on why allegations that his campaign coordinated with Russia should spread into scrutinizing many years of Trump dealmaking. He has told aides he was especially disturbed after learning Mueller would be able to access several years of his tax returns.”


    What it all comes down to is this. As I’ve written before, President Trump has been in crooked business for decades: money laundering, mob partnerships, various straight-up swindles. Statutes of limitations will have run out on most of those infractions but not all of them. This has always been obvious to me and everyone else who’s looked closely at Trump’s record. What recent weeks has made clear to me is that there’s almost certainly lots of dirty laundry tied to money deals and connivances with the Russia government.

  90. July 21, 2017 at 9:50 am

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