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  1. 1 GGAIL
    July 16, 2017 at 9:56 pm

    Yes. We. Do!

  2. 12 Gazelle
    July 16, 2017 at 10:00 pm

    Lawdy, what a McTurtle face! Gotta wash my eyes right away! 🙂

  3. 13 arapaho415
    July 16, 2017 at 10:06 pm

    Hello again, TODville.

    Just tried posting this, so if it’s a duplicate, I apologize.

    re: McCain at Comey hearing

    MSN link (avoid NYTimes paywall):


    • July 16, 2017 at 10:11 pm

      I bet he has the best health coverage that our taxes can buy.

    • 15 arapaho415
      July 16, 2017 at 10:14 pm

      WP won’t allow me to post an excerpt from the @nytimes article, so here it is in tweet format:

    • 16 desertflower
      July 16, 2017 at 11:04 pm

      I just got through writing him an email and sending my get well wishes, but mostly to ask him to let others have the same peace of mind that having good health insurance means…not the shitty stuff they exempted themselves from getting so they can have those Essential Benefits covered.

      I never hear back. Never an acknowledgment or anything. Hell, half the time no one answers the phone in his office. Time for a new senator. He should have never run again last time, IMO.

      • 17 Dudette
        July 17, 2017 at 9:35 am

        Well done df!
        Whether you get an acknowledgement back or not, someone on his team will have read it.

    • 18 globalcitizenlinda
      July 16, 2017 at 11:43 pm

      I made a comment about this here yesterday. I not a doctor but it occurred to me that the need for this medical intervention could be related to what we saw & heard during Director Comey’s testimony

      • 19 arapaho415
        July 16, 2017 at 11:53 pm

        Thanks, GCL.

        I recalled a couple of comments here about McCain’s bizarre questioning of Comey and his current medical condition, and seems your observation may be the right one.

  4. 20 arapaho415
    July 16, 2017 at 10:24 pm

    For DF (who posted a teaser for this program on the previous thread):

    And also from the previous thread (our convo on the tragedy in Payson AZ) — a simply gorgeous, idyllic, setting. Have always wanted to get to this area, but usually run out of time when visiting AZ-NM.

  5. 24 desertflower
    July 16, 2017 at 11:11 pm

  6. 26 desertflower
    July 16, 2017 at 11:13 pm

  7. 27 desertflower
    July 16, 2017 at 11:15 pm

  8. 28 desertflower
    July 16, 2017 at 11:17 pm

    • 29 arapaho415
      July 16, 2017 at 11:50 pm

      More on Russian attorney Veselnitskaya.

      From @BillBrowder’s twitter timeline:

      Bill Browder (CEO Hermitage Capital, Head of Global Magnitsky Justice campaign, and Author of Red Notice) was interviewed in this Richard Engel segment which @maddow aired on July 7 (click on link for 12 minute video):

  9. 30 arapaho415
    July 16, 2017 at 11:32 pm

    Here’s a tweet for MTMarilyn.

    Wikipedia tells me that @McFaul grew up in Butte and Bozeman…

  10. July 16, 2017 at 11:39 pm

  11. July 16, 2017 at 11:43 pm

  12. 34 globalcitizenlinda
    July 17, 2017 at 12:33 am

    I am struck by the coincidence that the health care (now gop death care or wealth care) policy formulation has been influenced by the sickness of McCain & the loss of Senator Ted Kennedy

  13. July 17, 2017 at 2:11 am

    Ex-Bush ethics lawyer: If you don’t revoke Kushner’s security clearance, just give one to Putin.
    Love it but why bother with Kushner’s clearance? Why is His Nibs still gracing the Halls?

  14. July 17, 2017 at 2:56 am

    If you haven’t read this yet – you must.

  15. July 17, 2017 at 7:49 am

    This is a damned shame…

    • 40 globalcitizenlinda
      July 17, 2017 at 8:18 am

      who thinks it is in the best interest of the US when the military loses able-bodied and committed recruits.

      another advantage is that with a diverse military, the US that operates in different parts of the world, is able to get into a country with members of its own who already know the communities and it cultures and languages.

      this would enable a force to operate with:
      – less probability of making mistakes that would result into attacks on civilian populations;
      – more ability to collect useful intelligence and improve accuracy and speed of operation ;

      – more understanding of how approach the community and get their cooperation and long-term commitment to the mission ;

      – less reliance on hostile/co-opted local interpreters (some of whom have been fake and have turned on and injured or killed the US military members);

      what a mess these incompetent and short-sighted bigots in Team Treason are making of this country

  16. 43 globalcitizenlinda
    July 17, 2017 at 8:01 am

    good morning everyone!

    have a great day

  17. July 17, 2017 at 8:18 am

  18. July 17, 2017 at 8:30 am

    Saying “We’ve grown accustomed” implies this is the norm and therefore we have accepted it. While GOPers (especially) lie as easily as they breathe, I, for one, do not accept it. Moreover, I do not accept the MSM picking and choosing the lies they decide to call out or refute. Even more, it annoys me how often Dems passively sit by and don’t push back while Repubs re-enforce their lies by repeating them…often.

  19. July 17, 2017 at 8:43 am

    I was listening to a segment of Morning Joe this morning when there was a discussion about 45’s behavior, and basically foreign leaders lack of desire to deal with him. It also extended to Republicans starting to distance themselves, even more so with his low approval ratings.

    One person made a comment about the presidency changing a person, and that many Republicans were hoping this would be the case with 45.

    I thought to myself that they obviously weren’t paying attention when PBO and MO said that the presidency doesn’t change you; it enhances who you are.

    Michelle Obama: “Being President Doesn’t Change Who You Are, It Reveals Who You Are”

    Obama: ‘What You Are, Who You Are’ Doesn’t Change as President. It magnifies who you are. It spotlights who you are.

    And *this* is exactly what we’re seeing with 45.

    • 47 globalcitizenlinda
      July 17, 2017 at 9:23 am

      I too heard that discussion & i sent a reminder of what PBO and FLOTUS said to Mika & Kasirye Hunt (@kasie) the NBC reporter who was part of this discussion. We were repeatedly warned by The First Couple but we didn’t listen to and/or take their advice to heart

  20. July 17, 2017 at 8:48 am

    But Republicans don’t see a problem because *they* — not the country and not our democracy — benefited from this.

    • 49 arapaho415
      July 17, 2017 at 9:24 am

      Would really like to see what WSJ has to say about South Carolina, but article is behind paywall, can’t read more than first paragraph, and a portion of the second. 😦

      • July 17, 2017 at 10:18 am

        I was able to get to it. I guess I haven’t reached my quota…

        At any rate, here is the portion of the article about SC:

        On Election Day alone, there were nearly 150,000 attempts to penetrate the state’s voter-registration system, according to a post election report by the South Carolina State Election Commission.

        And South Carolina wasn’t even a competitive state. If hackers were that persistent against a state that President Donald Trump won comfortably, with 54.9% of the vote, it suggests they may have targeted political swing states even more.

        [In harder-fought Illinois, for instance, hackers were hitting the State Board of Elections “5 times per second, 24 hours per day” from late June until Aug. 12, 2016, when the attacks ceased for unknown reasons…]

        Unlike in Illinois, South Carolina didn’t see evidence that any attempted penetration succeeded, said Chris Whitmire, the State Election Commission’s director of public information and training, last week. Most of the attempted intrusions in that state likely came from automated computer bots, not thousands of individual hackers.

        “Security has been a top priority for the [State Election Commission] since implementing the statewide voting system in 2004.”

        “However, events leading up to the 2016 General Election, including the breaches of other states’ voter-registration systems, created an election-security environment that was very different.”

      • July 17, 2017 at 10:23 am

        In South Carolina, state election officials met with FBI and state law-enforcement officials, according to public meeting minutes from August.

        On Sept. 6, Marci Andino, the state’s executive director for elections, requested assistance from the DHS…

        Also in early September, after meetings with its computer staff, South Carolina used an expedited process to hire Soteria, a private cybersecurity firm…The South Carolina National Guard’s cybersecurity specialists also conducted on-site security assessments at county election offices.

        To “anyone who was willing to help in 2016, we quickly said, ‘Yes, we want your help and we want anything you can do to help,’ ”

        On Sept. 18, DHS officials remotely completed an initial “cyber-hygiene scan” for South Carolina. The scans examined the state agency’s website and office network, checking for vulnerabilities using a federally-maintained database. The scan didn’t examine vote-tabulation machines, which aren’t connected to the internet, or the statewide voter-registration database.

        The DHS discovered 55 vulnerabilities—the virtual equivalent of unlocked doors—across four internet-connected devices used by the State Election Commission, according to a copy of the DHS report. Two of them were classified as “critical,” the highest level of severity.

        The DHS reports don’t indicate that hackers penetrated South Carolina’s election systems. The type of scan that the DHS conducted is generally used to identify weak spots, rather than determine whether an intrusion occurred.

        “It’s like saying ‘I’m more susceptible to catch a cold.’ When I actually catch the cold, that’s the exploit.”

        In the week of Sept. 26, Soteria, the private cybersecurity firm, started its work on South Carolina’s election system.

        Twenty-five days passed before the majority of the vulnerabilities, including the two most severe ones, were fixed, DHS reports show.

      • July 17, 2017 at 10:25 am

        By Election Day, South Carolina had resolved all but one low-risk vulnerability, according to a DHS report dated Nov. 8. Malicious actors, who haven’t been identified, tried 149,832 times to find it, according to the South Carolina State Election Commission’s report.

        A month after Election Day, on Dec. 13, the number of hits dropped to 113,372. The attempted penetrations never again rose above 100,000, ultimately decreasing to just 44,754 attempts on April 11.

  21. July 17, 2017 at 8:54 am

    Thought these comments were interesting. Has anyone else heard anything about McCain’s surgery being more serious than an eye hemorrhage?

    • July 17, 2017 at 8:58 am


      “While John is recovering, the Senate will continue our work on legislative items and nominations, and will defer consideration of the Better Care Act,” McConnell said in a statement over the weekend.

      The move is expected to delay the legislation for at least a week as McCain recovers in Arizona. The Mayo Clinic, which removed a blood clot from above the senator’s left eye, noted it was waiting for the results from a pathology report to determine next steps in his treatment.

      • 55 Don
        July 17, 2017 at 9:21 am

        What galls me to my core is that this fucker gets free health care and he’s likely to cast a vote taking away health care from the most vulnerable. How do these fuckers sleep at night?

        • 56 Don
          July 17, 2017 at 9:24 am

          And no, I don’t wish this fucker well. I don’t believe in turning the other cheek, I’m not about to tell this fucker to get well soon. Because as soon as he does gets well, his actions are going to cause a lot of people not to get well.

    • 57 arapaho415
      July 17, 2017 at 9:11 am

      GM SWBG.

      See upthread (comment #12 at this moment) for a link to NYTimes article, available on MSN (Windows 10 news feed) to avoid NYTimes paywall.

      • July 17, 2017 at 9:46 am

        Good Morning, arapaho415. The response I originally posted to you seems to have vanished into the WP black hole (twice).

        It appears to be the same article. I was finally able to post some excerpts from the article further downthread.

    • 59 globalcitizenlinda
      July 17, 2017 at 9:58 am

      Given all the hacking of Twitter accounts that has been going on, please be cautious of some of the specific accounts you link to. The profile of this “wiretapped pateiot” and the information that account shares gives me pause …….

      • July 17, 2017 at 10:10 am

        I almost did not post this after reading their profile, GLC, but posted it because this was the first I had seen or heard that McCain’s surgery may have been more serious than previously indicated and it was retweeted from an account that I link to regularly. I’ve since found links from other sources, one of which turned out to be a source arapaho415 provided earlier in the post.

        • 61 globalcitizenlinda
          July 17, 2017 at 12:28 pm

          Oh yes, the original story needs to be shared. But some of the extreme rightwingers’ accounts (not this particular one) in the comments have been known to turn around and report people to Twitter as “abusive”. The result of this deceptive targeting has sometimes been Twitter banning accounts unfairly

      • 63 arapaho415
        July 17, 2017 at 10:18 am

        Thanks GCL for keeping a wary eye on Twitter sources.

        Unfortunately it’s so easy to accidentally aid FUBAR/Putin/Berniebot meddling chaos, given the avalanche of disinformation sources. 😦

  22. 65 JER
    July 17, 2017 at 8:57 am

    @ABC 52 minutes ago

    Pres. Trump’s 6-month approval rating is lowest of any president in 70 years. What you need to know about politics: http://abcn.ws/2t7y54s

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  26. 71 ydavis00
    July 17, 2017 at 9:19 am

  27. July 17, 2017 at 9:22 am

    PBO was often criticized for supposedly apologizing for the US. But these [same] critics apparently think it’s okay for 45 to talk bad about the US while he overseas?

  28. July 17, 2017 at 9:42 am

    I’ve tried this post twice. Maybe third time will be a charm.

    The condition for which Senator McCain had surgery on Friday may be more serious than initial descriptions have implied, and it may delay his return to Washington by at least a week or two, medical experts said on Sunday.

    The statement from Mr. McCain’s office said a two-inch blood clot was removed from “above his left eye” during a “minimally invasive craniotomy with an eyebrow incision” at the Mayo Clinic Hospital in Phoenix, “following a routine annual physical.” Surgeons there are not conducting interviews. Mr. McCain’s communications director, Julie Tarallo, said further information would be made public when it became available.

    A craniotomy is an opening of the skull, and an eyebrow incision would be used to reach a clot in or near the left frontal lobes of the brain, neurosurgeons who were not involved in Mr. McCain’s care said.

  29. 75 Dudette
    July 17, 2017 at 9:52 am

    Good Morning TOD Family!
    I know there’s lots going on today. When you can, take a moment to acknowledge the good and the beautiful in people and the world around you. 😘

    Have you see this boatload of cuteness?

  30. 83 Dudette
    July 17, 2017 at 9:55 am

  31. 84 ydavis00
    July 17, 2017 at 9:55 am

    • 85 0388jojothecat
      July 17, 2017 at 2:02 pm

      I think it’s cute and gives them a whimsical appeal…..some people are just too sensitive.

  32. 86 Dudette
    July 17, 2017 at 9:59 am

  33. 87 Dudette
    July 17, 2017 at 9:59 am

  34. 88 Dudette
    July 17, 2017 at 10:01 am

  35. July 17, 2017 at 10:02 am

    And now it’s become, not what is communicated during the “press briefing” but whether it is on or off- camera.

    The media doesn’t seem to get anything of substance or fact from these briefings so why bother attending? It appears the significant information is coming from outside the briefing room to those “journalists” who are willing to work to get the information.

  36. 91 Dudette
    July 17, 2017 at 10:03 am

  37. 94 desertflower
    July 17, 2017 at 10:05 am

    It’s gonna be so great.

  38. 95 desertflower
    July 17, 2017 at 10:08 am


  39. 96 Dudette
    July 17, 2017 at 10:08 am

  40. 100 desertflower
    July 17, 2017 at 10:11 am

  41. 101 JER
    July 17, 2017 at 10:13 am

  42. 102 Dudette
    July 17, 2017 at 10:15 am

  43. 104 Dudette
    July 17, 2017 at 10:17 am

  44. 106 Dudette
    July 17, 2017 at 10:19 am

  45. 109 desertflower
    July 17, 2017 at 10:20 am

    Just dropping this here.


    Obamacare increased access to physicals like the one that found McCain’s blood clot
    The Senate wants to cut that exact kind of coverage.

  46. 111 JER
    July 17, 2017 at 10:20 am

    • 112 Dudette
      July 17, 2017 at 10:50 am

      “Biden will be in town for his American Promise Tour, during which he’ll talk about his memoir “Promise Me, Dad: A Year of Hope, Hardship, and Purpose” (Flatiron, $27). The book, due out Nov. 14, will not only touch on the big political moments of Biden’s life, including his work with President Barack Obama, but will also deal with the loss of his son Beau, who died at 46 of brain cancer, and how Biden is finding new purpose in a troubled political time.”

  47. 113 JER
    July 17, 2017 at 10:24 am

  48. 114 ydavis00
    July 17, 2017 at 10:29 am

  49. 117 desertflower
    July 17, 2017 at 10:35 am

    First, Do No Harm.

  50. 119 desertflower
    July 17, 2017 at 10:38 am

  51. 120 Dudette
    July 17, 2017 at 10:38 am

    Hmm, so if Secret Service was there, they’d have been protecting the candidate, right? 🤔

  52. July 17, 2017 at 10:47 am

    Trump Jr Russian meeting story unpacking like a nesting doll
    Rachel Maddow reports on new revelations about the number of people in attendance at Donald Trump Jr.’s campaign meeting with Russians, and a bevy of new details about who those people are and what they did

  53. July 17, 2017 at 10:48 am

    Russia attack strategy: exploit ‘aligned parties’
    Michael Carpenter, former deputy assistant secretary of Defense for Russia, Ukraine, and Eurasia, talks with Rachel Maddow about Russia’s practice of finding local groups in the countries they target for cyber attacks and other intrusions.

  54. July 17, 2017 at 10:49 am

    Trump camp’s Russian contacts ‘very far out of the norm’
    Michael Carpenter, former deputy assistant secretary of Defense for Russia, Ukraine, and Eurasia, talks with Rachel Maddow about the sheer number of Kremlin-connected Russians who met with members of the Trump campaign.

  55. July 17, 2017 at 10:50 am

    White House fails to protect personal data in voter feedback
    Rachel Maddow reports on the White House publishing the feedback to its voter fraud task force without redacting any of the personal information, hurting confidence in their ability to properly handle the actual voter data they seek.

  56. 125 Dudette
    July 17, 2017 at 10:53 am

  57. 130 desertflower
    July 17, 2017 at 11:01 am

    Of course it is. I DON’T WANT MY TAX $$$ PAYING FOR A STUPID WALL!!!

  58. 131 JER
    July 17, 2017 at 11:03 am

  59. 132 desertflower
    July 17, 2017 at 11:06 am

  60. 133 Dudette
    July 17, 2017 at 11:06 am

  61. 134 Dudette
    July 17, 2017 at 11:07 am

  62. 135 desertflower
    July 17, 2017 at 11:07 am

    There are no coincidences.

  63. 136 idon
    July 17, 2017 at 11:12 am

    Uh huh

  64. 138 ydavis00
    July 17, 2017 at 11:13 am

  65. 139 desertflower
    July 17, 2017 at 11:15 am

    Is it just me that finds WaPo’s slogan kind of ridiculous? It’s a great slogan, ‘ Democracy Dies in Darkness” That is true! But whenever you click on a WaPo story, it’s behind a paywall….so, you get to read a quick snippet….then it all fades to black….you know, that “darkness” they eluded to. Just made me think…

    • 140 Bill
      July 17, 2017 at 11:26 am

      Newspapers such as The Post, The New York Times, and The Guardian need our support especially in these times. They are commercial ventures and cannot exist without the support of the public.

  66. 142 desertflower
    July 17, 2017 at 11:17 am

    He should call it all what it is. LIES

  67. 143 ydavis00
    July 17, 2017 at 11:21 am

  68. 144 ydavis00
    July 17, 2017 at 11:26 am

  69. 145 ydavis00
    July 17, 2017 at 11:29 am

  70. 146 ydavis00
    July 17, 2017 at 11:32 am

    Making sure the international workers he needs can get in

  71. 147 ydavis00
    July 17, 2017 at 11:33 am

  72. 148 ydavis00
    July 17, 2017 at 11:37 am

  73. 149 ydavis00
    July 17, 2017 at 11:38 am

  74. 150 ydavis00
    July 17, 2017 at 11:39 am

  75. 152 ydavis00
    July 17, 2017 at 11:40 am

  76. 154 desertflower
    July 17, 2017 at 11:44 am

    Perfect time to reacquaint yourselves with this amazing site. Watch the video


  77. 156 desertflower
    July 17, 2017 at 11:50 am

  78. 157 desertflower
    July 17, 2017 at 11:57 am

    And I thought Republicans said you could just run into the ER for your cancer treatments…..

  79. 159 desertflower
    July 17, 2017 at 11:58 am

    If you’re in DC….

  80. July 17, 2017 at 12:18 pm

    The Fix Analysis
    The prevailing view of Trump has only worsened: He’s ‘unpresidential’
    By Aaron Blake July 17 at 10:40 AM

    During the 2016 campaign, the biggest concern about President Trump almost always boiled down to one thing: his temperament. Even people who liked Trump had a problem with it. Polls regularly showed that more than 6 in 10 registered voters said he didn’t have the right personality and style to be an effective president. Just weeks before the election, 62 percent said he didn’t have this baseline quality, according to a Washington Post/ABC News poll. He won anyway.

    Trump has now been president for six months, and he’s had ample opportunity during that time to prove people wrong. He’s taken foreign trips, responded to crises and delivered a well-received speech to Congress.

    And yet, Americans may now see him as even less presidential than they did before. A new Post-ABC poll shows a whopping 70 percent of Americans describe Trump as acting “unpresidential.” Only 24 percent say he’s acted in a way that’s “fitting and proper for a president of the United States.”

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