Karma Can Be Funny

141 Responses to “Karma Can Be Funny”

  1. 1 magapie
    January 30, 2017 at 10:10 pm

    It was 565 days between Nixon’s January 20, 1973 inaugural address and his August 8, 1974 resignation. Think about how much faster information flows 40+ years later. President Clownstick is cratering at warp speed. Let’s count the days.

  2. 3 susanne
    January 30, 2017 at 10:12 pm

    PBO was not playing around when he nominated Judge Garland. Another example of one of those brilliant maneuvers that was a bit fuzzy-looking at the time.

  3. January 30, 2017 at 10:15 pm

    Can hardly keep up! Evening TOD folks1 Bless you Nerdy.

  4. 5 Nerdy Wonka
    January 30, 2017 at 10:17 pm

  5. January 30, 2017 at 10:19 pm

    Yes Karma can be funny. 🙂

  6. 8 desertflower
    January 30, 2017 at 10:22 pm

    I was on the emergency action call from Indivisible …much to unpack.

    THe biggest thing that I took away was to stay engaged at the local level and to push your senators and rep to withhold consent until the Muslim/refugee ban is done away with. If you talk to your Dem senators and they say they disagree with the ban, then push them harder and demand that they withhold consent on literally everything that comes before the Senate until this EO is rescinded. That means any bill that is being brought up, or any nomination that McConnell wants to push through. You need to DEMAND that they withhold consent on literally everything until this is done. Those of us in Red states with Republican senators can and should, do this as well… these guys are getting nervous and all they want to do is be reelected….force their hands. You have power! The one question they ask themselves is “How am I going to get reelected?” Trump is not their friend and I think that his dangerous, unhinged antics are really putting these RW senators in a bind.


    Red state senators need to be forced to take a position on this. MAKE THEM OWN THIS! If they agree with the ban, they need to go on record and not be cowards. If they do not agree with the ban, then they need to withhold consent on senate business until this EO Muslim/Refugee ban is gone! More later.

  7. 9 magapie
    January 30, 2017 at 10:26 pm

    If Trump had not been born into wealth and privilege, would he be rich today or more likely in prison for con games and other forms of theft?

  8. 11 globalcitizenlinda
    January 30, 2017 at 10:27 pm

  9. 12 Nerdy Wonka
    January 30, 2017 at 10:37 pm

  10. 13 globalcitizenlinda
    January 30, 2017 at 10:43 pm

    • 14 CEB
      January 30, 2017 at 11:05 pm

      She knew what was coming, but she stood up loud and clear anyway. So glad that her statement is being widely disseminated so that the deplorable ones can not slander her.

      • 15 globalcitizenlinda
        January 31, 2017 at 12:31 am

        yep; that is the reason I keep circulating it whenever I come across is … we know those lying scumbags are capable of all kinds of slander especially if someone stands up to them

  11. 16 desertflower
    January 30, 2017 at 10:43 pm

    Remember this one? Seems like it was so long ago…

  12. 17 desertflower
    January 30, 2017 at 10:44 pm

    • 18 CEB
      January 30, 2017 at 11:08 pm

      All of this. That fool in the White House and his incompetent racists crew think that they are living in episodes of The Apprentice. Welcome to reality and the rule of law, motherfuckers!

  13. 19 desertflower
    January 30, 2017 at 10:46 pm

    • 20 CEB
      January 30, 2017 at 11:13 pm

      PBO put ethical people in these important positions who will not go along with an ignorant and dangerous dictator and his crew. He can fire everyone, but the law is the law. I hope that all of those who are standing up for what is right will be able to find well-paying new careers soon. They should not suffer for the sacrifice that they made for all of us. They are true patriots, sheroes and heroes.

  14. 21 desertflower
    January 30, 2017 at 10:48 pm

  15. 22 jacquelineoboomer
    January 30, 2017 at 10:48 pm

  16. 23 Nerdy Wonka
    January 30, 2017 at 10:54 pm


    • 24 susanne
      January 30, 2017 at 11:32 pm

      oh nos! him had to leave the hayseed playhouse!

      wth was he doing out at a party with an operation of this gravity going down?

  17. 25 jacquelineoboomer
    January 30, 2017 at 10:54 pm

  18. 26 desertflower
    January 30, 2017 at 10:55 pm

    This sounds ominous

  19. 34 jacquelineoboomer
    January 30, 2017 at 10:59 pm

    This (“doesn’t do any of that begging trump to be a good boy stuff”) is because the people hit the streets and the Democrats in Congress and beyond all of a sudden feel they have the wind at their back. Funny how that works!

    And may more of it happen, from Black Lives Matter to LGBTQ issues (which we hear may be next). All issues are everybody’s issues, as Americans. E pluribus unum. #ThanksObama #ThanksSally #ThanksSpeakerForLifePelosi

  20. 35 jacquelineoboomer
    January 30, 2017 at 11:18 pm

  21. 36 jacquelineoboomer
    January 30, 2017 at 11:26 pm

  22. 37 CEB
    January 30, 2017 at 11:28 pm

    All of that civility, respectful engagement, and insistence that each branch of the government carry out their responsibilities that PBO espoused for years was greeted with scorn, obstruction, disrespect and cowardice from republicans and democrats in congress. Now they have the polar opposite who has set the country back over a generation in less than 2 weeks. They and millions got the wealthy white males and the racists that they always wanted and they are on a reckless path to destroying any and everyone. Those who thought that they were safe are in the cross hairs of a monstrosity that they helped to build. Karma is a fierce bitch who is coming for everyone.

    • 38 susanne
      January 30, 2017 at 11:37 pm

      PBO sincerely loves the United States, whereas DT lusts for what he can wring out of it. We’re living in a nightmare, but instead of running from the monster, we have to stare it down, and wave our pitchforks till it retreats to its troll hole. Ugly times.

      • 39 Believe Again
        January 31, 2017 at 4:12 am

        If it retreats. Remember a nutter does not act like a normal person would. I would say, it will be better for people to prepare for the “what ifs” that way if it does show up, you are not just reacting but strategically responding…

  23. 40 jacquelineoboomer
    January 30, 2017 at 11:42 pm

  24. January 30, 2017 at 11:53 pm

    From Jesuit priest Fr. James Martin S.J. of America magazine.

    • 42 jacquelineoboomer
      January 31, 2017 at 12:09 am

      I follow him and the magazine all the time … they are doing great work, addressing these issues. So are some of the highest ranking Catholic bishops. Glad to see it. And the one the most glad in their chain is Pope Francis, I’m sure!

  25. 43 jacquelineoboomer
    January 30, 2017 at 11:55 pm

    More for the Karma page.

  26. January 30, 2017 at 11:56 pm

    Fr. James Martin S.J. on our current challenge.

  27. 49 CEB
    January 31, 2017 at 12:02 am

    All of the world now knows that elections matter! No empty protest votes, no staying home, no one issue voters, no voter suppression all of this so that we will never have the crisis that we are in now. All of those who are responsible for this destruction owe the world an abject apology and all of their energy in rectifying this atrocity.

  28. 50 Gazelle
    January 31, 2017 at 12:13 am

    When plain angst thru this DT BS, go here & click that trumpet: TrumpDonald.org

    Silly as it is, I cracked up for the first time today!

  29. 56 jacquelineoboomer
    January 31, 2017 at 12:14 am

  30. 57 Gazelle
    January 31, 2017 at 12:43 am

    [Not today, not ever again, Effers!]

    We, the country, were played in the election. We are now being played once more. We will be played right into the abyss if we don’t wake up and really begin to question what those in power are actually doing.

    from Boston College professor of American History, Heather Cox Richardson: she is writing from the position of a moderate (albeit one who has published several books on the history of the Republican party).

    “There is an important non-partisan point to make today.

    What Bannon is doing, most dramatically with last night’s ban on immigration from seven predominantly Muslim countries– is creating what is known as a “shock event.” Such an event is unexpected and confusing and throws a society into chaos. People scramble to react to the event, usually along some fault line that those responsible for the event can widen by claiming that they alone know how to restore order. When opponents speak out, the authors of the shock event call them enemies. As society reels and tempers run high, those responsible for the shock event perform a sleight of hand to achieve their real goal, a goal they know to be hugely unpopular, but from which everyone has been distracted as they fight over the initial event. There is no longer concerted opposition to the real goal; opposition divides along the partisan lines established by the shock event.

    Last night’s Executive Order has all the hallmarks of a shock event. It was not reviewed by any governmental agencies or lawyers before it was released, and counterterrorism experts insist they did not ask for it. People charged with enforcing it got no instructions about how to do so. Courts immediately have declared parts of it unconstitutional, but border police in some airports are refusing to stop enforcing it.
    It is designed explicitly to divide people who might otherwise come together so they cannot stand against something its authors think they won’t like. I don’t know what Bannon is up to– although I have some guesses– but because I know Bannon’s ideas well, I am positive that there is not a single person whom I consider a friend on either side of the aisle– and my friends range pretty widely– who will benefit from whatever it is. If the shock event strategy works, though, many of you will blame each other, rather than Bannon, for the fallout. And the country will have been tricked into accepting their real goal.

    But because shock events destabilize a society, they can also be used positively. We do not have to respond along old fault lines. We could just as easily reorganize into a different pattern that threatens the people who sparked the event. A successful shock event depends on speed and chaos because it requires knee-jerk reactions so that people divide along established lines. This, for example, is how Confederate leaders railroaded the initial southern states out of the Union. If people realize they are being played, though, they can reach across old lines and reorganize to challenge the leaders who are pulling the strings. This was Lincoln’s strategy when he joined together Whigs, Democrats, Free-Soilers, anti-Nebraska voters, and nativists into the new Republican Party to stand against the Slave Power. Five years before, such a coalition would have been unimaginable. Members of those groups agreed on very little other than that they wanted all Americans to have equal economic opportunity. Once they began to work together to promote a fair economic system, though, they found much common ground. They ended up rededicating the nation to a “government of the people, by the people, and for the people.”

    Confederate leaders and Lincoln both knew about the political potential of a shock event. As we are in the midst of one, it seems worth noting that Lincoln seemed to have the better idea about how to use it.

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  32. January 31, 2017 at 1:03 am

    goodnight TOD …

  33. January 31, 2017 at 1:43 am

  34. 66 Gazelle
    January 31, 2017 at 1:53 am

    I was really on my way to bed, until I saw this & had to share w/ my TODers! Love, love, love! Full cast of Marvel’s Black Panther:

  35. January 31, 2017 at 1:59 am

  36. 70 JER
    January 31, 2017 at 7:26 am

    Good Morning Everybody.

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    We need love. (Check back row center.)

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  37. 72 desertflower
    January 31, 2017 at 7:45 am

    Morning everyone. ***** IMPORTANT****** ACT TODAY IF YOU NEED INSURANCE!!!

  38. 73 desertflower
    January 31, 2017 at 7:46 am

  39. 74 desertflower
    January 31, 2017 at 7:52 am

    Ohhhhhh! Watch this one! A question from Jeff Sessions at her confirmation hearing….

  40. January 31, 2017 at 7:59 am

    Sorry about the double booking…this didn’t go where I expected it to go….

    Sessions: “I believe it’s perfectly constitutionally appropriate for us to tell the president of the United States: ‘We’re not going to confirm your deputy attorney general of the United States.'”

    What’s good for the goose……

  41. January 31, 2017 at 8:01 am

  42. January 31, 2017 at 8:02 am

    Unless Ivanka tells him so, he won’t…

  43. 78 desertflower
    January 31, 2017 at 8:05 am


     Trump’s executive order helps ISIL in another way. Muslim radicals such as ISIL have long sought to polarize the world between militant imperialist Westerners and militant Muslims, and have been frustrated by how few of the world’s 1.5 billion Muslims have been interested in joining their radical, violent struggle. They call the overlap between peoples with a Christian heritage and those with a Muslim one the “gray zone,” and brutal if ephemeral terrorist attacks like those launched in Paris and Brussels last year are intended to reduce the size of that zone. They are hoping to get Christians to set upon Muslims and drive the latter into the arms of the radicals. Trump just damaged the US alliance with ISIL’s enemies and handed ISIL a huge propaganda victory. So that is how his executive order on immigration affects national security.

    He is endangering the country that he pledged to protect. He is incompetent and dangerous. He made the entire WORLD a more dangerous place with these actions

  44. 79 sherijr
    January 31, 2017 at 8:07 am

    Good morning TOD. Thank you Nerdy for continuing to keep the doors open here, I am so grateful, pretty much on an hourly basis.

    As I mentioned over a week ago, we went to the women’s march in DC. I didn’t write about it immediately because I had migraines for the entire week after, unfortunately… and then of course careened along w/ the rest of the world through Trump’s insane cruelty.

    So, better late than never?

    My middle son, his girlfriend and I left a bit late that morning.. after 9 as I recall. We headed for the Greenbelt metro station.. got within about 3 miles of it and realized we’d never be able to park due to the congestion of traffic. Parked at the Target, called Uber. Our driver, as it happens was an Iranian man.. who’d been here only a year.(who I’ve thought a lot about this past week). With Uber we were able to go straight up to the metro station, rather than wait in traffic, and be dropped off. I cried when I saw the lines, they were phenomenal. People lined up packing the metro cars.
    My son’s gf is works at Metro.. and so we cheated a tad and walked right in. Our car was filled w/ people from: Australia, NM, NJ, MD, AZ, MN. Women mostly of course… but men too. In fact the first people I came across, was an elderly couple, the man in garb scottish including “skirt” and both wearing p*ssy hats- pink and homemade! We chatted all the way to DC. Disembarked at F St. & 7th St. and proceeded to “march” from there to the mall in front of the NAAMHC (the new AA museum) that took us approximately 5.5 hours. We mostly stood, we chanted, we chatted. People of every race, gender, age. Every single issue was represented. And not once and I mean NOT 1 time did I hear an angry word from any person. And we were packed in like sardines the entire time. It was literally beautiful in every way.

    A young woman latched on to us early on… dressed like “Super Girl” with a cat mask. Turned out she was a doctor at a University in Virginia. Which was a good thing as a woman near us fainted and in fact 3 doctors went to her within seconds. Lots of medical folks out there marching. We missed all of the speakers.. never heard any of them.. which mattered not a bit, as we had one another. As to numbers we were pretty sure there was closed to a million folks that day.. and the few police we saw echoed our numbers. As to police- they were very few and far between. They left us to our march, which was unexpected but appreciated by everyone.

    One funny highlight: At one point a couple of young men walked by us w/ a sign that had a quote on it, I didn’t catch the quote but saw the “name” on the quote: Cody Keenan. I yelled out: Hey, we like Cody Keenan… and the guy yells back “yeah he’s a cool dude isn’t he”. Of course, slow me took a few days to realize that was Cody :). Also at one point when we were at a stand still for quite sometime, through the crowd walks about a 6’6″ man.. turns his head and I realized it was the actor Vincent D’Onorfrio (sp). Brain damaged me hollers out: Hey I like your new show. yep, sure did.

    My son’s gf did a write up and posted facebook pics from the march, I don’t know how to post pictures here though. She commented at dinner that night- I never thought I’d see thousands of people, many of them white, chanting: Black Lives Matter. Which brings me to something I want to say here:

    With Sessions being confirmed, and I don’t doubt he will be… but even if he isn’t.. there will come a time when Trump/Bannon will go after the black community.. it’ll be Chicago, DC or even Baltimore. I want us to remember how people literally of every persuasion showed up and spoke up for the Women’s March, for the Muslim refugees… and we absolutely MUST do exactly the same for Black Lives Matter. I believe we will.

    All in all, it was a most amazing experience.. and I came close to tears many times throughout the day due to the spirit and goodness.. everyone remarked on the capacity of warmth, mutual respect and humanity that we had for one another. That is exactly what democracy looks like and we cannot ever stop fighting for it and protecting it. Also, thought of President Obama and remarked out loud- how proud he must be of the people of America for their (our) displays of citizenship that day. (and since0

    • 80 sherijr
      January 31, 2017 at 8:12 am

      please excuse my errors.. including “garb Scottish”… no, should be “Scottish garb” sorry.

    • 82 desertflower
      January 31, 2017 at 8:19 am

      Thanks for this, sherijr:) What an amazing and empowering day it must have been for you! For ALL of you! Seems like we’ll be doing a lot of this until we throw the bums out…democracy in action. It has no color, no ethnicity, no religion….just people fighting for justice and equality for all. It looks like all of us:)

      • 83 sherijr
        January 31, 2017 at 8:55 am

        Yes it really was df.. it was extremely unifying and put a lie to the idea/spin that we’re at war with one another. Interesting story from another protestor we met: there was a group of “pro-life” folks.. and some of “our” protestors encircled them, just to protect them, if needed. That, I’m starting to believe is who the Majority of us are.

    • January 31, 2017 at 8:55 am

      Thanks so much for writing up your inspiring experience. It was such an amazing day. Can’t believe you saw Cody Keenan!!

      I fear what comes next. But we’ll be ready to march again and again and again until this madness stops.

      • 85 sherijr
        January 31, 2017 at 9:06 am

        Ha! as to Cody… didn’t even know I’d seen him 😉 was thrilled to see his name on that quote!

        Yep Meta, I will be out there every time I can be. We cannot leave it up to others, we really have to be the ones we’re waiting for. I too fear the next agenda from this band of extremists- it will be bad, of that we can be sure. And I think it’s key to see it all as the bad that it is and never allow anyone to minimize it or make it “normal”. This agenda is geared to divide and conquer us. So far it’s unsuccessful.

  45. 86 desertflower
    January 31, 2017 at 8:07 am

    Morning MUST READ


    A president who plausibly owes his office at least in part to a clandestine intervention by a hostile foreign intelligence service? Who uses the bully pulpit to target individual critics? Who creates blind trusts that are not blind, invites his children to commingle private and public business, and somehow gets the unhappy members of his own political party either to endorse his choices or shrug them off? If this were happening in Honduras, we’d know what to call it. It’s happening here instead, and so we are baffled.

  46. 87 desertflower
    January 31, 2017 at 8:10 am


    [F]our sitting members of Congress from the D.C. suburbs went to the Dulles airport to demand that airport cops grant access to the people being detained, in keeping with the court order. But the airport authority’s deputy police chief refused.

    Here’s what this means: Donald Trump’s executive branch is defying the judiciary, even with the personal, in-person assistance of national legislators. He is attempting, in part at least, to overturn constitutional government in the United States.

    This is not an exaggeration. In a republic, a professional legal corps gets to interpret the law as written by the elected representatives of the people, and the agents of state violence must obey their commands. In a tyranny, the leader does whatever he wants. That is what Trump, with the close counsel of his advisers Stephen Bannon and Stephen Miller, is trying to create.

  47. January 31, 2017 at 8:11 am

    There’s sooooooooo many things that he can be questioned about. *I* might even try to watch THIS confirmation hearing (assuming DJT doesn’t withdraw the appointment).

    If this is what will help get rid of Bannon, then by all means; proceed Donald!!!

    When Donald Trump decided that fake-news publisher and alt-right nazi Steve Bannon would be his White House Chief Strategist, he presumably chose that role so that the overwhelmingly controversial Bannon wouldn’t have to go through Senate confirmation hearings, which would have been a firestorm for the ages. But now that Trump has subsequently also picked Bannon for the National Security Council, it turns out he’ll be unwittingly feeding Bannon to the Senate wolves after all.

    According to section (a)(6) of federal statute 50 U.S. Code 3021, a civilian like Steve Bannon will in fact need to go through Senate confirmation and approval in order to serve on the National Security Council because he doesn’t fit into any of the five listed pre-approved categories…This sets up a remarkable showdown if Trump goes ahead with the Bannon pick, because few in either party have shown any affinity or trust for the guy – and they’ll have limitless material for embarrassing him.

  48. January 31, 2017 at 8:21 am

    #theshinyobject hides the real story. Who is he going to nominate to take other rights away that we hold sacred.

  49. 90 desertflower
    January 31, 2017 at 8:21 am



    The most striking thing about President Trump’s first 10 days in office is that the ardent nationalist who pledged to put “America first” is emerging as the least American president of the United States.
    By least American, I mean least connected to the larger democratic values that define the country.
    Our national identity is unique in the world because it’s based not on race, religion, or country of origin, but on ideals that transcend party.

    Such ideals are at odds with a president who lies promiscuously, destabilizes the government with impulsive, discriminatory, and inhumane policies backed up with jarring firings, and cannot allow his White House to apologize or admir error under any circumstances, even for neglecting to mention Jews in a Holocaust commemoration. Those are the telltale signs of a foreign dictator, not an American leader.

  50. 93 desertflower
    January 31, 2017 at 8:48 am

    Any questions on who has influence?

    • 95 sherijr
      January 31, 2017 at 9:02 am

      and along those lines, especially considering his love of nuclear weapons… he (trump) tweeted this 2 days ago:

      Christians in the Middle-East have been executed in large numbers. We cannot allow this horror to continue!

      He/Bannon have telegraphed their wish to take oil/treasure from the middle east.. and a “religious” war is right up their alley.

  51. 96 RosesForObama
    January 31, 2017 at 8:58 am

    Nerdy, Chips et al. how You also deserve the most beautiful bouquet 🌷🌷🌷🌷🌷🌷🌷🌷🌷🌷🌷🌷 for this sane, informative place, a totally integrated part of my life for the past more than eight years – a wonderful tour – all because of President Obama. Somebody, I am sorry, because I cannot make the correct reference, wrote about Prince ” a level above genius”, it can certainly be applied to President Obama as well.
    So JER this wonderful, wonderful photo of President Obama and kids just made my day.
    Please in 2018 erase all the politicians in Congress, who had the nerve to vote against President Obama, from the political landscape.
    I am so glad TOD will continue to exist, it is needed now more than ever, in these scary times not only for America, but for the whole world.

  52. January 31, 2017 at 8:58 am

    • 98 desertflower
      January 31, 2017 at 9:05 am

      Correct. Which is why I think the cry of Bannon needing to be confirmed by the Senate is laughable. They don’t give a shit about rules of law.

      • 99 Believe Again
        January 31, 2017 at 12:51 pm

        Indeed! Nothing you expect will come from this administration because they do not recognize, respect or care about the law or the constitution. They just do not care as long as it is not causing them personal discomfort or pain, they do not care.

  53. 100 JER
    January 31, 2017 at 8:58 am

  54. January 31, 2017 at 9:00 am

    The heartless cruelty of all this is overwhelming.

  55. January 31, 2017 at 9:03 am

    This is the Judiciary Committee vote:

  56. 103 desertflower
    January 31, 2017 at 9:07 am

  57. 104 JER
    January 31, 2017 at 9:08 am

  58. 106 desertflower
    January 31, 2017 at 9:11 am

  59. 107 JER
    January 31, 2017 at 9:12 am

  60. January 31, 2017 at 9:22 am


    What the phuck kind of illogic is this?

    Democrats consider backing off big battle over Trump’s Supreme Court pick
    CNN Digital Expansion DC Manu RajuTed Barrett-Profile-Image
    By Manu Raju and Ted Barrett, CNN
    Updated 8:28 PM ET, Mon January 30, 2017

    Washington (CNN)Senate Democrats are weighing whether to avoid an all-out war to block President Donald Trump’s upcoming Supreme Court pick, instead considering delaying that battle for a future nomination that could shift the ideological balance of the court, sources say.

    Democrats privately discussed their tactics during a closed-door retreat in West Virginia last week. And a number of Democrats are trying to persuade liberal firebrands to essentially let Republicans confirm Trump’s pick after a vigorous confirmation process — since Trump is likely to name a conservative to replace the late conservative Justice Antonin Scalia.

    The reason for the tactic: Republicans are considering gutting the filibuster for Supreme Court nominees if Democrats stay largely united and block Trump’s first pick. By employing the so-called “nuclear option,” Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell could move to reduce the threshold for clearing a filibuster from 60 votes to 51 votes.
    That would mean Democrats could lose leverage in the next Supreme Court fight if Trump were to replace a more liberal justice, since the GOP now has 52 seats in the Senate.

    • 113 desertflower
      January 31, 2017 at 9:45 am

      Whoever does this, or even THINKS this is a good idea…needs to go. We lay down for nothing and no one….WE ARE WATCHING

    • 114 Obama Grandmama
      January 31, 2017 at 12:19 pm

      The Dems trust that if they go along with the GOP pick the GOP will play fair next time and let them filibuster? Wow! Are they in La La Land? I listened to my Senator Jeff Merkley on NPR this morning saying he would not vote for their pick unless it was Merrick Garland, PBO’s pick. That it would be setting a precedent and legitimizing their not fulfilling their duty by hearing and voting on PBO’s pick.

  61. 115 JER
    January 31, 2017 at 9:22 am

  62. January 31, 2017 at 9:26 am

    Trump’s Next Immigration Move to Hit Closer to Home for Tech
    by Peter Elstrom and Saritha Rai
    January 30, 2017, 12:57 AM CST January 31, 2017, 1:11 AM CST

    President Donald Trump’s clash with Silicon Valley over immigration is about to become even more contentious.

    After the new president banned refugees and travelers from seven predominantly Muslim countries, Google, Facebook, Salesforce, Microsoft and others railed against the move, saying it violated the country’s principles and risked disrupting its engine of innovation. Trump’s next steps could strike even closer to home: His administration has drafted an executive order aimed at overhauling the work-visa programs technology companies depend on to hire tens of thousands of employees each year.

    If implemented, the reforms could shift the way American companies like Microsoft Corp., Amazon.com Inc. and Apple Inc. recruit talent and force wholesale changes at Indian companies such as Infosys Ltd. and Wipro Ltd. Businesses would have to try to hire American first and if they recruit foreign workers, priority would be given to the most highly paid.

    “Our country’s immigration policies should be designed and implemented to serve, first and foremost, the U.S. national interest,” the draft proposal reads, according to a copy reviewed by Bloomberg. “Visa programs for foreign workers … should be administered in a manner that protects the civil rights of American workers and current lawful residents, and that prioritizes the protection of American workers — our forgotten working people — and the jobs they hold.”

  63. January 31, 2017 at 9:28 am

    The Death of Pragmatism
    by Nancy LeTourneau
    January 30, 2017 3:38 PM

    One of the things that has been pretty obvious for a while now is that Donald Trump and Barack Obama are polar opposites – and that applies to their personalities even more than it does their policies. Over the eight years of Obama’s presidency, one of the things that concerned some people on the left was his commitment to pragmatism – especially when it was not ideologically infused. No one captured that better than James Kloppenberg in his book, Reading Obama, where he describes Obama as a pragmatist in the mold of William James and John Dewey.

    That pragmatism was on display with the two pieces of advice Obama had for Trump.

    Two basic pieces of advice Obama gave Trump:

    1. Put in place a process that’s respectful of law.

    2. Reality has a way of asserting itself.

    — Brian Beutler (@brianbeutler) January 30, 2017

    On the other side of the continuum, we have Trump. Here’s what Harold Pollack wrote about the president’s latest executive order on immigrants and refugees:

    The President’s team had months to prepare this signature immigration initiative. And they produced…an amateurish, politically self-immolating effort that humiliated the country, provoked international retaliation, and failed to withstand the obvious federal court challenge on its very first day.

    Given the despicable nature of this effort, I’m happy it has become a political fiasco. It also makes me wonder how the Trump administration will execute the basic functions of government. This astonishing failure reflects our new President’s contempt for the basic craft of government.

    In a must-read piece on the same topic, Benjamin Wittes writes that Trump’s order is malevolence tempered by incompetence. On the latter he says:

    How incompetent is this order? An immigration lawyer who works for the federal government wrote me today describing the quality of the work as “look[ing] like what an intern came up with over a lunch hour. . . . My take is that it is so poorly written that it’s hard to tell the impact.” One of the reasons there’s so much chaos going on right now, in fact, is that nobody really knows what the order means on important points.

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  65. January 31, 2017 at 9:34 am

  66. 120 57andfemale
    January 31, 2017 at 9:36 am

  67. 121 whenpamelawandered
    January 31, 2017 at 9:40 am

    “To my conservative family and friends: You have been given a gift. The gift is this: Your guy won, your team has the House and the Senate. And it’s going… not great. My charge to you is this: figure out how you want to be represented in history. You are on the cusp of being the party that rose up and fought for what you told us you stood for, or you can be the people we have to explain to our children when they ask why no one fought the breakdown of our democracy.

    If you voted for the president or a Republican senator because you believe in fiscal conservatism, you should be furious that your tax dollars are going to build a wall that will have zero impact on the effects of immigration.

    If you hate the left because of “Political Correctness,” you need to be asking yourself if you’re okay with the President censoring communications from MULTIPLE government organizations like the National Park Service, the EPA and more.

    If you voted because you hated Secretary Clinton’s email server, I expect you to be calling your representatives to ask why Steve Bannon and others continue to use their unsecured personal emails and why your president is using an unsecured Android device still.

    If you voted because you believed there would be better protection against terrorists, you need to ask yourself why it’s okay that your president just took away $130 million in anti-terror funds from New York with his punishment of Sanctuary Cities.

    If you are angry that your insurance is too expensive, you should ask why your senators are repealing ACA without a replacement, an action that will leave 20 million people without insurance at all.

    If you believe the Clinton initiative provided unequal treatment to countries that supported their foundation, you should be livid that your president has moved to block visas from Muslim countries like Syria, Iraq, Iran, Libya, Somalia, Sudan and Yemen, but not places where he has business ties like Egypt, Qatar, Turkey, United Arab Emirates and Saudi Arabia.

    This is an opportunity to prove that you voted for the reasons you say you did. I am taking you seriously; I am taking you literally.”

    -Levi Frerichs

    Please copy and paste and repost.

  68. January 31, 2017 at 10:12 am

  69. 127 donna dem 4 obama
    January 31, 2017 at 10:26 am

    Good Morning TOD

  70. January 31, 2017 at 10:29 am

    How Trump Will Roll Back Obama’s Progress on Gay Rights
    The new administration poses a serious threat to LGBT people.

    by Alison Gash
    January 31, 2017


    Trump’s Threats
    Gay, lesbian and transgender individuals and families stand to lose significant ground under Trump.

    The decision upholding the right to marriage for gay and lesbian couples is not in any immediate danger of being overturned, so long as the five justices who voted to overturn state bans on same-sex marriage remain on the Court. Any justice that the Senate confirms to replace Antonin Scalia will not change the 5-4 split in favor of marriage equality. If one of the five justices in the majority vacates his or her seat during Trump’s presidency, there would be room to reverse the decision, but the Court would need to be presented with a new case involving a new set of facts (for example a new state law barring marriage equality, a state regulation limiting access to marriage licenses). These avenues, although by no means impossible to traverse, are more difficult.

    Where opponents could make significant gains, however, is in limiting access to marriage services or benefits. For example, if Trump’s Congress successfully repeals the Affordable Care Act, which prohibits LGBTQ discrimination, insurance companies could discriminate against individuals on the basis of their sexual orientation—placing gay or lesbian spouses at risk of losing coverage.

    Trump has also stated that, if brought to his desk, he will sign the First Amendment Defense Act (FADA)—federal legislation that would bar all federal officials from punishing an individual or entity that acts on their “religious or moral belief” that marriage “is or should be recognized as the union of one man and one woman.” A federal district court overturned a similar law passed in Mississippi. It is now on appeal. If the law is upheld (and if Congress delivers similar legislation), vital records clerks, bakeries, hotels, restaurants—or any service provider—may have legal coverage to refuse to work with gay or lesbian couples—despite the ruling in Obergefell.

    Trump’s pledge to remove all Obama-era executive orders could also mean the reversal of protections against discrimination in housing and employment. This would likely be accompanied by a disinvestment of resources examining LGBTQ-based housing discrimination, and alterations to the EEOC’s interpretation of federal employment protections, which could limit the potential for courts to address workplace bias against gay or transgender workers.

    Even if the EEOC changes course, some federal judges may decide to continue following existing precedent that protects gay and transgender workers. However, this precedent is far from stable. For example, a three-judge panel of the Seventh Circuit Court of Appeals denied a lesbian professor’s claim of discrimination when her community college decided not to renew her contract. The court found that federal laws do not cover sexual orientation discrimination. On appeal, gay rights advocates received a full panel 7th Circuit hearing and are awaiting the decision.

  71. January 31, 2017 at 10:32 am

    Bannon’s Contempt For Congressional Republicans On Display
    by Nancy LeTourneau
    January 31, 2017 10:07 AM


    That is the context in which to understand much of what happened in the lead-up to Trump’s announcement of the executive order on immigrants and refugees. It is especially telling when considering what was reported last night by Politico.

    Senior staffers on the House Judiciary Committee helped Donald Trump’s top aides draft the executive order curbing immigration from seven Muslim-majority nations, but the Republican committee chairman and party leadership were not informed, according to multiple sources involved in the process…

    The work of the committee aides began during the transition period after the election and before Donald Trump was sworn in. The staffers signed nondisclosure agreements, according to two sources familiar with the matter.

    Not only was the Republican committee chairman, Bob Goodlatte (R-Va.) not informed about the development of the executive order, his staff was recruited to work on it in secret and required to sign nondisclosure agreements about their work.

    It is important to keep in mind that Rep. Goodlatte is not some squishy centrist when it comes to immigration. He has received a 100% rating from FAIR, the extremist anti-immigrant advocacy group, and has spoken out in opposition to birthright citizenship. But this is the guy the Trump administration wanted to keep in the dark about their executive order.

  72. 130 Allison
    January 31, 2017 at 10:42 am

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  75. January 31, 2017 at 10:56 am

    bbl ….

  76. 136 sherijr
    January 31, 2017 at 11:02 am

    alright, couldn’t watch anymore of the Sessions hearing. Sickened by the repub BS, especially Graham, slimeball. But Durbin annoyed me too. A whole mess of old white men deciding what/who’s racist for the entire country. So very wrong.

  77. 137 No Child Left Behind
    January 31, 2017 at 11:14 am

    Good Morning TODVille.

    Dems should boycott EVERTHING.

    In a surprise turn of events, Senate Democrats announced that they are boycotting a committee vote on two of President Donald Trump’s Cabinet nominees, drawing fury from Republicans.
    The Senate Finance Committee was set to vote on the nominations of Rep. Tom Price to lead the Department of Health and Human Services and Steve Mnuchin for Treasury secretary.
    Trump began his 11th day in office shrouded in crisis, criticized for a chaotic unveiling of immigration measures and under new scrutiny after he fired the nation’s top law enforcement officer who refused to enforce them.
    Trump is scheduled to unveil his Supreme Court nominee at 8 p.m. ET. Watch CNN for full coverage of that, and a town hall with Rep. Nancy Pelosi at 9 p.m. ET.
    In a column for CNN, Pelosi criticized Republican efforts to repeal Obamacare, writing that it would “lead to death, disability and suffering.”

  78. January 31, 2017 at 11:18 am

    I just want to leave this here.

  79. January 31, 2017 at 11:40 am

    We are in uncharted waters.

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