177 Responses to “Go Make Your Voices Heard”

  1. November 7, 2016 at 10:47 pm

    Thank you Nerdy❤️

  2. 4 FoxfireTX
    November 7, 2016 at 10:49 pm

  3. 5 Ladyhawke
    November 7, 2016 at 10:50 pm

    • 6 COS
      November 7, 2016 at 10:53 pm

      I believe Clinton received a lot of advice from PBO.

      • 7 FoxfireTX
        November 7, 2016 at 10:58 pm

        Yup, he mentioned a few months back that he calls her to give her a pep talk when she was going through a rough patch. I am confident he will help her through her presidency as well, to the extent she wants it. But he will try to stay out of her way. He’s also commented how much he appreciated that W stayed out of sight and didn’t criticize him particularly through the financial crisis.

  4. 9 FoxfireTX
    November 7, 2016 at 10:55 pm

    You will recall that Professor Tribe had both Michelle and PBO in his classes at Harvard Law.

  5. 11 jacquelineoboomer
    November 7, 2016 at 11:02 pm

    Don’t forget voting starts at Dixville Notch!

    • 12 COS
      November 7, 2016 at 11:06 pm

      OMG, Jacqueline, I had forgotten about Dixville Notch. I hope we get positive news tonight.

      • 13 jacquelineoboomer
        November 7, 2016 at 11:29 pm

        I’d forgotten this year, too, until I just happened to hear it on MSNBC. Watch that every time, and wouldn’t want to miss it!!! See you there.

  6. 14 FoxfireTX
    November 7, 2016 at 11:10 pm

    Of course, Mark Knoller again tonight is on his roll of POTUS using the official seal, particularly when it was on the podium for Hillary’s speech. It made me wonder, given that he didn’t use it at first, if this is POTUS with NFLTG and sticking it in Trump’s face after all the attempts to delegitimize President Obama. Frankly, if Hillary was running against a normal GOP opponent, I suspect he may not be using the seal at these events. Dunno, just a thought.

    • November 7, 2016 at 11:32 pm

      Oh yes, that was NFLTG Shade…

    • 16 jacquelineoboomer
      November 7, 2016 at 11:32 pm

      I think it’s traditional that he use the seal each time he speaks in public … I’ve seen them attach it to numerous podiums. (Podia? But I digress.) Not sure, but I like your idea about sticking it in Trump’s face better!

      • November 7, 2016 at 11:35 pm

        He didn’t use it for 2012 campaign events.

        • 18 jacquelineoboomer
          November 7, 2016 at 11:36 pm

          Good eye!

        • 19 99ts
          November 7, 2016 at 11:56 pm

          Then he was campaigning for himself. Now he is the President campaigning for someone else

          • 20 Obama Grandmama
            November 8, 2016 at 12:28 am

            That is what I think too, 99ts. When as President and is running for another term he does not use it, but as President speaking for another he can get away with it. Because it is the first time, at least in a very long time, if not forever that a sitting President is campaigning for his party. In the past recent years the candidate has not wanted their party President to campaign for them.

            • 21 99ts
              November 8, 2016 at 1:10 am

              You have me thinking – and I cannot remember the last time an outgoing President was a major campaigner for his party – other than for himself (won’t be able to use the he/him to describe all Presidents after tomorrow).
              Seems Truman & Eisenhower didn’t get along, Not Eisenhower, not Johnson, Not Reagan, not Clinton, not Bush II. I have little knowledge of Presidents prior to FDR so you will have to help me out.

  7. 22 FoxfireTX
    November 7, 2016 at 11:13 pm

    Did anyone catch what Hillary said on her campaign plane tonight? I saw something running by somewhere that she just wants to put the FBI thing behind her and do what’s best for the country, But it just flashed and I didn’t see the exact wording. That sounds a whole lot like PBO’s words.

  8. November 7, 2016 at 11:18 pm

    I had a bit of a sad today. I had planned to get up early and drive about an hour to see President Obama speak. I had only seen him once before in the 2008 campaign when he came to Detroit on Labor Day and spoke for a few minutes. Every other time he’s come I’ve either been working or it’s been in a closed venue such as a factory. I got up early but one thing and another delayed me, but I finally got under weigh. I hadn’t got far when I got a phone call from a friend. She had been admitted yesterday with blood clots on her lungs. I had planned to go visit her this afternoon. She was panicked because she was worried they were moving her out of ICU and she wasn’t ready. She was also having a panic attack because a neighbor who constantly harasses her at her house works for the hospital and Peggy thought she heard this woman talking to the other nurses. So I turned my car around and said goodbye to my last chance of seeing our dear president. However I was happy to go help Peggy. She doesn’t really have any family who can help and her son (in his late 30’s) has many issues-seizure disorder, diabetes, schizophrenia to name a few. He live with her and she was also worried about him. When I got there I was able to listen and she calmed down. She hadn’t voted yet so I was able to pick up an application for an emergency absentee ballot, take the ballot to her ad then turn it in. Her son was also eager to vote and I promised to get him to the polls tomorrow. I didn’t get to see the president and wasn’t able to canvas in the afternoon as I had planned, but at least I helped get those two votes for the Democrats! If you have prayers or well wishes to spare, Peggy could really use them. While in the hospital they also discovered a mass in her breast and she will have a mammogram tomorrow. She is such a good and decent person and her life has been one long struggle.

    • 24 Judith Fardig
      November 7, 2016 at 11:24 pm

      Your friend needed you. What a wonderful person you are to take care of her like this!

    • 25 globalcitizenlinda
      November 7, 2016 at 11:34 pm

      wishes of a fast recovery for your friend and an improvement in life for her son.

      thanks a lot for helping them out.

      very sorry you missed seeing PBO. it is always special when you get to meet him and FLOTUS in person. hoping that you will do so one of these days … you never know

    • November 7, 2016 at 11:34 pm

      Mary, your friend, is our friend — surrounded by the light, love and prayers of our TOD Family!

    • 27 jacquelineoboomer
      November 7, 2016 at 11:35 pm

      The very definition of friendship, maryl1, on your part, and I commend you so much. Of course we will pray for them both. The rest of us don’t know how lucky we have it at times, but this is sure a reminder!

    • 28 99ts
      November 8, 2016 at 12:00 am

      Blessings Mary. The President will still be around after he leaves the WH. There will be more chances – your loyalty to your friend is wonderful.

    • 29 Bill R.
      November 8, 2016 at 12:04 am

      Will remember your friend in prayers.

    • November 8, 2016 at 12:11 am

      Will keep your friend Peggy in my thoughts and want you to know how much I admire what you did for her and your Country, today, {{{{{Mary}}}}}!!

      Thank you

    • 32 MadameSoph
      November 8, 2016 at 1:29 am

      Oh maryl1, I can feel your disappointment at missing PBO! I’ve never seen him in person either. If I had gotten that call from a friend, I would have done the same, been happy at helping my friend, known it was the right decision, yet still had wistful regrets.

      If PBO were aware of your situation, you KNOW he would have told you, “Go on now, go help your friend! I’m not going anywhere. I’m just going to be making a difference as a citizen, instead of as a president. In my speech today, I would have told you to vote and to help folks around you vote too. That’s exactly what you did!”

      You WILL meet PBO one day! And you can tell him about what you did today, and it will be ten times as awesome as going to the rally!

      I helped a friend vote recently who just celebrated one year since having a lumpectomy and staying cancer-free since!

      Your friend is in my prayers. I hope that mass turns out to be benign, but, if not, I will pray for her to be like tha many women I know who are surviving and thriving after recovering from a scary diagnoisis.


    • November 8, 2016 at 7:00 am

      Wow, Mary, what an astonishing friend you are. You did the right thing for their welfare. And you remind us how important sincere friendship is.

      I hope someday you’ll still be able to see PBO. He will lift your spirits forever!!

      Hope your day goes well. And very best wishes for your friend and her son.

    • 34 Dudette
      November 8, 2016 at 9:16 am

      You are a true friend. Hoping your friend gets the very best care and is soon on her way to a speedy recovery.

  9. 35 jacquelineoboomer
    November 7, 2016 at 11:26 pm

    It kinda gives you chills.

  10. November 7, 2016 at 11:36 pm

    Wasn’t home tonight to watch the Philly event. I had three tickets for Stephanie Miller’s Sexy Liberal movie. In this red area, two neighbor’s in my cup-de-sac are liberal Dems. 😄👏😍. So the three of us went together. It was so fun!

    Now, I’m going to last thread and watch the event. I’ve seen clips. Looking forward.

  11. 38 globalcitizenlinda
    November 7, 2016 at 11:37 pm

    I can see my self doing what the couple in this article have done for 18 months outside the White House.


    I suspect I may not be the only one on TOD saying: why didn’t I think of this myself.



  12. November 7, 2016 at 11:47 pm

    Fact ….

    Goodnight TOD …. you will hopefully remember tonight as the excruciatingly tense hours before WE SAVED our Republic and humanity ….

    • 41 Niliathiel
      November 8, 2016 at 2:38 am

      With the difference, of course, that Hitler was not elected but appointed by then president Hindenburg. Constitutionally, the president was elected directly by the people but the chancellor was appointed by the president. Hitler was merely chancellor (who however cleverly deconstructed the system in his favour in the months to follow) but to be fair, around January 30th Hitler and his looneys were pressuring Hindenburg into announcing him because Hitler had noticed that 1/3 of the vote from the German population was not enough to propell him into a legitimate position to claim the chancellory or the presidency. In fact, on January 30, the Nazi pary was already in decline. Things would have been different had we had a president back then who had not fundamentally opposed the democratic system established in 1919.
      [/history teacher smartassing 🙂 ]

      However, I do get your point

      • November 8, 2016 at 8:13 am

        I know the history well but appreciate your summarizing it. The point is — you don’t VOTE you have no excuses for the horror that ensues …


      • 43 arapaho415
        November 8, 2016 at 9:18 am

        GA Niliathiel.

        Good responses yesterday to your question about watching election returns.

        Haven’t checked out this article yet, but may provide some helpful insight — it’s by Harry Enten, not by the dubiously-motivated Nate Silver:

        • November 8, 2016 at 9:45 am

          I saw, and thanks to everyone being kind enough to reply 🙂 I will get up a few minutes before 8 pm eastern which is 2 am my time. Long night for me but oh well.

          • 45 MadameSoph
            November 8, 2016 at 10:01 am

            Thanks for the history lesson niliathiel! I just casually told a friend yesterday in reference to DT, “Hitler was elected, you know” !!! I don’t know why I had come to think that. I surely knew the history at one time. I think I had that false notion in my head from reading other people’s commentary on would-be dictators – probably during the Dick Cheney years 🙂 Cheney could represent a highlight of the similarities to this election in that we will know who stood on the side of decency and who would easily hand over our democracy to a would-be dictator. The Bush family, (most, anyway) refused to support DT. Cheney had no problem saying he would vote for him.

            Thank you for stopping me from repeating a historical innacuracy niliathiel!

            • November 8, 2016 at 10:27 am

              Don´t worry at all 🙂 It´s something people outside Germany often don´t know and I don´t blame them. It´s a detail of constitutional history and i wouldn´t expect everyone to know the intricacies of the 1919 German constitution 🙂

  13. 47 jacquelineoboomer
    November 8, 2016 at 12:10 am

    From Dixville Notch: Clinton – 4; Trump – 2; Johnson – 1; Stein – 0

  14. November 8, 2016 at 12:31 am

    Decided to use my rain stick instrument as a walking stick tomorrow. Will attach tags with the names of the ancestors, so that they accompany me to vote tomorrow…

    • 56 susanne
      November 8, 2016 at 12:36 am

      Love this, jazziz! I think there will be many of us representing our ancestors tomorrow, whether from our bloodline or from our tradition of belief. Women in pantsuits! People wearing white for Susan B.! Men in HRC tee shirts! I’ll be working at the poll, so must avoid political speech in my attire, but I will carry this mental picture of you, with your rain stick and ancestors, marching in to vote ❤

      • 57 Betsy
        November 8, 2016 at 9:00 am

        I’m wearing white; My son just reported in Harlem there are long lines: “Line is LONG in Harlem. Huge millennial & African American & Latino turn out!”. He also said he’s very inspired.

    • 58 MadameSoph
      November 8, 2016 at 1:30 am

      I love this idea jazziz2!

    • 59 arapaho415
      November 8, 2016 at 7:22 am

      GM Alycee.

      What an inspired idea!

      Love this so much, best way to honor your family, yourself, and the USA.

      Best idea of heard during this combative election.

    • 60 arapaho415
      November 8, 2016 at 9:37 am

      What an inspiration you are, Alycee!

      (My Twitter problem resolved itself overnight, so thankfully can now tweet, yay!)

      Here’s to you and your forebears, and all others who were deprived the right to vote:

      In response to:

  15. November 8, 2016 at 12:40 am

  16. November 8, 2016 at 12:47 am

  17. 69 vcprezofan2
    November 8, 2016 at 1:02 am

    G’night, y’all. I’m a-goin’ to sleep now. Happy Tuesday, Amk! Looking forward to seeing you later tonight when the results are coming in.

    • 70 99ts
      November 8, 2016 at 1:15 am

      gnite vc – dream big dreams 🙂

      • 71 vcprezofan2
        November 8, 2016 at 2:35 am

        😀 😀 Thanks, TS, though I’m not dreaming yet. I was reading for a bit while I waited for my laptop to update itself. NOW I’m going to turn it off. Catch you later today.

  18. 72 No Child Left Behind
    November 8, 2016 at 1:34 am

  19. 73 No Child Left Behind
    November 8, 2016 at 1:39 am

  20. 74 MadameSoph
    November 8, 2016 at 1:59 am

    Attention TOD meditators:

    My cousin just sent me ahead’s up about this.

    A group called “The Sitting Project” is organizing Meditation Flash Mobs at polling stations around the country. The idea is to elevate the vote, the collective consciousness and heal the electorate after this divisive election. The mass meditation will be at 6pm eastern, 3pm pacific time. You can organize or find one at a nearby polling place, or meditate/pray from home.


    A short explanation:

    Here is one from Times Square

  21. November 8, 2016 at 3:55 am

  22. 77 sherijr
    November 8, 2016 at 6:34 am

    Off to go cast my vote for the first woman President 🙂 Luckily my polling spot is just 4 blocks away. Kind of excited 🙂 Sooo glad this election is almost over!

    Good morning TOD & a very happy Election Day to all of you!

    • 78 99ts
      November 8, 2016 at 7:04 am

      gm sherijr – e1 seems to be voting early this am. Enjoy

      • 79 sherijr
        November 8, 2016 at 8:10 am

        Good morning 99 :). Yep I couldn’t wait any longer.. hopeful the sooner I voted the sooner it would be over, guess I’ll have to wait for everyone else in the country to get it done 😉

        I had to throw away my first ballot as I voted for one more judge than actually existed.. oops. Lots of folks there bright and early, short line, but busy enough for our little precinct. Poll workers said it had been steady since opening, yay! May or may not be good, as this is South Baltimore which unfortunately has it’s share of actual Natzi’s.. yep I have seen them. Only dark moment, was the man standing next to me, who stated: This is the most corrupt election since 18?? (didn’t catch the last two digits) and the woman he was talking to agreed with him. Knew they had to be Trumpsters.

        On a happier note, as I was walking out, a woman was walking in all dressed in white, told her she looked marvelous :). Found myself tearing up as I got in my car, surprised myself.

        It’s gonna be an amazing day in America.

    • 82 arapaho415
      November 8, 2016 at 7:50 am

      GM Sherijr.

      Susan B. Anthony’s gravesite is in Rochester, NY. Sadly, she died 14 years before the 19th Amendment was ratified.

      It will be open until 9 pm tonight.

  23. 83 Roberta in MN
    November 8, 2016 at 7:37 am

    Good Morning everyone. I will be getting ready to go to the polls and taking a neighbor with me (a Dem). See you all later. (Alycee) please take it easy today. God Bless this place. Chips can you come home and give us your thought today? Love and miss you.

  24. November 8, 2016 at 7:37 am

  25. November 8, 2016 at 7:44 am

    Good morning, good people. It’s Election Day!!!! OMG, what a long haul it’s been.

    The Bear may be loose this morning. Maybe grab breakfast, chat with some people on the street and urge them to VOTE!!

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  29. November 8, 2016 at 7:52 am

    Good morning TOD folks! Wishing all my family and friends in the US a happy voting/make history day again!

  30. 90 desertflower
    November 8, 2016 at 8:00 am

    Good Election Day Tuesday! If you haven’t already, get out and vote today. Whatever it takes to have your voice heard! I’m hopeful, but anxious just the same. Can not WAIT until this mess is over!!!! Love you guys:) You keep me sane.(er)

  31. November 8, 2016 at 8:03 am

    Be encouraged:

  32. November 8, 2016 at 8:07 am


  33. 94 desertflower
    November 8, 2016 at 8:07 am

    Awful. Made me think of amk and wonder about him once again. I know that he doesn’t live in Delhi, but still. Very bad.


    NEW DELHI — For days, many in Delhi have been living as if under siege, trying to keep the dirty air away from their children and older parents.

    But it is not easy: Open a window or a door, and the haze enters the room within seconds. Outside, the sky is white, the sun a white circle so pale that you can barely make it out. The smog is acrid, eye-stinging and throat-burning, and so thick that it is being blamed for a 70-vehicle pileup north of the city.

    If in past years Delhi’s roughly 20 million residents shrugged off wintertime pollution as fog, over the past week they viewed it as a crisis. Schools have been ordered closed for three days — an unprecedented measure, but not a reassuring one because experts say the concentration of pollutants inside Indian homes is typically not much lower than outside.

    Levels of the most dangerous particles, called PM 2.5, reached 700 micrograms per cubic meter on Monday, and over the weekend they soared in some places to 1,000, or more than 16 times the limit India’s government considers safe. The damage from sustained exposure to such high concentrations of PM 2.5 is equivalent to smoking more than two packs of cigarettes a day, experts say.

  34. November 8, 2016 at 8:13 am

  35. 100 desertflower
    November 8, 2016 at 8:18 am

    Just DO This.

  36. November 8, 2016 at 8:18 am

    Good morning TOD!

    I think this is a fitting way to begin the day ….



  37. 107 pkayden
    November 8, 2016 at 8:18 am

    Go Hillary!!! Go all the way to the White House. Proud to have voted for you.

    • 108 No Child Left Behind
      November 8, 2016 at 8:29 am

      So am I.

      I voted at 6h45am, dressed in white for the decisive victory. The Orange man must stay in his golden towers, far from Washington DC.

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  40. November 8, 2016 at 8:25 am

    Today we make history and continue the Obama legacy of healing progress in our world by electing the first woman president, Hillary Clinton.

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  46. 118 desertflower
    November 8, 2016 at 8:38 am

    You don’t say….

  47. 122 JER
    November 8, 2016 at 8:40 am

    Good Morning Everybody.

  48. 124 desertflower
    November 8, 2016 at 8:46 am

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  53. November 8, 2016 at 8:58 am

    A good read by Steve Schale who has been the big early vote specialist in FL. He’s confident of Clinton victory and has the numbers to support it.

    • 130 CEB
      November 8, 2016 at 9:35 am

      Thanks for this find, Bill R. As most of you know, I live in Fla. where the “shibacle” is front and center and I have found Steve’s work a great help in keeping my blood pressure, at least managed, since EV began 10/24/2016. I am cautiously confident and this summary is helping to ease the knot in my stomach. I live in Duval County and I would be a dream come true if it could join the other major counties in turning Blue for HRC.

      • 131 Bill R.
        November 8, 2016 at 9:53 am

        CEB Key from this piece here:

  54. November 8, 2016 at 9:08 am

    Thank you for your lovely comments. Peggy and I appreciate your prayers and uplifting thoughts. I know (hope) I will have other chances to see President Obama. And I know I didn’t do anything more than anyone would have done. It’s so good to know we can always turn to each other in times of need.

  55. 135 57andfemale
    November 8, 2016 at 9:10 am

  56. 136 donna dem 4 obama
    November 8, 2016 at 9:39 am

  57. November 8, 2016 at 9:44 am

  58. 141 desertflower
    November 8, 2016 at 9:46 am

    Please be over soon. Please be over soon. Please be over soon….. and someone needs to pay a visit to this guy. ILLEGAL!


  59. November 8, 2016 at 9:47 am

    Trump is talking like the loser he is.

  60. 145 donna dem 4 obama
    November 8, 2016 at 9:53 am

    November 8, 2016 at 9:58 am


  62. 152 Dudette
    November 8, 2016 at 10:04 am

    A good morning bedtime story! 😄

    • 153 MadameSoph
      November 8, 2016 at 10:06 am

      Hi Dudette,

      Did you see the Button Gwinnett YouTube from the Late Show that I left you yesterday? I saw your post on the great turnout there 🙂

      • 154 Dudette
        November 8, 2016 at 10:29 am

        Hi MS, missed your post, but if it’s the one Stephen did with Lin-Manuel from Hamilton, I’ve definitely seen it – several times. Very funny! They even carried on the local news! 😄

  63. 155 Ladyhawke
    November 8, 2016 at 10:05 am

  64. 156 RosesforObama
    November 8, 2016 at 10:05 am

    Good luck America! and thank You for electing President Obama 2008 and 2012.

  65. 158 Ladyhawke
    November 8, 2016 at 10:07 am

  66. 159 Ladyhawke
    November 8, 2016 at 10:10 am

  67. 160 jacquelineoboomer
    November 8, 2016 at 10:15 am

    Dear God – Please protect the innocent people who are trying to cast a vote today. Let the haters stumble off curbs and have to be carried away, bruised and bloody. Not harmed real bad, just bruised and bloody. We’re taking back America, on behalf of our grandmothers and grandfathers. #democraticbloodline

    • 161 jacquelineoboomer
      November 8, 2016 at 10:18 am

      Or, to borrow from an Irish “blessing”:

      May those who love us, love us, and those who don’t, may God turn their hearts, and if He doesn’t turn their hearts, may He turn their ankles so we’ll know them by their limping.

  68. 162 cd4biden
    November 8, 2016 at 10:19 am

    Just dropping in to post a good 10 min video of Van Jones starting that reconciliation work BoBfr keeps telling us we need to do. Sorry if its already been posted. Counting down the hours now. Hope to get back to TOD to read all the info you are posting. Fingers crossed and saying prayers for so many races across the country.


  69. 163 jacquelineoboomer
    November 8, 2016 at 10:25 am

  70. 164 donna dem 4 obama
    November 8, 2016 at 10:26 am

  71. 165 Nena20409
    November 8, 2016 at 10:26 am

    Happy Electiom Day To all TODable TODbots in USA.
    Go,Hillary Go! Win one for Humanity. No pressure, Just Win, Baby Win!
    Good Morning TOD.
    You all were busy last night. What a TOD Oasis!
    Thank you, NW.
    Thank you TOD Twitter Brigades.
    Thank you, TOD Contibutors.
    Thank you, TOD Lurkers.
    Victory! Victory!! Victory!!!
    {{{{ ❤ Chipsticks ❤ }}}}
    Congrats to all the God ⭐ winners since Monday Afternoon, starting with this Post.

  72. 166 jacquelineoboomer
    November 8, 2016 at 10:26 am

    Nerdy! You got us to Election Day! Thank you, darlin’.

  73. 167 Nena20409
    November 8, 2016 at 10:29 am

  74. 168 Nena20409
    November 8, 2016 at 10:30 am

  75. 170 Nena20409
    November 8, 2016 at 10:35 am

  76. 172 jacquelineoboomer
    November 8, 2016 at 10:36 am

    My friend’s white daughter (who voted twice for President Obama) is meeting up with her bi-racial daughter (first year she’s old enough to vote) and her Hispanic friend to head for their polling place and vote for Hillary. Yeehaw! I’m getting a little nostalgic today, thinking that these kinds of gatherings are being celebrated across the country.

    I shall dedicate a Hillary win to my maternal grandmother, born before women got the vote, and my mother, born one year after women got the vote, and continue to cherish my #democraticbloodline !!!!

  77. 173 Nena20409
    November 8, 2016 at 10:50 am

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  79. 175 Nena20409
    November 8, 2016 at 11:03 am

  80. 176 Nena20409
    November 8, 2016 at 11:05 am

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    November 8, 2016 at 11:16 am

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