Some people, like Rubio are so full of hate and jealously of PBO that any message is gonna get twisted in their minds.
Obamacare covers mental illness Marco.
Probably not. I always ask the same question when the GOP gives their response after the SOTU.
He knows that the President visited a mosque and saw that as an opportunity to dog-whistle his audience…low information voters who will assume whatever he tells them to be fact.
For some reason Sheila Dixon seems to be the favorite here in Baltimore. I thought she previously resigned due to some issue.. will have to read up on her more, she was before my time here in Baltimore. There are a lot of people running for this office, many young and some long term folks. I listened to a few of them speak one day- frankly liked the youngsters more. But have to read up on all of them much more. I’ve only seen one ad so far- but not a tv watcher either. Will have to tune in more. This is good for Baltimore imo… lots of folks wanting to do good for this city, which I believe needs much more love and nurturing than it’s had in the past. My two cents as a newby.
thanks sherijr – I read a little more and discovered there are lots of candidates incl the husband of the attorney who charged the police with murder – so should be an interesting election.
These same RW tools didn’t say one word when “W” visited a mosque in September 2001. Not. one. word. Of course, it was OK for “W” to visit a mosque because he was a republican. The amazing thing I noticed is that GWB said essentially the same thing PBO said today about not demonizing all Muslims for the actions of a few. I guess Rubio, Trump, and some others in the GOP/TP just can’t get over a blah man having the same thoughts and opinions on the same matter as GWB.
Oh Dudette – that was exactly my thought when I first saw the tweet – she really has downgraded the GOP – they have lost the ability to write a sentence
I’m really asking for all TOD’s help. Could you help me out with posting links to this comment that have great writing on why Bernie is not the right choice. I’m hearing odd talk about how he’s the best bet. As you’ve probably noticed from my comments in the past, I’m cautious about Hillary, but I also want to make sure all the young ones in my life and everywhere have no excuse to not get educated. Then there are those who’re older & should know better & yet are passing out this: http://michaelmoore.com/MyEndorsementOfBernie/ Eff! I hate to ask for your help in this, but I’m so strapped with work overload, I only drop in here now & then, almost like a drive-by, not even a competent lurker. YIKES! 😦 Please help if you can, this is so important. Pretty please. Thank you! Bless!
There have been many good articles with facts and support (not just opinion rants) written and posted lately. I can’t remember all of them, but here are a couple. If I come across more I will come back to this thread and post them for you.
Thank you so, so very much, {{{MadameSoph}}}! I so appreciate this, you can’t imagine how I’ve been stressing. Copying and pasting into my “educate them email” to these folks.
Will do, {{{jojo}}! But been bombarded by stupidity lately, and feel a strong need to nip this in the bud with sound education. They’re in need of immediate critical thinking. 🙂 Bless! G’Nite!
Thank you so much, MadameSoph. I sent out the articles via email & added my own personal note, which I also added to my FB page:
“On a more serious note, I’m sending out a plea to all who can vote in US, please take the time to do some research, critical thinking, and add pragmatism into our lives. The Utopia promised is sugar left out in the rain. It washes quickly down the gutters. Best way to get facts is to look at these candidates’ public records, and then make an informed decision. Don’t vote for a person because “he’s the dude I’d like to have a beer with”. You weren’t invited for libations last time, and were never going to be invited thereafter. It was never about you, except your vote. Exercise that right to vote coupled with informed decisions. The Country is not just about you, but all who reside and strive to make it a better nation.”
“Sugar left out in the rain.” nice metaphor Gazelle. And also, thanks for posting “That’s the Way of the World” on the other thread – my fave EWF song!
Interestingly, this was produced for television by the late Andy Rooney of “60 Minutes” fame.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andy_Rooney
“In 1968, he wrote two episodes of the CBS News documentary series Of Black America,[14] and his script for “Black History: Lost, Stolen, or Strayed” won him his first Emmy.”[15]”
It was apparent from the video that Black Americans reject the term “Negro.” Displaying my ignorance (from what I learned as a schoolgirl), not sure why “Negro” is more offensive than another person being called “Caucasian.”
I understand that “Negro” should not be used (and I don’t), and see that the rejection of this racial classification apparently became public with the 1960s “Black Power” movement, but unclear why it’s an offensive term for many people. 😦
,,,even after a strong performance February 9… the rest of the electoral map is much less favorable to him, geographically, ideologically and demographically.
He presents himself as not only free of responsibility for anything that happened during his tenure [25 years in Congress], but vigorous in his insistence that nothing that was done while he was there had any value in addressing the problems that he discusses…Many congressional Democrats feel deep resentment at this wholly negative portrayal of our efforts.
…lack of Congressional support…Sanders has two House supporters…it’s the feeling that his approach to the very issue by which he defines himself—how to bring about fundamental progress toward a fairer society—makes it less likely that we will succeed in doing so.
Sanders denigrates what [Democrats] did achieve to the point of dismissal. Sanders’ current response to the constraints that we face, in effect, concedes their power by calling for a political revolution to overcome them. [Democrats] objection is not to that revolution, but to the fact that it’s extremely unlikely, and to the blowback if it fails to materialize.
If you think Sanders can bring about the revolution he promises, there is an important question to ask: Why has he met with a complete lack of success in at least starting the revolution until now?
As more attention is paid to his record, and as the silence of his colleagues perhaps turns into active skepticism and uneasiness, Sanders is likely to face headwinds he so far has managed to avoid…
The NBA Champs Golden State will be at the White House tomorrow, I think Curry is trying to show out tonight. He has 51 points. I imagine POTUS watch some of the game.
I fail to understand the comments on this page about Sanders and Clinton. Sanders was one of the leaders of CORE when he was a student at U. Of Chicago, he was arrested for protesting segregated housing and schools in Chigago, he participated in the 1963 March in Washington, he has a 100% rating from the NAACP. He stood tall in the fight against Bill Clinton’s egregious welfare “reform” bill, which Hillary supported and continues to applaud as a “success,” calling welfare recipients at one time, “deadbeats.” Bill Clinton ran a campaign in 1992 filled with racial dog whistles, particularly at one point targeting Jesse Jackson. Sanders was one of the few white elected officials in America to support Jackson in both of his presidential runs. Bill Clinton passed a crime bill in 1994 that disproportionally targeted African-Americans, with Hillary saying the bill would go after “super predators.”
And do none of you remember the things both Clintons said in 2008, like her statement that she was supported by “working Americans, white working Americans”? When Sanders was confronted by Black Lives Matter, he responded by spending a lot of time meeting with them and incorporating their concerns into his very substantive racial justice platform. But his votes in Congress, as the NAACP rating makes clear, have always been on the side of racial justice.
Yes, he parts company with the President on some matters. He also praises him consistently. Hillary has criticized the President on many things. Right now she finds it politically expedient to tie herself very tightly to President Obama, including taking credit for his and Secretary Kerry’s accomplishments with the Iran deal, about which she has been at best lukewarm in the past. At the first moment it is convenient for her politically to distance herself from the Presudent, she will do so.
I supported the President in 2008 and 2012, working very hard for both campaigns. I have differences with him, but I admire him greatly and always will. I have loved coming to this site every day, but I am increasingly distressed at the almost reflexive negativity about Senator Sanders, and this comment really sent me over the edge. Sanders, like our President, is a man of integrity, who has fought all his life for equality and justice. If you support Hillary, who for most of her political life has behaved quite cynically when it comes to race, as well as just about everything else, okay. But you can’t wipe out this fine man’s entire life of fighting for racial justice. Again, at least consider his 100% rating from the NAACP.
Kathryn Levy, I made that statement because Senator Sanders has been in the House and Senate for almost 30 years. What has he done since 1963 to present to “fight against institutional racism”? I am not giving any of the others a pass especially the Clintons. As far as the bills that Bill Clinton passed that unfortunately changed welfare as we know it and the crimes bill that was not written to target AA’s this is how the “system” and “institutions” used it to target AA’s just like Nixon’s and Ronald Reagan’s war on drugs which was written specially to go after minorities. Look I don’t like pandering from either group whether it’s the DEMs or GOP. If Bernie Sanders is the nominee we all have said we would vote and work for him. I don’t agree with PBO 100% of the time nor did I agree with the other DEM presidents 100% of the time and I am not that thrilled about HRC but I will vote for her if she is the nominee. I don’t like her pandering nor her behavior toward candidate Barack Obama during 2008. Senator Sanders does not like nor appreciate what PBO has accomplished as I’ve heard him in his own words on Thom Hartmann how he does not agree with PBO on many things like healthcare. I don’t think Senator Sanders appreciate that PBO HAD to do something that would be palatable for the Insurance companies, hospitals, Dr’s, and even using the GOP’s framework of an ACA. NO one was pleased not even his own party. But people are getting medical attention, insurance companies can’t drop people who CAN afford insurance, and a host of other good things. Bernie Sanders and many others fail to remember that and appreciate it. States that can do a “public option” have crunched the numbers and it won’t work the way Senator Sanders thinks it will. I am sure PBO looked at the huge number of people unemployed putting insurance companies “out of business” as Senator Sanders wants to do. He won’t do it and many of us here know he may try but there are Congress people with large insurance companies in their states that won’t let it happen one being California, Minnesota, and others who have many employees working for these companies. Where are they going to work when President Sanders gets rid of their jobs? I am happy Senator Sanders has a 100% rating with NAACP which is not the organization it used to be but he also has a pretty good rating with the NRA. I don’t agree with his stance on guns and he doesn’t seem to see the affects of guns on other states than his own.
First of all, Sanders has a D- lifetime rating from the NRA. You don’t get that if you vote with them. And you don’t get a 100% rating from the NAACP and the ACLU, if you haven’t supported civil rights. Sanders has a long legislative history of fighting for civil rights and specifically fighting the horrible sorts of legislation that Bill Clinton passed and Hillary supported.I’m in a place with bad Internet connection or I would post the many examples of Sanders very strong record on civil rights. If you google Sanders legislative record on civil rights you will find pages and pages of examples of what I’m talking about. As for the ACA, I guess we have a difference of opinion. I think it was a great achievement, but has to be seen as the beginning of health care reform, not the end. We still have a system where people pay exorbitant amounts to the private health insurers, and usually, because of high deductibles and the various other games the insurers play, get very bad health care coverage, or in many cases no coverage. Sanders knows a lot about the legislation–he was one of the people who worked on it, and he managed to get 11 billion dollars into the bill for community health centers that serve everyone and have become a lifeline for many. This is just one of many examples of his substantive and extremely pragmatic legislative career. I guess I would conclude by asking you to look at his actual record and positions, easy to find on the web, and giving him another chance.
Sanders is not a democrat…he despises the DEMS and he does not respect the accomplishments of PBO….i have met many so called leftists of the ilk of Bernie Sanders in my years of organizing…they live in a different reality…
you and me see Sanders in a different light …so be it…
Sanders doesn’t despise the Democrats–he’s been caucusing with them during his entire legislative career. He’s to the left of PBO, but PBO campaigned for him in 2006 and he campaigned for PBO in 2008. He’s also a very practical legislator, as you will discover if you google his legislative record. Please look at my post above.
I don’t agree with the “disappointeds” of which Bernie Sanders has gone on record as one. I don’t agree with the desire to seek purity tests for Democrats the way the “conservatives” constantly do. We do nuance. I don’t agree with vilifying Hillary Clinton period. We’ve seen enough of that against our President. I’ve watched the behavior of the Sanders supporters and said to myself, so much for respect, empower, include. Any ambivalence is met with swift retaliation in a borg like way. It says something about the candidate. I don’t want the left power over forces or the machine exclusivity. I want what the President has shown us is possible. I want the maturity, the ability to care about those that don’t care about you, the commitment to integrity and hard work, the constant lifting up of people who don’t even know yet what they are capable of, the joining forces across communities in love and respect. We have had it all, worked hard for the chance to elect our President and never been disappointed. Its hard to move forward. Everyone will have to figure that out but everyone with an ounce of sense must be out to vote for the candidate that wins our primary process.
We clearly have a very different take on Senator Sanders. He speaks very respectfully of the President and of Hillary Clinton. If some of his supporters don’t do that, they are doing something he clearly disapproves. As for Hillary Clinton, I wish she spoke as respectfully of others as Senator Sanders does. She needs the President now, but when she was running against him, her comments were outrageous. And she uses surrogates to attack people. She’s doing that with Sanders now and she certainly did it with PBO in 2008. As for expressing disappointment over some aspects of the President’s administration, I don’t think that’s the same as expecting some sort of purity. Senator Sanders statements and entire political life have been much more nuanced than that. I come to this site basically every day because of how much I admire the President, but I have differences with him in many areas. Again, I don’t see what’s wrong with that. I guess what is disturbing me in the comments I’m seeing here is that most people are vilifying Senator Sanders and creating some awful caricature of him. This is a man who has lived a life of great integrity and passion for justice. The President speaks highly of him. I wish he could be treated with more balance here.
I don’t usually like to do back and forth particularly when feelings run so deep. There’s always a danger that it will end in some sort of win lose situation. I am not wanting to go there. I have to say though that anyone that understands how much people on this site love our President, I mean really love him, should never be amazed by the reaction to anyone trying to diminish him. In the beginning of the primary season there was no obvious preference that I could see in people’s comments. The only thing I saw consistantly was the absolute grief at the thought of the President’s last term ending. It took individual and commuity work to get to the point where people began to accept it and research the candidates. I knew what an Obama coalition member would be looking for because I was looking for that myself. By catering to the folks that have always diminished this President on the cynical Left, Bernie Sanders made a choice. It was his choice to make and he made it. There should be no surprise when there are reactions to that choice.
I have very deep feelings for outr President too. And if he could have a third term, I would be delighted. But I don’t agree with your interpretation of Sanders’ position. I don’t think he seeks to disminish this President at all. His politics, like mine, are to Obama’s left, but I completely believe him when he says he has great admiration for the President. I actually don’t believe it when Hillary Clinton says it. I think Sanders would build on the President’s great accomplishments in a way Hillary can’t imagine. He is also a political figure who is deeply humane and who is seeking a far reaching justice and humanity. I think Hillary’s view of the world is cramped and cynical. But I agree with your statement about the dangers of this back and forth. I come to this site to refresh myself and remember the profound humanity and aspiration Barack Obama has offered us. I guess I’ve been shocked by the vitriol I’ve seen toward Senator Sanders. I think that attitude is appropriate for the Trumps of this world, but very misdirected when it comes to a decent man who has dedicated his life to justice and equality. Biden has said quite a lot about Sanders decency. I just would like people here to open their minds to him. But I don’t want to distract from the glorious pictures of the President with those beaming children at that mosque. Peace.
I was lucky enough to see an exhibit of some of Mr. Dial’s work in Atlanta eons ago. His work was like a punch in the gut and a smack on the head. I was mesmerized.
Pretty much didn’t change my final opinions, after watching the CNN town hall. The good part of the evening so far was not watching any “news” about any of the RWNJs during the broadcast. Works for me.
If you don’t want to watch the entire thing, you might watch ~ 6:56-14:24 – an interview with Lawrence Hill, author of “The Book of Negroes”. He was born of American parents; interesting to hear him talk a bit about his background.
D-ette, I’d like to be like you when I grow up;…… honestly. You display an interest in so many areas and you remember both information and people, then share willingly and with good humour. Thanks; I needed a little uplift right now, and your smiling face was *it*.
VC, it’s probably too late for you to see my reply, but thank you for the reminder about Lawrence Hill and The Book of Negroes. I came across the end of the mini series on BET last year and wanted to read the book and watch the entire mini series, then life got busy and it slipped my mind. My Black ancestors were in New York at the time of the Revolutionary War and, when I was watching the mini series, I felt like I could have been watching them.
I only had time to watch the segment with Mr. Hill, but I intend to come back here and watch the whole thing tomorrow. Thank you for this!
YW, Mme S. [I was unable to get online today, hence my late response.] I found the entire programme interesting and informative. Don’t tell anyone but I’ve had Hill’s book from way before it was made into a mini-series and still haven’t read it; nor did I watch the series on TV. I actually find it harder to read/watch these stories these days because I get too angry at the inhumanity. Listening to him, now that was not as filled with tension for me.
Oh VC, I totally get that – I find it hard too. I also have a “Don’t tell anyone”: I haven’t seen the movie Twelve Years a Slave yet. Two of my ancestors that lived in New York during Revolutionary times were living free and kidnapped by militia like Solomon Northrop. They were luckier than he and managed to escape much sooner, but when I saw scenes from the movie as it was being promoted, especially those featuring Solomon Northrup’s character, I was just overcome with emotion, hurt and anger because his story is so close to my own ancestors’. I really want to see it and some day I hope I will have the strength.
Yea, it’s the closeness piece that bothers me too MmeS. Whenever I watch, even though I know those are actors/actresses I am looking at, I seem unable to control the seething anger that arises in me to see humans treat other humans worse than animals. I buy the books, or movie, then tell myself that “one day” I’ll read or watch. You’d be surprised at how many unopened movies and books I have on my shelves.
/whisper/ 😀 😀 I actually do have ‘Twelve Years a Slave’ on my shelf here tho I did persuade a group to go see it here when it came out.
Followed the Town Hall on twitter. Bernie is just another Ralph Nader, in love with his own personal purity, he builds it by diminishing others, especially our President. Incapable of actual governance.
It’s apparent that @onetoughnerd (don’t usually comment about tweople’s monikers unless they’re humorous, but what a terrible handle for a sitting Governor) is trying to deflect the horror in Flint to EPA (and will get ample promotion from the egregious @ron_fournier).
But the state PAID for a graphic with blatant TYPO?
[EPA:]
allowing the state to use it’s pre-approved revolving loan on the water crisis.
No one proof reads graphics before publishing?
What’s wrong with federal government letting the state decide how to deploy loan funds???)
Obama White House.gov
The Obama Diary 
Love this Nerdy!
Congrats Tally girl on First 🙂
Congrats Lovely Tally.
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#leadership
“Leadership” indeed, AMK! Once again our incredible President spoke with wisdom and moral clarity.
Must Read
http://www.eclectablog.com/2016/02/this-is-how-you-know-michigan-republicans-are-absolutely-freaking-out-over-the-flintwatercrisis-that-they-created.html
this is who they are. would you expect anything less?
Some people, like Rubio are so full of hate and jealously of PBO that any message is gonna get twisted in their minds.
Obamacare covers mental illness Marco.
This is a statement of a person who is way out of his league. Definitely not ready to sit in that chair in the oval office.
Rubio is another stupid Republican idiot.
To paraphrase a line from William Shakespeare,
“The third-place finisher doth protest too much, methinks.”
Good one!
Maybe this will be the undoing of MR like when Sick Santorum called PBO a snob for wanting all kids to attend college.
Did this idiot listen to the President’s speech?
Probably not. I always ask the same question when the GOP gives their response after the SOTU.
He knows that the President visited a mosque and saw that as an opportunity to dog-whistle his audience…low information voters who will assume whatever he tells them to be fact.
GE TODville.
Attn: DonnaDem.
Awesome!
That is awesome – does he have a chance of winning?
looks like aussies ass kicking open season has begun.
Need the odd loss to remind them you do not stay at the top by bragging. Cricket Life has its ups and downs.
I still think the best game I ever saw was the centenary test 1977 – and doesn’t that make me feel old. sigh
No odd loss. It’s 4-0 asskicking in a row.
Have you forgotten already the defeat of India in the 40 over matches?
what defeat? that was long, long ago, soooooo long ago, that it has become a speck in memory.
In your dreams
Dunno. But I will enjoy watching the race. I’m pulling for him to do well, whether or not he wins.
For some reason Sheila Dixon seems to be the favorite here in Baltimore. I thought she previously resigned due to some issue.. will have to read up on her more, she was before my time here in Baltimore. There are a lot of people running for this office, many young and some long term folks. I listened to a few of them speak one day- frankly liked the youngsters more. But have to read up on all of them much more. I’ve only seen one ad so far- but not a tv watcher either. Will have to tune in more. This is good for Baltimore imo… lots of folks wanting to do good for this city, which I believe needs much more love and nurturing than it’s had in the past. My two cents as a newby.
thanks sherijr – I read a little more and discovered there are lots of candidates incl the husband of the attorney who charged the police with murder – so should be an interesting election.
yes, I like him and hope to hear more from him and his plans.
Thanks so much NW. I love seeing the large pictures of PBO.
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I am thrilled to see this post, Nerdy, because I must catch up with all of it.
Currently watching the town hall. So far, so good, for me, relating to Bernie’s responses to the questions. He seems real.
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What beautiful pictures. President Obama brings light and peace wherever he goes.
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Trump just got nominated for a novel peace prize.
Are they nuts?
Whoever he paid to nominate him? Yes. Yes, they are nuts.
all kindsa kooks are allowed to nominate their fellow kooks for nobel. It means jacksquat.
I like this – it would indeed be a ‘novel’ peace price if Trump was being considered for one. 😀 😀
Yes, let him go ahead and win that novel peace prize. And the REAL peacemakers will win the Nobel Peace Prize.
Hmm…
See my comment below. I’ve grabbed this article for educating those in my sphere. If you have other links, please let me know. Thanks, Dudette.
There seems to be a lot of *misleading* going on in his campaign.
He and Cruz could run together.
These same RW tools didn’t say one word when “W” visited a mosque in September 2001. Not. one. word. Of course, it was OK for “W” to visit a mosque because he was a republican. The amazing thing I noticed is that GWB said essentially the same thing PBO said today about not demonizing all Muslims for the actions of a few. I guess Rubio, Trump, and some others in the GOP/TP just can’t get over a blah man having the same thoughts and opinions on the same matter as GWB.
Oh Dudette – that was exactly my thought when I first saw the tweet – she really has downgraded the GOP – they have lost the ability to write a sentence
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Beautiful post Nerdy!
Truly it is.
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Here’s some color on the signing of TPP today.
Japan:
New Zealand:
More on New Zealand:
Cool!
I’m really asking for all TOD’s help. Could you help me out with posting links to this comment that have great writing on why Bernie is not the right choice. I’m hearing odd talk about how he’s the best bet. As you’ve probably noticed from my comments in the past, I’m cautious about Hillary, but I also want to make sure all the young ones in my life and everywhere have no excuse to not get educated. Then there are those who’re older & should know better & yet are passing out this: http://michaelmoore.com/MyEndorsementOfBernie/ Eff! I hate to ask for your help in this, but I’m so strapped with work overload, I only drop in here now & then, almost like a drive-by, not even a competent lurker. YIKES! 😦 Please help if you can, this is so important. Pretty please. Thank you! Bless!
Hi Gazelle,
There have been many good articles with facts and support (not just opinion rants) written and posted lately. I can’t remember all of them, but here are a couple. If I come across more I will come back to this thread and post them for you.
Here is a good one on Sanders’ FP shortcomings.
http://www.politico.com/story/2016/01/bernie-sanders-foreign-policy-deficit-218431
This was very good from a millennial on why Sanders is not the best choice:
http://www.thepeoplesview.net/main/2016/1/26/berned-out-why-this-millennial-wont-be-supporting-bernie-sanders-in-the-primary-election
Thank you so, so very much, {{{MadameSoph}}}! I so appreciate this, you can’t imagine how I’ve been stressing. Copying and pasting into my “educate them email” to these folks.
Will check again, in the a.m. Bless!
Pace yourself Gazelle we have several months to go before the convention and election day.
Will do, {{{jojo}}! But been bombarded by stupidity lately, and feel a strong need to nip this in the bud with sound education. They’re in need of immediate critical thinking. 🙂 Bless! G’Nite!
Just saw this (and on a side note, I remember looking at his plan and noticing that even people who make 18,000 per year would see a tax increase):
http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2016/02/02/analysis-bernie-sanderss-tax-increases-fall-short-of-paying-for-health-plan/
Thank you so much, MadameSoph. I sent out the articles via email & added my own personal note, which I also added to my FB page:
“On a more serious note, I’m sending out a plea to all who can vote in US, please take the time to do some research, critical thinking, and add pragmatism into our lives. The Utopia promised is sugar left out in the rain. It washes quickly down the gutters. Best way to get facts is to look at these candidates’ public records, and then make an informed decision. Don’t vote for a person because “he’s the dude I’d like to have a beer with”. You weren’t invited for libations last time, and were never going to be invited thereafter. It was never about you, except your vote. Exercise that right to vote coupled with informed decisions. The Country is not just about you, but all who reside and strive to make it a better nation.”
Peace & love!
“Sugar left out in the rain.” nice metaphor Gazelle. And also, thanks for posting “That’s the Way of the World” on the other thread – my fave EWF song!
Interestingly, this was produced for television by the late Andy Rooney of “60 Minutes” fame.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andy_Rooney
“In 1968, he wrote two episodes of the CBS News documentary series Of Black America,[14] and his script for “Black History: Lost, Stolen, or Strayed” won him his first Emmy.”[15]”
It was apparent from the video that Black Americans reject the term “Negro.” Displaying my ignorance (from what I learned as a schoolgirl), not sure why “Negro” is more offensive than another person being called “Caucasian.”
I understand that “Negro” should not be used (and I don’t), and see that the rejection of this racial classification apparently became public with the 1960s “Black Power” movement, but unclear why it’s an offensive term for many people. 😦
,,,even after a strong performance February 9… the rest of the electoral map is much less favorable to him, geographically, ideologically and demographically.
He presents himself as not only free of responsibility for anything that happened during his tenure [25 years in Congress], but vigorous in his insistence that nothing that was done while he was there had any value in addressing the problems that he discusses…Many congressional Democrats feel deep resentment at this wholly negative portrayal of our efforts.
…lack of Congressional support…Sanders has two House supporters…it’s the feeling that his approach to the very issue by which he defines himself—how to bring about fundamental progress toward a fairer society—makes it less likely that we will succeed in doing so.
Sanders denigrates what [Democrats] did achieve to the point of dismissal. Sanders’ current response to the constraints that we face, in effect, concedes their power by calling for a political revolution to overcome them. [Democrats] objection is not to that revolution, but to the fact that it’s extremely unlikely, and to the blowback if it fails to materialize.
If you think Sanders can bring about the revolution he promises, there is an important question to ask: Why has he met with a complete lack of success in at least starting the revolution until now?
As more attention is paid to his record, and as the silence of his colleagues perhaps turns into active skepticism and uneasiness, Sanders is likely to face headwinds he so far has managed to avoid…
wow…great ponts
The NBA Champs Golden State will be at the White House tomorrow, I think Curry is trying to show out tonight. He has 51 points. I imagine POTUS watch some of the game.
Really?!?!?!?! Or is that only for as long as it’s convenient for you to be???
Yep
^5
He never has before. ..
I fail to understand the comments on this page about Sanders and Clinton. Sanders was one of the leaders of CORE when he was a student at U. Of Chicago, he was arrested for protesting segregated housing and schools in Chigago, he participated in the 1963 March in Washington, he has a 100% rating from the NAACP. He stood tall in the fight against Bill Clinton’s egregious welfare “reform” bill, which Hillary supported and continues to applaud as a “success,” calling welfare recipients at one time, “deadbeats.” Bill Clinton ran a campaign in 1992 filled with racial dog whistles, particularly at one point targeting Jesse Jackson. Sanders was one of the few white elected officials in America to support Jackson in both of his presidential runs. Bill Clinton passed a crime bill in 1994 that disproportionally targeted African-Americans, with Hillary saying the bill would go after “super predators.”
And do none of you remember the things both Clintons said in 2008, like her statement that she was supported by “working Americans, white working Americans”? When Sanders was confronted by Black Lives Matter, he responded by spending a lot of time meeting with them and incorporating their concerns into his very substantive racial justice platform. But his votes in Congress, as the NAACP rating makes clear, have always been on the side of racial justice.
Yes, he parts company with the President on some matters. He also praises him consistently. Hillary has criticized the President on many things. Right now she finds it politically expedient to tie herself very tightly to President Obama, including taking credit for his and Secretary Kerry’s accomplishments with the Iran deal, about which she has been at best lukewarm in the past. At the first moment it is convenient for her politically to distance herself from the Presudent, she will do so.
I supported the President in 2008 and 2012, working very hard for both campaigns. I have differences with him, but I admire him greatly and always will. I have loved coming to this site every day, but I am increasingly distressed at the almost reflexive negativity about Senator Sanders, and this comment really sent me over the edge. Sanders, like our President, is a man of integrity, who has fought all his life for equality and justice. If you support Hillary, who for most of her political life has behaved quite cynically when it comes to race, as well as just about everything else, okay. But you can’t wipe out this fine man’s entire life of fighting for racial justice. Again, at least consider his 100% rating from the NAACP.
Kathryn Levy, I made that statement because Senator Sanders has been in the House and Senate for almost 30 years. What has he done since 1963 to present to “fight against institutional racism”? I am not giving any of the others a pass especially the Clintons. As far as the bills that Bill Clinton passed that unfortunately changed welfare as we know it and the crimes bill that was not written to target AA’s this is how the “system” and “institutions” used it to target AA’s just like Nixon’s and Ronald Reagan’s war on drugs which was written specially to go after minorities. Look I don’t like pandering from either group whether it’s the DEMs or GOP. If Bernie Sanders is the nominee we all have said we would vote and work for him. I don’t agree with PBO 100% of the time nor did I agree with the other DEM presidents 100% of the time and I am not that thrilled about HRC but I will vote for her if she is the nominee. I don’t like her pandering nor her behavior toward candidate Barack Obama during 2008. Senator Sanders does not like nor appreciate what PBO has accomplished as I’ve heard him in his own words on Thom Hartmann how he does not agree with PBO on many things like healthcare. I don’t think Senator Sanders appreciate that PBO HAD to do something that would be palatable for the Insurance companies, hospitals, Dr’s, and even using the GOP’s framework of an ACA. NO one was pleased not even his own party. But people are getting medical attention, insurance companies can’t drop people who CAN afford insurance, and a host of other good things. Bernie Sanders and many others fail to remember that and appreciate it. States that can do a “public option” have crunched the numbers and it won’t work the way Senator Sanders thinks it will. I am sure PBO looked at the huge number of people unemployed putting insurance companies “out of business” as Senator Sanders wants to do. He won’t do it and many of us here know he may try but there are Congress people with large insurance companies in their states that won’t let it happen one being California, Minnesota, and others who have many employees working for these companies. Where are they going to work when President Sanders gets rid of their jobs? I am happy Senator Sanders has a 100% rating with NAACP which is not the organization it used to be but he also has a pretty good rating with the NRA. I don’t agree with his stance on guns and he doesn’t seem to see the affects of guns on other states than his own.
First of all, Sanders has a D- lifetime rating from the NRA. You don’t get that if you vote with them. And you don’t get a 100% rating from the NAACP and the ACLU, if you haven’t supported civil rights. Sanders has a long legislative history of fighting for civil rights and specifically fighting the horrible sorts of legislation that Bill Clinton passed and Hillary supported.I’m in a place with bad Internet connection or I would post the many examples of Sanders very strong record on civil rights. If you google Sanders legislative record on civil rights you will find pages and pages of examples of what I’m talking about. As for the ACA, I guess we have a difference of opinion. I think it was a great achievement, but has to be seen as the beginning of health care reform, not the end. We still have a system where people pay exorbitant amounts to the private health insurers, and usually, because of high deductibles and the various other games the insurers play, get very bad health care coverage, or in many cases no coverage. Sanders knows a lot about the legislation–he was one of the people who worked on it, and he managed to get 11 billion dollars into the bill for community health centers that serve everyone and have become a lifeline for many. This is just one of many examples of his substantive and extremely pragmatic legislative career. I guess I would conclude by asking you to look at his actual record and positions, easy to find on the web, and giving him another chance.
Sanders is not a democrat…he despises the DEMS and he does not respect the accomplishments of PBO….i have met many so called leftists of the ilk of Bernie Sanders in my years of organizing…they live in a different reality…
you and me see Sanders in a different light …so be it…
Sanders doesn’t despise the Democrats–he’s been caucusing with them during his entire legislative career. He’s to the left of PBO, but PBO campaigned for him in 2006 and he campaigned for PBO in 2008. He’s also a very practical legislator, as you will discover if you google his legislative record. Please look at my post above.
We will have to agree to disagree on Bernie Sanders
I don’t agree with the “disappointeds” of which Bernie Sanders has gone on record as one. I don’t agree with the desire to seek purity tests for Democrats the way the “conservatives” constantly do. We do nuance. I don’t agree with vilifying Hillary Clinton period. We’ve seen enough of that against our President. I’ve watched the behavior of the Sanders supporters and said to myself, so much for respect, empower, include. Any ambivalence is met with swift retaliation in a borg like way. It says something about the candidate. I don’t want the left power over forces or the machine exclusivity. I want what the President has shown us is possible. I want the maturity, the ability to care about those that don’t care about you, the commitment to integrity and hard work, the constant lifting up of people who don’t even know yet what they are capable of, the joining forces across communities in love and respect. We have had it all, worked hard for the chance to elect our President and never been disappointed. Its hard to move forward. Everyone will have to figure that out but everyone with an ounce of sense must be out to vote for the candidate that wins our primary process.
We clearly have a very different take on Senator Sanders. He speaks very respectfully of the President and of Hillary Clinton. If some of his supporters don’t do that, they are doing something he clearly disapproves. As for Hillary Clinton, I wish she spoke as respectfully of others as Senator Sanders does. She needs the President now, but when she was running against him, her comments were outrageous. And she uses surrogates to attack people. She’s doing that with Sanders now and she certainly did it with PBO in 2008. As for expressing disappointment over some aspects of the President’s administration, I don’t think that’s the same as expecting some sort of purity. Senator Sanders statements and entire political life have been much more nuanced than that. I come to this site basically every day because of how much I admire the President, but I have differences with him in many areas. Again, I don’t see what’s wrong with that. I guess what is disturbing me in the comments I’m seeing here is that most people are vilifying Senator Sanders and creating some awful caricature of him. This is a man who has lived a life of great integrity and passion for justice. The President speaks highly of him. I wish he could be treated with more balance here.
I don’t usually like to do back and forth particularly when feelings run so deep. There’s always a danger that it will end in some sort of win lose situation. I am not wanting to go there. I have to say though that anyone that understands how much people on this site love our President, I mean really love him, should never be amazed by the reaction to anyone trying to diminish him. In the beginning of the primary season there was no obvious preference that I could see in people’s comments. The only thing I saw consistantly was the absolute grief at the thought of the President’s last term ending. It took individual and commuity work to get to the point where people began to accept it and research the candidates. I knew what an Obama coalition member would be looking for because I was looking for that myself. By catering to the folks that have always diminished this President on the cynical Left, Bernie Sanders made a choice. It was his choice to make and he made it. There should be no surprise when there are reactions to that choice.
I have very deep feelings for outr President too. And if he could have a third term, I would be delighted. But I don’t agree with your interpretation of Sanders’ position. I don’t think he seeks to disminish this President at all. His politics, like mine, are to Obama’s left, but I completely believe him when he says he has great admiration for the President. I actually don’t believe it when Hillary Clinton says it. I think Sanders would build on the President’s great accomplishments in a way Hillary can’t imagine. He is also a political figure who is deeply humane and who is seeking a far reaching justice and humanity. I think Hillary’s view of the world is cramped and cynical. But I agree with your statement about the dangers of this back and forth. I come to this site to refresh myself and remember the profound humanity and aspiration Barack Obama has offered us. I guess I’ve been shocked by the vitriol I’ve seen toward Senator Sanders. I think that attitude is appropriate for the Trumps of this world, but very misdirected when it comes to a decent man who has dedicated his life to justice and equality. Biden has said quite a lot about Sanders decency. I just would like people here to open their minds to him. But I don’t want to distract from the glorious pictures of the President with those beaming children at that mosque. Peace.
I was lucky enough to see an exhibit of some of Mr. Dial’s work in Atlanta eons ago. His work was like a punch in the gut and a smack on the head. I was mesmerized.
Pretty much didn’t change my final opinions, after watching the CNN town hall. The good part of the evening so far was not watching any “news” about any of the RWNJs during the broadcast. Works for me.
If you don’t want to watch the entire thing, you might watch ~ 6:56-14:24 – an interview with Lawrence Hill, author of “The Book of Negroes”. He was born of American parents; interesting to hear him talk a bit about his background.
Thanks for sharing this!
YVW. 🙂
D-ette, I’d like to be like you when I grow up;…… honestly. You display an interest in so many areas and you remember both information and people, then share willingly and with good humour. Thanks; I needed a little uplift right now, and your smiling face was *it*.
Aw, thank you sweet friend! You bring so much fun and info to TOD yourself. I appreciate you more than you could possibly know!
TY 😀 😀 We’d better stop before Amk starts muttering ‘Garyt’
Don’t take away his joy. He’s not happy unless he’s muttering about somethin’ 😀
*chuckle-chuckle* Okay, I won’t.
GARY T
i so agree with VC,,,dudette….you are truly a very interesting person…glad to have met yu hear in the diary
Of course, you could watch it all and get a little bit of background on the Black Americans who came to Canada.
VC, it’s probably too late for you to see my reply, but thank you for the reminder about Lawrence Hill and The Book of Negroes. I came across the end of the mini series on BET last year and wanted to read the book and watch the entire mini series, then life got busy and it slipped my mind. My Black ancestors were in New York at the time of the Revolutionary War and, when I was watching the mini series, I felt like I could have been watching them.
I only had time to watch the segment with Mr. Hill, but I intend to come back here and watch the whole thing tomorrow. Thank you for this!
YW, Mme S. [I was unable to get online today, hence my late response.] I found the entire programme interesting and informative. Don’t tell anyone but I’ve had Hill’s book from way before it was made into a mini-series and still haven’t read it; nor did I watch the series on TV. I actually find it harder to read/watch these stories these days because I get too angry at the inhumanity. Listening to him, now that was not as filled with tension for me.
Oh VC, I totally get that – I find it hard too. I also have a “Don’t tell anyone”: I haven’t seen the movie Twelve Years a Slave yet. Two of my ancestors that lived in New York during Revolutionary times were living free and kidnapped by militia like Solomon Northrop. They were luckier than he and managed to escape much sooner, but when I saw scenes from the movie as it was being promoted, especially those featuring Solomon Northrup’s character, I was just overcome with emotion, hurt and anger because his story is so close to my own ancestors’. I really want to see it and some day I hope I will have the strength.
Yea, it’s the closeness piece that bothers me too MmeS. Whenever I watch, even though I know those are actors/actresses I am looking at, I seem unable to control the seething anger that arises in me to see humans treat other humans worse than animals. I buy the books, or movie, then tell myself that “one day” I’ll read or watch. You’d be surprised at how many unopened movies and books I have on my shelves.
/whisper/ 😀 😀 I actually do have ‘Twelve Years a Slave’ on my shelf here tho I did persuade a group to go see it here when it came out.
{{{vc}}}} 🙂 /also whispering/ I won’t tell if you won’t tell
^5
Interesting. Thanks, VC, for posting this.
You are welcome, SW.
Obviously relates to the party & the color of the skin. Unbelievable that he is not called to give evidence in the house inquiry
Yep, that was my reaction
Followed the Town Hall on twitter. Bernie is just another Ralph Nader, in love with his own personal purity, he builds it by diminishing others, especially our President. Incapable of actual governance.
GM Dudette.
It’s apparent that @onetoughnerd (don’t usually comment about tweople’s monikers unless they’re humorous, but what a terrible handle for a sitting Governor) is trying to deflect the horror in Flint to EPA (and will get ample promotion from the egregious @ron_fournier).
But the state PAID for a graphic with blatant TYPO?
[EPA:]
allowing the state to use it’s pre-approved revolving loan on the water crisis.
No one proof reads graphics before publishing?
What’s wrong with federal government letting the state decide how to deploy loan funds???)
#IdiotsGraspingAtStraws
Good night, my Lady D-ette. I iz going to read for a bit. Sweet dreams to you when you get around to it.
A very belated but HUGE thank you, Nerdy!!
Morning everyone:
http://theobamadiary.com/2016/02/04/the-national-prayer-breakfast-3/