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Early Bird Chat

On This Day: President Barack Obama greets a young child after a town hall meeting at the Bob Martinez Sports Center at the University of Tampa in Tampa, Fla., Jan. 28, 2010. (Photo by Pete Souza)

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Today

The President accepts 15 new ambassadors to the United States and, later, discusses his final year agenda at the House Democrats Issues Conference in Baltimore (will have times soon-ish)


170 Responses to “Early Bird Chat”


  1. January 28, 2016 at 7:55 am

    Good Thursday, Chipsticks…TOD Family!!!

  2. January 28, 2016 at 7:59 am

  3. January 28, 2016 at 8:01 am

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  5. January 28, 2016 at 8:02 am

    Good morning Ms. Chips, Danny and TOD family, I hope all is well with everyone this lovely Thursday morning. Congrats swbluega, on being first this morning.

    To all, I hope your day will be bustling with a cheerful, lively, and vibrant persona today. ❤ ❤ ❤

    Thank God that President Obama is still the President of The United States of America. ⭐🏆 ⭐🏆 ⭐🏆

  6. 9 desertflower
    January 28, 2016 at 8:02 am

    Morning everyone…love this photo:) The wonder and the gentle touch:) Seems I’ve acquired a nasty cold….

    • January 28, 2016 at 8:04 am

      Ah flip, {{DF}} – get yourself a truck-load of vitamin C!

      • 11 desertflower
        January 28, 2016 at 8:11 am

        Thanks. I don’t “do” sick very well:) I hardly ever get sick, so when I do….I don’t do well. I will eat Vitamin C….and fruits and veggies:)

    • 13 arapaho415
      January 28, 2016 at 8:52 am

      ((( DF )))

      Being sick is the pits.

      May be too late, but sucking on zinc lozenges works for me — I reach for them at the first sign (dripping nose, sore throat). Use GNC brand which is pretty expensive, but works for me. (Don’t know if Rite Aid (former Thriftys here) carries GNC anymore — there’s been such a consolidation in drug stores in my neck of the woods — all the ones I used to frequent have been replaced by CVS 😦 ).

    • 14 57andfemale
      January 28, 2016 at 9:15 am

      The question these days: who DOESN’T have a cold? I’m just getting over my second bout of cold/bronchitis.

      Be well.

      • 15 tnmtngirl
        January 28, 2016 at 9:29 am

        My daughter is getting over a cold, plain ole common cold, and grandson has it now. UGH! Thankful we have escaped thus far.

        • 16 57andfemale
          January 28, 2016 at 9:40 am

          I prayed that Mr. 57 wouldn’t get it until I was pretty much over it. Because if my chronic asthma, everything settles in my chest and I felt really awful over the weekend and the beginning of this week. If he’s going to get it, he can do it now! I’m better enough.

  7. January 28, 2016 at 8:02 am

  8. January 28, 2016 at 8:04 am

    • 22 jackiegrumbacher
      January 28, 2016 at 8:10 am

      Sw, this is a wrong and desperate move on Sanders’ part. It will backfire badly.

      • January 28, 2016 at 9:06 am

        well this explains why his supporters have always been nasty….

      • 24 donna dem 4 obama
        January 28, 2016 at 9:19 am

        Why the need to go negative if you are surging in the polls like all his supporters want us to believe?. According to them he has a gazillion million supporters coming out to his rallies so he’s suppose to blow her away on Monday night. I guess we’ll know for sure on Monday night.

        • 25 tnmtngirl
          January 28, 2016 at 9:33 am

          Yeah, well. That guy I was listening to Tuesday night from DFA (Howard Dean’s organization) was really walking back Bernie’s “walking away” in Iowa……..thinks it will be close…….the ‘possibility’ is there, but we are trying to be cautious, blah, blah, blah.

        • January 28, 2016 at 9:43 am

          Maybe Sanders going negative he is listening to his supporters like Michael Sainato, the idiot who decided to attack our FLOTUS. Well I plan to vote for Hillary. Thank you Sainato.

          • 27 catrst
            January 28, 2016 at 1:02 pm

            I am 100% sure Bernie is not getting my vote. Attack those I love and I know what to do. By the way anyone attacks the TOD, ever, for
            anything, I’ll feel the same way. You are my brothers/sisters. Didn’t know that did you. Don’t look forward to the will. Won’t be much to bequeath. Just my love.

        • 28 57andfemale
          January 28, 2016 at 9:46 am

          Surging in the polls that have wide open screens of potential voters. Caucus goers? Hillary beats Bernie every time.

    • 29 57andfemale
      January 28, 2016 at 9:44 am

      Call me crazy, but Bernie has been making snide comments for ages, and his staff has done a good deal of dirty work. Only the MSM decides what they think is true and keep repeating it, despite facts.

      And was it Bernie directly or someone from the campaign that whined about Pelosi yesterday, being just a regular “establishment” politician?

      Does he have a clue how government works? PBO bent over backwards for every Democratic a** and they still ran from him. Who does Bernie think is going to do his bidding, if he keeps dissing Dems and is only using the party as a stepping stone?

      Disliking him more and more every day.

      • January 28, 2016 at 9:56 am

        If his record is any indication, apparently, he doesn’t work well with others as it is. Should we expect someone who seems to be pretty set in their ways to be any different if elected POTUS?

        One thing I wish the Democratic candidates — all of them — would do is to set the tone so that if they are not the nominee, their supporters could *readily* transition to support the nominee without resentment and/or extreme reluctance. This way of tearing down the other candidates to make yourself stand out…especially the personal attacks and statements based on little or no fact … makes party unity difficult for some. It practically encourages the pouters to be defiant and stay home.

        • 31 57andfemale
          January 28, 2016 at 10:26 am

          Hillary is being far more gracious than I ever thought possible, so I’m hopeful. These polls showing Bernie “beating” GOP better than Hillary are a direct result of his supporters taking their baseball bats and going home. And remember, Bernie does not support, has never supported the Democratic Party in any way. I read an article from a journalist who has covered him for 25 years – he wouldn’t even help Progressive Party candidates in VT get elected! This “I’m only a Dem because it’s convenient now” attitude is what made me start taking a critical look at who Sanders really is.

          Here’s what really scares me: he means it when he invokes “revolution”. His surrogate, Thom Hartmann, makes it perfectly clear that he (Thom, and I believe Bernie as well) think that a total collapse and upheaval would be good. We could re-build “utopia”.

          Now, who is to say the total destruction is going to magically be rebuilt as utopia? Could it not also mean (and I believe more possible) that chaos would bring out the worst in everyone, and we would lose forever this delicate balance of stability that America has fostered?

          I don’t think Bernie will give a damn if Trump becomes POTUS. Tear the whole thing down. It’s Nader on steroids, and it frightens me.

      • 32 Cha
        January 28, 2016 at 11:12 am

        You’re not crazy.. berni talks out of both sides of his mouth. Says he’s not going negative and then compares Hillary’s FP to dickdarthcheney. Accuses HRC and PP of being #establishment.. and that’s a couple things.. he’s always taking cheap pot shots.

        When he reneges he reneges!

        Love to know what President Obama said to him yesterday.

        • 33 57andfemale
          January 28, 2016 at 12:01 pm

          He gets to flip flop but when his opponent does it (or “evolves” as situations and information changes), it’s “lack of character and principle.”

          Don’t paint yourself as the non-politician when that’s all you are. At least the vast majority of other politicians help their institution, build their members. Bernie is above it all. He would be a disastrous POTUS. If you would have told me a year ago that I hope Hillary would kick his ass and do it early, I would have told you you were insane. But here we are.

      • 34 catrst
        January 28, 2016 at 1:09 pm

        On the great orange site a real hero who has been developing stats on ACA enrollments for years, referenced by Krugman, etc. etc. and kept us sane while the ACA opened and we waited to see if enough people would join to keep it going, has written a piece talking about how he has been attacked (Tea Party style) by site regulars because he had the gaul to prefer Clinton’s health care proposal to Sanders’. He listed some comments as examples just to demonstrate what has been happening to him. I think if right wing posters are trying to prop up Sanders at Clinton’s expense which would be fully possible, this will only backfire. Liberals don’t react like lemmings. That’s why GOTV and unity is such an issue for us. Try to attack people we trust like our grassroots activists and our FLOTUS and it just won’t make us turn on Clinton. We’ll turn on you. Big time.

        • 35 57andfemale
          January 28, 2016 at 3:46 pm

          I’ve been following Charles Gaba – ACAsignups and the b.s. he’s had to put up with. And Krugman. There was some progressive radio host who pulled his show because he couldn’t take the attacks anymore.

          I am hoping that these maniacs have an inflated presence on social media and not out in the real world.

          GOTV: where is DWS on this? We’re under in new registrations in IA. She is worthless.

  9. January 28, 2016 at 8:10 am

    Hard to believe it’s been 30 years…I can still remember being at lunch with co-workers when we heard the news.

  10. January 28, 2016 at 8:11 am

    Um, how do I remove this fitting thingie for a towel rail holder thingie from the wall?

    How come those screwy things are pointing outwards? How was it humanly possible to put them in back to front? And how the heck do I get them out?

    Any one who doesn’t help gets a Newtkini pic.

    • 42 desertflower
      January 28, 2016 at 8:14 am

      Claw part of a hammer…pull the wood away from the wall…why is that thing on the wall??

      • 43 desertflower
        January 28, 2016 at 8:17 am

        Take this thing TOTALLY off the wall. There are pretty little holders for paper towels that fit on the counter….or if you prefer not to see the paper towels hanging out in your kitchen, get one of those holders that you can put inside the cabinet door. NOT ON THE WALL!

      • January 28, 2016 at 8:18 am

        Thank you DF! Are you sure using the claw part of a hammer won’t remove the wall as well?

        It was the holdie bit for a towel rail and appears to have been on that wall for 187 years.

        • 48 desertflower
          January 28, 2016 at 8:21 am

          I make no promises about what may happen to the 187 yo wall….I’d claw that thing off the wall anyway and worry about the rest later. If there’s a hole in the wall when you get done with it, a picture might look lovely over that hole:) It would DEFINITELY look better than that towel rack! Ripitdown.

          • 49 desertflower
            January 28, 2016 at 8:25 am

            PS…If you can’t get the claw in there to move it away from the wall….use at flat head screwdriver and a hammer….I see that many of us have put our 2 cents in:) We are nothing if not full of reason and advice:)

          • January 28, 2016 at 8:33 am

            Oh feck, I didn’t think about holes in the wall. This thing is only tummy high, so pictures would look odd there. I need to think about this. 😕

        • 51 Roberta in MN
          January 28, 2016 at 8:27 am

          Chips, take the wood dowels off and the screws that hold it to wall are in there. The dowels only cover the screws. Does that help?

    • 57 jackiegrumbacher
      January 28, 2016 at 8:19 am

      Call a carpenter, Chips, or a friend who knows a handyman. When puzzled by house related things I can’t solve, I ask experts. The only other alternative is to wrench the thing from the wall, leaving a big hole. Which, in a nutshell, is why I call for help.

    • 60 amk for obama
      January 28, 2016 at 8:22 am

      The top & bottom round thingies are decorative dummy plugs. Use a screwdriver to pry them out, you will be two screws inside. Remove them, remove the wooden whatever it is thingy.

      wait a minute, aren’t ya supposed to be painting your heater? tsk, stk, tsk.

    • January 28, 2016 at 8:22 am

      Hmmmm….I see that df is terrified of getting a Newtkini pic.. 🙂

      Here’s my advice, Chips. Just yank the whole thing off the wall and start all over from scratch!!!!!!!

      • January 28, 2016 at 8:30 am

        “I see that df is terrified of getting a Newtkini pic..” 😆

        Wait! I didn’t put that thing on the wall, retract that scurrilous allegation!1!

        • 77 hopefruit2
          January 28, 2016 at 8:41 am

          Sorry- my bad! It looks like it’s on wall though. Well just start over again. Take the nails out with the hammer, and put them back in facing the proper way! LOLZ!! 🙂 🙂

  11. 80 jackiegrumbacher
    January 28, 2016 at 8:14 am

    Morning Chips and TODers. In the wee hours of the morning (EST), Dudette offered a glorious series of images of President Obama’s campaigns and his years in office. Hard not to weep just looking at them. So thanks, Dudette, for the gift.

  12. 87 amk for obama
    January 28, 2016 at 8:24 am

    just yank the thing off the wall. wimminz/smh.

  13. 90 Allison
    January 28, 2016 at 8:27 am

    Good Morning Everyone!!

  14. January 28, 2016 at 8:44 am

    Good Morning, Everyone 🙂

  15. 96 desertflower
    January 28, 2016 at 8:45 am

    I can’t “unsee” the vision in my head. That said, PERFECT description!

    • January 28, 2016 at 9:14 am

      It’s ironic that of all the “networks,” FAUX is the one having all the dissension with the GOP and *its* candidates… karma… chickens roosting… you built that… and all that stuff.

    • January 28, 2016 at 9:17 am

      Of course, CNN, MSNBC, et al, kowtowing to him continues to give Trump leverage and allows him to usurp the RNC’s authority/control.

  16. January 28, 2016 at 8:49 am

    Okay, Danny ambling time – thank you (some of you) for the DIY advice, I will get to work as soon as I’m home 😎

  17. January 28, 2016 at 8:51 am

    THE RACHEL MADDOW SHOW 1/27/16
    Rachel: Flint water crisis will be solved
    Rachel Maddow explains why she is hopeful that the Flint, Michigan’s water crisis can, and will, be solved.

  18. January 28, 2016 at 8:52 am

    Go Serena!!!!

  19. 102 amk for obama
    January 28, 2016 at 8:52 am

  20. 103 amk for obama
    January 28, 2016 at 8:53 am

  21. January 28, 2016 at 8:53 am

    BWA HA HA HA HA H AH

  22. 106 amk for obama
    January 28, 2016 at 8:54 am

    heh, bt.

    now you get the picture, right?

  23. January 28, 2016 at 8:55 am

    Good morning TOD

  24. 110 arapaho415
    January 28, 2016 at 8:57 am

    GM TODville.

    Don’t like to dwell on the negative, but this caught my eye (OMG).

    Anne Frank’s step-sister, Eva Schloss, was friends with her. Eva’s mother married Anne’s father after the end of WWII.

    From the article:
    “’If Donald Trump become(s) the next president of the U.S. it would be a complete disaster,’ she told Newsweek on Wednesday. ‘I think he is acting like another Hitler by inciting racism.’”

    😦

  25. January 28, 2016 at 9:05 am

  26. 114 amk for obama
    January 28, 2016 at 9:11 am

    Zika virus: Up to four million Zika cases predicted.

    http://www.bbc.com/news/health-35427493

    and there is no vaccine for it. jesus.

    • 115 jackiegrumbacher
      January 28, 2016 at 9:20 am

      So if there are no symptoms, how will it be diagnosed? I see the potential for mass hysteria on this one. By this summer, people will become paranoid about mosquitoes, pregnant women will panic and the government will be blamed for not immediately finding a cure.

      • 116 amk for obama
        January 28, 2016 at 9:24 am

        The CDC sez is very difficult to diagnose at this point since there are no known tests. Yup, I see another msm fueled Ebola !!! we are all gonna die!!! feeding frenzy.

  27. 117 Anjo
    January 28, 2016 at 9:14 am

    The 2 screws sticking out the wall are for screwing on the towel bars: 1 remove the wooden knobs (flat screwdriver and prying) unscrew nuts that are usually behind these take off wall. If not reusing the spot fill holes with putty (found at your friendly hardware store, just explain they will know and guide you right).

    The circular thingy is for hand towels not toilet paper unless without the stiffening cardboard in the centre toilet paper is now real flexible.

    Ignore the instructions for replacing toilet seat, simply put your hand to the side and under toilet bowl where screw should be, unscrew the nut on either side take up old seat, place new screws in new cover place screws in holes, screw new nuts on bottom as tight as you can, use flat screwdriver tighten screw on top, close cover and presto as simple as ever takes 5 minutes. I did mine on the weekend.

    Final piece of advise, visit your friendly hardware store often and ask questions even if you are not buying anything tell them you are planning to renovate and you are looking, you will get lots of info on what to do, how to fix and when you really have a problem you will be able to fix it yourself. I bought my first house in 1982 and I can do basic plumbing and a bit of maintenance..all electrical stuff should be left to the experts you don’t want anyone planning your funeral before you’re ready to leave…Happy fixing

    • 118 desertflower
      January 28, 2016 at 9:48 am

      Great advice! I especially love the last paragraph….I could spend an entire day in a hardware store. I love them. Always have:)

      • 119 Roberta in MN
        January 28, 2016 at 12:50 pm

        Agree 10000%. Used to spend a lot of time in hardware stores, especially ones that have been around a very long time. They don’t throw anything away and you can find something that is 30+ years ago that was in stock. I could spend hours just looking at what is out there now.

  28. January 28, 2016 at 9:15 am

    Governor Snyder do you think that the decisions for flint water situation were wrong?

    Yes- I sure do… It was awful what Other people decided to do and the decisions they made…
    Other people?
    Hmmmm!

  29. 121 GGAIL
    January 28, 2016 at 9:15 am

    Good West Coast morning Chipsticks & TOD family.
    Doesn’t that baby remind us of Donna’s grand babies? 😘

  30. 131 amk for obama
    January 28, 2016 at 9:20 am

    Trump attacks ‘bimbo’ Kelly for GQ photo shoot

    Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2016/01/trump-megyn-kelly-gq-photos-218320#ixzz3yY5hr1p7

    Karma, kelly.

    • 132 57andfemale
      January 28, 2016 at 10:28 am

      Then his wife is a bimbo, too, isn’t she?

      Does Trump even listen to what comes out of his mouth?

      • 133 amk for obama
        January 28, 2016 at 10:35 am

        self-awareness and drecak have never met. he just blathers whatever comes to his mind (see his liberty univ ‘speech’ – he was totally bullshitting and lying). pox news and other cable noise, instead of ridiculing his nonsese, fluffed him up 24×7, and now the scum shows his venom against them. I am very happy with this latest face punching. I want more and more voters see this and get disgusted with them both.

  31. January 28, 2016 at 9:22 am

  32. January 28, 2016 at 9:27 am

    Here are six lies you will likely hear from the candidates during Thursday night’s debate:

    1. “Planned Parenthood… [was] in fact trafficking in baby body parts.”
    2. “The satellite data demonstrate that there has been no significant warming whatsoever for 17 years.”
    3. “[President Obama’s] first impulse always is to take rights away from law-abiding citizens.”
    4. “The biggest threat today… is Islamic terrorism”
    5. “We have people pouring in. They’re pouring in.”
    6. “Every time we raise the minimum wage, the number of jobless people increases.”

  33. 137 amk for obama
    January 28, 2016 at 9:30 am

    Great bj post.

    https://www.balloon-juice.com/2016/01/28/thursday-morning-open-thread-much-ado/#comment-5636439

    No. Obama’s victory has been mythologized. Momentum played one factor, but there were many others.

    In August 2007 PPP had Obama and Clinton tied in South Carolina (33 to 36). He always had footing and foundation in SC & it only grew during the fall. In contract, in September 2015 Clinton was beating Sanders 54-9.

    Blacks were naturally going to flock to Obama, the same way Irish & Catholics flocked to Kennedy. This allowed Obama to sweep 8 of 10 southern states (Florida’s vote was set aside).

    Similar conditions don’t exist for Sanders.

    Additionally 2008 was a 3 person race btwn Clinton and 2 ABCs (Obama and Edwards). Edwards got 17% of the vote in NH and SC. When he dropped out most of it went to Obama. Sanders doesn’t stand to inherit a big chunk of voters when O’Malley drops out.

    Obama had Ted Kennedy and Caroline Kennedy and a large chunk of Dems supporting him (Holder, Rice, Power, Zbigniew, Kerry, Carter), plus a shit load of former military. And he had Oprahpalooza.

    Sanders doesn’t have that well to draw on.

    Obama had an ingenuous guerrilla campaign and top notch operatives in Axelrod & Plouffe & Anita Dunn.

    Sanders’s campaign manager Jeff Weaver runs a comic book store.

    So Sanders will get a ton of positive coverage after IA & NH but the foundation, conditions, and demographics are not there to build victories in southern and non-populist states.

    • 138 57andfemale
      January 28, 2016 at 10:33 am

      Excellent post.

      I would add: PBO did everything he could to make Americans comfortable with his candidacy and abilities to be POTUS. Bernie does the opposite, invoking revolution and tearing down instead of fostering comfort and trust.

  34. January 28, 2016 at 9:31 am

  35. January 28, 2016 at 9:35 am

    If not for the obsession with Trump “news” organizations/newstainers would probably be sounding the alarm…go directly from caution to widespread panic.

  36. 141 amk for obama
    January 28, 2016 at 9:37 am

    Trevor Noah: Trump’s stab for attention by ditching debate worked — but he’s still an ‘asshole’

    http://www.rawstory.com/2016/01/trevor-noah-trumps-stab-for-attention-by-ditching-debate-worked-but-hes-still-an-ashole/

  37. January 28, 2016 at 9:38 am

    • January 28, 2016 at 10:06 am

      Well Eric Boehlert, Roger Ailes has humiliated Roger Ailes plenty of times, being head of that piece of racists lying crap Fox so call news is humiliation in itself.

  38. January 28, 2016 at 9:44 am

    • 150 donna dem 4 obama
      January 28, 2016 at 10:06 am

      Boom!

      Eric is so right about this. I remember it as if it was yesterday. Chris Matthews and Ed Henry (who was at CNN at the time) and many others all started whining that if the WH took down FOX that they would be next.

  39. 151 JER
    January 28, 2016 at 9:55 am

    Good Morning Chips and TOD.

    LIVE NOW: World Health Organization Holds News Conference on Zika Virus – http://abcnews.go.com/Live?stream=1

  40. 152 amk for obama
    January 28, 2016 at 9:55 am

  41. 153 JER
    January 28, 2016 at 9:56 am

    President Obama walks to the motorcade last night en route to the Embassy of Israel.

    A photo posted by Pete Souza (@petesouza) on

  42. January 28, 2016 at 9:59 am

  43. January 28, 2016 at 10:00 am

    Trump and Fox are both lying creeps. And I have no more respect for the media. They have ate up this B.S. so call war between Trump and Kelly and Fox. What is happening in Flint ought to get number one attention, but what is it that get the attention? Trump not attending the Fox debate. Trump understand the media, he knows what makes them tick.

  44. January 28, 2016 at 10:01 am

  45. January 28, 2016 at 10:06 am

    I.AM.DEAD.

    DEAD, I tell ya!!

    BWA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA

  46. 161 amk for obama
    January 28, 2016 at 10:08 am

    No one knows business branding better than Donald Trump does. But now his brand is becoming an issue as companies are starting to wrestle with whether associating with a Trump-led Republican National Convention in Cleveland this summer could hurt their own reputations.

    Company representatives and association heads have already begun huddling with their D.C.-based consultants about whether they should rethink their convention plans if Trump wins the GOP nomination. Several Republican lobbyists and consultants said there is concern that associating with the real estate mogul — given some of his inflammatory comments about women and minorities — could turn off customers and damage corporate brands.

    “If it is him, many will scale down activity,” said one Republican lobbyist who has held conference calls about the so-called Trump factor.

    Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2016/01/donald-trump-cleveland-convention-republicans-brand-218297#ixzz3yYHWEKGR

    rnc pr bs should be ruing the day he made donald dreck sign ‘the pledge’.

  47. January 28, 2016 at 10:08 am

  48. 163 JER
    January 28, 2016 at 10:10 am

  49. 164 JER
    January 28, 2016 at 10:17 am

  50. 165 Dudette
    January 28, 2016 at 10:28 am

    Solemn day for our friends at NASA

  51. 166 Dudette
    January 28, 2016 at 10:29 am

  52. 167 Dudette
    January 28, 2016 at 10:35 am

    • 168 CEB
      January 28, 2016 at 10:52 am

      I got the news while I was in my classroom with my 11th grade language Arts students. This hit us especially hard because the name of the high school where I taught for 28 years, Edward H. White, after the first astronaut to walk in space who later died tragically in a fire on a launch pad. The names of the hallways and meeting areas to this day have names from the space program. I have been a space junkie/nerd for most of my life: I kept scrapbooks of all of the Gemini and Apollo flights and was 15 when I witnessed the moon landing. For me, the space program models so much about our national character; the can do attitude, the youthful chance-taking spirit, the curiosity of always wanting to know what is beyond our shores, just over the mountains and into the skies; the craziness that it takes to do the whole thing; the genius of the scientists and the engineers who thought, “Of course, we can build this,” and most of all a leader (JFK) who set the goal and another (LBJ) who carried on the dream and made it a priority. We were also especially saddened because the first teacher to go into space was killed along with the rest of the crew.

  53. 169 Dudette
    January 28, 2016 at 10:36 am


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