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  1. January 3, 2016 at 11:34 am

    Good Sunday Morning, Chipsticks…TOD Family!

    Congrats on first, GGail! 🙂

    Everyone enjoy your day.

  2. January 3, 2016 at 11:35 am

    And the people who occupy the Fed building in Oregon are showing why gun control is a great idea. If only sane people had guns, that mess wouldn’t be able to get a water gun permit.

    Sorry everybody about that messed up paragraph in the last thread. Mozilla Firefox has become nearly impossible to use anymore, so I’m going with a portable, few extensions Chrome now so that I don’t double post waiting for a cut and paste to show up. Chips, please delete or edit that post.

  3. January 3, 2016 at 11:38 am

    brought from previous thread

    They’ve been angry since January 20, 2009


    Poll: Republicans angrier than Democrats

    January 03, 2016, 09:00 am

    More than three quarters of Republicans, 77 percent, said they now get angry at least once a day, compared with 67 percent of Democrats.

    White Americans are also angrier than African Americans and Latinos, pollsters found.

    Fifty four percent of whites said they find themselves feeling angrier more often about current events. Thirty three percent of African Americans said the same thing, as did 43 percent of Latinos.

    Pollster said there is a strong correlation between a high degree of anger and “the sense that the U.S. is no longer the most powerful country in the world; that the American dream is dead; that the gap between the rich and poor is widening; and that one’s life didn’t turn out as well as one had imagined when they were younger.”


    • January 3, 2016 at 4:00 pm

      Were people asked these questions when any other president was in office? A republican pollster said repulicans would be happy if Bill Clinton were president right now, because he knew how to govern. So this is what it’s all about — president Obama. The GOP trying to dismiss everything accomplished by this president by playing the angry card. And Bernie Sanders playing into it to overcome the lack of minority support. These people are the same angry people who supported McCain and Palin. What were they angry about then, BHO becoming president. The MSM loves to jump on any sick story line without analysis of the root cause.

    • 9 nathkatun7
      January 3, 2016 at 5:34 pm

      The U.S. media is both useless and dishonest. They are useless because they all about sensationalism and peddling fear. They are dishonest because they are the ones who relentlessly push negative news and manufactured GOP lies about President Obama. Without any hint of shame, they then turn around and poll people after they’ve fed them lies and constant negativity. What is really remarkable is that a great many Americans still love and respect President Obama.

  4. 10 JER
    January 3, 2016 at 11:44 am

    The First Family arrives JBA . Click here ► ► http://www.cbsnews.com/liveFeed/widget.shtml

  5. 14 arapaho415
    January 3, 2016 at 11:44 am

    Also bringing over from the last thread — confirmation that PBO did relax over (at least one) cocktail while on vacation:

    • 15 Don
      January 3, 2016 at 11:53 am

      As usual I looked at the menu for Morimoto Waikiki, it didn’t have any pictures but I’m sure the food was fabulous.

  6. 16 vcprezofan2
    January 3, 2016 at 11:47 am

    It’s Sunday! 🙂 … Tomorrow is back to work. 😦 OH, hey, today is *still* Sunday! 🙂 🙂

    • 17 GGail
      January 3, 2016 at 12:06 pm

      Good W/E coast morning VC. I’m going to squeeze as much enjoyment out of this Sunday as I can 🙂

      • 18 vcprezofan2
        January 3, 2016 at 12:16 pm

        That’s the spirit! 🙂

        Of course, me being me, I have unfinished work I brought home and though it has to be done before tomorrow it hasn’t been started …yet. 😀

        Good E/coast afternoon & W/coast morning to you. 😀

  7. 21 Nena20409
    January 3, 2016 at 11:49 am

    Happy New Year, TODable TODbots 😉
    I last posted on Thursday, Dec 31st, 2015.
    I tried to lurk and boy……TOD Community was on Fire!
    New Year is what I look forward to. A New Year without a mistake, fault or regrets.
    Thank you, Chips, NW, Amk, LL, LP, Azizi, our awesome and powerful Twitter Brigades, brilliant contributors, Lurkers, Friends and Foe alike.
    Happy New Year!
    So POTUS has a Town Hall on CNN on 1-7-16 at 7:00 pm EDT? Okay, then.
    Loved the Word Crowd, Amk.
    33, 674, 548, Hits…….marching toward another milestone: 34M, Hits 🍸 🍸

  8. 22 99ts
    January 3, 2016 at 11:50 am

    gnite from down under – take care everyone

  9. January 3, 2016 at 11:58 am

    Hope the First Family enjoy their vacation.

  10. 24 Nena20409
    January 3, 2016 at 12:07 pm

    Hopefully, with this Boom, PEACE and Stability will replace Doom and Gloom from Terror and War.

  11. 25 Vicki
    January 3, 2016 at 12:09 pm

    President Obama said this year he will be leaving it all on the road. I can hardly wait.

    “PBO is beginning as he means to go on,” as a British saying goes.
    This week—-gun regulation. Appearance on Anderson Cooper for a Town Hall! An hour! In Prime Time!

    Next week I predict the 17 detainees will be released from Guantanamo reducing the number still incarcerated there to 90. The President set “under 100” as the target for an announcement of his plan.

    Pretty hot start, don’t you agree?

    • 26 Vicki
      January 3, 2016 at 12:12 pm

      Not to mention the State of The Union on Tuesday, January 12.

      • 27 Vicki
        January 3, 2016 at 12:16 pm

        This week on CNN prime time.
        Next week on all channels prime time.
        President Obama in his own words. MSM weeps.
        But there will be competition to host POTUS. So I won’t be surprised to see a prime time appearance on lots of other channels in the coming months. This is going to be delicious.

  12. January 3, 2016 at 12:09 pm

    The new and revised paragraphs:

    Now for the idiots taking over the Federal Wildlife Refuge in Oregon. I agree with everybody who says let them starve and freeze-if they want to die, let it be from hunger and cold (it’s 13 degrees with wind chill) as they turn off the power supply and shut off the water. Hopefully as they start to feel frostbite and thirst, they may rethink this needless stand. Unfortunately, I don’t think they have thought this through enough. In a shootout with the Feds, there is only one winner-and it’s not them. And the Feds can certainly wait them out-they’ll be well supplied, rotate watchers and perimiter standers if they decide that’s the better choice. Nothing like that for the domestic terrorists. I doubt if many people will be coming to join them in 13 degree weather, with the prospect of armed Federal Guards blocking off the one road leading to the complex.

    Their resentment of the BLM and the Federal Govt is steadily backfiring on them. The Federal Monuments and Wildlife Refuges create jobs that are steady and can’t be outsourced, unlike increasingly the mining and oil jobs. Tourism is going to be there always, along with the natural beauty and the decent land values that exist becaue there’s no threat of developers.

    The Bundys are also stupid in another way. It’s the Federal ownership and Federal rights that enables them to keep ranching now. Left to the states that can be pressured into making deals, any land would be subject to bidders for anything-and those bidders may not care about things like water management or soil health-or the Bundy claims.

    • 31 Don
      January 3, 2016 at 12:44 pm

      I say the government should go in right now and end this, Seal Team Six should be on their way to Oregon as we speak. These fuckers want to take government property, well then they should suffer the consequences.

      • January 3, 2016 at 1:11 pm

        i think that this is what they want…going out in a blaze of glory…..i like the notions of creating conditions in which they have to surrender…similar of the strategy that the President uses for ISIS…creating conditions that would lead to their implosion…

        • 33 arapaho415
          January 3, 2016 at 1:30 pm

          Yep, they’re a dozen (or so) caged animals, wanting to recreate another #RubyRidge, #Waco — RWNJ’s version of suicide bombers, but they entrench themselves on federal property instead of imposing themselves on civilians.

        • 36 Don
          January 3, 2016 at 1:32 pm

          Your scenario is better, but something inside of me might enjoy the blaze of glory thing a bit more.

        • January 3, 2016 at 1:34 pm

          Roger that pf58.

          Give them ZERO access to any form of communication except waving a white flag when they want to surrender.

          And, until they surrender, no food, water or electricity and if they step outside with anything other than a white flag, soak them with a fire hose.

          But, under NO circumstance, use force against them unless they come out shooting. And, if they do that, launch a few stun grenades and have skilled snipers shoot’um in the groin with rubber bullets, i.e., NO MARTYRS and nothing that remotely looks like that Waco Branch Davidian fiasco.

          • January 3, 2016 at 1:37 pm

            from your lips to they ears of whoever is in charge…by the way …do you know who is in charge of this situation

            • 42 arapaho415
              January 3, 2016 at 2:21 pm

              Agree with everyone here that there should be no martyrs from the desperate situation.

              From the article:
              “‘A collective effort from multiple agencies is currently working on a solution,” said Sheriff Ward said in his statement Saturday night.”

              Law enforcement is on the same page as TODville:
              “Law enforcement agencies appeared to be taking a low-key approach Sunday toward a group of armed men who have seized control of a federal wildlife refuge headquarters in southern Oregon, protesting the federal prosecution of two ranchers.”

              And here’s the GOP/Koch connection — the public must make it known that we don’t want our cherished public venues sold to those who will devastate the landscape for the sake of money in their own pockets.
              “The movement has picked up steam in recent years, led by Utah legislator Ken Ivory, who helms a national organization called the American Lands Council that tries to convince county and state governments to pursue the ownership of federal lands. A watchdog group has accused him of fraud in three states for his use of taxpayer dollars.”

        • 45 nathkatun7
          January 3, 2016 at 5:53 pm

          I am with you,prettyfoot58! These white supremacists want attention! I say cut off their electricity and water and force them to surrender.

    • January 3, 2016 at 1:26 pm

      Well stated, Carol. Thank you!

  13. January 3, 2016 at 12:13 pm

    Sounds like Obama is going to hit the ground running to defend his accomplishments. He might as well. No work is going to be done by Congress this year-everybody is waiting to see who the next President is going to be. (Go HIllary!)

    BTW, a question to be asked now that the end is near: What happens to this blog after 1/20/2017? Obviously after the first burst of stuff, there won’t be a lot of daily news anymore. So then what? The Obama Journal (a quarterly)?

    • 49 Nena20409
      January 3, 2016 at 12:23 pm

      As ISIL/Daesh are ‘Contained’ and in the Home front, as Domestic Terror…….are not 24/7 Newsy Driven Drum-beat, Rest assured, Pres Obama will try his level best to drive this Political Process. We The People need that for HRC or Bernie are incapable……US News Media will not let them. Trump is the Mistress for the News Media……they love the thrill and the hide and seek element of it…..Pretending that bigotry and racism are not what Trump is all about. The Wife is the Voting and the Family is a Dem winning in Nov and Pres Obama would have secured the USA, once more.

      January 3, 2016 at 3:44 pm


  14. 52 JER
    January 3, 2016 at 12:21 pm

  15. 53 Nena20409
    January 3, 2016 at 12:25 pm

  16. 54 hopefruit2
    January 3, 2016 at 12:35 pm

    And….as the First Family returns home from their Hawaiian vacation, so has my Twilight Zone Marathon come to an end. 🙂

    • 55 Don
      January 3, 2016 at 12:46 pm

      I’ve enjoyed every episode. My favorite one is the one with the lady that’s driving cross country and she ends up in a minor accident and she doesn’t know that she’s dead.

      • 56 hopefruit2
        January 3, 2016 at 12:57 pm

        🙂 🙂 “The Hitchhiker” – I like that one as well! Right now my DVR is loaded with ~ 40 episodes that I will be watching over the next two weeks. So many favorites…so little time…

        • 57 Don
          January 3, 2016 at 1:10 pm

          Yes, “The Hitchhiker,” Netflix has the complete series. I usually watch old episodes on my days off.

      January 3, 2016 at 3:42 pm


  17. 59 GGail
    January 3, 2016 at 12:41 pm

    I’m just catching up on the Oregon situation, but it seems like the judge who imposed the initial sentences for the Hammond father and son, made a grave mistake that is coming back to haunt the Federal government…

    Dwight Hammond, 73, and Steven Hammond, 46, said they lit the fires in 2001 and 2006 to reduce the growth of invasive plants and protect their property from wildfires. He said he feels his upcoming prison term is a life sentence.

    “I’m not very happy about that. Just don’t know what to say,” Hammond said. “It just seems like a little overreach for having burned 127 acres.”

    The two were convicted of the arsons three years ago and served time – the father three months, the son one year. But a judge ruled their terms were too short under federal law and ordered them back to prison for about four years each.

    The decision has generated controversy in a remote part of the state.

    In particular, the Hammonds’ new sentences touched a nerve with far right groups who repudiate federal authority.


    And it seems the Bundy idiot’s have taken advantage of this sentencing.

    • 60 Don
      January 3, 2016 at 12:55 pm

      “I’m not very happy about that. Just don’t know what to say,” Hammond said. “It just seems like a little overreach for having burned 127 acres.”

      Nephew please! you burned 127 acres of government land and think they should just forget about it and tell you not to do it again?

      • 61 GGail
        January 3, 2016 at 1:00 pm

        Don, the article makes for good reading, wouldn’t you agree?
        The Hammonds, start a fire on Federal land.
        The Hammonds are sentenced for their crime.
        A federal judge later decides the sentences were too lenient, so they are given longer sentences.
        The Hammonds hold a protest rally.
        This incited the Bundy gang
        And here we are folks…

        • 62 zekke Lydonna
          January 3, 2016 at 8:33 pm

          The Judge did not use the minimum sentencing requirements. Therefore, the sentence was ‘illegal’.

      • 63 aquagranny911
        January 3, 2016 at 2:55 pm

        Their “little fire” endangered the lives of some hunters & also some forest firefighters who were taking a short rest in the area. Also, I read that they set the fire to cover illegal hunting on Federal land. The Hammonds can take several seats & stop whining! Just saying…

        • 64 0388jojothecat
          January 3, 2016 at 3:59 pm

          So much for Republican ‘personal responsibility’ is for THOSE OTHER PEOPLE, not for Republican/Affluenzed/Conservative/Christians.

        • 65 nathkatun7
          January 3, 2016 at 9:32 pm

          Exactly, Aquagranny! As always, you speak TRUTH! These people should be held accountable for starting the fires to cover up their “illegal hunting on federal land.” They indeed “endangered the lives of some hunters and…some …firefighters….” I enthusiastically applaud the Federal Judge who gave them appropriate sentences to fit their heinous crime. I have zero sympathy with the Hammonds! More importantly, the media (as well as many of us here) must stop legitimizing these white supremacists terrorists by calling them “Militias.”

  18. 66 GGail
    January 3, 2016 at 12:57 pm

    This falls under the category – Say Whaaat??!!!!


    A North Carolina Powerball winner’s boyfriend posted a $12 million bond Friday in his fourth time getting bailed out since her jackpot, according to reports.

    Lamar (Hot Sauce) McDow, 31, is accused of arranging a street race Saturday, and police said he was arrested Tuesday for violating the terms of his pre-trial release on earlier charges, WECT-TV reported.

    McDow’s live-in girlfriend, Shallote resident Marie Holmes, collected an $88 million lump sum payment after taxes for winning a $188 million jackpot in February. Her beau walked free on a $3 million bond weeks later and got out of jail on a $6 million bond in August.

    • 67 Don
      January 3, 2016 at 1:14 pm

      I read that story yesterday, I have no words.

    • 68 Don
      January 3, 2016 at 1:18 pm

      Oh, his name is “Hot Sauce,” well then he must be a keeper. I guess the city is working for the state in that they keep arresting this asshole and he keeps posting bail thereby assuring the state that they will get their powerball money back.

      • 69 GGail
        January 3, 2016 at 1:23 pm

        My thought exactly! And she doesn’t deserve to wake up and smell the coffee

        • 70 Don
          January 3, 2016 at 1:26 pm

          She received a lump sum of $88million dollars and the first thing she spends money on is his bail. If I were her I’d pay him just to go away, but then again she might enjoy everything about “Hot Sauce.”

          • 71 Don
            January 3, 2016 at 1:55 pm

            Not to keep talking about this guy but “bae” won $88 million dollars and this fucking guy is out setting up illegal drag races. And a year from now we’re going to read about this guy getting killed in some stupid ass way. Like pulling off the side of the road on the highway in the middle of the night to take a leak and getting hit by some drunk guy dressed as a clown.

            • 72 desertflower
              January 3, 2016 at 2:42 pm

              🙂 🙂 Somehow fitting…

            • 73 0388jojothecat
              January 3, 2016 at 4:02 pm

              Someone needs to take those kids away from her and make her pay for their care until they become adults. One of her children has a disability and could use money for his care way into the future. She’s pissing off her children’s chance for a better life and future. Unfortunately people like her will only have regret after the money is gone and her ‘boyfriend’ finds the next idiot with money.

  19. January 3, 2016 at 1:00 pm

    See ya later!

    • January 3, 2016 at 1:16 pm

      This is the last family vacation before Malia graduates from high school…i know this must have been bittersweet for the President…Malia too…

      • 76 nathkatun7
        January 3, 2016 at 10:02 pm

        You are absolutely right, Prettyfoot! In about.six months Malia will graduate from high school. On July 4th Malia will turn eighteen! I just can’t get over the fact that she was ten years when her father took the Oath to be President of the United States. I guess I should know better because my grand niece, the tinny baby I held in my arms when she was born, is also graduating high school in June.

    • January 3, 2016 at 1:38 pm

      The day they walk out of that White House for good will be a sad day for me. I know some may say what I’m saying make no sense, but this family is like my family. I wonder if the First Lady’s Mom spent Christmas with Craig and his family.

  20. 80 GGail
    January 3, 2016 at 1:05 pm

    The Hammond/Bundy situation is one of those times that PBO told Jerry Seinfeld called for a few cuss words. I can imagine him saying a few of them when he returns to business as usual later today 😀

  21. 82 GGail
    January 3, 2016 at 1:25 pm

    When I get back from Church today, jojo and I are going to see the Parade floats up close. 🙂 Bye

    • 83 mtmarilyn
      January 3, 2016 at 2:11 pm

      Hope you enjoyed your walk among the floats. I always loved seeing them up close. I worked on them once, I really loved it but once was enough. It is to much intense detail work for me. But so beautiful to see in the end.

      Is it warmer today?

      • 84 0388jojothecat
        January 3, 2016 at 3:01 pm

        Hi marilyn, and no it us not warmer in SoCal. I want to work on a float just once too. I will post pictures.

        • 85 mtmarilyn
          January 3, 2016 at 3:58 pm

          It is so worth doing at least once. I was in college and can’t remember how how several of us did it. We had so much fun but it is cold hard work. A real sense of accomplishment when it is done. Can’t wait to see the pictures.

  22. 86 No Child Left Behind
    January 3, 2016 at 1:28 pm

    Good Afternoon TODVille!

    Happy New Year 2016 with plenty of good health, recovery, peace, serenity and joy to all!

    Waiting to watch the town hall with the greatest president of modern times.

  23. January 3, 2016 at 1:30 pm

  24. January 3, 2016 at 1:51 pm

    what was all this about…proof that the press is just as off the chain…this reporter spreading fear and terror…smh

    • 89 globalcitizenlinda
      January 3, 2016 at 2:07 pm

      let the scumbags make all kinds of pronouncements in a public record – these will be used in the cases against them;

      there is nothing worse than self-important criminal who doesn’t quite recognize the legal implications of his/her utterances ;

      that is why there is the right to remain silent

      • 90 jackiegrumbacher
        January 3, 2016 at 3:15 pm

        Good point, global. These people live in their own world where there are no rules but their own. They’re soon going to find what happens in the real world and it’s going to be a whole lot of hurt for them.

  25. 91 JER
    January 3, 2016 at 2:00 pm

  26. 92 desertflower
    January 3, 2016 at 2:03 pm

    Refresher for those that think “both parties are the same” ….you KNOW you have friends/family that say that”_


    Heavy sigh. I had a flood in my front yard today…pipe broke and it’s a mess. I have a plumber coming sometime this afternoon to fix it…but in the meantime, I have no water coming to my house…..and, of course, it’s Sunday…because all my shit breaks on Sunday or a holiday! It’s Murphy again:)

    • 93 Don
      January 3, 2016 at 2:08 pm

      I hope everything is okay, desertflower, been there done that. I hope its not a septic pipe, those things are messy and expensive. I’ll keep a good thought for you.

    • 96 mtmarilyn
      January 3, 2016 at 2:21 pm

      I will never forget the Christmas when that happened to us. Christmas was on a Sunday so Monday was an official holiday and we have hot water heat the pipes froze so we had no heat. We couldn’t get anyone out until Tuesday. Was a very cold Christmas with no water or heat. Hope you get someone out soon.

  27. January 3, 2016 at 2:53 pm

  28. January 3, 2016 at 2:58 pm

    • 104 arapaho415
      January 3, 2016 at 3:43 pm

      Please don’t open the tweet and read the comments; offensive photo included in the comments, not my intent to publish here, but Rhouhani’s tweet is worthwhile.

  29. January 3, 2016 at 3:17 pm

  30. 106 globalcitizenlinda
    January 3, 2016 at 3:20 pm

    oh, the irony of ironies:

    => if you are arrested and convicted for a crime (oh, let me say, the crime of breaking into and occupying federal property), then don’t you automatically loose the right to own and buy an gun?



    • 107 Don
      January 3, 2016 at 3:27 pm

      Surely there’s a good guy with a gun that wants to end this foolishness?

      • 108 globalcitizenlinda
        January 3, 2016 at 3:42 pm

        every day, I am reminded of why I PBO is a better person than I will ever be => these scumbags want notoriety and if possible martyrdom and he is not giving it to them;

        we all know who has the upper hand if push came to shove and the numbers needed to change the calculus are not too high

    • 109 zekke Lydonna
      January 3, 2016 at 8:40 pm

      They would not pass PBO’s new background checks EO. So would their guns be confiscated?

  31. 110 desertflower
    January 3, 2016 at 3:27 pm


    The fires were set on land managed by the U.S. Bureau of Land Management. The Hammonds leased grazing rights for the property from the BLM.

    According to prosecutors the 2001 fire was located in the Steens Mountain Cooperative Management and Protection Area. The U.s. Attorney’s Office said:

    Witnesses at trial, including a relative of the Hammonds, testified the arson occurred shortly after Steven Hammond and his hunting party illegally slaughtered several deer on BLM property. Jurors were told that Steven Hammond handed out ‘Strike Anywhere’ matches with instructions that they be lit and dropped on the ground because they were going to ‘light up the whole country on fire.’ One witness testified that he barely escaped the eight to ten foot high flames caused by the arson. The fire consumed 139 acres of public land and destroyed all evidence of the game violations. After committing the arson, Steven Hammond called the BLM office in Burns, Oregon and claimed the fire was started on Hammond property to burn off invasive species and had inadvertently burned onto public lands. Dwight and Steven Hammond told one of their relatives to keep his mouth shut and that nobody needed to know about the fire.

    Steven Hammond was convicted in the 2006 arson, which occurred in the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge:

    There’s more at the link. They all need to be in prison.

    • 111 Don
      January 3, 2016 at 3:36 pm

      “After committing the arson, Steven Hammond called the BLM office in Burns, Oregon and claimed the fire was started on Hammond property to burn off invasive species and had inadvertently burned onto public lands.” Oh ok, no problem, sometimes when you set stuff on fire science has a way of taking over. Well no harm no foul.

      • 112 0388jojothecat
        January 3, 2016 at 3:52 pm

        Just because I burn down my house DOES NOT make it right or LAWFUL, ask me that if my house I am burning is next to yours and your house ‘just happens’ to catch on fire too. Not my fault you say? It’s my neighbor’s fault he didn’t have fire insurance……OK.

  32. 114 desertflower
    January 3, 2016 at 3:30 pm


    Saudi Arabia breaks off ties with Iran

    • 115 globalcitizenlinda
      January 3, 2016 at 3:35 pm

      this is escalating …. well, lets watch this space

      • 116 arapaho415
        January 3, 2016 at 3:53 pm

        GA GCL.

        See upthread response to PF58.

        Iran has arrested dozens for the arson of the Saudi Embassy.

        If the situation hasn’t calmed down by the end of this month, when Syrian peace talks begin, look for another item on John Kerry’s very full plate. 😦

        • 117 globalcitizenlinda
          January 3, 2016 at 4:01 pm

          I don’t know the order in which these two events occurred =>

          (a) the arrest of the Iranian people involved in the Saudi Embassy burning and;

          (b) the decree that all Iranian diplomats leave SA;

          I got the impression that the arrest were announced a little earlier so that is why I am concerned that this appears not be sufficient and that diplomats are asked to leave SA;

          at the very least, I would have expected the Iranian Ambassador to SA to be summoned to discuss the course of farther action;

          I am afraid, your predictions for SoS Kerry may be in the future

          • 118 arapaho415
            January 3, 2016 at 4:12 pm

            Yes, my sense of the timing of announcements is the same as yours.

            MSM tweets on this topic are freaking out. I guess my ignorance is on display, because I don’t see why this is so alarming, since Saudi and Iran will always be at odds at one another.

    • January 3, 2016 at 3:58 pm

      and with all of this…Saudis seek to scuttle the beginnings of the UN political agreement in Syria…if Assad is dethroned …and there is an end to the civil war in Syria….Isis loses…but you know who else loses …the Saudis…

  33. 120 globalcitizenlinda
    January 3, 2016 at 3:33 pm

  34. 128 globalcitizenlinda
    January 3, 2016 at 3:53 pm

    are people determined to fight to the last person?

    a few hours ago, the headlines were that Afghanistan specials and Indian protective services were engaged in a gun battle with militants that had attacked the Indian diplomatic facility (Consulate?) in Mazar al Sharif;

    last I read sporadic gun shots were still being exchanged

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