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  1. 1 IsackGen44
    December 2, 2015 at 6:37 pm

    Hello, everyone. I may be new here, but you all will remember me from our days on OFA (ions ago). I wished I had joined on a better day, but have always been reading up here first.

  2. December 2, 2015 at 6:38 pm

    The difference between Dems and Repugs is stark. Thanks Chips.

  3. 8 GGail
    December 2, 2015 at 6:40 pm

    Thank God the situation has been neutralized and I can drive home without fear of a shooter on the loose.

  4. 21 GGail
    December 2, 2015 at 6:42 pm

    Hear this GOP – I PRAY that you all get a CLUE and neutralize the NRA and do it NOW!

  5. 22 Betsy
    December 2, 2015 at 6:43 pm

    So my husband works down the street from where this went down and was on lockdown. He was in clinic this shooting could have so easily been where he works. I haven’t heard from him as to whether the lockdown is over, but he did text me he was in lockdown and safe about an hour ago. I was so scared. I sure hope they catch these guys.

  6. December 2, 2015 at 6:53 pm

    Latest:

    1 suspect fleeing
    2 shot, 1 dead, the other one yet to be determined

  7. 30 SUEDUVALLSMITH
    December 2, 2015 at 6:57 pm

    EACH DAY I CAN TURN ON THE NEWS AND FIND A TRIGGER PULLED SOMEWHERE…THAT’S UNFORTUNATE!…THOSE IN THE AREA IN QUESTION…STAY ALERT…STAY SAFE!

  8. 31 hopefruit2
    December 2, 2015 at 6:59 pm

    This is SICK. I don’t know what to say anymore. Saying thoughts and prayers go out to the victims is like scratching a sore wound…right now a complete waste of time and emotions…

  9. December 2, 2015 at 7:04 pm

    My thoughts and prayers are with the families, how about you Republicans get off your stupid asses and put an end to the easy access of those weapons that is just meant for the battlefield.

    • December 2, 2015 at 7:11 pm

      Now cause you are running for President, you want to act like you are so concern for the victims. If the Republicans and cowardly Democrats would do their job, and show more concern about the public, then they show for their job.

  10. 34 Nena20409
    December 2, 2015 at 7:04 pm

    • December 2, 2015 at 7:07 pm

      MSNBC reported that all three suspects were accounted for. One dead in the van. One rolled out of the van and was taken into custody, and a third was wounded and surrendered.

  11. 36 Nena20409
    December 2, 2015 at 7:05 pm

  12. 39 Nena20409
    December 2, 2015 at 7:08 pm

  13. December 2, 2015 at 7:14 pm

    Love the picture of FLOTUS giving the little girl a kiss. So sweet.

  14. 41 Nena20409
    December 2, 2015 at 7:16 pm

  15. 42 yardarm756
    December 2, 2015 at 7:41 pm

    Do we know if these shooters were Syrian refugees or not?

  16. 43 JER
    December 2, 2015 at 7:42 pm

  17. 44 JER
    December 2, 2015 at 7:45 pm

    From the NJ Bully…

  18. 45 99ts
    December 2, 2015 at 7:45 pm

    Meanwhile Trump is saying “Go the cops” – thinks it’s a football game

    • December 2, 2015 at 7:47 pm

      99ts! I keep missing you these days, how are ya doing?

      • 47 99ts
        December 2, 2015 at 7:54 pm

        The odd lurker – the downsizing & moving wiped me out – I chose a good time to miss all the news – but coming back in today – maybe I should have stayed away. But – its always lovely to see you and the TODers

        The ONLY thing the GOP can offer is prayers – which have worked so well in preventing massacres. We have many political problems, but I am thankful that we can still go to work, school, doctors and churches without the fear of being shot.

        The first post I saw today was FLOTUS and Christmas – and then the goodness of the 1st Family disappeared from the media to be replaced by NRA thugs and RWNJ haters. HAS to be the result of the GOP generating such hate over the past many years. The people reap what they voted for.

        • December 2, 2015 at 8:03 pm

          Is the moving all done now? Are you lodged in your new abode?

          Today? No words…..

          • 49 99ts
            December 2, 2015 at 8:11 pm

            We’ve moved – as MightyP discovered – its a culture shock. Mr 99 is trying to keep me sane. People who design fancy new units are all show and no substance – rather like the GOP – all prayer and no action.

            1st world problems – when I think what PBO is having to handle today – not really relevant.

            • December 2, 2015 at 8:21 pm

              My last move was 10 years ago – and I’m still recovering. So I feel for ya! Hope you settle in soon and it truly feels like home!

            • 51 GGail
              December 2, 2015 at 8:29 pm

              99ts, I know what you mean. I still have a couple of boxes that I don’t know where to put the stuff – it’s only been a year. 🙂

              • 52 99ts
                December 2, 2015 at 8:45 pm

                We still have 21 boxes at a friend’s place!! He has a big shed. All my furniture was too big – so we have a cabinet maker doing some new stuff (no-one sells small furniture) – that will probably take about 6 of the boxes – the rest??

                I now understand those who say they’ll go out in a box. I’m not thinking to move again.

        • 53 vcprezofan2
          December 2, 2015 at 8:39 pm

          ‘the downsizing & moving wiped me out’

          TS!!! I knew your silence had something to do with this (well, okay, I guessed when you were missing so long). 😀 Sure hope your settling in and acceptance of the new reduced space works way, way, way better than MP’s scenario!

          • 54 99ts
            December 2, 2015 at 8:48 pm

            Thanks vc – I do probably have more space than MP (about half size of our previous home) – 33 years since I last moved – seemed it was easy – guess youth and fitness have something to do with it – so stay fit if you intend to move 🙂

            • 55 vcprezofan2
              December 2, 2015 at 8:55 pm

              Phew! No moving plans on my part so don’t have to worry unduly about my (lack of real) exercise routine/fitness level. 😉

  19. December 2, 2015 at 7:45 pm

  20. 71 JER
    December 2, 2015 at 7:48 pm

    From the other Bully…

    • 72 99ts
      December 2, 2015 at 7:56 pm

      Like I said – thinks it’s a football game – weapons of sport.

    • 73 4morefor44
      December 2, 2015 at 7:56 pm

      how about we all agree to raise our taxes 2% so these police can have a little more financial security and healthcare, daddy’s boy trump?!? same for the “support our troops” republicans too! we can guess how that idea would go over with any republican today, but by all means, act like you care at sporting events, parades, and saying “thank you for your service” to any military person you see around, you evil, vile modern republicans. goes to any of the candidates, current elected, and voters. disgusting people.

    • 74 amk for obama
      December 2, 2015 at 8:18 pm

      good god. and this juvenile is leading the rethug field.

      the parroting of the same words by the rethugs resembles the jackboots marching.

    • 75 jacquelineoboomer
      December 2, 2015 at 9:11 pm

      Just another reality show to trump.

  21. 77 GGAIL
    December 2, 2015 at 8:15 pm

    I’m home safe and sound 😘

  22. December 2, 2015 at 8:23 pm

  23. 93 sherijr
    December 2, 2015 at 8:27 pm

    Like all of you I am just sick over this, all of it. I don’t have words anymore, I cannot understand any of it.

  24. December 2, 2015 at 8:29 pm

    If you’re not reading @igorvolsky, you really should be. Tweeting Congress members who’ve offered “thoughts and prayers” and how much money they’ve received from NRA.

  25. 97 arapaho415
    December 2, 2015 at 8:33 pm

    GE TODville.

    I’ve seen reports of what @latimes is reporting, and agree with LL the “fed” scenario makes no sense — this guy had buddies willing to go along with this horror and just happened have enough masks and vests for everyone? Why shoot (at least) over 30 people if you wanted to kill one person?

    Residents of the lockdown area in SanBerdoo are frantic (apparently 8 square blocks with dozens [hundreds?] of homes) because some family members are trapped inside while the others can’t get in.

    Focus now is in Redlands (where @JamesFallows grew up).

    Of course the loathsome Cilizza has to #blameObama.

  26. December 2, 2015 at 8:39 pm

    I’m having a hard time collating all the different reports, but possibly two of the suspects are female.

  27. December 2, 2015 at 8:45 pm

    This just gets stranger

  28. December 2, 2015 at 8:49 pm

    And more clear as mud statements.

  29. December 2, 2015 at 8:50 pm

  30. 104 tnmtngirl
    December 2, 2015 at 8:51 pm

    Can someone help me? I saw somewhere (?) the numbers of: Number of Americans killed by ISIS=4, Guns=30,000+ and I don’t remember what the third item was or the number. Would love to share that in a comment on FB. Thanks!

  31. 107 globalcitizenlinda
    December 2, 2015 at 8:52 pm

    wow, per police: a woman in camouflage is one of those 2 deceased suspects;

    I am watching and trying not to throw up with disgust

    • 108 arapaho415
      December 2, 2015 at 9:10 pm

      GE GCL.

      @MattDPearce seems to be the only national reporter who remembers the cold-blooded murders of Las Vegas police officers last year — having lunch at that working/middle class establishment, Chi-Chis:

      Those killers had ties to #BundyRanch, but national MSM have collectively swept that incident under the rug.

  32. 109 globalcitizenlinda
    December 2, 2015 at 8:58 pm

    from the information being reported about the San Bernardino tragic event, it seems to be a complex situation

  33. December 2, 2015 at 9:10 pm

    • December 2, 2015 at 9:12 pm

    • 112 4morefor44
      December 2, 2015 at 9:14 pm

      anonymous “feds”?!? yea, right. they know exactly what they’re doing with their fake “lead.” republican catnip online and in the public discourse. keep the crazy riled up. the modern republican is a diseased mind and soul.

  34. 113 Nena20409
    December 2, 2015 at 9:13 pm

    • 115 0388jojothecat
      December 3, 2015 at 1:19 am

      God didn’t list the 2nd amendment the founding fathers did and only. Congress can fix it, so stop praying and vote to ban these weapons of mass killing.

  35. 116 Dakota
    December 2, 2015 at 9:27 pm

    I know it’s being reported that this is possibly the result of a workplace dispute. I’m having a hard time with that theory because (1) the “disgruntled” employee leaves and comes back with others dressed in assault garb because of a workplace dispute? Usually in these cases, it’s a single shooter. (2) The people the shooter returned with could have been relatives/gang member associates. The police chief said that they were looking for and found an explosive device, that’s why they were so cautious about approaching the van after the suspects were killed. Gang members don’t usually deal in bombs. I will concede that it didn’t seem to be a very well thought out plan. If this was in fact the case, we will know everything very shortly. The PD will make known gang members and their families lives a living, breathing hell and trust me, people will squeal like pigs. (no offense to pigs).

  36. December 2, 2015 at 9:27 pm

    So I decided to respond to Bill Gates today. It’s been a while…

    .@BillGates Why not just dump algae into biodigesters, produce unlimited natural gas & recycle the exhaust? https://t.co/PqdTjx0QZ0— Ralph Cerchione (@Dry_Observer) December 2, 2015

    //platform.twitter.com/widgets.js

  37. 125 desertflower
    December 2, 2015 at 9:28 pm

    Trying to process this. AGAIN. I think we live in a country that suffers from severe cases of PTSD.

    • 126 jacquelineoboomer
      December 2, 2015 at 9:33 pm

      Seriously. I’m sick about it, myself. Tried not watching news today, tried to start a little Christmas decorating. Then to see this. Makes you want to get in the fetal position, thumb in your mouth, before you remind yourself you have to pull yourself up and keep pushing. I think we’ve all had the “ENOUGH” everybody keeps mentioning. And yet we’re mostly too worn down to take to the streets and demand new gun laws. PTSD.

  38. 127 jacquelineoboomer
    December 2, 2015 at 9:28 pm

    Of course, some of these first reports may or may not be true. But the plot will always thicken.

  39. 129 No Child Left Behind
    December 2, 2015 at 9:33 pm

    Good Evening TODVille.

    I don’t know what to pray for.

  40. 130 jacquelineoboomer
    December 2, 2015 at 9:37 pm

  41. 131 Nena20409
    December 2, 2015 at 9:38 pm

  42. December 2, 2015 at 9:40 pm

    Third one today…

  43. December 3, 2015 at 7:27 am

    My thoughts, your thoughts, our thoughts and prayers are with the Families involved, but is this what we keep doing everyday, every moment, every time gun violence happens. So we just simply say our thoughts and prayers are with the victims. Come on AMERICA, this is not good enough, it’s not solving the problem, we just sit and wait for another shooting? So we can give our condolences? Is this what AMERICA does, just give condolences???? Lord Jesus help us all


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