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  1. November 4, 2015 at 7:41 pm

    Sorry people, tied up with work, no time to post anything good, see ya tomorrow!

  2. 9 amk for obama
    November 4, 2015 at 7:44 pm

    furst.

  3. 14 JER
    November 4, 2015 at 8:00 pm

  4. 15 No child left behind
    November 4, 2015 at 8:02 pm

    Thank you Chipsticks for bringing us over. Bon courage.

  5. 16 FoxfireTX
    November 4, 2015 at 8:04 pm

    A question here. Am I the only one who is utterly offended that the title of Carson’s book is “A More Perfect Union”? I about fell out of my chair when I heard that last night. This has been PBO’s stock phrase since his 2004 convention speech, and to see it appropriated by this idiot is enough to make me sick. While PBO in fact has been fighting his entire political career to bring people together and make this country better, Carson seeks to divide us and make money off his various enterprises. I cannot believe even the Rs are buying into this given how it is attached to a Dem president. Apparently, there is no “bottom” for these candidates in terms of just how low they will go.

    • 17 globalcitizenlinda
      November 4, 2015 at 8:10 pm

      there have been other signs but this is further proof that the imbecile is very jealousy of PBO and very badly wants to be him;

      great thing is that the imbecile will never even make the footnote of history

    • November 4, 2015 at 8:10 pm

      Let’s put it this way. Deep down, the GOP envies President Obama, as a politician, as a father, as a spouse, as a constitutional lawyer, as a man, as a Black person.

      For them, Ben Carson represents in some perverted way the Obama they want, but can NEVER have.

      And yes, you have every right to be offended by that book title. The good news is that it will probably wind up in the $1 “bargain” bin by the holiday season….

    • 20 amk for obama
      November 4, 2015 at 8:14 pm

      you assume morals and scruples not in evidence.

    • 21 FoxfireTX
      November 4, 2015 at 8:26 pm

      I agree that they all envy his success although they would never admit it. And no, AMK, I do not believe that they have any morals or scruples:-) I find it hilarious that everyone talks about Carson’s honesty when in fact he has the worst record for truth telling of any of the GOP candidates at Politifact. But this just is so BLATENT. We have heard PBO use that phrase literally HUNDREDS of times since 2004. And now Carson is using it? I’m not sure how I’m going to make it through this election!

    • 22 99ts
      November 4, 2015 at 11:26 pm

      I was more disgusted with Trump’s book – the man who has no concerns that don’t relate to self dares to make such revolting comments about the country that has given him the life of the rich and famous. Makes one seriously want those pearly gates to be truth.

  6. 23 globalcitizenlinda
    November 4, 2015 at 8:07 pm

    Living 2 and a half hours away from Kentucky border, I work with a number of people from the Bluegrass state who have moved here in search for jobs.

    Many always comment how rough it has been making a living in KY but today I could not get into talk about the elections with them …. didn’t trust that I could remain civil

  7. 24 susanne
    November 4, 2015 at 8:09 pm

    Your tax dollars at work….

    ‘ Starting in December, the likeness of former Vice President Dick Cheney will grace the U.S. Capitol, in accordance with a Senate tradition honoring former vice presidents. ‘

    I’m pretty sure they used the word ‘grace’ facetiously, because the photo that heads the article is of the grim, snarling Cheney we all know and despise.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/11/04/dick-cheney-statue_n_8475456.html

  8. November 4, 2015 at 8:14 pm

    Good evening Chips & TOD!! Happy Wednesday everyone. 🙂 Congrats Don on 1st, amk on furst, and LL on frist!

  9. 34 susanne
    November 4, 2015 at 8:29 pm

    New slogan: Jeb can Exit.

    ‘ Jeb, on dad: “All he would have to say is ‘I’m disappointed in you’ and it would send me into a deep depression for days.” ‘

    This was his reply to a schoolkid who asked what it’s like to have a president for a father.

    http://www.mediaite.com/online/jeb-bush-tells-kids-his-dad-sent-him-into-a-deep-depression-for-days/

  10. 39 desertflower
    November 4, 2015 at 8:41 pm

  11. November 4, 2015 at 8:50 pm

    • 43 Don
      November 4, 2015 at 8:53 pm

      Thank you Bernie Sanders for forcing the State Department and ultimately President Obama to abandon the Keystone Pipeline Project.

      • 44 Sandy1110
        November 4, 2015 at 8:57 pm

        Don’t forget the BernieBots – they’re the ones who really hold Obama’s feet to the fire, as they like to say.

        If it weren’t for them sitting on their asses at their keyboards all day whining about what a disappointment he is, that corporatist do-nothing DINO Obama wouldn’t have accomplished a thing!

  12. 45 amk for obama
    November 4, 2015 at 8:54 pm

    hey canooks, better build that wall. or teh crazy might seep across.

  13. 46 Gazelle
    November 4, 2015 at 8:58 pm

    Thought you might like this, a beautiful reprieve, to go w/ dinner/lunch/breakfast prep, depending what time zone you’re in:

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  14. November 4, 2015 at 9:04 pm

    LOVE THIS! Something I do for my Mom all the time. It is such a pleasure to be able to do these things for someone who is selfless…

  15. 51 GGail
    November 4, 2015 at 9:19 pm

    Soooo, the cop they called “GI Joe” was actually a thief and then killed himself – after putting out a false call for Police backup. Whaaat?!!!!

    Upending the portrayal of Lt. Charles Joseph Gliniewicz as a hero tragically cut down in the line of duty as he neared retirement, authorities on Wednesday said the Fox Lake officer died in a suicide he staged to look like a murder as it became clear he could face consequences for years of alleged theft.

    Gliniewicz, 52, shot himself in a “carefully staged suicide” as it became clear that his “extensive criminal acts” could come to light during a review of village finances and practices, said George Filenko, commander of the Lake County Major Crime Task Force. Prosecutors, meanwhile, are continuing to investigate possible crimes by others that were revealed during the probe into the officer’s death.

    Gliniewicz ran the village’s Explorer youth police training program and he had been stealing money from it for some seven years, Filenko said. Gliniewicz stole an amount in the five figures and used the money for personal expenses, including mortgage payments, travel and adult websites, Filenko said.

    The announcement marked a sharp turn for an investigation that began Sept. 1 with hundreds of officers, as well as dogs and helicopters, searching for suspects who apparently never existed. In the weeks that followed, Lake County authorities downplayed the possibility that Gliniewicz took his own life.

    A 30-year veteran and fixture of the lakeside village, Gliniewicz was laid to rest after a funeral attended by thousands, at which he was portrayed as a selfless public servant who gave his life for his community. The lieutenant, a heavily tattooed Army veteran known to many as “G.I. Joe,” mentored many youths through the Explorers, and some observers portrayed his death as evidence of an escalating war on police.

    To the contrary, authorities said Wednesday, Gliniewicz staged his suicide as it became clear that he could face repercussions for using the youth program to facilitate his thefts. Text messages Gliniewicz had sent, which authorities revealed Wednesday, appeared to suggest threats against Village Administrator Anne Marrin. Investigators have also seen evidence that Gliniewicz had made contact with a woman linked to the Outlaws motorcycle gang to discuss the possibility of a gang member doing harm to Marrin, said multiple sources with knowledge of the investigation. The interest in harming the official is one of several areas of possible wrongdoing still under investigation, the sources said.

    PDF: ‘Officer down’; radio communications the day Gliniewicz died
    PDF: ‘Officer down’; radio communications the day Gliniewicz died
    Police also said Gliniewicz had forged documents to get equipment from a military surplus program.

    The day before he died, police said, Gliniewicz sent a text message voicing concern that he’d been asked for a financial report and inventory for the Explorer program.

    “Gliniewicz committed the ultimate betrayal to the citizens he served and the entire law enforcement community,” Filenko said. “The facts of his actions prove he behaved for years in a manner completely contrary to the image he portrayed.”

    Gliniewicz’s family members, who have insisted he did not kill himself, declined to comment on the allegations in a statement released through attorneys.

    “Today has been another day of deep sorrow for the Gliniewicz family,” the statement reads. “The Gliniewicz family requests that their privacy be respected as they continue to cope with the loss of the beloved husband and father.”

    The ruling of suicide could have serious financial consequences for Gliniewicz’s survivors, as the families of officers killed in the line of duty are eligible for benefits worth hundreds of thousands of dollars, experts have said.

    Photo gallery: Lt. Charles Joseph Gliniewicz, a 30-year veteran of the Fox Lake Police Department, conducted a “staged suicide” on Sept. 1, 2015, according to the Lake County Major Crime Task Force.
    His death will likely continue to reverberate. Lake County State’s Attorney Mike Nerheim said the results of the investigation have been turned over to his office, as well as to the FBI, for investigation of alleged crimes that are not related to Gliniewicz’s shooting but were uncovered during the inquiry into it. The FBI declined to comment.

    Leroy Marre, 79, of Antioch, a neighbor of the Gliniewiczes, said the news of the late officer’s suicide left him in shock.

    “What a surprise, from hero to criminal,” he said.

    The question of how Gliniewicz died has driven controversy since shortly after officers found him mortally wounded in a remote marshy area. Wednesday’s revelations left Filenko and others to answer pointed questions as to why authorities spent weeks discouraging the idea that Gliniewicz took his own life.

    “Our intention was never to mislead the public. We completely believed that this was a homicide,” Filenko said, adding that investigators came to believe in recent weeks that it was a suicide.

    About 8 a.m. Sept. 1, Gliniewicz radioed in that he was pursuing two white males and a black male. After dispatchers lost contact with Gliniewicz, responding officers found him shot, with his .40-caliber handgun resting nearby.

    That touched off a massive but fruitless manhunt followed by an investigation initially geared toward finding the trio Gliniewicz had described. Officers tracked down three men captured on video in the area, but then announced they’d been ruled out as suspects. Police never mentioned any other suspects as the investigation ground on for weeks and — with a dearth of information coming from authorities — rumors and vague information proliferated.

    On Wednesday, authorities laid out what they believed happened.

    Gliniewicz staged his death by leaving a trail of his equipment — including his pepper spray, baton and glasses — around the scene to try to mislead investigators, Filenko said.

    Gliniewicz fired one shot that hit his protective vest and cellphone and aimed a second, fatal bullet beneath his vest in his upper torso, authorities said. With the help of FBI behavioral experts, authorities concluded he’d shot himself, in part because he was not dragged after being shot and there were no physical signs he’d fought for his life.

    Marrin said questions about Gliniewicz’s management of the Explorer program began with a routine review of village departments that started after she was hired in 2014 as the town’s first professional administrator. When Marrin asked questions about finances, sought an inventory of the Explorer post equipment and inquired about parental consent forms, “no one seemed to have the answers,” she said.

    “There were various red flags,” she said.

    On Wednesday, authorities released text messages that appear to show Gliniewicz growing increasingly concerned toward the end of his life that his alleged improprieties would come to light. Texts, some of which went to people authorities did not name, show Gliniewicz seemingly trying to orchestrate an explanation for thousands of missing dollars. One message appears to suggest he’d considered harming Marrin.

    In a text exchange with an unnamed person, he wrote, “Trust me ive thougit through MANY SCENARIOS from planting things to the volo bog!!!” Volo Bog State Natural Area is an extensive marshy area near Fox Lake.

    The village’s police Chief Michael Behan retired in August, just after he and another officer had been put on leave pending an investigation into the department’s handling of an altercation between an officer and an arrestee in 2014. His retirement triggered further review of the department’s procedures and equipment, and a text message Gliniewicz sent to Behan at the end of August shows Gliniewicz was worried about that inquiry. Behan could not be reached for comment.

    The village has revealed very little about the findings of its reviews, and its generally failed to release records in response to Freedom of Information Act requests from the Tribune.

    Marrin said she supports the prosecution of any surviving person who committed a crime. She said the village is making changes to try to prevent something similar from happening.

    “You’ve heard today about a side of Lt. Gliniewicz that is in stark contrast to how he was previously portrayed in the community,” she said. “The community is the real victim, so let’s always carry that in mind.”

    Gliniewicz’s conduct had caused trouble for the village before, according to court records. In a federal lawsuit from 2003, a former police officer, Denise Sharpe Gretz, accused Gliniewicz, her former supervisor, of sexual harassment. The village’s lawyers acknowledged in court papers that the woman engaged in sex acts with Gliniewicz five times in 2000.

    The village’s lawyers admitted Gliniewicz was suspended for 30 days. Sharpe Gretz eventually left the department. She said Wednesday she was unhappy with Gliniewicz’s portrayal as a hero in the days after he died. Her lawsuit should have served as a warning about Gliniewicz, she said.

    “It just irritates me that he kept his job after what he did,” she said.

    Dan Hinkel is a Chicago Tribune reporter; Lauren Zumbach is a News-Sun reporter. Tribune reporter Lisa Black and News-Sun reporters Frank Abderholden and Dan Moran contributed.

    • November 4, 2015 at 10:17 pm

      Just unbelievable, GGail, just unbelievable. I’m getting whiplash from being jerked back and forth between the fact-based, thoughtful, moral, intelligent, loving, open, reality of the Obamas and whatever hellish, corrupt, lying, immoral, hateful, repulsive, threatening reality the Republicans and their ilk live in. I wish they wouldn’t keep inflicting it on us.

      • 53 GGail
        November 4, 2015 at 10:27 pm

        maryl1, this is what blows my mind – how easily his death could lead to this speculation…”and some observers portrayed his death as evidence of an escalating war on police”.
        Then reading everything that has come to light about this crooked cop

  16. 55 susanne
    November 4, 2015 at 9:39 pm

    Baby Pope!
    ‘ Rosalia’s parents, Brian and Laura, told BuzzFeed News they were touched the president found their daughter’s garb so cute, and have been overwhelmed by viral fame her costume has achieved. ‘

  17. November 4, 2015 at 9:53 pm

  18. 62 jacquelineoboomer
    November 4, 2015 at 10:09 pm

    Just watched a replay of a documentary on PBS World Channel, which was extremely well done. Sharing, as we near Veterans Day … and also during Native American Heritage Month. If you get a chance to watch it (believe it’s a couple years old, so you may have already seen it – I hadn’t), I highly recommend it.

    Healing the Warrior’s Heart

    http://www.westernfolklife.org/Healing-the-Warrior-s-Heart/healing-the-warriors-heart.html

  19. 63 jacquelineoboomer
    November 4, 2015 at 10:12 pm

    Here’s President Obama’s proclamation for Native American Heritage Month:

    “My Administration has continued to partner with tribes to address vital gaps in resources for Indian Country, including equipping communities with broadband, rebuilding infrastructure, spurring economic growth, and increasing renewable energy. To confront the peril of a changing climate, we are also working with tribal leaders across America to develop effective approaches to protecting our communities from this grave threat. And because we know that fostering pride in the languages, traditions, and practices that make up the extraordinary richness of Native American culture is central to our shared progress, my Administration remains committed to ensuring every community feels connected to the extraordinary legacies they are a part of … ”

    https://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2015/10/30/presidential-proclamation-national-native-american-heritage-month-2015

  20. 68 GGail
    November 4, 2015 at 10:33 pm

    This time change has NOT been of any benefit to me. I’m sleepy earlier, I can’t seem to wake up and now that it’s kinda cold outside, all I want to do is stay under the covers. I haven’t seen one program on television past 8:30 p.m. since the time changed.

    Damn!

  21. November 4, 2015 at 10:51 pm

    http://www.the guardian.com/us-news/video/2015/nov/05/michelle-obama-education-for-girls-we-need-to-let-them-fulfill-their-their-potential video

  22. 75 jacquelineoboomer
    November 5, 2015 at 1:43 am

  23. 80 susanne
    November 5, 2015 at 5:26 am

    Harry Reid seems to have sharper teeth, or maybe the shades just make him appear tougher. Love the way he lets it rip here:

    ‘ “Wow. Those were some really tough questions asked by the host of ‘Morning Joe.’ That’s sufficient journalism,” Reid said on the Senate floor, after reading excepts of the hosts asking the brothers if they play rugby together and whether their “graciousness” came from their mother.

    He continued: “Those questions are so easy, they may even qualify them to moderate the next Republican presidential debate.”

    Reid also said “most of the time there weren’t even questions. There were just compliments” during Scarborough and Brzezinski’s sit-down with the Kochs in the brothers’ hometown of Wichita, Kansas. ‘

    http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/harry-reid-morning-joe-koch

  24. 81 susanne
    November 5, 2015 at 5:51 am

    There’s sure to be more of this as the book promo unfolds, but it’s not to be missed. Bush Sr. slams Shrub, Cheney, Rumsfeld– here’s a taste:

    ‘ “He just became very hard-line and very different from the Dick Cheney I knew and worked with,” Bush said, speculating that 9/11 changed the Veep. “Just iron-ass. His seeming knuckling under to the real hard-charging guys who want to fight about everything, use force to get our way in the Middle East.”

    However, he also called Cheney “a good man,” and blamed his son for letting things get out of control. “The big mistake that was made was letting Cheney bring in kind of his own State Department,” Bush said. “I think they overdid that. But it’s not Cheney’s fault. It’s the president’s fault … The buck stops there.” ‘

    http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2015/11/hw-bashes-cheney-and-w-for-empowering-him.html

    • 82 globalcitizenlinda
      November 5, 2015 at 6:35 am

      ha! older shrub is letting it rip => about time

    • 83 jackiegrumbacher
      November 5, 2015 at 7:54 am

      In other words, George W was a weak president who couldn’t control his VP. He swaggered a lot, but did not have the strength or the brains to actually do his job. At heart, I think GW was lazy and did not like to bestir himself too much to read reports, understand the forces at work around him or exert himself to work too hard on behalf of the country he pledged to serve. We all knew he was an unqualified brat who skated in on his family money and name. That money bought him the 2000 election and also enabled him to escape responsibility for his actions throughout his whole life.

  25. 85 globalcitizenlinda
    November 5, 2015 at 6:54 am

    Good Morning Everyone!

    Have a fantastic day

  26. 86 desertflower
    November 5, 2015 at 7:55 am

    Morning everyone…maybe pretty soon some of the people will breathe a sigh of relief and the other part will be pissed and lied to:)
    http://talkingpointsmemo.com/dc/matt-bevin-obamacare-kentucky

    But the limitations that Bevin, a tea party favorite, will face in tearing apart the health care law that he and GOP lawmakers vehemently oppose show how deeply rooted the Affordable Care Act has become.

    “Obamacare is here to stay,” Pearson said. “At this point it’s going to be about how you deliver that coverage more efficiently and sort of modifying the flavor a bit, but none of it’s going to disappear.”

    Bevin’s plan to take on Obamacare’s footprint in Kentucky has involved two prongs: turning the state exchange over to the feds and rolling back Medicaid expansion.

    “Legally it can be done. The two big subsidy programs can be disrupted at a minimum and literally terminated at the worse,” said Sara Rosenbaum, a professor of health policy at George Washington University. “But the price that his home state residents will pay is extraordinary and whether there are political considerations that will stop that kind of all-out onslaught remains to be seen.”

    • 87 pkayden
      November 5, 2015 at 8:06 am

      Kentuckians were stupid enough to vote for Bevin, knowing clearly that he was a Tea Bagger, so I’m not sure why I should feel sorry for them. Elections have consequences and they’ve made their choice. Apparently, anti-gay and anti-Obama sentiments run amok in Kentucky.

  27. November 5, 2015 at 7:56 am

    For all the whiners and moaners and groaners and not good enough gold standard hawkers, the White House has just released the full text of the TPP:

    Please share with your communities. Ask them what they object to.

    • 89 desertflower
      November 5, 2015 at 8:02 am

      The WHOLE THING! 🙂 Good! There are some folks that I deal with on a local blog that I’d be happy to share this with:) Thanks a bunch, meta!

      • November 5, 2015 at 8:06 am

        You’re VERY welcome.

        So now Bernie Sanders, Hillary Clinton, Richard Trumka and all the weak Democrats who objected so strongly to the TPP can read every word. We must ask them to state their specific objections so we can see what they’re made of.

    • November 5, 2015 at 8:04 am

      The publishing of the TPP text starts the 60-day clock for public review before Pres Obama can sign it and submit it to Congress to approve or reject. There can be NO amendments. Remember, this was negotiated with 11 nations (Australia, Brunei Darussalam, Canada, Chile, Japan, Malaysia, Mexico, New Zealand, Peru, Singapore, and Vietnam) over a 5 years process and amendments would not be feasible.

  28. 93 desertflower
    November 5, 2015 at 8:08 am

  29. 94 desertflower
    November 5, 2015 at 8:12 am

  30. November 5, 2015 at 8:13 am

    So the questions that the media asking ben Carson is will you appear on Saturday night live? Then they said EVER?

    So then he rises above it now he’s a hero and tied with Hillary in the polls?

    And any policy discussions are manhandled by the RNC bullying reporters into these beanbag questions.

    Is this an upcoming election or is this a organized media Coup?

    • 102 SUEDUVALLSMITH
      November 5, 2015 at 9:31 am

      I PUT THIS ON MY FB…RIGHT WINGERS AT MY EX-CHURCH WILL BE SPITTING ALL DAY…ALL THEY COULD DO WAS KNOCK DOWN NATIVE AMERICANS WHEN I TOLD THEM WHERE I WAS HEADED…WAIT UNTIL GOD TELLS THEM WHERE THEY ARE HEADED…………………………………………………….NEXT………………………..

  31. 104 desertflower
    November 5, 2015 at 8:28 am

    Carson admires an follows the principles of this conspiracy theorist? WTF!
    http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2015/09/ben-carson-conspiracy-theory-cleon-skousen

  32. 105 SUEDUVALLSMITH
    November 5, 2015 at 9:29 am

    THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THIS…IT MAKES MY HEART SING…AND I DEARLY LOVE THE CARTOON!!!!


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