125 Responses to “President Obama And Vice: Fixing The System”


  1. 3 GGail
    September 29, 2015 at 2:51 pm

    jojo’s birthday has brought *ME* good fortune ๐Ÿ˜€

  2. 10 GGail
    September 29, 2015 at 2:52 pm

    Wooooooo and I get to view this video at lunch time – hot damn! Thanks NW!!!

  3. 12 Nena20409
    September 29, 2015 at 2:55 pm

    GGail has 2nd Gold โญ today ๐Ÿ˜‰ Congrats!

  4. 13 Nena20409
    September 29, 2015 at 2:56 pm

  5. 14 Nena20409
    September 29, 2015 at 2:59 pm

    ROFLMAO

    • 15 0388jojothecat
      September 29, 2015 at 3:32 pm

      Lolololol

    • 16 catrst
      September 29, 2015 at 3:49 pm

      It is a frivolous observation but Rand Paul looks more and more ridiculous with his curly rug. I don’t know if he has less time to arrange it, coif it whatever but it looks worse and worse and it makes me think of how petty and ridiculous he seems.

  6. 17 hopefruit2
    September 29, 2015 at 3:00 pm

    ROTFLMAO! If you need to go back to the early ’90’s to “dig up” stuff that is already known, while virtually ignoring this man’s tremendous service as VP during the last 6-7 years (which is by FAR a bigger and more accurate indicator of where he stands on any issue and what he’ll be like as US President), you’ve already lost your argument…

    • September 29, 2015 at 3:06 pm

    • 19 vcprezofan2
      September 29, 2015 at 3:07 pm

      It’s sad they don’t get that VPJoe has ‘grown/changed/matured’ over the years, while HRC hasn’t grown much in her approach (to campaigning).

      • 20 hopefruit2
        September 29, 2015 at 3:18 pm

        I think they do get it, but they’re hoping that the public doesn’t. And that’s why they’re deliberately skipping over his tenure as VP in the most recent years. Because it would highlight how much he has evolved on important issues – and they don’t want the voters to know that.

    • 22 GGail
      September 29, 2015 at 3:11 pm

      This is dripping with desperation. Hahahahaha!

    • September 29, 2015 at 3:22 pm

      This reeks of Bill Clinton to me.

    • 24 Vicki
      September 29, 2015 at 3:58 pm

      THIS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Ten million times.

    • September 29, 2015 at 4:39 pm

      The VP will have to address this obviously. It was a long time ago though. And his wonderful work with the Violence Against Woman Act will immunize him. He has made lots of friends in the community who works on the Violence Against Woman and I’m sure they’ll come out in defending him.

      In democratic circles, his work and his passion for that law and its implementation are WELL KNOWN. Hillary and Bill Clinton are VERY WELL AWARE OF HIS WORK. The Hillary team is playing dirty politics here. And they’re trying to scare him. Means THEY are scared. Big time.

      Disgusted, but not surprised.

      Last note: Unfortunate coincidence that the film about Anita Hill is coming out this year. I hope it’s a coincidence.

      • 27 jackiegrumbacher
        September 29, 2015 at 4:57 pm

        LP, Joe Biden is a very smart man who knows all the traps that are being set for him. I have no doubt that he will address every criticism head on with intelligence and sincerity. Our VP walked with PBO through all the unholy, outrageous, racist and ugly slurs and smears that were hurled against him. If he decides to run, he’ll know exactly what he has to confront.

  7. 28 vcprezofan2
    September 29, 2015 at 3:02 pm

    ๐Ÿ˜€ Oh, I hope this has been twigged so that I can actually see it! ๐Ÿ™‚
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    ๐Ÿ˜ฆ You gals/guys are taunting me – I *still* can’t see this! ๐Ÿ˜ฅ

  8. 33 hopefruit2
    September 29, 2015 at 3:04 pm

    Daddy Warbucks has served this President so well. ๐Ÿ™‚

  9. 35 Nena20409
    September 29, 2015 at 3:04 pm

  10. 36 57andfemale
    September 29, 2015 at 3:05 pm

  11. 37 Nena20409
    September 29, 2015 at 3:07 pm

    • 38 jacquelineoboomer
      September 29, 2015 at 3:26 pm

      Sure, why not. They can’t keep him from being a two-term President any more, their only reason for being, so why not kick the can down the road.

      What hypocrites. In fact, I even apologize to hypocrites, for the comparison.

    • September 29, 2015 at 4:46 pm

      Political theatre. Sorry I don’t believe McConnell will negotiate in good faith. This is all about “appearing” to negotiate. Then make it seems as if President Obama and democrats don’t want to compromise. Or, they’ll make them compromise on some things in order to make the “emoprogs” angry, and then they’ll get out the negotiations and will put the blame on the President .

      I am absolutely, absolutely convinced that McConnell only has politics in mind.

  12. 40 MightyPamela
    September 29, 2015 at 3:07 pm

    We stand witness to turning the corner to a better future. How exciting this is, could not have happened before The Age of Obama. Thank you, Mr Vice President, we walk beside you, and President Obama.

  13. 41 Nena20409
    September 29, 2015 at 3:08 pm

  14. September 29, 2015 at 3:15 pm

    • 43 jacquelineoboomer
      September 29, 2015 at 3:23 pm

      Joe Clancy put his whole heart and soul into (and showed up in the line of agents for) the Pope’s visit. I heard he’s Catholic, once wanted to be a priest, and some of his comrades already call him “Father Joe.” Nice “memory” of a job well done for him.

    • 46 GGail
      September 29, 2015 at 4:01 pm

      This man makes you love him more and more โค

  15. 47 jacquelineoboomer
    September 29, 2015 at 3:20 pm

    • 48 hopefruit2
      September 29, 2015 at 5:00 pm

      JOBoomr – this is an interesting bit of trivia that you mentioned in your tweet. I wasn’t aware that Tyson wanted to be head of NASA, and if that’s the case, then it explains a lot….a WHOLE LOT…

      • 49 jacquelineoboomer
        September 29, 2015 at 5:21 pm

        Here’s an early story on it … if I’m recalling directly, there was a distinct switch in his support for President Obama, when it wasn’t offered. Don’t quote me, but that’s what I remember!

        http://www.sciencefriday.com/blogs/01/31/2009/new-nasa-chief-neil-degrasse-tyson.html

        • 50 hopefruit2
          September 29, 2015 at 5:23 pm

          Hmm…interesting. Time will tell…many of his current followers/admirers may have no idea about this, but time will tell…

          • 51 jacquelineoboomer
            September 29, 2015 at 5:40 pm

            I’m not going to dwell on him any more today, but here’s a later article that shows the little bit of snarkiness about the President that I find unnecessary. I’ve overlooked all of it before, because he wouldn’t be where he is without his credentials and “out there” style, and has a lot going for him, but the Snowden thing did me in. The President would probably tell me to knock it off, but, hey … ๐Ÿ™‚

            http://www.mediaite.com/tv/neil-degrasse-tyson-we-didnt-ask-obama-to-intro-cosmos/

            • 52 hopefruit2
              September 29, 2015 at 6:23 pm

              Hmmm…I missed that article when it happened, but it’s interesting to know.

              • 53 jacquelineoboomer
                September 29, 2015 at 6:33 pm

                Like I said, I’m going off him, now. But I loved that guy and how he got young people involved in science, just like Carl Sagan did for him, long before Barack Obama became President, and this has been a big disappointment to me (and it’s “all about me”). He’s not the President’s biggest problem, but it’s a shame he’s cavorting with Snowden. Big time.

                • 54 hopefruit2
                  September 29, 2015 at 6:58 pm

                  Well-said JO’B. Hope he comes back to his senses soon. At some point anyone with half-a brain should be able to spot the inconsistencies in Snowden’s motivations…and Tyson should be man enough to work out his differences with PBO without resorting to childish tactics of hobnobbing with a traitor who has put this country’s safety at risk.

  16. 55 Nena20409
    September 29, 2015 at 3:22 pm

  17. 57 Nena20409
    September 29, 2015 at 3:27 pm

  18. September 29, 2015 at 3:31 pm

    In the past, the Obama administration has fiercely opposed the repeal effort. I’d like to see where the $87B in lost revenue will come from.

    Remember, the Cadillac Tax is a separate provision of ACA that creates a new tax on so-called “Cadillac” insurance plans provided by employers. Beginning in 2018, plans valued at $10,200 for individual coverage or $27,500 for family policies will be subject to an excise tax of 40% on the value of the plan that exceeds those thresholds. The tax will be levied on insurers and self-insured employers, NOT directly on employees. Again, this is an excise tax on 40% of the excess of the threshold, not 40% of the entire plan value.

    So why the tax? The overall intended consequence is to help lower costs over time. (One of the problems is overuse of โ€œCadillacโ€ health care benefits, which drives the cost up for the uninsured or those on other plans.) So I think some of the rationale for the Cadillac tax is based on some extensive studies that show high-cost health plans do not necessarily provide unusually rich benefits to enrollees.

    • September 29, 2015 at 3:36 pm

      Sorry, I meant to say $87 MILLION, not billion.

      • 62 Vicki
        September 29, 2015 at 4:05 pm

        She has also talked about eliminating the medical device tax.
        Repealing Obamacare piece by piece. Why doesn’t she run as a Republican?

        • 63 Vicki
          September 29, 2015 at 4:08 pm

          Bloomberg has made rumbles about a run. Perfect ticket. Third Way candidates. Rich assholes VS The People.
          Clintonworld must be very worried about VPB.

        • September 29, 2015 at 4:26 pm

          Yes, she’s also talked about doing away with the medical device tax on manufacturers. This was implemented in 2013 and brings in $38 billion in revenues over 10 years.

      • September 29, 2015 at 6:15 pm

        ARGH, I just double-checked this and I was right the first time. It’s $87 BILLION.

    • 66 57andfemale
      September 29, 2015 at 4:33 pm

      Excellent explanation, meta.

      I have friends with Cadillac plans and they definitely misuse the system. For every sinus headache my one friend gets, she gets an MRI. And I mean, there is nothing wrong with her head other than the sinus headache. I struggled for so many years with insufficient health insurance, and then none at all for awhile as self-employed. I was terrified if I had needed to go an ER and certainly did not see the doctors I should have been seeing through those years, so someone like her could get an x-ray if she had a hang nail.

      The purpose for Hillary’s stance on the Cadillac tax is to court unions who use better benefits as a negotiating tool. The large unions have been vehemently against this tax. I get that, certainly. And of course the effing NYT headline is gunning to create a narrative that Hillary is opposed to Obamacare in its present form.

      To be fair, I waited until I heard her proposals. And I heard Hillary just the other day make it clear that she wanted to improve Obamacare and make it stronger, after she praised it. Almost all of her proposals do just that. So this is NYT trying to make it look like she doesn’t support PBO or Obamacare. In this one instance, I’m defending Hillary.

      • September 29, 2015 at 4:38 pm

        How did she propose to replace the revenue? My worry is that over time, tinkering with revenue-based provisions in service of gaining election year votes undermines the core principles of ACA.

        I understand the bit about the unions. But that doesn’t help drive down costs. My feeling is we need to stick by that principle so that over the long run, we have a better system that is affordable.

        If she has a better way, then that’s great if all the details work out, including sustainable revenue.

        • 68 Vicki
          September 29, 2015 at 4:55 pm

          With you all the way, meta.
          It is too soon to be tampering with the revenue portion of Obamacare.
          To me, it is sawing the legs off the table, partly, not all of the way. Weakening the table while claiming you are restoring or improving it.

          Bill Clinton did that to our economy. We all know how that worked out for the middle class.

          • September 29, 2015 at 5:01 pm

            The details matter. PBO’s team crafted this thing carefully over the course of a couple of years. Doesn’t mean it can’t be improved but I do completely trust PBO and just saying that you’re going to “eliminate a tax” in an election year is red meat. So let’s see what she proposes this week and hope for the best.

      • 70 Vicki
        September 29, 2015 at 5:08 pm

        57, I know people who exploit the access they have, too.
        But I also know people who had no healthcare they could afford and count on, until Obamacare. That is what counts more to me.

        In order to make the deal work PBO had very tough choices. Pick at any one of them and you can make a case, sort of.
        Bernie is bellowing about being able to buy drugs in Canada where they are cheaper. Hard to argue with that.
        Someone, surely, will be squealing again about The Nebraska Exception, which was what was done to get Ben Nelson’s vote.

        The net effect of attacks against the ACA this early is sure to be a mistake.

        In Biden’s second term, or Bidens, VP first term, I’d suggest running on getting Medicare bargaining power to negotiate drug prices.
        Until we are safely back in the WH, my reccomendation is to stress the positives of Obamacare and ignore HRC altogether.

        • 71 57andfemale
          September 29, 2015 at 5:45 pm

          I completely agree. This particular provision was not just meant to slow the growth of health costs, but also to effing pay for the program, for which PBO and the Dems get ZERO credit. The unions, however, have used this provision to bludgeon Dem candidates, so I understand why Hillary is taking the position. It’s politics. It sucks, but Dems need the unions for this election. It would be nice if the unions understood what is at stake, however, and didn’t make this an issue. Sigh.

          This is not an “attack” on ACA – Hillary’s provisions move ACA in the right direction. Any major program needs this kind of tweaking. She’s not wrong, but this is what bothers me about Hillary: does she not know how this will be used against her and ACA?

          Bargaining on drug prices in Part D has to happen. Already, ACA is helping a little – closing the donut hole slowly and all generics are half price in the donut hole. But it is maddening, the way that bill was written by the GOP. Because of “retail” pricing, I will fall in the donut hole pretty early next year, when, for the blissful year and a half I had ACA, I had a decent co-pay on my medications throughout the year. Vicki, I’m a smart woman, I’ve worked for lawyers and let me tell you, maneuvering through this stuff is daunting as all hell.

          • 72 Vicki
            September 29, 2015 at 5:58 pm

            It is daunting. Very convoluted.
            Still
            HRC needs to find a way to win union support that doesn’t threaten the ACA. Surely there are other areas to focus on.

            Bernie—well, that is hopeless. His whole campaign isn’t helpful. I still hope that the people Bernie woke up will stay awake and vote for the eventual (D) which won’t be Bernie.

  19. 73 Nena20409
    September 29, 2015 at 3:33 pm

  20. 76 Nena20409
    September 29, 2015 at 3:43 pm

    So V. Putin comes to NY and delivers his speech at the UN…..for the 1st Time in 10 yrs…….then he askes for a meeting with Pres Obama and 24 hours later, Edward TRAITOR Snowden has a Twitter account and he tweets his attention seeking Tweet?
    Nothing Putin does is ever in a vacuum. I smell a Freaking Propaganda Rat. Gaming the world via Social Media is the only way Putin has to command attention and get US Media in fawning over him.
    My personal take on the matter.

    • 77 kid kanga
      September 29, 2015 at 3:45 pm

      excellent take. nothing Putin does is honest so why would any of this. his only card to play is snowden, , you are right, this smells like more than just a coincidence! smells more like a rat!

    • 79 Don
      September 29, 2015 at 4:23 pm

      Oh but don’t tell that to the Snowdenistas, they think this guy is some sort of hero.

    • 80 hopefruit2
      September 29, 2015 at 4:58 pm

      Yes, Nena – I agree that this has Putin’s fingerprints all over it! I’m just frustrated that so many people don’t seem to get that. Or perhaps they do, and have their own hidden agendas…

      • 81 Nena20409
        September 29, 2015 at 5:10 pm

        In_deed HF.
        They do have their Own hidden agendas.
        I lost whatever little respect I had for Charlie Rose when he out-right asked Putin if Pres Obama was weak Leader.
        No Journo worth his salt would have dared to ask a Foreign Head of State that type of question for any other of the past 43 POTUS…..Never….Ever.
        The belittling of Pres Obama by the 98% of the Caucasian Journos at every level is beyond wickedness. Their racial animus is 1001% over the top.

        • September 29, 2015 at 6:47 pm

          GAWD. Charlie Rose is such a jerk.

          Can barely stand to watch his BS show and only tune in when someone spectacular is on, which is rare these days.

        • September 29, 2015 at 7:05 pm

          Well, it’s unfortunate but 98% of the Beltway still subscribes to the idea that leadership = dominance. That diplomacy and compromise = weakness.

          They subscribe to the idea that the United States should be able to bully every country of this planet into submission. Even so-called reasonable and knowledgeable people are unconsciously addicted to the idea that the USA must be the ruler of the world.

          The world is changing, evolving. America has to navigate its place in this new world, has to demonstrate leadership in different ways.. Barack Obama gets it. He is the best thing that has happened to the United States in ages. And those fools don’t get it.

          I hope it won’t take another disaster with another “bully” as president for the Beltway fools to finally wake up.

  21. September 29, 2015 at 3:46 pm

    Argh, is there any link to this video otehr than this one? Because “the user has not made this video available in your country” ๐Ÿ˜ฆ

  22. 89 Nena20409
    September 29, 2015 at 3:56 pm

  23. 91 forus50
    September 29, 2015 at 4:04 pm

    CFWLuncheon is trending on Twitter! I just got home from it and it was fantastic with excellent speakers. I’m a member of the Advisory Council with the goal of helping underprivileged women and girls in Chicago reach their full potential.

    https://twitter.com/hashtag/CFWluncheon?src=tren

  24. 93 Allison
    September 29, 2015 at 4:06 pm

  25. 94 Nena20409
    September 29, 2015 at 4:07 pm

  26. 95 forus50
    September 29, 2015 at 4:07 pm

  27. 96 jacquelineoboomer
    September 29, 2015 at 4:22 pm

    Not sure if this has been mentioned. During a well-received visit to America, Pope spreads message of “justice and mercy.” Many of us join him in being against the death penalty, on moral and other grounds, which he also mentions during the trip.

    Pope asks for clemency for Georgia woman, facing the death penalty tonight. Today, the Georgia Board of Pardons and Parole denies the woman clemency, a motion filed via her attorneys.

    I would add a cryptic “so life goes on,” here, but – in her case – it won’t. Sorry to hear this, for many reasons, especially that her children have tried so hard to speak up for her, since they believe she totally turned her life around in prison. This isn’t a story about the Pope; it’s a story of how we seem mired in the same bad policies and really must get the laws changed in our country. Yes, maybe this person is guilty, but maybe the next person will be falsely accused.

    So life goes on.

  28. 97 Nena20409
    September 29, 2015 at 4:56 pm

  29. 98 Nena20409
    September 29, 2015 at 5:00 pm

  30. 99 Nena20409
    September 29, 2015 at 5:03 pm

  31. 100 Nena20409
    September 29, 2015 at 5:12 pm

  32. 101 vcprezofan2
    September 29, 2015 at 5:13 pm

    “A Shocking, Almost Certifiable Faith in Humanity”

    // …………………….

    In many ways, the President’s speech [at the UN GA] was an affirmation of an Obama Doctrine. He pointed out the failure of domination as a model for conducting both domestic and foreign affairs.

    “There are those who argue that the ideals enshrined in the U.N. charter are unachievable or out of date — a legacy of a postwar era not suited to our own. Effectively, they argue for a return to the rules that applied for most of human history and that pre-date this institution: the belief that power is a zero-sum game; that might makes right; that strong states must impose their will on weaker ones; that the rights of individuals donโ€™t matter; and that in a time of rapid change, order must be imposed by force.”

    Because of the interconnectivity of our world today, we have to work together in order to succeed.

    ………………………….. //

    http://immasmartypants.blogspot.ca/2015/09/a-shocking-almost-certifiable-faith-in.html

  33. 102 Nena20409
    September 29, 2015 at 5:20 pm

  34. 103 Nena20409
    September 29, 2015 at 5:26 pm

    That was fast……did I just listened to him at the United Nations?

  35. September 29, 2015 at 5:32 pm

    A photo the TOD Fam will appreciate…

  36. 105 Don
    September 29, 2015 at 5:45 pm

    So, are still voting for Hillary after she goes after the tax part of Obamacare?

    Asking for a friend.

  37. 110 idon
    September 29, 2015 at 5:54 pm

    While I watching the HBO Vice documentary, I was struck by the fact that every single inmate who particpated in the special was smart, articulate, and self-aware. I kept thinking to myself why are these in federal prison? I kept thinking maybe they used unknown actors because there was nothing about them that suggested “criminal” or “antisocial”. I kept imagining them going to work, helping their kids with their homework, playing basketball with their sons, or listening to their daughters talk about their latest science project. I saw men cooking dinner for their families, taking their moms or dads to the doctor or reading the Warmth of Other Suns. I kept thinking I’d love to read their stories in a book. I’d love to know more about that young man who was a straight A student in high school who ended up serving time in a federal prison. I hope Black Wealth steps up to help the AA brothers. But mostly I hope each of them writes a book because we all need to read and feel and understand what they have to say.

    • September 29, 2015 at 6:04 pm

      I was completely dumbfounded and disturbed by the fact that some of them have these HUGE bills when they get out, like that man who owned the little shop. How is he ever going to get ahead despite trying his best? And the man who couldn’t find a job but who still kept searching and submitting resumes every day. It just breaks your heart. The system is completely rigged against them.

      We need job training for them while incarcerated and a transition program when they get out that includes counseling and job mentorship. What we have now is a horrific cycle of despair that absolutely must be broken.

      • 112 GGail
        September 29, 2015 at 6:37 pm

        meta, I was surprised by the fees too. I had no idea that they had to pay for their incarceration- or at least half of the cost. How?

        You come out of the joint, they give you $40.00, you have ex-con stamped on your black forehead and the only skill you possess is how to calculate grams & the cost of that gram.

        What are you going to do?

        And while welding is a noble trade, technology is moving at a swift pace, we need folks coming out with other skills too.

  38. 113 JER
    September 29, 2015 at 5:57 pm

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  40. September 29, 2015 at 6:53 pm

    Emotional

  41. September 29, 2015 at 6:56 pm

    ohhhhh my gooodness ๐Ÿ˜ฎ

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