They thought they could control them


Yesterday, Jorge Ramos of Univision was unceremoniously escorted out of a Donald Trump press conference by one of the Hair’s goons, for daring to ask a question “out of turn”. Trump told Mr. Ramos to “sit down”, and then to “go back to Univision”. (I guess even The Hair wasn’t prepared to say “go back to Mexico, you wetback.”) Our brave press corps… did nothing. Journalists of conscience would have gotten up en masse and walked out right behind Mr. Ramos. I’m old enough to remember when the good and the great of the major media outlets rallied around Fox News when President Obama took off the gloves with them. Imagine if Pres. Obama had done something like this at one of his campaign press conferences, or, heaven forbid, at a presidential one. Calls for his impeachment would be hurling in 72 point type on newspapers and from well-coiffed news anchors.

However, even though I was going to write at length about this contretemps, I realized that the expulsion of Mr. Ramos is not the story. It is a mere manifestation of a much darker reality.

I mocked Trump (I refuse to be polite and call him “Mr.”). I thought he was the greatest thing to happen to Democrats since Dan Quayle. And, if by some malfeasance he does manage to be the GOP nominee, he lost the general election yesterday. The image of the Latino Walter Cronkite being frog-marched out of a press availability will galvanize the Latino community like nothing else. Not because Latinos are celebrity-mongers who will rally around Mr. Ramos, but because he and his treatment represent what Latinos fear the most from the GOP. Trump just handed the Latino community the symbol it needed, in a way which even his outrageous words didn’t.

But I’m no longer mocking him. I’m taking him very seriously. Because what may have begun as a lark is no longer that. It’s obvious that Trump is taking this campaign to heart, and is in it to win. And that should give everyone a good scare.

Frank Luntz, he of the “Don’t say ‘Ni-clang’, say ‘urban decay’,” held a focus group. His reaction to the results? “My legs are shaking.”

He discovered, to his horror, that Trump’s unabashed racism is resonating with an electorate long lied to by Republican elites. One participant said: “I think America is pissed. Trump’s the first person that came out and voiced exactly what everybody’s been saying all along. When he talks, deep down somewhere you’re going, ‘Holy crap, someone is thinking the same way I am.’” Another focus group member: “When Trump talks, it may not be presented in a pristine, PC way, but we’ve been having that crap pushed to us for the past 40 years! He’s saying what needs to be said.”

Oh, sure. They’re rubes. They’re stupid. We can laugh at them.

You know who else was laughing? The gentleman whose picture graces this essay.

Franz von Papen was the front man for the German reactionaries in Weimar Germany. They had a great idea: We’ll use the Nazis to roll up the Social Democrats and Communists, and then we’ll be in charge. They’ll be no trouble to control.

The Nazis were the rubes of interwar Germany. The rabble which had been lied to by men like von Papen. The rabble which was used to beat up socialists and communists and Jews.

Am I saying that Trump’s followers are like Nazis? Well, when you hear shouts of “White Power” emanating from his rallies, I’ll leave that for you to decide.

Am I saying that Trump is like Hitler? Well, when a candidate comes out with an immigration plan which sounds like a Final Solution for the undocumented, I’ll let you come to your own conclusions.

My larger point is this: the GOP elite, concerned only with their financial interests, turned to the religious right to power their campaigns. (Read here for a great rundown of how that happened.) They didn’t care about abortion, uppity women, the “black problem”, or “illegals”. They just wanted a reliable electoral block which would vote for them so that they could get down to the business of making rich people richer. But they never paid the religious right their salary. That this is true is shown by the fact that the right has basically lost the culture war. Gay marriage is the law of the land. A black man is president. The women’s movement is resurgent. And minorities are screaming out against oppression. Their world is gone. And they’ll make someone pay. You always hurt those closest to you; so now they’re turning on the ones who have lied to them, led them on, used them for 50 years. Just like von Papen, the Luntzes of the GOP thought they could ride the tiger indefinitely. Eventually, though, the tiger gets hungry, and doesn’t much care who it eats.

For mere pecuniary gain, the GOP elite let into power a segment of the US which had rightfully been marginalized, because it was literally bat-shit insane. Now this segment finally wants what it has been promised all these decades, and doesn’t much care who has to take it in the neck in furtherance of that goal. We have a psychopath leading the GOP field because men like the Koch brothers wanted to become even wealthier, so forged an alliance with a religious movement redolent of ISIS. Now that movement wants its moment. They can taste it. Trump is giving it to them.

I’m still 90% sure that, even if Trump does win the nomination, the GOP will be swept away in a wave not seen in American political history. But that 10% worries me. It worries me when I see it in right-wing movements over Europe. It worries me when I see it in nihilistic death cults like ISIS. And it worries me when I see it in my own home, my own country. Would my birthright citizenship be taken away? Would my mother’s naturalization be rescinded? Because that’s the logical conclusion of the rhetoric coming out of the Trump camp and the broader GOP.

The GOP is Pandora, opening a box which looked so pretty. What it released was the dark underbelly of America, so much so that it is now accepted political discourse. I just hope the rest of us are resolute enough to beat it back. I fear the consequences if we don’t.

107 Responses to “They thought they could control them”

  1. August 26, 2015 at 5:14 pm

    Perfectly stated, LL. I cannot fathom how we got to such a horrific ugly place with no release valve in sight. It’s a very dark hour in America.

      August 27, 2015 at 8:55 am


  2. August 26, 2015 at 5:16 pm

  3. 10 Linda
    August 26, 2015 at 5:19 pm

    I remember Jerry Falwell saying that after he helped get Saint Reagan elected, Reagan refused to take his calls and would not meet with him.

  4. August 26, 2015 at 5:26 pm

    Brilliant stuff LL!

    I fear e-voting machines will overwrite the will of the people.

    • 13 hopefruit2
      August 26, 2015 at 5:40 pm

      The Diebold machines – they need to be monitored very carefully. Or replaced…

      • 14 idon
        August 26, 2015 at 6:02 pm

        Yep. The GOP plans to steal this election up and down. I wonder if there’s an app to submit electronic vote to international monitoring body.

      • August 26, 2015 at 6:05 pm

        We need to get RID of them. It’s not just the machines, it’s the servers the totals are stored on, and the totals easily flipped.

    • August 26, 2015 at 5:51 pm

      I also have that fear. Read an article earlier today about what is going on in Kansas with a mathematician trying to get the paper records from voting machines to compare the numbers FOR REPUBLICANS in past elections. The guy is being stone-walled and fought at every turn. E-voting is a great fear of mine because they know it’s the ONLY way they can win.

  5. August 26, 2015 at 5:26 pm

    Very well stated. Thanks LL

  6. August 26, 2015 at 5:31 pm

    • August 26, 2015 at 5:41 pm

      Will Trump repudiate his many racists supporters who is just like David Duke?

    • 21 idon
      August 26, 2015 at 6:02 pm

      Don’t retweet

    • 22 Nena20409
      August 26, 2015 at 6:46 pm

      I have just read a tweet that Trump was asked for his favorite Bible Verse and he couldn’t name one……
      And Jesus, wept?
      But to his followers, that would not matter.
      They want to Make America White Again…….that simple.
      Wake up Lefties………as that Rolling Stone Article by Matt Taibbi wrote……..It has stopped being Funny.

        August 27, 2015 at 9:00 am


  7. 30 hopefruit2
    August 26, 2015 at 5:46 pm

    Excellent piece LL – thanks for posting!

    Congrats Bill R on #1.

  8. August 26, 2015 at 5:47 pm

    Nothing wrong with out planet. Nope, nothing at all.

    • 32 MightyPamela
      August 26, 2015 at 6:34 pm

      Only the beginning

        August 27, 2015 at 9:03 am


  9. August 26, 2015 at 5:49 pm

    Chilling, heartbreaking absolute truths, powerfully told. Thankful for your insightful clear voice, LiberalLibrarian. Thankful for TOD where you can share it.

  10. 35 Niliathiel
    August 26, 2015 at 5:52 pm

    Interesting article even though I am always a bit iffy about historical comparisons.

    A little more background on Franz von Papen though, not intended as criticism to this essay but merely in case anyone wants to know it from the source – the nerdy smartass German history teacher 😉

    Franz von Papen was chancellor in the republic of Weimar, he was actually the second to last before Hitler.
    In 1930 the so called Grand Coalition of Democratic parties had broke over a trifle question concerning pensions leading to the problem that there was no longer the chance of a government based on a majority.
    According to the German Constitution this was not a necessity since the parliament was elected by the people but was depndent on the goodwill of the president who could dismuss parliament if he so pleased (which meant new election within 60 days)
    So basically after 1930 there were minority governments, put to poer by the president because they got no majority.
    There was chancellor Brüning, vastly unpopular because of his severe austerity politics
    There was von papen,his cabinet mocked as “the cabinet of lords” because it was so full of monarchist elites.
    And then there was Schleicher, the last chancellor who only lasted a few days,

    So there are a few things that are important to know about 1930-January33:
    – von papen, evne though he is mentioned as the guy who vastly underestimated Hitler here, was one of the people sabotaging the Republic. The Constittuin did not protect democracy in a way that it forbid parties that were anti constitutional meaning there were not just social democraty, conservative dmocrats, liberals etc., bu also the communist party on the far left and the nazi party on the far right plus monarchist right wing parties. In short, von Papen, just like many of his poltical colleagues, had no love for the Republic and was not toooooo against makind use of that popular little loudmouth that seemed to intrigue people

    – ever since the majority governments ceased to exist in 1930 Hitler was pushing for power. there were the three last chancellors, annointed and kicked out by the president (a democratically elected president of a republic, but since 1925 that was president Hindenburg, a monarchist, following a democrat who had helt the office since 1918/19) Hitler´s argument was that the nazi party had gained so much popularity tht it had a right to form a government with him as chancellor. Hindenburg turned Hitler down, three times, before appointing him chancellor in January 1933 after he kicked out Schleicher

    Papen´s remark of “taming Hitler” can only be understood against the backdrop of the Constitution of Germany back then:
    – the chancelor was a weak position, not elected, but appointed by the president who could also kick him out again. Hindenburg had proven that with the last three

    – “taming” Hitler refers to the concrete fact that Hitler was only allowed 2 more nazis in his cabinet, the others secretaries and minsiters were conservatives. There is a quote something like “we´re going to push him against the wall until he squeals”. didn´t work out, mostly because Hitler managed to use the loopholes in the imperfect German Constitution to make himself sole leader within a year (but that´s another story, if anyone is interested)

    So…the comparison or allusio works to some extent, but not completely.
    Again,t his is not meant as criticism but I thought it might be useful to provide some background. Force of habit. 🙂

    • August 26, 2015 at 5:56 pm

      Not addressing your points, which are excellent, but have a question for you: Have you read “Swansong 1945” by Walter Kempowski? Am in the middle of reading it, and it is an amazing book.

      • August 26, 2015 at 5:59 pm

        I have to admit I haven´t, no. it rings a distant bell though. What is it about exactly?

        • August 26, 2015 at 6:00 pm

          Basically it’s a collection of journal entries, speeches, memos, etc, from 4 specific days at the end of World War II, giving a from-the-ground view of what was happening as the Reich finally collapsed. It’s an amazing form of collage. It’s his first book to be translated into English.

          • August 26, 2015 at 6:03 pm

            I just googled and it sure sounds interesting. Btw, if that part of German history interests you and you like a german p.o.v. (which indirectly is quite telling aboutt he by now advanced state of German “Vergangenheitsbewältigung” (dealing with the past)I would recommend the movie “downfall” which is excellent.

            • August 26, 2015 at 6:20 pm

              Oh, please, “Downfall” is one of the greatest movies ever made. My favorite movie of all time is another (West) German movie, “Wings of Desire”.

              Now that I think of it, I may have to watch both again this week. Been too long since I’ve seen them.

    • August 26, 2015 at 5:59 pm

      All useful information, Niliathiel, thank you. And, I appreciate the spirit in which you presented it.

      As to – “…. mostly because Hitler managed to use the loopholes in the imperfect German Constitution to make himself sole leader within a year (but that´s another story, if anyone is interested)”

      I am. So, when you have time please post the details.

      • August 26, 2015 at 6:12 pm

        Basically he did it in steps. Right after he was made chancellor, he talked presdent Hindenburg into dissolving the Reichstag (German congress at the time) because since Hitler´s party was on the rise he hoped that another election would give him more nazi delegates to work with. What followed was a brutal campain, street fights etc. (some historians call the time between WW1 and 1933 a civil war. i support that to some point. The parties, not justt he nazis, but also the monarchists, the communists and the democratic block had their own private armies, and they were causing terror in the streets in early 1933 as they had before.

        In Febuary, during the campains, the parliament building was set aflame. it´s still unclear who did it, the nazis blamed the communists and used that as an excuse to abolish the communist party, a move that was supported by president Hindenburgh because Hitler was just the chancelor and unlike the president he could not suggest laws (and dissolve parliament if they voted against his will)

        communists went underground as the civil war like capaign continued. The election results showed that Hitler´s party was slightly on the retreat already, but the fire in the parliament was an excuse for a new law, the so called “law to protect country and state” which harshly infringed on civil rights.

        Next step: Hitler wants legislative powers, so he makes a big show in potsdam, a whole day with flags and speeches (and intimidation for non nazi party representatives), signaling the passing of power from the old to the new generation. he also started advertising for a new law, the so called “law of empowerment” which would mean that not only the president can suggest laws, but also the chancellor.

        had the parties acted in unison against hitler, this law would never have been put into practice. but a mix of terror on the streets and fear made the conservative democrats apprve of teh law when it was brought beforeparliament and they were the ones that called the decision. after that Hitelr had legislative powers.

        when Hindenburgh died in 1934 Hitler used that power to suggest in a law that instead of new elections for president the offices of president and chancellor would be combiend into one, called “leader and chancellor”

        the election campaign that followed thats suggestion (because parliament had to vote on it) was no real election any more. more and more parties were abolished, Hitelr became leader and chancellor and the nazi party was established as the only German party.

        • August 26, 2015 at 6:38 pm

          Excellent synopsis and entirely consistent with what I’ve gleaned from various readings over the years. Really appreciate your taking the time to post it, niliathiel. Thank you!!

        • 45 99ts
          August 26, 2015 at 10:04 pm

          Many thanks for both your posts. I did – years ago – know much of this – but your succinct explanations are second to none – explaining very clearly how a democracy can go seriously wrong – while – in theory – working within the rules.

          And it also creates massive concern about “Make America Great again”

          • August 27, 2015 at 9:59 am

            “…while – in theory – working within the rules.”

            Well, i think what has to be added here and that is meant to console you people, is taht there is a huge difference between a modern democracy such as that of the US and the Republic of Weimar, as Germany 1919 to 33 is referred to, especially when it comes to the constitution which allowed Hitler to rise to power. Some weaknesses:

            – the president was too powerful
            – there was no mechanism to protect the constitution. Not only could the president simply temporarily abolish basic civil rights without even asking parliament for its agreement, but also there was no limit for which parties were allowed. A party could be openly anti constitutional, no problem.

            Also, the circumstances need to be considered:
            – a massive economic collapse resulting in unemployment rates taht are unparalleled (1929)
            – a society where anti semitism had deep, deep roots.
            – a society with zero experience in how to be a democracy.

            In short: even though there might be parallels in particular in the recklessness of some of Trump´s supporters, the circumstances etc. are vastly different.

            • 47 99ts
              August 27, 2015 at 10:11 am

              I’m not totally convinced – but thanks again for the explanation. The republicans have been screaming since PBO was elected that the only law that matters is the constitution, then when Trump says the 14th amendment doesn’t say what it should say & there is no reason that it should be followed, they are all agreeing! Too often, in pursuit of power, people will attempt to change the rules and in the US this is often done via the Supreme Court re-interpreting “the rules”.

              Too much nationalism from any country is warmongering by any other name – and this is also what Trump is activating among his supporters. Just my thoughts – when people follow a leader without thought for the consequences, without understanding what are his/her policies, without that leader having any coherent policies – I become concerned, whether it be the USA or any other country.

    • August 26, 2015 at 6:10 pm

      Can’t help myself. 😉
      Franz Joseph Hermann Michael Maria von Papen zu Köningen

    • 52 sjterrid
      August 26, 2015 at 6:14 pm

      Thanks, Niliathiel, for expanding and giving more history on Von Papen, and what was going on in Germany from 1930-33. History was always one of my favorite subjects in school, many moons ago.

  11. August 26, 2015 at 5:54 pm

    Interesting factoid ….

    • 54 Vicki
      August 26, 2015 at 5:59 pm

      Saudi Arabia, Israel, USA MIC an unholy alliance.
      The Iran deal ruckus is not about nuclear bombs. Much less, any danger to Israel.
      This triumverate of war profiteers is the heart of the matter.

  12. 55 Vicki
    August 26, 2015 at 5:55 pm

    Sadly, You are on to something in this extraordinary piece, Liberal Librarian.
    Trump is dangerous. Definitely to the GOP. Reince who? All his power has been usurped.
    Roger Ailes? I don’t know how much he matters anymore, but we will all find out.

    I think The Donald also hurts corporate dems. DNC dogwhistles are Trump loudspeakers. If racist white privilege is your thing, Trump gives it to you unvarnished.

    The only message that can counteract the virulent racist hate and fear and entitlement is the plan offered by the inclusive Obama Coalition.

    The way out of the hate, America, is via the door.

    This way, please. Follow POTUS and elect VPOTUS for another healthy constructive term. Equality of opportunity on a level playing field for all of us. Welcome to immigrants. healthcare, peace, women’s rights, marriage equality and pay equality for all, deficits reduced by 2/3 millions and millions of new jobs, significant drop in unemployment numbers—-on and on and on.

    Not complicated.

    Couldn’t stop us in 2008 and 2012. Won’t be able to stop us in 2016 either.

    • August 26, 2015 at 7:48 pm

      I hope Joe Biden runs. He’s a better antidote to Trump than Hillary is. He looks like a “traditional” president, white, fatherlike, reassuring, down-to-earth. Among those seduced by Trump, there are independents that are longing for a “protector”. They are afraid of this changing world.

      Barack Obama had to “save” America from the abyss, and had to push full speed to make America enter the 21th century after a lost decade under Bush. President Obama had no choice but to force people to grow up, to look at all the challenges and accept that big changes are necessary. This wasn’t easy for certain segments of the american society. Evidently, the elephant in the room is the fact that he is a black man who became president in an era where white americans realize they won’t be in the majority for long now. Finally, the right-wing propaganda machine has peddled fear and negativity non-stop during all those years.

      That’s why I think a daddy figure like Joe Biden is what is needed right now. Oh… Mr. Biden would continue the work of President Obama, and push for change too. But people who are so easily afraid could accept the leadership of Joe Biden. I’m not talking of course about the rabid republican base. I’m talking about some moderates, independents who “follow the wind”, who may even have voted for Barack Obama in the past… but are in danger of being fooled by Trump’s populism. Apparently there have been cases. And THAT’S what making me very nervous.

  13. August 26, 2015 at 5:59 pm

    Thanks LL. You are wise beyond your years. Great writing, I envy your vocabulary.

  14. 59 donna dem 4 obama
    August 26, 2015 at 6:06 pm

    Another masterpiece LL!

    They have unleashed the beast and the media has gone stark raving mad in their coverage of him.

    It’s the 10 percent that scares me as well. I stated here on Monday that I will no longer say that he cannot win the Republican nomination. After seeing what a farce our feckless media has become I have succumb to the realization that anything is possible.

  15. 60 sjterrid
    August 26, 2015 at 6:15 pm

    Outstanding work, as usual, LL.

  16. 61 MightyPamela
    August 26, 2015 at 6:23 pm

    LL – all of this! ^5 ^5

  17. 62 hopefruit2
    August 26, 2015 at 6:27 pm


  18. August 26, 2015 at 6:29 pm


    • 64 donna dem 4 obama
      August 26, 2015 at 6:36 pm

    • 65 Nena20409
      August 26, 2015 at 6:55 pm

      The same media cheered Major Garrett. Cheered Bill O’Rielly when he interviewed Pres Obama during 2 different Super Bowls. They Cheered Chuck Todd for his rudeness. All White males disrespecting Pres Obama.
      Jorge Ramos should Know his Place before Trump is the collective NY/DC signal.
      Racism in US News Media is beyond comprehension.

  19. 66 hopefruit2
    August 26, 2015 at 6:41 pm

  20. 68 Diane Helland
    August 26, 2015 at 6:44 pm

    Excellent LL and thank you. I became scared a month ago when I realized T was in it to win it. He has the practice as an entertainer with our hopeless media, unlimited resources and decades of the GOP,s hate campaign. A new Gravis dis poll just came out withere him at 40%. The next closest is Carson at 13. While this is a R polling firm, the sample size was 3200 plus. I believe there is a very good hands he will be the R nominee and that is too close for omfort. In addition, yesterday he hired significant staff in all the early states.

    • 69 99ts
      August 26, 2015 at 10:10 pm

      When Carson is coming 2nd in a GOP poll I have serious doubts about the poll. NO WAY is Carson going to be a GOP favorite

  21. 70 hopefruit2
    August 26, 2015 at 6:50 pm

    • 71 Nena20409
      August 26, 2015 at 6:57 pm

      If Suicides are counted, We The People kill one another with guns yearly……60K in number.
      Yep, pretty pathetic American Exceptionalism nonsense.

      • 72 99ts
        August 26, 2015 at 10:12 pm

        One of the major benefits of the strong gun laws in Oz was a large reduction in suicide deaths. (And there is still a gun lobby trying to bring back the guns)

  22. August 26, 2015 at 6:53 pm

    Chilling Essay….about what could be….

    I am so hopeful that PBO will once again save us…rally us…give us hope and show us that WE ARE THE CHANGE WE SEEK!

  23. 74 JER
    August 26, 2015 at 6:57 pm

  24. 76 jacquelineoboomer
    August 26, 2015 at 6:58 pm

    Excellent piece, LL. Now, my legs are “shaking.” Not that they weren’t already.

    We’re doomed.


  25. 77 Nena20409
    August 26, 2015 at 7:00 pm

    This Post LL is truly Brilliant.
    Thank you.
    Our bts are off the charts this week. It’s ONLY Wednesday!
    TOD Rocks!
    Congrats Bill R. on your Gold ⭐

  26. 78 sherijr
    August 26, 2015 at 7:09 pm

    Thank you LL, you are so right on here.

  27. 79 idon
    August 26, 2015 at 7:10 pm

    Great great piece. And yes, we need to take the leader of the white nationalist party aka NAZI party very seriously. On VOTER REGISTRATION DAY – TUESDAY, SEPTEMBER 22, 2015 let’s have a massive turnout – I mean massive because we are gonna need it!

  28. August 26, 2015 at 7:16 pm

    you are absolutely on point.

    they made this. they have to deal with it.

  29. 81 JER
    August 26, 2015 at 7:20 pm

  30. August 26, 2015 at 7:24 pm

    Huge thanks to LL and Zizi both today’s outstanding pieces, we’re bless to have you both as BTs!

  31. 87 Nena20409
    August 26, 2015 at 7:26 pm

  32. 88 JER
    August 26, 2015 at 7:32 pm

  33. August 26, 2015 at 7:35 pm

    • 90 Vicki
      August 26, 2015 at 7:38 pm

      Not encouraging……………

      • August 26, 2015 at 7:45 pm

        I don’t read it that way, Vicki. I think this is vintage Joe Biden – telling it exactly how it is. But, it’s the strongest, most direct statement yet from him that he’s actively considering doing it. At this point, I’d be floored if he stated it any differently.

      • August 26, 2015 at 8:15 pm

        If this quote is accurate, it doesn’t sound at all encouraging to me either. This is not how you launch a campaign, by saying you’re not 100% sure. He’s not the kind of guy who would put himself at such a disadvantage right out of the gate. He’s speaking from his heart and I’m hearing he’s not convinced. My question is, who on the DNC leaked this and why? Who does this help?

        On the other hand, he’s indicating it’s still an open question. He may just be airing concerns that are foremost in his mind right now and he will know more when he meets with fundraisers during Labor Day weekend.

        I’m feeling heartbroken at the moment. I really hope Im just overreacting.

    • 96 idon
      August 26, 2015 at 7:51 pm

      CNN? uh huh

  34. August 26, 2015 at 7:43 pm

    msnbc downsizing Rev AL

  35. August 26, 2015 at 7:55 pm

  36. 104 No Child Left Behind
    August 26, 2015 at 7:58 pm

    Zizi and LL, thank you very much for these posts, which are intellectual stimulation. Very thoughtful analysis and prognosis. From laughing at his hair, I now begin to take his unique face at value. With so many angry white people behind him, The Donald can pull an upset to the entire GOP clown inventory.

    So long I have decent health, I will campaign like I did twice (and for the first time in my life) for POTUS. As long as my legs can walk (in 2013 for a moment, they wouldn’t), I’ll travel to swing states to canvass.

    We must win this, even if by one hair.

  37. August 26, 2015 at 8:12 pm

    Let’s put this bluntly…hate is immoral. And anyone who fans the flames of hatred is acting immorally. That’s why Rev. Barber is right when he says that, “It’s a necessity for the destiny of our democracy that we realize that we have to look at public policy through the moral lens of justice for all and through the Constitutional principle of the common good.”

  38. 106 99ts
    August 26, 2015 at 10:17 pm

    LL – a great post – now I’m heading back to find the post from Zizi

  39. 107 Dudette
    August 27, 2015 at 2:07 am

    Ll, duuuuude!

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