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Emanuel African Methodist Episcopal Church, Charleston (Photo by Brendan Smialowski)


102 Responses to “Chat Away”


  1. June 23, 2015 at 6:01 pm

    The HBC(Florida fans know this reference) speaks:

    Steve Spurrier is the biggest public figure and most revered in the entire state of S.C.

  2. 2 GGail
    June 23, 2015 at 6:03 pm

    LP, I think I know what your problem is – you try to cram too many tweets into one comment. WP is trying to break you of this bad habit 🙂

    • June 23, 2015 at 6:10 pm

      I’m sorry I couldn’t hear you…being 2 minutes behind and all 😀 😀

      There is no rhyme or reason with WP….I think it just discriminates because I’m Indian and makes me pay for all of AMK’s bad deeds :mrgreen:

      • 4 GGail
        June 23, 2015 at 6:16 pm

        You berry funny guy 🙂
        Congrats!

        Oh no, buddy, you are paying for your own bad deeds and maybe a few of his 😀

      • 5 amk for obama
        June 23, 2015 at 8:50 pm

        didja try these?

        Step 1: Shut down your ‘puter.

        Step 2:

        you owe me 100 bucks.

        • June 23, 2015 at 9:08 pm

          MF….you got jokes huh?

          • 7 amk for obama
            June 23, 2015 at 9:14 pm

            heh, sometimes you gotta do whatchu gotta do. take down the flag ‘puter.

            Srsly though, I would try these since I am sure my browser has been hijacked (google bho).

            1. Shut down ‘puter and restart. This normally gets rid of many junk.
            2. Download and Run Ccleaner. It removes all the cache junk. No doing it from your browser doesn’t cut it.

            3. Download and run malwarebytes, spybot search & destroy and superspyantiware. Yes katie, all of ’em.

            4. The above should keep ya off innernetz for what, 3-4 hours? win/win.

            • June 23, 2015 at 9:23 pm

              I’ve done all those except malwarebytes…somehow I got got everything working today on FireFox and Chrome is giving me notifications if I’m in reader mode…the only hang up is when I’m TOD website there is no notification bar and have to login 2x per comment.

              • 9 amk for obama
                June 23, 2015 at 9:26 pm

                are you using ad-block plus? If yes, mebbe you put in there some blocks for tod?

                • June 23, 2015 at 9:48 pm

                  I removed the two new extensions I added since the problem started. Tempted to reset completely to default chrome settings if I don’t get this figured out soon. The last comment I posted was through Chrome on iPad and everything works fine on TOD site. Only laptop & desktop having issues. The stupid thing is I can go to TOD admin and it works (notifications just today) but as soon as I go to “view” a post the notification bar disappears and I have to do the login 2x B.S. Makes no sense…I can post from reader in the preview reply box w/o having to re-login….all problems start as soon as I got to TOD site in Chrome only.

          • 16 amk for obama
            June 23, 2015 at 9:16 pm

            btw,

            bho ≠ barack hussein obama

            bho = browser hijacking objects

            class dismissed

  3. June 23, 2015 at 6:05 pm

    How Bush lackey portrays a story

    Compared to the author

    • 18 GGail
      June 23, 2015 at 6:17 pm

      And they both take you to a very wonderful podcast

    • 19 vcprezofan2
      June 23, 2015 at 6:57 pm

      My head hurts trying to listen to that guy on the 30sec clip! I get main points when they are made calmly. Just saying

    • 20 99ts
      June 23, 2015 at 7:41 pm

      So the media says the ONLY thing covered in the podcast was race & there was really only one word in the whole interview that mattered. Racism is well supported by the US media.

      • 21 carolyn
        June 23, 2015 at 8:03 pm

        I listened to the entire interview last night. The part the media picked out is such a small, calm, soft part of the total. I hope thousands of people listen to the entire interview…..they will learn quite a bit…..about PBO and about current politics.

  4. June 23, 2015 at 6:19 pm

    GOP all of a sudden having come to Jesus moment…..

  5. June 23, 2015 at 6:33 pm

  6. 32 forus50
    June 23, 2015 at 6:33 pm

    Whatever their ulterior motivations the Rethugs going along with now getting rid of this Confederate crap is a good thing. Of course none of them will do the same on getting guns so all this is barely more than symbolic.

    • 33 0388jojothecat
      June 23, 2015 at 7:17 pm

      It dawned on me this morning they would rather give up the Confederate Flag than guns…….who gives them money for having a Confederate Flag…who gives them money to not have any control legislation?

      • 34 susanne
        June 23, 2015 at 8:24 pm

        interesting, isn’t it, how quickly the dominoes have fallen– everywhere you look, they’re spouting their support for removing the flag. you just know that means they’re protecting something they value more, and i bet you’re right, that something is the guns. who needs a flag when you can shoot trayvon down for wearing a hoodie and eating snacks in a way the looks threatening?

  7. June 23, 2015 at 6:53 pm

  8. June 23, 2015 at 6:59 pm

    Good Evening, Everyone 🙂

  9. June 23, 2015 at 7:07 pm

    • 43 nospin
      June 24, 2015 at 12:10 am

      ““Take down the #ConfederateFlag at the SC Capitol,” Mitt Romney tweeted on Saturday. “To many, it is a symbol of racial hatred.”

      David Gergen, an adviser to four presidents, asked Sunday night why the current crop of presidential hopefuls wasn’t joining Romney. “Where is their moral courage?” he tweeted.

      Moral courage, it turns out, is easier to come by when you’re a former presidential candidate. Sen. John McCain has expressed regret in hindsight over his own statements during his 2000 campaign that the Confederate flag was a state issue, later telling various audiences that his decision to put political self-interest above his own convictions remains one of his “deepest regrets.”

      Two words for McCain- Sarah Palin smdh!!!

  10. June 23, 2015 at 7:08 pm

  11. June 23, 2015 at 7:10 pm

    Langston Hughes Warned Us About Trolls Like Don Lemon

    It has come to the point that the mere presence of Don Lemon warrants me to take a deep breath and possibly a shot of some dark liquor.

    On one hand, it is perplexing how off-the-wall, insensitive and lackadaisical Lemon has become. But on the other hand, Langston Hughes forewarned us of the arrival of someone like him in “The Fun of Being Black,” an essay published in 1958’s “ The Langston Hughes Reader.” In the acerbically funny piece, the Harlem-based scribe pokes fun of the idea that gabbing blacks (and whites) thrive on fighting racism in America at the time.

    So I do not know why some folks (me included) are always lamenting the particular fact that we have a race conflict in America—because a great many people get a great deal of fun out of our contemporary white-Negro battles, not to speak of the jobs that are held as a result.

    Hughes sarcastic description of “crusaders” who “off the public platform” were “some of the happiest-looking people you could ever hope to meet” actually applies today. Now we call that person a “troll.”

    For those of you who don’t know, a troll is someone who raises controversial, discredited or irrelevant arguments for the sole purpose of making people angry, creating confusion, fueling discord and getting attention. Trolls aren’t concerned with engaging in an honest debate. They just want a strong emotional reaction. They satisfy their thirst by manipulating passion points.

    Don Lemon is a troll.

    http://www.colorlines.com/articles/langston-hughes-warned-us-about-trolls-don-lemon

  12. 49 jacquelineoboomer
    June 23, 2015 at 7:11 pm

  13. June 23, 2015 at 7:12 pm

    #AMENine

    #TruthAndReconciliation

  14. June 23, 2015 at 7:16 pm

  15. June 23, 2015 at 7:16 pm

    1100->3600+% uptick in sales

    “In this we see the progression of what became known as the “Heritage Not Hate” argument. Bold defenses of slavery became passé. It just happened that those who praised the flag, also tended to praise the instruments of white supremacy popular in that day. And then there were times when the mask slipped. “Quit looking at the symbols,” South Carolina State Representative John Graham Altman said during a debate over the flag’s fate in 1997. “Get out and get a job. Quit shooting each other. Quit having illegitimate babies.” Nikki Haley deserves credit for calling for the removal of the Confederate flag. She deserves criticism for couching that removal as matter of manners. At the present moment the effort to remove the flag is being cast as matter of politesse, a matter over which reasonable people may disagree.

    The flag is a “painful symbol” concedes David French. Its removal might “offer relief to those genuinely hurt,” writes Ian Tuttle. “To many, it is a symbol of racial hatred,”tweeted Mitt Romney. The flag has been “misappropriated by hate groups,”claims South Carolina senator Tom Davis. This mythology of manners is adopted in lieu of the mythology of the Lost Cause. But it still has the great drawback of being rooted in a lie. The Confederate flag should not come down because it is offensive to African Americans. The Confederate flag should come down because it is embarrassing to all Americans. The embarrassment is not limited to the flag, itself. The fact that it still flies, that one must have a debate about in 2015, reflects an incredible ignorance. A century and a half after Lincoln was killed, after 750,000 of our ancestors died, Americans still aren’t quite sure why.

  16. June 23, 2015 at 7:19 pm

    “Congress is set to take up another set of votes on legislation to advance President Obama’s trade agenda, which — if five different roll calls go his way — could finally conclude by Friday with a major victory for the White House. It’s been a several-month saga for Obama, with his bid to first win fast-track authority so that he can then pass a massive 12-nation trade deal bobbing and weaving at various points, seemingly dead in the legislative waters, only to bounce back to keep advancing. Here’s a rundown of the key issues:

    So, how is this possible that the president still might win on trade?

    Rather than sulk, Obama and his top advisers spent the next few days figuring out how to get around the Democratic blockade. They knew they had a super-majority of senators supporting fast-track powers — 48 Republicans and 14 Democrats voted for the entire trade package in late May. And they knew a slim majority supported TPA in the House, where the main issue won on a narrow vote moments after Democrats delivered the blow on the worker program. Working the phones with Boehner and Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.), the president agreed to a new plan that would peel off the fast-track powers for trade deals and move that as its own stand-alone bill…. whenTuesday’s roll call crests 60 votes, that sets up a final passage for trade authority on Wednesday and would send the legislation to Obama to be signed into law.

    Won’t House Democrats still block TAA just like two weeks ago?

    That’s hard to say, but White House officials and their pro-trade allies in the Capitol believe that this new plan will leave liberal opponents of Obama’s trade agenda with no choice but to approve the newly assembled combination. After initially citing many different reasons, most House Democrats eventually said their opposition to TAA’s worker funds was done solely to block fast-track. Now that the TPA bill will already be at the White House, the incentive to vote against a collection of three bills that most Democrats otherwise support might fade. Supporters of Obama’s trade agenda believe dozens of members of the Congressional Black Caucus and the Steel Caucus will now support the plan, and other Democrats have privately suggested they might now vote for the package if it does nothing to stop the centerpiece of the original bundle — TPA — from getting signed into law. That vote could happen Friday in the House…continued”

    • June 23, 2015 at 7:25 pm

      Go to @shultz44’s TL 😆 😆 😆

  17. June 23, 2015 at 7:21 pm

  18. 62 jacquelineoboomer
    June 23, 2015 at 7:21 pm

    Earlier, I think I heard the results of the boorish Jake Tapper’s apparent unintentional baptism in the holy waters at Charleston Harbor in SC.

    He’s so very much trying to be onboard with the nation’s outrage that he referred to the “racist terrorist shooter” of Charleston that way about three times in the same sentence, almost as though he were trying to get out as many bad words among his friends as possible before Mommy got home. Of course, Mommy is the viewing public and we’ve heard it all. Everybody wants to get on the bandwagon now, in not calling the Charleston shooter a poor misguided young white kid who had a bad week.

    With that and the brouhaha about the confederate flag, it’s been a real interesting day in America.

  19. 63 Nerdy Wonka
    June 23, 2015 at 7:23 pm

    • 64 99ts
      June 23, 2015 at 7:56 pm

      The recent ruling from SCOTUS means the removal of said license plate cannot be debated in the courts – how sad 🙂

    • 65 Vicki
      June 23, 2015 at 8:22 pm

      Yes, Nedry.
      A BIG win for President Obama and the American people.
      A dubious result for the Dems who fundraised off opposition to The President. Lots of TV exposure, but, thank you PBO, a defeat.

      And, for the Candidate who had one foot each planted in 2 trains pulling in opposite directions?
      A last-minute leap to the Losing car—against PBO and against 45 previous votes in favor of trade???

      Quick—release a poll.
      So, WSJ and NBC did. 247 respondents gave HRC a 60% win. Yes, 247 individual people preferred HRC in 2016.
      Sigh

      • 66 Vicki
        June 23, 2015 at 8:23 pm

        Nerdy. sorry

        • 67 Vicki
          June 23, 2015 at 8:26 pm

          Also, Donald Trump polled at second place in New Hampshire today.
          That poll had 500 people.

          Polls are entirely silly at this point.

          But what else can unpopular candidates do to cloud perceptions?

          • 68 99ts
            June 23, 2015 at 9:17 pm

            Having Trump as a candidate is one reason why people do not vote – how could any sane person vote for him?

          • 69 0388jojothecat
            June 23, 2015 at 11:43 pm

            All newbies poll high until the next newbie comes along to knock them down…..Jebbie will be the next Rmoney.

  20. 71 MightyPamela
    June 23, 2015 at 7:34 pm

    ❤ Made it back, safe and sorta sound! ❤

  21. 73 Nerdy Wonka
    June 23, 2015 at 7:35 pm

    • 74 99ts
      June 23, 2015 at 7:53 pm

      If Bill Kristol is unhappy – I am estatic. The man who is NEVER on the right side of an argument brought the 2008 VP nominee into Federal politics and for that alone he should be removed from polite society. The divisive hatred of partisan politics began the night that John McCain introduced her to the world.

    • June 23, 2015 at 8:30 pm

      NW I’m sure some of Kristlol relatives have plenty of the confederate flags, they might have some of the KKK outfits too.

    • 76 jacquelineoboomer
      June 23, 2015 at 9:46 pm

      Let’s ask Bill Kristol – who identifies himself as Jewish – if it would be okay to have the Nazi flag on top of every State House building, north of the Mason-Dixon.

  22. June 23, 2015 at 7:37 pm

    Sighs.

  23. 81 susanne
    June 23, 2015 at 7:37 pm

    good piece from krugman’s blog:

    ‘ Whites who currently live in Southern counties that had high shares of slaves in 1860 are more likely to identify as a Republican, oppose af- firmative action, and express racial resentment and colder feelings toward blacks. ‘ — that’s in spite of the racial makeup of the county today.

    http://krugman.blogs.nytimes.com/2015/06/23/more-on-slaverys-shadow/?module=BlogPost-Title&version=Blog%20Main&contentCollection=Opinion&action=Click&pgtype=Blogs&region=Body

  24. 82 susanne
    June 23, 2015 at 7:41 pm

    a second krugman post, with some handy maps:

    ‘ Nothing about America makes sense without understanding the long shadow cast by the original sin of slavery. ‘

    http://krugman.blogs.nytimes.com/2015/06/20/the-issue-that-wont-go-away/?module=BlogPost-Title&version=Blog%20Main&contentCollection=Opinion&action=Click&pgtype=Blogs&region=Body

  25. 83 susanne
    June 23, 2015 at 7:56 pm

    ‘ Charleston gunman Dylann Roof wrote that he was never the same after discovering a website with “pages upon pages of these brutal black on white murders.”

    The pages that left Roof in disbelief were the product of a white-nationalist group subsidized by American taxpayers.

    The Council of Conservative Citizens Inc. is listed by the Internal Revenue Service as a nonprofit organization that promotes social welfare, also known as a 501(c)(4). Such groups pay no federal taxes.

    Tax-exempt social welfare groups are supposed to “primarily promote the common good and general welfare of the people of the community as a whole,” according to IRS documents.

    The Council of Conservative Citizens explains on its website that its members believe “that the American people and government should remain European in their composition and character…. We also oppose all efforts to mix the races of mankind.” ‘

    http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/06/23/group-that-fueled-dylann-roof-s-hate-is-subsidized-by-u-s-taxpayers.html

  26. 84 hopefruit2
    June 23, 2015 at 7:56 pm

    OKAY? Now put these damn cops behind bars.

  27. June 23, 2015 at 8:07 pm

    PBO hit it right on the mark with this comment:

  28. 88 globalcitizenlinda
    June 23, 2015 at 8:14 pm

  29. June 23, 2015 at 8:15 pm

    LOVE LOVE LOVE LOVE

  30. 91 globalcitizenlinda
    June 23, 2015 at 8:20 pm

    Not surprised by Jimm Webb’s lack of condemnation for the confederate flag”;

    Reason: I always thought he looked at and treated PBO with open contempt – may be I am wrong and he just has a face that manages to belittle others

  31. 92 susanne
    June 23, 2015 at 8:37 pm

    from bbc, a global survey reports that the u.s.a. and president obama are viewed favorably by the majority.

    ‘ Considering people in all 40 countries around the world, Mr Obama has the backing of a median of 69% of people …’

    http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-33249752

  32. 93 amk for obama
    June 23, 2015 at 8:42 pm

    The world ‘largely likes’ the US and the kenyan – global survey.

    A recently-released global survey of 40 countries by the Pew Research Center finds that large numbers of people have a favourable opinion of the United States, its economy and the US-led fight against the Islamic State.

    Overall, the US is largely seen in a positive light, with a global median of 69% of people saying they viewed the US favourably. That’s up from 65% in 2013 and 2014, says Pew.

    But when it comes to the issue of post-9/11 interrogation techniques – which many consider to be torture – the US has received a worldwide rebuke.

    ///

    The US president, however, enjoys widespread support that, in many places, has been growing – except for in one country.

    Mr Obama’s popularity in Israel has taken a nosedive in Israel over the past 12 months. Last year, he had the backing of 71% of Israelis. But this year, only 49% gave him the thumbs-up.

    However in India the opposite is true. Over the past year, his popularity in that country jumped from 48% to 71%. He’s seen his popularity grow in 14 of the surveyed countries.

    Considering people in all 40 countries around the world, Mr Obama has the backing of a median of 69% of people (much higher than his approval rating in the US).

    In all the countries surveyed in the EU and sub-Saharan Africa, half or more support the American president. In 29 countries, majorities said they were confident that Mr Obama would do the right thing when it came to world affairs.

    http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-33249752

  33. 94 globalcitizenlinda
    June 23, 2015 at 8:44 pm

    two things I am pondering together about the Charleston shooting:

    (1) the NRA, their supporters and gop are really hoping that the bulk of the fury and focus of ordinary people remains on the confederate flag (as a symbol of racial hatred, and less attention be paid to guns violence and easy access to guns;

    (2) gop has calculated that they should join in the calls for change and thereby appear to be on the side of the ordinary people in SC (and around the nation/world) – otherwise the already large crowds hitting the streets will grow and may be affect their vote totals in some areas

    • 95 Vicki
      June 23, 2015 at 8:50 pm

      Yes, to both ideas, globalcitizenlinda.
      Still, a great victory to get rid of the confederate flag.

    • 96 idon
      June 23, 2015 at 8:56 pm

      ALL GOP candidates federal and state level who are up for election in 2016 should lose their seats because the GOP has become synonymous with hate, fear, paranoia, racism, violence, TERRORISM and sedition.

  34. 97 magapie
    June 23, 2015 at 8:44 pm

    My focus and attention span are shot these days. Why are the emos SO HYSTERICAL about TPA?

  35. 98 Vicki
    June 23, 2015 at 8:48 pm

    For what it’s worth, I think that the removal of the Confederate Flag from SC public space, from license plates, from Walmart’s and Amazon and all the other places is a Huge Thing. For me, it is the earth moving.

    The centuries long clinging to the insane notion of white superiority is starting to crumble.

    I understand that to some other people this event is seen as a removal of an ugly symbol but not authentic change.

    What I think is that it is a visual retraction of the licence to delude yourself about your place in the universe at the expense of others. Sick and crazy that it took this long.

    Halleluya!

  36. June 23, 2015 at 8:51 pm


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