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On chasing the “Archie Bunker voter”

In case it hasn’t been made painfully clear, the Democrats seeking to succeed Barack Obama as president have no time for his coalition.

First, Hillary Clinton, the presumptive nominee, urges the President to “take advice” from Nancy Pelosi on the TPP trade deal. You know, just like her husband did when he was in charge. Oh, except, Mr. Clinton didn’t. Call me confused, but I thought that, aside from sheer incompetence or malfeasance, the members of a president’s party were supposed to take leadership from him, not nip at his heels over every initiative.

Then, of course, we had Senator Bernie Sanders opining yesterday that black Americans needed to stop voting based on race. The sheer audacity of this statement is mind-boggling. There would have been no Democratic wave of 2006, or two Obama landslides, without the African American vote. And these same African Americans, before the arrival of Barack Obama, voted in almost lock-step for every tired-ass white Democratic candidate which made it through the primary meat grinder. Were blacks voting based on race when they voted for Al Gore or John Kerry?

That was insulting enough. But that was just the shot. Here’s the chaser. Sen. Sanders then went on to say that Democrats had to regain the “working class vote”.

Let that sink in. A sitting United States senator, caucusing with Democrats, running for the Democratic presidential nomination, an avowed socialist, made a distinction between black votes and working class votes. In his mind, the two are mutually exclusive, not overlapping in a Venn diagram. Blacks over there, working class over here.

President Obama showed Democrats how to win. And it wasn’t by slavishly pining after the “working class vote”.

Let’s call that vote for what it is: white voters who left the Democratic coalition in droves after the Civil Rights Act and Voting Rights Act, and have stayed away ever since then, generation after generation giving its allegiance to the GOP.

I will let our Twitter friend Rootless intrude here for a moment:

There you have it, folks, in a nutshell. Yes, logically a poor dirt farmer in Appalachia should vote Democratic. The party, for all its faults, generally has an ideology which is concerned with the poorest among us. The Walmart worker in Indiana earning $9 an hour should tell Mike Pence to go pound salt and vote Democratic every time. On class and economics, the GOP is godawful, no longer even disguising its drooling devotion to the .001% of the country.

But those folks don’t vote Democrat. They never will. And it has nothing to do with Barack Obama. It began long before Pres. Obama came on the scene.

It’s the blacks. It’s the Latinos. It’s the Asians.

It’s the gays. It’s the uppity women

It’s the fear that God and guns will be taken away from them.

It’s the idea that they’re stagnating not because of awful economic policies enacted since the 1980s, but because “those people” are getting a leg up over them.

It’s a nice trick the GOP has: push through policies which decimate white working and middle class people with one hidden hand, and then with the other hand point and say “Look, welfare queens! Raping immigrants! Pedophile gay men!” And the white working and middle classes, burdened by their lives vanishing before them, latch on to the parlor trick, and vote, not so amazingly, against their own economic interests. When your world is falling apart, you do latch on to God and guns, as someone said a few years ago, regardless that those things aren’t going to help you get out of your current pass.

Barack Obama is the most successful Democratic president, in terms of getting his agenda enacted, since FDR. And yet all too many Democrats run away from him. All too many Democrats give him no leeway or credit for the fixing of messes made before him. He’s only America’s “second” black president. And now it seems as if the “first” black president’s wife is on her way to getting elected, everything will be rosy. Screw the Obama coalition. Let’s get those Archie Bunkers back on side. Then we can safely ignore the blacks/Latinos/gays/women/anyone not white and “authentic”.

Archie Bunker is not voting for Hillary Clinton. He may hate her as much or more than he hates Barack Obama. Archie Bunker isn’t going to vote for socialist Bernie Sanders. That ship has sailed.

Pres. Obama has shown how to steer the ship towards waters chock-full of votes. Why Democrats insist on tacking back towards the sand bars is unfathomable. Or, maybe, it’s quite fathomable. And thus, quite dispiriting.


110 Responses to “On chasing the “Archie Bunker voter””


  1. June 17, 2015 at 12:05 pm

    Happy day everyone!

  2. June 17, 2015 at 12:07 pm

    Let that sink in. A sitting United States senator, caucusing with Democrats, running for the Democratic presidential nomination, an avowed socialist, made a distinction between black votes and working class votes. In his mind, the two are mutually exclusive, not overlapping in a Venn diagram. Blacks over there, working class over here.

    I doff my cap to you LL, if I had a cap. A most excellent piece, thank you!!

      • 5 jacquelineoboomer
        June 17, 2015 at 12:21 pm

        Excellent post, LL. Thank you.

      • June 17, 2015 at 1:16 pm

        Sensational Post….

        your question??

        Pres. Obama has shown how to steer the ship towards waters chock-full of votes. Why Democrats insist on tacking back towards the sand bars is unfathomable. Or, maybe, it’s quite fathomable. And thus, quite dispiriting.

        ******************

        I think you know that answer to that….

        I will say this…that unless there is another candidate running for President…i will not be voting for President..NUFF SAID

    • 7 CEB
      June 17, 2015 at 12:48 pm

      This is the great fear of too many white Americans of all socio-economic levels and political persuasions. Welcome to the real world: a bi-racial, multi-national POTUS, A Latina woman on the highest bench of the land, and an African-American woman as the nation’s top lawyer. When we also factor in that they are fearless, brilliant, and successful, certain white tears are indeed bitter.

      On a side note: sometimes posters here refer to African-Americans as “the blacks.” While I know that no harm is intended, this designation is rather offensive because it objectifies people or make them seem as “other.” If it is too much trouble to write out African Americans: the following are acceptable: Black people, voters, citizens, or Black Americans, or simply A-A. Every time I have seen “the blacks” used here (Donald Trump and others of his ilk like this descriptor) I have cringed. I have said anything in the past, because I seldom make personal comments, but I needed to put this out here. I am not angry or anything, just finally felt brave enough to go there.

      • 8 CEB
        June 17, 2015 at 12:53 pm

        Should be: I have not said anything in the past…”

        • 9 sjterrid
          June 17, 2015 at 1:17 pm

          I’m glad you decided to speak up. We need to know when we say something that may offend someone, so we can learn from one another and don’t do it again.

      • 10 99ts
        June 17, 2015 at 7:51 pm

        Thank you CEB – I have found it difficult to know how African Americans want/like/expect to be referenced as a group, especially living outside of the US where our news sources too often copy the RW US media – I much appreciate your post.

  3. June 17, 2015 at 12:08 pm

    This is kind of a big deal in my neck of the woods considering Notre Dame is in South Bend:

    Any day now, the Supreme Court will issue a decision on same-sex marriage that will directly affect millions of Americans. It comes at a time of growing public acceptance and support for equal rights. But no matter what the Court does, issues of equality are hardly settled across the country. Today it remains legal in most parts of Indiana (though not South Bend) to fire someone simply for being gay, and bullying still contributes to tragically high suicide rates among LGBT teens. Still, our country is headed in a clear overall direction, and swiftly. Today 57 percent of Americans support same-sex marriage; just 15 years ago, the reverse was true. Experiences with friends or family members coming out have helped millions of Americans to see past stereotypes and better understand what being gay is — and is not. Being gay isn’t something you choose, but you do face choices about whether and how to discuss it. For most of our history, most Americans had no idea how many people they knew and cared about were gay.

    My high school in South Bend had nearly a thousand students. Statistically, that means that several dozen were gay or lesbian. Yet when I graduated in 2000, I had yet to encounter a single openly LGBT student there. That’s far less likely to be the case now, as more students come to feel that their families and community will support and care for them no matter what. This is a tremendously positive development: young people who feel support and acceptance will be less likely to harm themselves, and more likely to step into adulthood with mature self-knowledge. I was well into adulthood before I was prepared to acknowledge the simple fact that I am gay. It took years of struggle and growth for me to recognize that it’s just a fact of life, like having brown hair, and part of who I am. Putting something this personal on the pages of a newspaper does not come easy. We Midwesterners are instinctively private to begin with, and I’m not used to viewing this as anyone else’s business….continued”

  4. June 17, 2015 at 12:09 pm

    Ouch LL but so painfully true.

  5. 13 MightyPamela
    June 17, 2015 at 12:10 pm

  6. 14 misspat
    June 17, 2015 at 12:11 pm

    So spot on. They are running away from the President when they should be running towards him, acknowledging him, emulating him.

    • 15 Judith Fardig
      June 17, 2015 at 12:24 pm

      Exactly, MissPat!

      • 16 misspat
        June 17, 2015 at 1:01 pm

        I sent a tweet to the O’Malley guy. I told him just that and I hope he gets to see it. Everybody is distancing themselves from the only man that can help them. Go figure!

  7. 17 amk for obama
    June 17, 2015 at 12:17 pm

    It’s a parlor trick alright – vote against your own economic interests 24×7 while being fixated on the social issues – and the dems still wanting to suck up to these loons despite the evident disastrous results of 2010, 12 & 14, defines the term stupidity.

  8. 18 Linda
    June 17, 2015 at 12:17 pm

    Wow LL…..

    Can I send this to my AA Congressman who voted against TAA ?

  9. June 17, 2015 at 12:17 pm

    Republican climate skeptics have a response ready, if and when Pope Francis issues his encyclical making an urgent moral case for action to curb climate change: The Pope should stick to theology. National Journal reports that members of Congress in both parties are “eagerly awaiting” the Pope’s pronouncement. Senator Dick Durbin, for one, rather optimistically says he hopes it will make climate change a less partisan and polarizing issue, adding: “if he inspires us to consider policy, that will be a very successful effort.” That would be nice, but it probably isn’t going to happen. National Journal also talks to some leading Republicans, and the early returns are not promising:

    “It’s the latest summer blockbuster: A spiritual superhero armed with a pen and a prayer gears for battle against the forces of evil — energy executives. The future of the planet hangs in the balance. At least, that’s the premise behind a tongue-in-cheek trailer released ahead of Pope Francis’ widely anticipated statement on the environment this week.

    Made by a Brazilian environmental group, the trailer is playfully hyperbolic. (With Terminator-like intensity, the white-robed hero growls, “It’s time to take out the trash.”) But it nicely captures the hot air swirling around Francis’ encyclical, due to be published Thursday. Green groups eagerly await it, climate change skeptics can’t wait to rebut it, and GOP politicians approach it at their peril. On Monday, a leaked draft of the encyclical was published online by the Italian magazine L’Espresso. The Vatican said the document is only a draft and the rules of the embargo remain in place. Leaked documents or not, Francis remains enormously popular, and when he talks, world leaders — and the media — listen. This Pope doesn’t speak in sound bites; he speaks in headlines. With that in mind, here are answers to five key questions to help you cut through the hype about the Pope and climate change:

    1. What is an encyclical, and why are they important?

    Derived from the Greek word for “circle,” a papal encyclical is a letter from the pope to Catholic clergy and laypeople around the world. Often, the letters clarify Catholic doctrine, reiterate points of dogma and address contemporary issues through the light of church teachings. Pope Francis, though, has said he hopes his letter will reach a wider audience, including world leaders meeting for several key environmental summits this year. Encyclicals aren’t considered infallible (few papal documents are), but scholars say they are surpassed in importance only by papal bulls, which define dogma….continued”

    • 23 amk for obama
      June 17, 2015 at 12:23 pm

      As if this pope is gonna take ‘advice’ from rw gop loonies. He has been taking ob his own rw’ers rather successfully in the last two years and these nuts think they can dictate to him. I bet he’ll double down and will call out these nuts.

    • June 17, 2015 at 12:34 pm

      They’re missing the whole point. What Pope Francis is doing is weaving the conscious care taking of our planet to the moral underpinnings of faith. For him, it IS theology.

      • June 17, 2015 at 12:49 pm

        Exactly, and I think that this is where, instead of calling people morons and finger-wagging that they don’t vote their own interests implying that they are too stupid to know their own interests, we should be linking our issues to their values. GOP has done this in a big way and I think it may be too late to change that around.

  10. 26 Judith Fardig
    June 17, 2015 at 12:22 pm

    LL – every Democratic office holder from precinct committee person to Senator should read your analysis. Please email a copy to Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid and Debbie Wasserman-Schultz!

    • 27 Linda
      June 17, 2015 at 12:38 pm

      I just attached a copy of it to the DNC survey I received yesterday and will send it back to them without answering any of the questions.

  11. 28 jacquelineoboomer
    June 17, 2015 at 12:28 pm

  12. June 17, 2015 at 12:29 pm

    LL

    you are absolutely on point.

    President Obama showed the way, and it is disgusting to watch Democrats chase after muthaphuckas who would never vote for them.

    INSTEAD of going out and finding those already inclined to vote for you.

    IF they spent as much time fighting VOTER SUPPRESSION LAWS as they do studying how to get White Working CLass votes……

    you know the answer…

  13. June 17, 2015 at 12:31 pm

    STANDING O, LL. This really sums up t his whole ugly mess quite beautifully and succinctly. I want to cry.

  14. June 17, 2015 at 12:32 pm

    Someone once said that the Clinton’s were unapproachable with more moats around them than some castles in Europe.
    I’ve always said she lacks charisma and I am very skeptical that she will be a good president.

    The Obama Coalition is comprised of an eclectic array of citizens, many first time voters, young and they had a leader whom we believed. Hillary has trustworthiness issue beyond any I’ve seen.

    The good news is that the Republicans have isolated themselves and unless they can run the tables in 2016 capturing all the swing states plus one or two big blue ones, it is impossible for them to capture the White House.

    Take a look at the main actors, Cruz, Rubio, Paul and Christie. These folks are appeasing nutjobs with their fascist rhetoric.
    Government is not bad, some politicians are bad, more often than not the Republicans have a patent on evilness.
    Reverting back to my Hillary assessment, chasing white voters, Reagan Democrats is foolish and ill advised. Those are not the demographics which elected president Obama twice by an overwhelming majority.

    Hillary has been given a good economy, scandal free administration, and the good will of the president’s supporters. It’s up to her to seize it, run away from the accomplishment of the Obama Administration and you will succeed at the almost impossible, defeat.

    The GOP are boxed in, Immigration, Gay marriage and Healthcare. They offer no solutions and least we forget they are incapable of governing.
    Those who believe that Clinton will have a wonderful administration without the grid-lock of the first black president are in a fantasy. Recall the 1990’s? The Republicans deplore the Clinton’s and even though she is white, she remains a female. They will attempt everything to get her to appear is a shrew, bank on it.

    Bill Clinton gave us DADT, DOMA, NAFTA and a host of other jewels which have harmed us. Some will argue he was forced via the Republican controlled congress, I submit with conviction one does not bow.

    I’m thinking that perhaps Democrats need to seriously ponder another challenger as a plan B. Once the cycle gets going it’s anybody’s guess what the juicy negative delights the GOP Machine will toss out into the political sphere, after all these are Clintons. What lurks and goes bump in the night.

    • 32 amk for obama
      June 17, 2015 at 12:39 pm

      Yup, that’s what I am worried about. Given the political longevity of Clintons’ and given that they ARE Clintons’, they have more bones in their collective cupboards than a dinosaur and the thugs and the their msm shills will throw all kindsa diversionary stunts around them. Uncle Joe is the best bet now to carry Obama coalition.

    • June 17, 2015 at 12:44 pm

      I’m starting to believe that VP Joe, our only hope, will not enter the race. He was preparing to think strongly about it just about the time Beau became ill 2 years ago and it just feels like he’s letting it slip away, for obvious reasons. I read some background months ago that he was holding his powder to wait and see if HRC screws up. But I don’t think Democrats give a care if she screws up at all. They’re hitched to her sorry wagon.

      There was an article today on how House Dems are solidly behind Bill Clinton being able to give paid speeches while she runs. Here’s the money quote:

      In 2008, the Clintons kept a “hit list” of politicians who betrayed them by backing then-Sen. Barack Obama (D-Ill.).

      “Let’s face it, the Clintons keep score,” said Brad Bannon, a Democratic strategist. “A lot of people in Washington are probably scared to death of the Clintons, and they probably have a good right to be.”

      • 34 GGail
        June 17, 2015 at 1:05 pm

        meta, the Draft Joe Biden 2016 committee is still sending out emails, trying to encourage more financial participation and more signatures. He’s the candidate of my choice, but I’m wondering if he is motivated as before Beau passed. Again, I keep saying to myself, it’s a long time till November 2016.

        • 35 Vicki
          June 17, 2015 at 1:40 pm

          meta, VP Joe Biden always said “end of summer” and I will keep my hopes alive until at least August 1.

          • June 17, 2015 at 2:37 pm

            Me, too. I guess also part of what I’m saying is that the Clinton Machine has everybody intimidated into supporting. Joe would never cower to this but he would really need to call in some chips if he stands a chance against HillaryLand. It is my deepest hope that he steps forward.

      • 37 sjterrid
        June 17, 2015 at 1:36 pm

        I was thinking, alright hoping, that he will decide to run, because I believe Beau would have wanted him to run knowing how much good he and jill can do for this country. I think that might have been why he wasn’t ready to announce earlier than the end of the summer. He needed to be there for his family knowing how sick Beau was. I don’t blame him if he decides not to run, though.

      • June 17, 2015 at 2:44 pm

        That’s the main reason why I dislike them. Dirty politics, manipulation, favor trading, rule by fear and the like.

        And that’s also the main reason why Barack Obama has had so much difficulty with his own party. In the beginning, the Clintonites were PISSED that Barack Obama had deprived Hillary of the presidency. So they were resisting his leadership, considering him as an inferior president than Hillary could have been. And Bill was always on tv, commenting on this and that, pontificating.

        After a couple of years, it became known that Hillary was considering a run in 2016. There was a campaign to name her VP but President Obama refused to succumb to the pressure and kept Joe Biden on the ticket. And since 2012, it has been pretty clear, despite Hillary’s denials, that she would indeed run in 2016. So not only the strong supporters of Hillary but all democratic politicians now want to remain in the good graces of the Clintons. The fact that Hillary seems to be sailing to the democratic nomination makes her and Bill, unfortunately, more powerful than ever over the democratic caucus.

        If the Clintons are sure about the nomination, and if the democratic caucus is sure also, in practical terms that means the democratic caucus is already considering the CLintons as the leaders of their party and won’t give a damn about what Barack Obama wants.

        My consolation is that Barack Obama still has some political power: this power resides in the love of the democratic base for the President. Democratic politicians better be careful.

        Another good point is that Barack Obama has begun to “right the ship” ; the thirty years of Reaganism are OVER. The liberal, progressive agenda is more popular than ever. If the Clintonites want to return to DLC politics, in order to please their campaign donors, the democratic base won’t let them. And I would bet that Barack Obama will take back the leadership of the grassroots if they dare try.

        The best scenario for me: a democratic president, be it Hillary Clinton or someone else, plus gains in Congress, PLUS Barack Obama leading the grassroots activism. Those democrats will need pressure to do the right thing…

      • 39 nospin
        June 17, 2015 at 2:59 pm

        I see VPOTUS as throwing his hat in the ring and he has my vote locked.

  15. 40 Obama Grandmama
    June 17, 2015 at 12:38 pm

    I am about to leave so will check back for responses when I get back in the afternoon. I just came on board and have not read all the previous threads or posts so this may have been addressed already and I will read about it later.
    I listened to NPR this morning hearing an interview with Paul Ryan. It is the first time I have thought what he has said is right on. He talked about the TTP. He explained why we needed it and put it in historical perspective with presidents since FDR having the authority to conduct the deal with Congress acting afterwards.
    I am starting to think I am a real Independent ideologically leaning Left instead of a Democrat even if I may only agree with 1% of what Republicans want. In this instance I am seeing Dems as stubborn and blind as Republicans are about social issues, climate change, gun rights, women’s rights, voting rights and on and on.

    • 41 Obama Grandmama
      June 17, 2015 at 12:39 pm

      TPP not TTP

    • June 17, 2015 at 12:57 pm

      I agree that there is some very Tea Party thinking going on with the Democrats right now. THEY are the ones who are treating PBO like a lame duck, not the GOP. They are running after E. Warren who they think will hold the power in the next few years. Well, just like the GOP, they discount PBO at their own peril. They are slowly caving to the finger-wagger-in-chief instead of standing strong. And when you try to explain to people the differences between NAFTA and TPP or what fast-track really means or how the TPA benefits workers, they just figuratively stick their fingers in their ears and say “Na na na I can’t hear you!”. It is all fear based reactionary response coming right out of their lizard brain (amygdala?). The logic that because negative things happened after one trade deal, the next one is sure to have the same result is to me just like the gun nuts’ arguement that there’s no point in having gun laws because criminals will still have guns.

      • June 17, 2015 at 2:49 pm

        Very well said. Like the President said, when he asks what their objections are, they only have on thing to say: NAFTA. And the debate isn’t more intelligent nor nuanced on emo-blogs.

        • June 17, 2015 at 6:42 pm

          I keep asking “Why do you think President Obama would go against everything he has achieved and believed in to push one bad trade deal?” Same answer; “But NAFTA…..”

  16. June 17, 2015 at 12:40 pm

  17. June 17, 2015 at 12:44 pm

    My new post, everyone.

    • 48 Linda
      June 17, 2015 at 12:52 pm

      LL, how old is this man because this story scares the heck out of me at age 68.

      • June 17, 2015 at 12:54 pm

        You know what, I’m not sure. Probably in his 60s.

      • June 17, 2015 at 1:07 pm

        I just read that researchers are thinking that Alzheimers and maybe other similar conditions may be linked to lack of sleep. Apparently when we sleep, in addition to solidifying knowledge and memories, the brain flushes out toxins and other stuff that can clog it up. This seems to be a lot more intense during sleep than previously thought and one of the things it flushes out are the kind of plaques (forget the name) that are seen in the brains of Alzheimers patient. So stop worrying and get a good night’s sleep instead! 🙂

  18. 51 Linda
    June 17, 2015 at 12:45 pm

    John Sununu is making the rounds hacking his book about Bush 41 titled The Quiet Man.

    They are all fawning over him…. I wonder if his book mentions that Bush 41 sent GWB to fire his ass . I doubt that is in the book.

  19. June 17, 2015 at 12:55 pm

    OK, the other shoe has dropped. I think this is becoming more and more difficult to achieve day by day. I really hope I’m wrong.

    • June 17, 2015 at 1:35 pm

      what has happened is that PBO has boxed in the Dems…it will be the DEMS on record as being against the TAA..which is set to expire at the end of September….so the ball is in their court….he will not except one without the other….the TPA has passed already….he wants both…so what will the DEMs do!!!!

  20. 58 Don
    June 17, 2015 at 12:56 pm

    Apparently Bernie Sanders wants his country back.

    • June 17, 2015 at 1:36 pm

      i feel a certain calm…

      not voting for Sanders …
      not voting for HRC
      jury still out on O’Malley

      • 60 Sandy1110
        June 17, 2015 at 1:41 pm

        HRC’s PUMAs overlap with the Archie Bunker demo.

        Bernie Sanders is a ‘never-was’ in my book.

        If HRC doesn’t thread the needle believably enough, she’ll find a chunk of non-white voters writing in a candidate the way her PUMAs did instead of voting for PBO. I don’t think of myself sharing common ground with the racist likes of Lynn Forrester De Rothschild.

      • 61 Vicki
        June 17, 2015 at 1:45 pm

        Pretty foot—-Linc Chafee enthusiastically supports PBO on Trade.
        Also voted Against Iraq War when he was in the Senate.
        Has been a Mayor and now the Governor of Rhode Island.
        Not saying he can win but those are 2 facts to consider.

      • 63 EricFive
        June 17, 2015 at 2:32 pm

        O’Malley is damaged goods. Rumors swirl that while Baltimore Gov. (and married) he got a local newscaster pregnant and she had to leave town. She is now on NYC 7 news (her name is Sade Baderinwa). The mayor in the Wire was based on O’Malley and that character also had a problem being faithful to his wife. He sounds like another Bill Clinton in that he cannot control his appetites.

        • June 17, 2015 at 2:34 pm

          Oh great, another John Edwards.

        • 66 nospin
          June 17, 2015 at 3:03 pm

          I never heard any of that about O’Malley. so I will wait for proof on that.

        • 68 Nena20409
          June 17, 2015 at 4:57 pm

          Whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat?
          Where is our TODable Donna?
          Is this true or just a Rumor without cause?
          I just Googled her……
          She is a stunningly Gorgeous 46 yrs old TV Anchor. A Biracial. German Mother and Nigerian Father. Abandoned as a child, but was adopted by an AA Couple. She is maintains relation with both her Biological Father and her adopted family.
          She had other issues with tangled relationships……etc.
          Has O’Malley been asked to address this rumor?

  21. 69 GGail
    June 17, 2015 at 12:57 pm

    Oh boy, we have a long way to go to get to November 2016.

  22. 72 Nena20409
    June 17, 2015 at 12:59 pm

    Hello TOD. Good Wednesday to All. Quiet, partly cloudy and humid in my parts of the world.
    I have not read LL’s post. I know with history that his post will deliver as always, beautifully, factually and impeccably. Thank you, Sir.
    Congrats to the Gold ⭐ winners, starting with this post and 3/4 posts back.
    LIVE now, already in Progress, Josh “The Voice” Earnest is at The Podium educating the unruly WHPC petulant bunch.

    Now off I go to read LL’s Piece.

  23. 73 Nena20409
    June 17, 2015 at 1:01 pm

    I thought, AG Lynch has been sworn in earlier?
    Did I not hear, not read, or not remember this happened?

  24. June 17, 2015 at 1:08 pm

    Ok, I may plotz now. My Amazon Prime membership now includes Amazon Fresh. Wheeeee!

  25. 80 Linda
    June 17, 2015 at 1:08 pm

    Media Matters VP Accuses Trump Of Hiring ‘Actors’ For Campaign Launch

    http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/donald-trump-actors-media-matters

    I would bet this is true.

  26. 82 vcprezofan2
    June 17, 2015 at 1:09 pm

    Hi! I know (hope) there are no worms left, but ‘Hi’.

    • 83 GGail
      June 17, 2015 at 1:14 pm

      Hi vc!
      I wonder if Chef Mario Batali wore his orange Crocs while cooking with FLOTUS 🙂

      • 84 vcprezofan2
        June 17, 2015 at 3:03 pm

        Hello, MsGx2!

        I haven’t a clue what you’re talking about but that’s okay. One of these days I *may* get more hip to the nuances of celebrity fashion, however, don’t count on it. I’ve been bouncing in and out (had to run to the hardware store just now), so I’m pretty lost as to what’s really happening here. I plan to use this hour before my tutee arrives to see how much TOD ground I can cover.

  27. 85 Nena20409
    June 17, 2015 at 1:16 pm

    Excellent post LL.
    I will also add that in just Numbers, in 1992 and 1996…….WJC’s claim to Victory came by 43% of the vote in 1992 and 49% of the popular vote in 1996. Those number are when combined with what Perot(sp), GH Bush in 1992 and Dole and Perot in 1996 were Never near the 70M then Sen Obama received in 2008 or Pres Obama received in 2012.
    Pres Obama in numbers alone, out performed in every Demographic. 70M Votes in 2008 and 65.9M in 2012 are record Voting numbers for Presidential Candidates.
    During the Impeachment of WJC, AAs supported him more than any other group, percentage-wise.
    If today, elected Dems want more White Voters from the South or any place else, then Dems need to own up and address the White Flight in local races when a Black Candidate wins the Dem Nomination. Dems in the South can still dominate the Southern States today if Not for this Crude, Cruel and Wicked phenomenon.

    • 86 Linda
      June 17, 2015 at 1:29 pm

      Here is Georgia there are almost 700k unregistered AA voters.

    • 87 EricFive
      June 17, 2015 at 2:54 pm

      Nena20409 attempting to look at this situation rationally, using actual math, will give you a headache. You must use “white supremacist math” which dictates that only by winning the White vote can a candidate legitimately win the White House. Dems know they cannot win the presidency without the Black vote, but they are not making much of a fuss over the Supreme Court gutting the Voting Rights Act are they? Instead they are acting like they don’t want the Black vote. As I posited yesterday, Dems don’t want to be labeled or viewed as being the “Black folks party”. These “white working class” voters left the Dems in the late 1960s due to the Civil Rights Act/Voting Rights Act/end of Apartheid in America (i.e., they left the Dems because LBJ struck a serious blow against de jure White supremacy in America). In short, due to their antagonism toward AAs, these voters switched parties and never came back. Sanders and the Dem establishment by going after these voters (and disrespecting PBO and Black voters) is seeking to go back to the days when both political parties were openly White supremacist.

  28. 88 Nena20409
    June 17, 2015 at 1:23 pm

  29. 89 Nena20409
    June 17, 2015 at 1:28 pm

  30. 90 Nena20409
    June 17, 2015 at 1:29 pm

  31. 91 Nena20409
    June 17, 2015 at 1:34 pm

  32. 92 Nena20409
    June 17, 2015 at 1:39 pm

    When one Lies as often as GOPers do publicly, knowing very well that the US Media would look the other, the current tactics are today: Deny, Refuse to Discuss your lies, Pretend Amnesia, Trivialize your Idiocy……..and in no time, The US News Media adopts the same Lies as Moving On? What a Shame!

  33. 94 Nena20409
    June 17, 2015 at 1:40 pm

    • 95 Vicki
      June 17, 2015 at 1:51 pm

      Israel’s big problem is the imprisoning 1.8 million Gazans in the world’s largest outdoor incarceration center.
      Israel’s big problem is the apartheid road and checkpoint system in The West bank.
      Israel’s big problem is the land grab which means stealing Arab held land, bulldozing the homes, and plopping Israeli settlements on the stolen land.
      And so on.

      Only an American could distort this sad truth to make it about his own country.

  34. 98 Nena20409
    June 17, 2015 at 1:42 pm

  35. 99 JER
    June 17, 2015 at 1:46 pm

  36. June 17, 2015 at 2:17 pm

  37. June 17, 2015 at 2:21 pm

    Young Mr. Coltrane does NOT look pleased.

  38. June 17, 2015 at 2:51 pm

    LL, your essay on Chasing the Archie Bunker voter, is absolutely outstanding. I hope you don’t my me sharing excerpts from your wonderful work, on tweeter.

  39. 107 Juli
    June 17, 2015 at 2:52 pm

    Thank you for this!

  40. 108 JER
    June 17, 2015 at 2:53 pm

  41. June 17, 2015 at 3:09 pm


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