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Did you know “this country has overcome racism”? Bernie says so.

Bernie Sanders in a November 2014 interview

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“….. the African-American community is very, very proud that this country has overcome racism and voted for him for president….”

“You should not be basing your politics based on your color.”

“…. you had an abysmally low vote for the Democrats among white, working-class people. And I think the reason for that is that the Democrats have not made it clear that they are prepared to stand with the working-class people of this country….”

….. the condescension …. the notion that “this country has overcome racism” because it elected PBO ….. and putting African Americans and “the working-class people of this country” in to separate categories….

….. truly, this guy is something else.

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https://twitter.com/allanbrauer/status/610861533405573124

https://twitter.com/theonlyadult/status/610867491099799552

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https://twitter.com/taylormattd/status/610895278506274818

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https://twitter.com/femme_esq/status/610893359561904129

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https://twitter.com/Lib_Librarian/status/610894341410689024

https://twitter.com/Lib_Librarian/status/610894494750240769

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https://twitter.com/Lib_Librarian/status/610894707636350976

https://twitter.com/Lib_Librarian/status/610894814729474049

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https://twitter.com/NerdyWonka/status/610893039096037376

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https://twitter.com/allanbrauer/status/610875546491322368

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126 Responses to “Did you know “this country has overcome racism”? Bernie says so.”


  1. 1 Nerdy Wonka
    June 16, 2015 at 4:41 pm

    Side-eyeing you super hard, Bernie.

    For someone who wants to be President of the United States, that’s not smart thinking in private or public any time, day, month, or year.

  2. 2 Vicki
    June 16, 2015 at 4:41 pm

    Bernie is an idiot and his comments are unacceptable.
    On the other hand I don’t want us to go hard against dems.

    • 3 COS
      June 16, 2015 at 4:45 pm

      This is precisely why I would never vote for Bernie Sanders. He has a one track mind. All of his conversations are the same. He is a broken record. Whenever I see him on anything, I turn the channel or mute him. He is a darling of the emos and in their eyes he and EW can do no wrong.

    • 5 jackiegrumbacher
      June 16, 2015 at 4:46 pm

      Vicki, I honestly think that Sanders will self-destruct on his own. He’s riding a mini wave right now, but it won’t take him to the nomination and it certainly will never take him to the White House.

    • 8 globalcitizenlinda
      June 16, 2015 at 4:47 pm

      Dems, have to be challenged on the issue of racial equality. They need to be challenged early because if not, they are signaling that they will go back to using coded racial language as they did in 2014 & thereby demoralized voters

  3. 11 globalcitizenlinda
    June 16, 2015 at 4:42 pm

    Hi

  4. 12 Vicki
    June 16, 2015 at 4:47 pm

    Here is something we can all agree on.
    The democrats lost in 2014, in part, by separating themselves from the stunningly high achievements of their own Party’s President.
    Thereby trying to retain the racist vote.

    I want us to win in 2016 by extolling the amazing success of Our 44th President. Not by trashing other dems. Let the corporate state GOP and DINOS handle that.

    Democrats have the right message. Now we need a better messenger.

  5. 25 jackiegrumbacher
    June 16, 2015 at 5:00 pm

    To all my good TOD friends who expressed concern about my health issues, Thank You. Three months ago, I started out on journey to discover why I was feeling miserable, in pain and unable to eat. I think I’ve had just about every test known to man at a nationally acclaimed medical center. The question of what was going on was always answered with an “I don’t know. Nothing conclusive.” I was put on one medication after another and then last Thursday I had a procedure to drain almost a pitcher full of fluid from my chest cavity because I was having trouble breathing. Many tests and analyses followed and this afternoon I had another CT scan and spoke to a specialist. And there is still no answer, except for the very welcome news that the probability of its being cancer is low. If fluid does not accumulate again in the next few weeks, I should
    just move on and live with the mystery of this weeks long distress. If the fluid builds again, my’ chest cavity will once more be drained and more tests taken with no guarantee that an answer will be found. In the words of Oscar Hammerstein’s King of Siam “tis a puzzlement.”

    • 26 Nerdy Wonka
      June 16, 2015 at 5:11 pm

      Sending you continued positive thoughts, Jackie and thanks for the update.

      • 27 jackiegrumbacher
        June 16, 2015 at 5:16 pm

        Thanks, Nerdy. One of the bi- products of these weeks of misery is that I’m really tired a lot, so I’m going to focus on getting good rest and feeling better again.

    • June 16, 2015 at 5:12 pm

      I know it’s hard not to know what’s actually happening but at least one big fear has been removed.

      It is very odd that so much fluid is accumulating. That must make it very, very hard to breathe or sleep comfortably. I hope whatever it is heals and you can return to your normal active self. Please take good care. We will keep our fingers crossed for good progress.

    • 29 Judith Fardig
      June 16, 2015 at 5:13 pm

      Dear Jackie – so happy to hear that it’s not likely to be cancer. Hope you are truly on the mend now!

    • 30 mtmarilyn
      June 16, 2015 at 5:16 pm

      Oh Jackie, I hate mysteries like this. Pray it has all cleared up and will not accumulate again. Continues prayers for great health.

    • June 16, 2015 at 5:19 pm

      {{{Jackie}}} I can’t begin to imagine how stressful this must all be, especially the not knowing. Wonderful, though, that they’ve all but ruled out the main concern, so there’ll be comfort in that. But with all their knowledge and technology, it amazes me when they can’t diagnose complaints. Just take good care of yourself, and let this flippin’ misery GO AWAY!

      • 32 jackiegrumbacher
        June 16, 2015 at 5:24 pm

        The doctor told me there are over 200 possibilities for fluid buildup like mine and, unless it recurs, there isn’t a reason now to pursue every one of them. If it happens again, well that will be a different story.

        • June 16, 2015 at 5:26 pm

          200?! Good heavens. Okay, medicine is waaaaaay more complicated than I realized!

        • 34 vcprezofan2
          June 16, 2015 at 6:07 pm

          JackieG, joining others here to hope that the fluid build-up was a one-time occurrence and you’ll be rebuilding your strength even as we enfold you in our thoughts!

    • 35 Nena20409
      June 16, 2015 at 5:20 pm

      You are in my Thoughts and Prayers.
      {{{{{ ❤ Jackie ❤ }}}}}

    • 36 GGail
      June 16, 2015 at 5:25 pm

      {{{JG}}}, I’m glad that you have gone through this process of elimination and I hope that the fluid does not accumulate again in your chest.

    • June 16, 2015 at 6:36 pm

      Jackie,

      Like you, we are all relieved to hear that the probability of cancer is low; however, it is VERY human to want definitive answers — what the heck is going on… The mysteries of modern medicine… I swear, those old Grandmas and root women sometimes were more accurate than those docs with ‘fancy’ book learning… 😉

      I will continue to pray for your healing.

    • June 16, 2015 at 7:08 pm

      keeping you in my prayers JackieG

    • 39 MightyPamela
      June 16, 2015 at 7:21 pm

      _/I\_

    • June 16, 2015 at 7:57 pm

      I’m so sorry you are going through this. I will keep sending good, healing thoughts your way. Please be very gentle with yourself because healing is like mountain climbing for your body. It’s hard work.

    • 41 sjterrid
      June 16, 2015 at 8:44 pm

      {{JackieG}}, I hope that the injection you had last week ended the fluid buildup, and you will start to feel better. I will keep you in my thoughts and prayers. Thanks for the update.

  6. 42 Vicki
    June 16, 2015 at 5:01 pm

    On my way out, so here is my final comment on Bernie Sanders:
    Wrong on trade. Really, really wrong. Ignorant of how the world has changed and unwilling to get his head out of the sand.
    Wrong on race. Really, really wrong. Ignorant of what has been going on in the USA and without a giant mea culpa real soon, again unwilling to get his head out of his ass.

    • 43 jackiegrumbacher
      June 16, 2015 at 5:06 pm

      We are on the same wavelength on this, Vicki.

      • 44 carolyn
        June 16, 2015 at 5:29 pm

        I got a fundraising letter from Bernie, in which he told why PBO was WRONG on trade and WRONG on something else…..I didn’t even bother to read that part I was so angry. So, I unsubscribed and told him why. Told him that disrespecting the president and talking against him personally, not just on policy, was why I was unsubscribing. I informed him that without the Obama coalition he didn’t have a chance, and that he better brag about the President’s accomplishments if he wanted Democratic votes. I also told him I was a senior citizen white woman supposedly in his demographic, but he had totally lost any possibility of my vote and my husband’

        Vermont is so white, you need sunglasses at night. give me a break, Bernie, you know nothing about race in America.

  7. June 16, 2015 at 5:06 pm

    Hanging out in London!!

    • 47 jackiegrumbacher
      June 16, 2015 at 5:27 pm

      The Camerons seem to be entranced by Malia and our FLOTUS seems to be thinking, “That’s my girl.”

    • 50 idon
      June 16, 2015 at 5:34 pm

      Oh they are so gorgeous – very very classy.

    • 51 vcprezofan2
      June 16, 2015 at 6:13 pm

      I play this game when the Obama ladies are out together – seeing how there always seem to be some connection in their clothing. I picture them unconsciously coordinating their outfits. 😀 😀 For example in this picture I see the girls’ dresses picking up one of the colours from FLOTUS’ flowers. 😉

  8. 52 Nena20409
    June 16, 2015 at 5:29 pm

    I have never been fond of Senator Bernard Sanders.
    I have always had this uneasy feeling about him.
    I have always stayed away from making any comments here about him….be it pro or con.
    Now, that uneasiness is playing out publicly.
    When he was asked not too long ago about Police Brutality and the Treatment of AAs by the Law Enforcement…….those supporting him tweeted out a Singular Photograph of Mr. Sanders from 1963……claiming his participation during the 1963 March in DC. It puzzled me that a man of 73/74 yrs old……a proclaimed Socialist in 2015……all that could be referenced came from 1963? Hmm?

  9. 53 susanne
    June 16, 2015 at 5:30 pm

    the clown car just keeps throwing up idiots (including bernie). love this take on the donald’s emergence:

    http://www.esquire.com/news-politics/politics/a35740/donald-trump-presidential-run/

  10. June 16, 2015 at 5:39 pm

    Your afternoon / evening moment of zen.

    Thanks for the FP, Chips.

  11. 56 Nena20409
    June 16, 2015 at 5:46 pm

    Once a Crook, always a Crook?

  12. 58 JER
    June 16, 2015 at 5:49 pm

  13. 72 Nena20409
    June 16, 2015 at 5:50 pm

    Oh Really?
    Hastert’s conduct should and must be public………Not the names of the Victims.

  14. June 16, 2015 at 5:54 pm

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  16. 93 JER
    June 16, 2015 at 6:29 pm

  17. 94 GGail
    June 16, 2015 at 6:50 pm

    These folks will learn – don’t mess with the music!

    Billionaire Donald Trump, a Republican, announced his bid for the presidency with Neil Young’s “Rockin’ in the Free World” blasting in the background, and once again a political candidate has associated himself with a rock star without the endorsement of said star.

    “Donald Trump was not authorized to use ‘Rockin’ in the Free World’ in his presidential candidacy announcement,” Young, 69, told the Los Angeles Times on Tuesday through his longtime manager, Elliot Roberts. “Neil Young, a Canadian citizen, is a supporter of Bernie Sanders for president of the United States of America,” referring to the U.S. senator from Vermont who is vying for the Democratic nomination in 2016.

    http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/music/posts/la-et-ms-donald-trump-neil-young-rockin-free-world-20150616-story.html

    • 95 MightyPamela
      June 16, 2015 at 7:28 pm

      Please, Neil Young, file suit for copyright infringement, today! Remember who stole a song from Heart, and was busted instantly!? HaHa! I still have that newspaper clipping (somewhere). ❤

  18. 97 Don
    June 16, 2015 at 6:54 pm

    Why is everyone so shocked at Bernie Sanders comments, what, because he’s a Democrat and he’s a socialist? Just yesterday Hillary Clinton said that President Obama should “listen” to Nancy Pelosi, the dismissiveness, the out and out disrespect that this black man has been subjected to from his own party is enough to question what do White Liberals and White Democrats really think of this black man. Really Hillary, the black guy that’s cleaning up your husband mess, much like the custodians at the White House had to clean up your husband’s spunk on the fucking Oval office floor, need to be told by you of all people to listen to someone for advice? At this point in time I really don’t give a fuck who wins the White House after President Obama leaves. The socalled Democrats have already shown us what they think of this black man by the disrepect that they have subjected him to. So go right ahead on thinking that you can say the most disrespectful shit you can think to say about President Obama, and by extension black people. Some people here had already said that they plan to hold their nose and vote for Hillary, I’m not built like that. I can’t go out there and vote for Hillary after her and her husband have so throughly direspected President Obama. I really have to be able to look myself in the mirror, and if I can’t look myself in the mirror after voting for Hillary then I’m just can’t vote for her.

    • June 16, 2015 at 7:14 pm

      okkkkkk……….

      i feel the same as you….DON

    • June 16, 2015 at 7:19 pm

      Co signed and tweeting this …

    • June 16, 2015 at 7:22 pm

      tell it, Don.

      simply tell it.

    • 101 a4alice
      June 16, 2015 at 7:30 pm

      I just got my first email from someone across town who was a team leader for 2012. She asked me if I was “ready for Hillary”…….

      Nope.

    • 102 Vicki
      June 16, 2015 at 7:46 pm

      Don, your anger is righteous. I applaud it. I feel the same.

      But my conclusion is nospin’s down a bit. I will be happy to vote for a decent honest democratic candidate.
      But I have to do what I can to prevent the GOP back in the WH.
      Hence, even the most loathsome (to me) dem candidate will get my vote for Pres.

    • 103 derbingleguy
      June 16, 2015 at 8:16 pm

      She gets the nomination she gets my vote. If Mr Ed was running as a Democrat he’d get my vote. And I would have no problem looking myself in the mirror either knowing I saved the country from the nightmare of whatever Republican got the nomination.

  19. 104 nospin
    June 16, 2015 at 7:14 pm

    my vote is going to Joe Biden.

  20. June 16, 2015 at 7:17 pm

    TWEET OF THE DAY:

  21. June 16, 2015 at 7:23 pm

    MEDIA ALERT:

    TYRANT fans..

    It returns tonight at 10pm EST on F/X

  22. 108 EricFive
    June 16, 2015 at 7:28 pm

    Here’s my take on Bernie Sanders. He is a Socialist and will never be a candidate for President. Capitalism tops even racism in this racist ass country (see Montgomery Bus Boycott). As for his comments, I have long argued that racism exists on both the political left and right. More precisely, the acceptance of the doctrine of White supremacy exists across the political spectrum. Sanders’ comments reflect that mindset. Without the overwhelming support of African-American voters NO Democrat can win the presidency, that is political reality. Yet he covets the “White working class” voter who shun the Democrats and insults the voting bloc that is essential to his candidacy. It makes no rational sense, but then neither does the doctrine of White supremacy. Put simply, some voters are more important than others in these United States. Winning the White vote gives the victorious candidate more LEGITIMACY than had he won through a multiracial coalition (both Jimmy Carter and Bill Clinton were treated like usurpers by the Washington establishment and media). HRC has also been lamenting about the Dems loss of these White working class voters. HRC seems to be threading the needle better than Bernie, but their sentiments are identical. Dems don’t want to be seen as the Black folks party so they are willing to lose elections courting people who will never vote for them (see 2014 midterms). I think Bernie should be roundly criticized for his insulting comments. Silence gives legitimacy to those views and allows the eventual nominee to move to the right on civil rights issues.

    • 109 symmetry11
      June 16, 2015 at 7:33 pm

      “Dems don’t want to be seen as the Black folks party” <—-sad but true. They would rather hold on to a few white votes than have a true coalition of people that represent the entire country.

    • June 17, 2015 at 12:10 pm

      KABOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM……….

      SHOUT IT FROM THE DAMN MOUNTAIN TOP!!!
      and although i keep hearing that we should vote for the eventual DEM nominee because REPS are worse…however for a nominee that disses you…is not good politics…and i do not plan to do it…and know what i won’t be alone…

  23. 113 Don
    June 16, 2015 at 7:34 pm

    “Both Jimmy Carter and Bill Clinton were treated like usurpers by the Washington establishment and media.”

    I remember Clinton more so than Carter, which is why these comments by the Democrats are so hateful and disrespectful.

  24. 115 vcprezofan2
    June 16, 2015 at 7:36 pm

    Lisa Marie Rollins – the author of that trans-racial article Alycee shared earlier – speaking about her trans-racial life.

    • 116 vcprezofan2
      June 16, 2015 at 8:03 pm

      One of several honest commenters on the transracial article link ….

      ammcrae39p · 2 days ago
      I’m the white adoptive mother of a 41 yr. old Black-Vietnamese son who came to us when he was 9 mos. old. Three and a half years ago I found the son I had relinquished for adoption when he was 3 wks. old. I want to speak here to the issue of the transracial adoptee, not to speak for my son and others but to offer my perspective, developed over four decades, three of them in the South

      . Both of these men have taught me more about adoption and its effects in the last few years than the rest of my life put together, and the lessons have not been easy or comfortable. I admit that I was 90% wrong in adopting a foreign-born, mixed-race child. I’m guessing at the percentage, and I am not sorry that I had the chance to love this person and almost certainly give him a better chance at life than he would have had in the chaos that was the Vietnam he was born into. So that’s a definite plus. But when I consider what he lost–family, language, culture, sense of belonging–I feel guilty for taking all that from him. And what did he get? A family that never understood him. I knew absolutely nothing about the long-term consequences of adoption. If I had, I would never have relinquished my first son.

      We ended up living in the southern U.S., where he had to try to fit in with two alien cultures. To his whites classmates, he was a black kid. To his black friends, he was something different, someone who “talked white,” until he learned not to. He made the decision to join the black community, where he felt most comfortable, and I am glad he’s found friends and family who look like him.

      I was one of three white people who attended one of his weddings, and I felt not unwelcome, far from it, but definitely alien. That’s how my son felt every day of his life growing up in my home. When we adopted, I was aware that many Black social workers opposed transracial adoption. I thought they were being racist. I wanted an integrated America, and I thought mixing up skin colors within families was a way to achieve that. I was wrong.

      I confess I did very little to introduce my son to Black culture. His first years were spent in a multi-ethnic neighborhood in Canada, and perhaps if we had stayed there, things would have gone differently. But he grew to manhood in the American South, and that meant trouble. For so long I held my son completely responsible for that trouble. Now that I know what lay behind his behavior, I am ashamed at how I responded to him. I have liberal views and consider myself a progressive, but I’m no radical activist. I simply wanted to live my beliefs as authentically as possible, and that meant loving a Black child as my own. I believed love was the answer, the only one needed. I was wrong. Love is a great deal, essential, but it can’t do everything, and it is white arrogance that believes it can.

      In years past, I used to see multiracial families (obviously from adoption) and identify with them. “There’s another family like mine. How nice,” I’d think. Now I see adoptive families, transracial or not, and I see the loss, the heartache, the denial and struggle for normalcy, the good intentions, and the often disastrous outcomes. I love my son. I wish him only the best. But I know that I was never the one who could ensure that he would achieve HIS best. Oh, but there’s are lots of happy families and successful adoptions, you say? True. Most people, most of the time, will gravitate toward happiness like a plant toward the light. The adoptee has to lean farther, reach higher to reach the sun. His energy goes into distorting himself in order to get what he needs. He may produce a blossom, but it’s likely to be paler and smaller than had he been planted in his native soil.

      http://www.thelostdaughters.com/2015/06/transracial-lives-matter-rachel-dolezal.html?m=1

      • June 17, 2015 at 12:12 pm

        yanno…i am truly tired of the transracial shit

        • 118 vcprezofan2
          June 17, 2015 at 12:29 pm

          Since, for me, this is a ‘new’ term as used in relation to adoptees across races I admit I’ve been doing a little bit of educate-yourself research. Didn’t mean to tire you, or anyone, PF58 but message received. NP

          • June 17, 2015 at 12:31 pm

            this was not personal to you…i am just tired of the many ways that this country finds to marginalize blk people…i should have just kept it moving..

            • 120 vcprezofan2
              June 17, 2015 at 12:53 pm

              PF58, sometimes we *need* to say what’s on our minds, if only to release one of the several valves of pressure that life activates. Also, I happen to know that sometimes people perseverating on a subject can become ‘too much’. Hang tough – {{{{{Pf58}}}}}!

  25. 122 hopefruit2
    June 16, 2015 at 7:40 pm

    Food-Knoller alert!

  26. 124 MightyPamela
    June 16, 2015 at 7:45 pm

    O/T ~ Ramadan begins tomorrow night

  27. June 16, 2015 at 7:55 pm

    Please be safe out there!!


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