‘Capitalism tops even racism in this racist ass country’


by EricFive

Here’s my take on Bernie Sanders.

He is a Socialist and will never be a candidate for President.

Capitalism tops even racism in this racist ass country (see Montgomery Bus Boycott).

As for his comments, I have long argued that racism exists on both the political left and right.

More precisely, the acceptance of the doctrine of White supremacy exists across the political spectrum.

Sanders’ comments reflect that mindset.

Without the overwhelming support of African-American voters NO Democrat can win the presidency, that is political reality.

Yet he covets the “White working class” voter who shun the Democrats and insults the voting bloc that is essential to his candidacy.

It makes no rational sense, but then neither does the doctrine of White supremacy.

Put simply, some voters are more important than others in these United States.

Winning the White vote gives the victorious candidate more LEGITIMACY than had he won through a multiracial coalition (both Jimmy Carter and Bill Clinton were treated like usurpers by the Washington establishment and media).

HRC has also been lamenting about the Dems loss of these White working class voters.

HRC seems to be threading the needle better than Bernie, but their sentiments are identical.

Dems don’t want to be seen as the Black folks party so they are willing to lose elections courting people who will never vote for them (see 2014 midterms).

I think Bernie should be roundly criticized for his insulting comments.

Silence gives legitimacy to those views and allows the eventual nominee to move to the right on civil rights issues.



127 Responses to “‘Capitalism tops even racism in this racist ass country’”

  1. June 16, 2015 at 7:59 pm

    Are you in????!!!!

  2. June 16, 2015 at 8:01 pm

    Eric? You said it all – thank you for this.

  3. 17 japa21
    June 16, 2015 at 8:02 pm

    Could not believe it when I read Bernie’s comments earlier.

    • June 16, 2015 at 8:04 pm

      Me neither Japa – and if one more person tells me ‘but his state is mainly white’, like that’s an excuse, I will punch them.

      • 19 japa21
        June 16, 2015 at 8:17 pm

        The thing is, much of what he says has truth to it. The GOP has convinced white working class folks that their party is better for them and the Dems have lost a lot of those folks. But where he misses the point is that one of the main reasons for the loss of those voters is racism. It was a factor before 2008 and is more of a factor now. He could have done so much better but chose not to. And I do mean chose. And his words will be used against other Dems and POC whenever racism is pointed out.

        The GOP has always used the us vs them argument and we know whom they mean by “them”. The Dems do need to create a message that resonates with all working class folks and also create a us vs them argument, but in this case the “them” is the 1% that likes to view the rest of us a peons.

        Contrary to what Eric says, I think HRC is doing a much better job of explaining this issue and, quite honestly, is my preferred candidate of those who have declared, despite my reservations about her. She knows that going around calling people racists is not going to bring them to her side, so she is focusing on the populist issue more, trying to show the white working class that the have more in common with the African-American working class than they do the GOP.

        • June 17, 2015 at 12:25 pm

          She knows that going around calling people racists is not going to bring them to her side, so she is focusing on the populist issue more, trying to show the white working class that the have more in common with the African-American working class than they do the GOP.

          THEY WILL NEVER SEE THEIR COMMONALITY WITH BLK FOLKS….GIVE ME A BREAKKKKKKKKKKKK………all they do is double down on their white privilege and racism…

          PBOs time in office has proved this so very much…even now…with Congress…and the backstabbin dems….
          and the so called Political Left…enter Bernie Sanders…..

          HRC tack of trying to thread the needle with out taking on the issue is not going to work…because We See Her..

          it is not about calling folks racist it is about dealing with the structural pillars of racism….HRC and most Dems cover the issue…they cower from being straight about it..

      • 21 vcprezofan2
        June 16, 2015 at 10:19 pm

        But, his (Bernie’s) state IS mainly white. He has no black in him. /skedaddles/

  4. June 16, 2015 at 8:04 pm

    GEEZE, this just keeps getting worse..

    • 23 Judith Fardig
      June 16, 2015 at 9:04 pm

      This is delusional!!! Why deny to President Obama what every President except Nixon has been granted for decades? Eric’s post answers this question.

  5. 24 Nerdy Wonka
    June 16, 2015 at 8:05 pm

    Bravo, bravo, BRAVO, EricFive!!!!!

    1. “As for his comments, I have long argued that racism exists on both the political left and right. More precisely, the acceptance of the doctrine of White supremacy exists across the political spectrum.” – 100% truth. The left tries to do their best to hide it better than the right, but it is there and it STINKS.

    2. “Without the overwhelming support of African-American voters NO Democrat can win the presidency, that is political reality.” – 100% truth. Even in some Governors’ races. Exhibit A: Terry McAuliffe. Black Virginian women won him that governorship.

    3. “HRC has also been lamenting about the Dems loss of these White working class voters. HRC seems to be threading the needle better than Bernie, but their sentiments are identical.” – 100% truth. See 2008 and even before then.

    4. “Silence gives legitimacy to those views and allows the eventual nominee to move to the right on civil rights issues.” – 100% truth; and we definitely don’t need that. Not with the Voting Rights Act being gutted and horrific acts of police brutality.

  6. June 16, 2015 at 8:05 pm

    “It’s the latest summer blockbuster: A spiritual superhero armed with a pen and a prayer gears for battle against the forces of evil — energy executives. The future of the planet hangs in the balance. At least, that’s the premise behind a tongue-in-cheek trailer released ahead of Pope Francis’ widely anticipated statement on the environment this week.

    Made by a Brazilian environmental group, the trailer is playfully hyperbolic. (With Terminator-like intensity, the white-robed hero growls, “It’s time to take out the trash.”) But it nicely captures the hot air swirling around Francis’ encyclical, due to be published Thursday. Green groups eagerly await it, climate change skeptics can’t wait to rebut it, and GOP politicians approach it at their peril. On Monday, a leaked draft of the encyclical was published online by the Italian magazine L’Espresso. The Vatican said the document is only a draft and the rules of the embargo remain in place. Leaked documents or not, Francis remains enormously popular, and when he talks, world leaders — and the media — listen. This Pope doesn’t speak in sound bites; he speaks in headlines. With that in mind, here are answers to five key questions to help you cut through the hype about the Pope and climate change:

    1. What is an encyclical, and why are they important?

    Derived from the Greek word for “circle,” a papal encyclical is a letter from the pope to Catholic clergy and laypeople around the world. Often, the letters clarify Catholic doctrine, reiterate points of dogma and address contemporary issues through the light of church teachings. Pope Francis, though, has said he hopes his letter will reach a wider audience, including world leaders meeting for several key environmental summits this year. Encyclicals aren’t considered infallible (few papal documents are), but scholars say they are surpassed in importance only by papal bulls, which define dogma….continued”

  7. June 16, 2015 at 8:07 pm

    Did you know that Game of Thrones is secretly about the world’s terrible failure to stop climate change? Well, it is, and this video explains why:

    “The show’s much more entertaining stand-in for climate change is the White Walkers, the north-of-the-Wall monsters that command a gigantic zombie army. The White Walkers are a threat to all humanity: their zombie minions are equally happy to rip apart people of all nations and noble houses. Yet instead of uniting to combat the shared threat to human existence itself, the noble houses in the show spend basically all their time on their own petty disagreements and struggle for power. White Walkers are generally ignored; some nobles deny their existence outright. Swap climate change for White Walkers and “countries” for noble houses, and it starts to sound a lot like the real world.

    Specifically, it sounds like the problem of international coordination on climate change. No one country can prevent catastrophic warming on its own: every country that’s a major greenhouse gas emitter is part of the problem. Yet the biggest emitters, like the United States and China, are also geopolitical competitors: both are wary of the other’s intentions, making it hard for them to see any kind of deal that limits their emissions as win-win. And even if you get over the US-China hurdle, you have to get a deal that’s acceptable to most every other country in the world — including developing ones that need cheap energy to fuel economic growth…continued”

  8. 29 globalcitizenlinda
    June 16, 2015 at 8:13 pm

    I suspect I am in the minority (or alone) here but I have to represent Buckeye Nation and wish for a victory for Lebron and the Cavs tonight => “Let’s go Cavs”.

    People here are already walking around with grim faces or looking down in dejection.

    a couple of hours from now, I could be trying hard not to get angry at the OSU kids running around (half-dressed or naked) and falling into the waters of the Mirror lake just because the Cavs have fought back;

    moral to the story is to be careful what you wish for because behavior of drunk college kids can astound

    • 30 japa21
      June 16, 2015 at 8:34 pm

      You are not alone. Although I am not big on professional basketball, I am rooting for the Cavs. I think LeBron is a better player than Jordan could dream of being and, living in Chicago, I get sick and tired of hearing all the Jordan adulation.

      • 31 globalcitizenlinda
        June 16, 2015 at 8:43 pm

        thanks for publicly declaring your support;

        no doubt about it, he is a great player;

        I think that many who criticize LeBron forget how young he was when he joined the NBA;

        yes, he broke a lot of hearts when he left, but at least he is now mature enough to realize that his community needs his talents more than Miami does;

        I am also impressed by his continued involvement in the development of his community, his speaking out when it matters and will also never forget that he campaigned significantly for people to come out, register and vote;

  9. June 16, 2015 at 8:15 pm

    Oculus VR finally debuted the long-awaited consumer version of Oculus Rift, the virtual reality headset, at a media event in San Francisco. “For the first time we’ll finally be on the inside of the game,” Oculus CEO Brendan Iribe said onstage. “Gamers have been dreaming of this. We’ve all been dreaming of this for decades.” You can put it on just like a baseball cap,” Iribe said. Meanwhile, the headset is wrapped in a thin, soft fabric that Iribe suggested not only adds a layer of comfort for the user but also lends the device a more premium look. One surprise: A partnership with Microsoft. Rift will work natively with Windows 10, shipping July 29. Phil Spencer, Microsoft’s Head of Xbox, also revealed a wireless Xbox One controller and adapter that will come bundled with Rift. “The Xbox controller is the best in the world,” Iribe explained of the controller choice…Since not everyone has eyes that are the same distance apart, the final Oculus Rift will let you adjust the IPD (interpupillary distance) of the optics. There’s a little slider underneath the headset that lets you control the distance between the lenses….

    …Inside, there are a pair of low persistence OLED screens, one for each eye. “There’s no motion blur, no judder, no pixels,” says Oculus CEO Brendan Iribe. “It feels just like you’ve put on a pair of glasses.” The entire optics display is removable, too—allowing you to install a pair of lenses that better fit your face (I have an enormous nose, for instance) or have more room for a pair of spectacles…To access all that software, the company announced Oculus Home, a “portal to everything Oculus.” The online hub will offer VR previews to all games. Oculus founder Palmer Luckey rolled onstage to introduce the Oculus Touch controller: a set prototypes codenamed “Half Moon” that apparently enable the widest range of VR experiences yet. “You really need tracking to be perfect, accurate and low-latency, or you’re going to feel like your hands are dead,” said Luckey. To that end, Oculus Touch sports a matrix of sensors that accurately capture hand gestures like “pointing and waving.” Small Nintendo Wii-like straps for your wrist make sure you won’t accidentally toss or drop them in the middle of gameplay. “This isn’t science fiction; this is reality,” Luckey added. “And it’s happening today.”

    • June 16, 2015 at 8:16 pm

      This is so badass!!! It’s like Top Gun meets Star Wars:

    • 34 mtmarilyn
      June 16, 2015 at 8:26 pm

      LP, This is exciting and scary. For someone my age, I remember before TV. What has happened in my lifetime….

      • June 16, 2015 at 8:34 pm

        I’m thinking of all the other applications this can be used for once perfected besides gaming, (amateur/professional sports in link below) the military is already utilizing this for its training, you could train pilots, and now that Mark Zuckerburg bought the company he has enough cash to do even more R&D in fields like education (imagine the interest you could gauge in a student if this is one of the ways you were learning) ….as an added bonus when Auburn football started using this last year the sets were about $40,000…the new headset unveiled is only $350 bucks making it so much more accessible.

      • 36 jackiegrumbacher
        June 16, 2015 at 9:22 pm

        Mtmarilyn, the beauty of the pre-tv age, was that we all used our imaginations when we listened to radio, which made everything very vivid. Only us oldies remember those days, but I’m glad we got to experience them.

  10. June 16, 2015 at 8:15 pm

    What the Clintons did in 2014 with their protege Alison Grimes is all I need to know about our current political landscape w/r/t race. She couldn’t say whether she voted for PBO or if she would support the viability of ACA. She called herself a “Clinton Democrat.” All this while the Clintons stood idly by, smiling and blowing kisses.


    • 38 Don
      June 16, 2015 at 8:22 pm

      Like we are supposed to just overlook and accept some shit like that.

      • 39 Vicki
        June 16, 2015 at 8:41 pm

        I agree that we can’t and shouldn’t overlook the failure of the DNC and current candidates (BS & HRC) to move the party Away from racism and towards enthusiasm. The anti-black ugliness is a form of voter suppression and it sucks.

        Plus, we want to keep the WH.
        It is rare for a 2 term President to Also hold on to The Presidency. VPBiden following PBO would be a double win and another Legacy Builder.

        Think about who is deeply invested in causing PBO to fail.

        We who want The President to win, might consider toning down the rhetoric directed against our weak candidates.

      • 40 nospin
        June 16, 2015 at 8:49 pm


    • 41 derbingleguy
      June 16, 2015 at 8:34 pm

      A ridiculous statement which showed more her contempt for her fellow Kentuckians than PBO. Didn’t she think they knew who was currently President? I could have even given her a pass on that one but it was her refusal to embrace Kynect which has transformed her state when I knew she was destined to lose. To this day I still have no problem with McConnell cleaning her clock.

      • 42 derbingleguy
        June 16, 2015 at 8:41 pm

        That and her calling for General Shinseki’s resignation when she didn’t know what she was talking about. Not even McConnell went that far.

        “I’m not Barack Obama”. No Miss Grimes. You sure ain’t.

    • 43 nospin
      June 16, 2015 at 8:48 pm

      “What the Clintons did in 2014 with their protege Alison Grimes is all I need to know about our current political landscape w/r/t race. She couldn’t say whether she voted for PBO or if she would support the viability of ACA. She called herself a “Clinton Democrat.” All this while the Clintons stood idly by, smiling and blowing kisses. ”

      say it again meta

  11. June 16, 2015 at 8:18 pm

    “FAYETTEVILLE, Ark. — When he put on the mask and slipped on the headphones, Brandon Allen wasn’t sure exactly what he was getting into. Then it began — and he was “engulfed.” Arkansas’ senior quarterback is among a growing number who sees — and feels — the potential of virtual reality in college football. Created by STriVR Labs, a start-up company grown out of a former Stanford kicker’s Master’s thesis, the technology is still in its infancy. But the universal first impression of the virtual reality trainer is something like this: “It’s insane,” says Arkansas coach Bret Bielema, who adds: “This changes the game.” When Allen slipped on the gear — an Oculus Rift headset, followed by a nice set of headphones, he was suddenly standing not in the conference room adjacent to Bielema’s office, but in the quarterback’s position on the practice field. Looking straight ahead, and then scanning left and right, he recognized the defensive alignment and saw how the offense was arrayed. Then Allen turned around. Behind him, a running back awaited the snap….Seen initially as a way to train quarterbacks — mental exercises, in essence, to reinforce actual practice repetitions — the technology has already morphed into use with other positions.Enterprising coaches have brainstormed ways to employ virtual reality in recruiting, too. The current STriVR client list includes Stanford, Arkansas, Auburn, Clemson, Dartmouth and Vanderbilt, as well as the Dallas Cowboys.

    That’s nearing the limits of what Belch’s group can handle — at least for now. But it’s only the beginning….Bailenson’s research into how people learn in a virtual environment spans almost 20 years. He has consulted with the military; his lab has drawn visits from presidents of companies and countries. A few weeks after spending three hours in Bailenson’s lab, Facebook founder Mark Zuckerberg spent $2.3 billion to purchase Oculus….Everywhere STriVR was implemented last spring, someone seemed to come up with a new idea. Auburn quarterback Jeremy Johnson recalls the first play he saw, from a seven-on-seven drill shot during spring practice. “Once he cut the play on, I actually went through all my progressions,” Johnson says. “You really just scan the defense for all the coverages. Whatever coverage they roll to. You can see everybody. It’s like watching film, but you’re there. You see everything…The creativity wasn’t just limited to on-field usage. Bielema and Malzahn have seen value in recruiting, as well. In the not so distant future, assistant coaches could take laptops and headsets with them on the road. Without setting foot on the Arkansas campus, a recruit could be standing, at least virtually, in the locker room with potential teammates, listening to a pregame pep talk. Then he’s in the tunnel as the players storm onto the field, or on the sidelines. Then he’s in a team meeting — “second row, third chair to the right,” Bielema says — listening to Bielema speak. Bielema had Belch shoot video inside each of the Hogs’ meeting rooms during position meetings. “If we’ve got an offensive lineman (recruit) visiting in the middle of June, he can go into a meeting room (virtually) and feel like he’s sitting in that room,” Bielema says. “Just some crazy recruiting tools”

  12. 45 Don
    June 16, 2015 at 8:19 pm

    riiiiiight, and I’m supposed to run out and vote for Hills.

  13. 46 Nerdy Wonka
    June 16, 2015 at 8:19 pm


    • 47 Vicki
      June 16, 2015 at 8:44 pm

      I agree with all these tweets as far as content.
      I am just not sure that railing against Bernie who has no chance is wise

      • 48 EricFive
        June 16, 2015 at 9:47 pm

        What harm will come from calling out Bernie? Not calling him out mainstreams this POV in the Democratic party and gives the eventual nominee space to “distance” themselves from Black folks interests. Imagine a Dem candidate said that sexism is dead in America and the war on women is just a figment of females’ hysterical imagination. Would you be as cavalier in that situation? The attack on the voting rights of AAs is just as real as the attack on women’s reproductive rights in my opinion. Not wise to trivialize the concerns of others, especially in a supposed coalition.

  14. June 16, 2015 at 8:19 pm

  15. June 16, 2015 at 8:20 pm

    DUDETTE, this is for you!!

    • 52 arapaho415
      June 16, 2015 at 8:43 pm

      GA Meta,

      re: your comment earlier today:

      “House GOP is considering holding a vote maybe this week on a stand-alone TPA bill. GOP says they think they have the votes to pass it. So it look like they think the can detangle the TPA from the TAA. That would then require the Senate to figure out what to do with TAA at some other point in time.

      This possibility of this option was asked at the WH briefing today and Josh refused to discuss tactics and process until there is a clear path. Not sure how PBO would react to this idea. Dems would most certainly FREAK OUT…”

      Didn’t the House pass TPA last week after voting down TAA? The voting deadline for TAA has been pushed to the end of next month, and Highway funding expires a couple of months after that…

      Color me confused…

      • 53 Vicki
        June 16, 2015 at 8:46 pm

        Arapaho….go back and read meta’s explanations. She has a great grasp of this issue.
        I was totally confused but now, much clearer.

      • June 16, 2015 at 8:50 pm

        Because the Senate co-mingled TPA with TAA, the House vote for TPA was largely symbolic. It cannot stand alone. So they must vote on TAA and then take another vote on TPA. But now the House is considering decoupling the two by sending it back to committee to change the rule.

        • 55 arapaho415
          June 16, 2015 at 9:09 pm

          Thanks Vicki and Meta.

          Still doesn’t make sense to me, so I’ll go with Josh Earnest’s “legislative procedural snafu,” which the MSM mocks, but seems to describe the current process aptly and succinctly. 😉

      • June 16, 2015 at 8:55 pm

        I think this is merely a fallback position.

  16. June 16, 2015 at 8:22 pm

  17. 59 globalcitizenlinda
    June 16, 2015 at 8:35 pm

    Something continues to bother me:

    when people categorize the nation into racial minorities versus working class, does this not imply that we racial minorities don’t work?

    if we are not working class, then which class are we really?

    how is that different from coming out and calling us “free-loaders” or “lazy” in much the same way as the gop proudly does?

    • 60 EricFive
      June 16, 2015 at 9:36 pm

      That is exactly what they are implying. Racist dog whistle bullshit to stroke the ego of working class whites.

    • 61 vcprezofan2
      June 16, 2015 at 11:00 pm

      ‘does this not imply that we racial minorities don’t work?’

      GCLinda, that was exactly the first thing that jumped out at me the first time I read Sanders’ comment, even before the ‘overcome racism’ piece! I chose not to join the discussion however, as I have been trying to control my negative feelings towards Bernie, which are stronger than those towards HRC.

  18. June 16, 2015 at 8:42 pm

    I have never consider voting for Bernie Sanders, my opinion he is just a waste of time.

  19. 65 amk for obama
    June 16, 2015 at 8:44 pm

    the left (clintons, o’malley, sanders) suck at southern strategy, don’t they?

    at least, south africa was overt about its racism.

    • 66 Vicki
      June 16, 2015 at 8:49 pm

      Yes, dems suck.
      It sickens me to see this is the path they have chosen.
      They really want to lose.

  20. June 16, 2015 at 8:47 pm

    VP Joe’s speech today.

  21. 77 Vicki
    June 16, 2015 at 8:52 pm

    Time for basketball.
    See you later.

  22. 78 globalcitizenlinda
    June 16, 2015 at 8:52 pm

    I am not surprised that the black people with megaphones, who have always been so quick to criticize POTUS and even question his “blackness” and commitment to the concerns of the black community, are now trying to find all kinds of theoretical constructs to defend a person who has openly lied about her race etc

    • 79 Nerdy Wonka
      June 16, 2015 at 8:55 pm

      Yup. It’s predictable.

      Grifters gotta grift.

    • 80 Don
      June 16, 2015 at 9:04 pm

      Preach! They will give this person that lied about her race and everything else the benefit of the doubt before they believe anything President Obama says.

  23. 81 Nerdy Wonka
    June 16, 2015 at 8:55 pm

  24. June 16, 2015 at 9:00 pm

    Bernie and Hills prove it, every day …..

  25. 85 desertflower
    June 16, 2015 at 9:13 pm

    Add this to the conversation: http://immasmartypants.blogspot.com/2015/06/recognizing-new-america.html

    America will soon belong to the men and women — white and black and Latino and Asian, Christian and Jew and Muslim and atheist, gay and straight — who can walk into a room and accept with real comfort the sensation that they are in a world of certain difference, that there are no real majorities, only pluralities and coalitions. The America in which it was otherwise is dying, thank god, and those who relied on entitlement and division to command power will either be obliged to accept the changes, or retreat to the gated communities from which they wish to wax nostalgic and brood on political irrelevance.

    You want to lead in America? Find a way to be entirely utilitarian — to address the most problems on behalf of the most possible citizens. That works. That matters…

    -David Simon

    • 86 nospin
      June 16, 2015 at 9:21 pm

      They lost me with “As Hillary Clinton prepared to announce her candidacy for president, she chose that “entirely utilitarian” approach of reaching out to the Obama coalition with proposals on things like police, criminal justice and immigration reform – as well as messages that resonate across the board on concerns about growing income inequality in this country.”

      What a crock of shyte

    • 87 jackiegrumbacher
      June 16, 2015 at 9:32 pm

      DF, I wish with all my heart that the first sentence were true, but the ones who are NOT comfortable in a world of certain difference seem to outshout the ones who are. They may be dying, but they won’t go down without a lot of noise and violence.

      • 88 EricFive
        June 16, 2015 at 9:59 pm

        No group ever gives up power (real or perceived) without a fight. Those who benefited under the status quo will use every trick in the book (and make up a few along the way) to stay in power.

  26. June 16, 2015 at 9:21 pm

    • 90 jackiegrumbacher
      June 16, 2015 at 9:34 pm

      Meta, this is an absolutely brilliant tweet. The members of Congress have no idea how ridiculous they appear to the rest of us.

  27. 91 amk for obama
    June 16, 2015 at 9:21 pm

    • 92 amk for obama
      June 16, 2015 at 9:24 pm

      and here I thought 2012 rethug presidential field was the worst racist clusterfuck.

    • 93 jackiegrumbacher
      June 16, 2015 at 9:39 pm

      AMK, my SIL actually had the intestinal fortitude to listen to the whole Trump announcement and said she was absolutely fascinated by the utter egotism of the man. Said it was as if he was giving a testimony to his own total self love.

  28. 94 JER
    June 16, 2015 at 9:24 pm

    For GGail and Everybody doing the rain dance for tomorrow night.

    Thunderstorms in the area late tomorrow night through Thursday afternoon. http://www.accuweather.com/

    Cloudy with showers. Chance of rain 60%. Rainfall may reach one inch. http://www.weather.com/

  29. June 16, 2015 at 9:28 pm

    So G.W. little brother suppose to be on Jimmy Fallon show and he will be slow jamming. How about that folks? What will we see next Jeb’s wife doing the evolution of mom dance. These same folks who criticize POTUS and FLOTUS will do their best to copy them, but it won’t work because none of them have it like our POTUS and FLOTUS.

  30. 99 nospin
    June 16, 2015 at 9:28 pm

    oh yes they did but I am confident POTUS has an ace up his sleeve.

    “Nancy Pelosi: I didn’t knife Obama on trade

    By Adam B. Lerner

    Nancy Pelosi does not think Democrats’ vote against President Barack Obama’s trade agenda was a form of betrayal, she said Tuesday during an interview with CNBC.

    “That’s not fair,” the House minority leader said of headlines that she had “knifed” Obama on one of his top legislative priorities, the Trans-Pacific Partnership. “I certainly trust the president and I think all of our members trust the president. We disagree with the president on that because this TPP has not even been completed.”

    Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2015/06/pelosi-i-didnt-knife-obama-on-trade-119076.html#ixzz3dHKgQiIk

  31. 104 Dudette
    June 16, 2015 at 9:28 pm

  32. June 16, 2015 at 9:29 pm

    My respect for Pelosi have gone down.

    • June 16, 2015 at 9:33 pm

      It seems like she’s just flailing now, proposing involving the UN on trade deals and eliminating fast-track. These ideas are just nuts. It feels like she’s just throwing whatever at the wall to see what will stick. Very uncharacteristic of her.

      • 108 nospin
        June 16, 2015 at 9:40 pm

        someone clearly got to her and she screwed up and I bet she knows it….but she can still fix it. My hope is she will do the right thing and fix it.

        • 109 derbingleguy
          June 16, 2015 at 9:46 pm

          I’ve never seen her like that. She really came off terrible and it was pretty obvious there was no way she could defend her actions. .

    • 110 misspat
      June 16, 2015 at 9:51 pm

      She took money; that has to be it. Mine is gone down too.

  33. 111 derbingleguy
    June 16, 2015 at 9:34 pm

    I’m feeling better about TPP. It just dawned on me how liked and respected PBO is across the globe. I can see Asia-Pacific leaders on the phone right now asking him what he needs from them. It’s going to burn House Dems britches that PBO is going to negotiate a great deal anyway because he’s got it like that.

  34. 112 carolyn
    June 16, 2015 at 9:38 pm

    I just received a call from the DCCC…..a very nice young lady. My gift would be double matched…..I just couldn’t pledge, and I spent two or three minutes telling her why. I told her all the things we talk about….disrespect, distancing like Alison Grimes, Nancy Pelosi’s latest, and asked her please to convey these feelings to those that matter. I told her the best thing the Democratic party has going for it is President Obama, not Hillary Clinton, not Bernie Sanders, and I told her I represented thousands of loyal Obama Democrats, and I was just too angry to pledge tonight. She said she’d call me back…..she said she would convey my feelings. I know my call was recorded…..it needs to be played to a lot of people. I told her I agreed with everything she said about the Republicans, but I am so disgusted with the Democrats I can’t give right now. I felt bad because she was so nice, but those people need to know what’s happening out here in the “heartland.”

    • 113 0388jojothecat
      June 16, 2015 at 9:44 pm

      Good for you Carolyn. I did the same thing awhile ago when an elderly AA man called from the DCCC. I told him I will have to give to the individual candidate since they give money to Allison Grimes and other Democrats who can’t and won’t mention PBO’s accomplishments. They can get their money from PUMAS for all I care.

    • 114 jackiegrumbacher
      June 16, 2015 at 9:45 pm

      Good for you, Carolyn. All Democratic fundraising groups need to know there are consequences to Dems’ actions or lack of them.

    • 115 Vicki
      June 16, 2015 at 9:50 pm

      Bravo, Carolyn!

    • June 16, 2015 at 9:58 pm

      Been telling them this since last November. I don’t answer the phone anymore, mail gets immediately recycled. Step on PBO/VPBiden, you catch my wrath !!

    • 117 jacquelineoboomer
      June 16, 2015 at 11:31 pm

      Excellent, carolyn! Thank you. Hope your message is heard over and over.

  35. 118 vcprezofan2
    June 16, 2015 at 9:46 pm

    • 119 Obama Grandmama
      June 16, 2015 at 10:21 pm

      Sometimes I feel like Hillary is setting her agenda more like a First Lady than a President. Her goal is the same as Michelle’s Let Girls Learn push. Her income inequality message is the same that PBO has been saying his entire time in office.

      • 120 vcprezofan2
        June 16, 2015 at 10:28 pm

        My honest opinion is that Hillary may *want* to be president but I do not see much that is presidential in her manner or in her goals. [It’s easier to make a statement like this having PBO’s template.] I do believe she craves it for the spotlight, for the idea of being 1st female pres. She has no passion in her soul for #wethepeople that I can see. I agree with you about her ‘First Lady’ agenda. Come to think of it, what is *her* First Lady legacy? What was she passionate about then? What did she do for *others* that did not bring her more glory than it brought the recipients more progress?

  36. 121 amk for obama
    June 16, 2015 at 9:46 pm

    Amazing how the dem political establishment doesn’t see how all their ‘distancing from Obama’ statergy has paid them jacksquat since 2010. Loss of house, loss of senate, loss of governerships, the list goes on.

    • 122 nospin
      June 16, 2015 at 9:50 pm

      amk I am also stunned at the level of willful ignorance and the desire to jump off the cliff as if they are lemmings rather than face the fact that they should embrace the Obama strategy……no logic at all. The level of stupidity is absolutely stunning.

    • 123 amk for obama
      June 16, 2015 at 9:50 pm

      Contrast this with the kenyan winning two times amidst all the gazillions from the billionaires on both sides, 24×7 msm shilling for rethugs, racist antics from both sides.

    • 124 derbingleguy
      June 16, 2015 at 9:51 pm

      This right here.

  37. 126 vcprezofan2
    June 16, 2015 at 9:49 pm

  38. 127 jacquelineoboomer
    June 16, 2015 at 11:27 pm

    Why is it that Bernie, Elizabeth, and Hillary all feel the need to point their bony fingers at us or in the air at imaginary people, when they rant? Sorry, but that drives me crazy.

    Not sure where I saw it – here or on twitter – but I also agree with whoever said that all these Dem candidates or non-candidates want to do is “fight.” But that President Obama doesn’t fight … he just comes up with a plan and gets the plan accomplished. Love that, so congrats to whoever said it (although mine isn’t a direct quote of what ya said, obviously!).

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