Chat On

Like he ever expected loyalty and trust from Dems…..

106 Responses to “Chat On”

  1. June 12, 2015 at 2:50 pm

    See ya later everyone – PS **** the Dems

  2. 3 globalcitizenlinda
    June 12, 2015 at 3:00 pm

    Well, a day will come when Dems wish they had trusted THIS POTUS who would fight for their interest & those of the nation, during international trade negotiations. If I am PBO, i would permanently ignore these suckers & not do ANYTHING for them again – let Trumka & EW help them!

  3. 4 vcprezofan2
    June 12, 2015 at 3:01 pm

    O-ho. Does this mean they didn’t come through with the vote? I’m dancing in and out again today.

    • June 12, 2015 at 3:08 pm

      Hi VC. Bobfr posted this in the last thread

      They’re voting on the Senate passed legislation in 3 parts:

      1 TAA – failed by large margin
      2 TPA – passed
      3 Trade Enforcement and Customs – will pass

      Nothing can go to the President until all three parts are passed, one way or another. Boehner filed a motion to reconsider on the TAA so they are going to vote it again, at some point. He better learn how to count votes before that happens.


      It appears TAA failed because Speaker Barfly tried to slip in a poison pill. Cutting Medicare or some such nonsense. Pelosi wasn’t buying it so it got voted down. We’ll see what happens next week.

      • 6 57andfemale
        June 12, 2015 at 3:11 pm

        So THIS is why the emoprogs are saying that they have “defeated” TPA: without all three things, there is no TPA. Thanks to Bobfr, and I was on my way to reposting this and noticed you had already done so.

        This is a royal mess.

      • June 12, 2015 at 3:18 pm

        The Medicare stuff had already been taken out before the vote but Pelosi still voted against it.

        • June 12, 2015 at 3:20 pm

          Thanks Meta. So why on earth did she vote against it. The TAA is what Democrats wanted. What’s her reasoning?

          • June 12, 2015 at 3:28 pm

            I think it will become clearer in the days ahead but it could be:

            1) Dems don’t want any trade deal whatsoever due to NAFTA hangover and fear of Trumka, who has been issuing direct threats to all of them.
            2) There is some behind-the-scenes deal-making going on to sweeten the deal. We’re already seeing Pelosi floating the highway bill.
            3) BOTH

      • 15 vcprezofan2
        June 12, 2015 at 3:25 pm

        Heartfelt THANKS, Derbingle! I hate when I have little choice but to sashay in and out on days when important stuff is going on – both in my life as well as *here*.

      • 16 sherijr
        June 12, 2015 at 4:00 pm

        lthank you DerBingle for the explanation, appreciate this.

      • 17 globalcitizenlinda
        June 12, 2015 at 5:45 pm

        Thanks a lot for that clarification

  4. 18 globalcitizenlinda
    June 12, 2015 at 3:02 pm

    Mark my words, now Hillary, who has been very silent on TPP, will come out against it

  5. June 12, 2015 at 3:07 pm

    The press seems to be sooooo elated that the TAA has failed so they can offer up criticism based twisted azz logic. When you listen to those Presstitutes, you realize they have no understanding about legislative process and procedures. That’s a damn shame.

    The Presstitutes are so blinded by their desire to criticize President Obama, their ignorance is on full display.

  6. 25 Obama Grandmama
    June 12, 2015 at 3:09 pm

    Seems I missed something, did the vote go down against PBO?

  7. June 12, 2015 at 3:13 pm

    Testing….will probably go to spam which all my comments in the last hour have made their way into oblivion 😦

    USWNT plays Sweeden tonight at 8 EST in Winnipeg….if they win they move to the round of 16…. BTW Sweeden is coached by the last U.S. Women’s team coach Pia Sundhage and she has been talking crap about her former players…says Tobin Heath basically sucks…and Abby Wambach wouldn’t even start if she was still coach. SMH

  8. June 12, 2015 at 3:14 pm

    This is what’s going on behind the scenes:

  9. June 12, 2015 at 3:16 pm

    Hillary’s new coalition….un freaking believable!

  10. June 12, 2015 at 3:18 pm

  11. 38 Vicki
    June 12, 2015 at 3:21 pm

    This is a variation on a theme.
    Dems whining about Obamacare. Or frowning when asked about it and saying they support improvements. PBO has asked them what improvements they are talking about as he will also support anything that covers More people at Lower costs.
    Those dems, including HRC never seem able to offer any improvements. Just their disdain.

    That is the template that got us 2010 and 2014. Same forces operating today.

    Nancy today advocated for “slowing trade down.” She succeeded.

    Bob got the facts exactly right. I think we all agree on that.

    It is the larger meaning behind backstabbing PBO that I think we need to talk about.

  12. June 12, 2015 at 3:21 pm

    1/2 avoiding spam….lets see if I can make my batting average HOF #’s .666

    Forget the GOP, this is who POTUS backstabbing P.O.S. *allies* are

  13. June 12, 2015 at 3:26 pm

    Thank you BT who freed me from (WP) hell….I’m going to go watch the new season of OITNB, because I’m bout to pull all my hair out!!!

  14. 48 Don
    June 12, 2015 at 3:32 pm

    It is official! These motherfuckers have worked my last nerve!

  15. 49 Judith Fardig
    June 12, 2015 at 3:35 pm

    From Congressman Blumenauer’s office in Portland: A huge block of Democrats voted NO on TAA even though there was no poison pill in it and that’s the part they ostensibly like, as a tactic to defeat TPA since the two have to pass together to match the Senate’s action. They have given in to the pounding they are being subjected to by labor and the far left/environmentalists. The re-vote on Tuesday may not change much since the GOP hates TAA and too many short-sighted Democrats still want to sink the whole thing. That’s what Nancy Pelosi meant by “slowing down” “fast track”.

    A stand-alone TPA could still pass if they start from scratch in the Senate and don’t link it to anything else.

    Way to go, purist lefties. Ugh!

  16. 50 jziglar
    June 12, 2015 at 3:37 pm

    Democrats haven’t been loyal to a democratic president over the past 70 years. If you look back in history you will find democrats turning their backs on democratic presidents because of some pet issue.

    • 51 Don
      June 12, 2015 at 3:44 pm

      Oh really, over 70 years you say? Ask Bill Clinton if the Democrats turned their back on him after he made an episode of HBO’s “Cathouse” in the oval office.

      • June 12, 2015 at 3:50 pm

        Clinton might not be able to but Carter could tell you some horror stories. A Dem House and Senate destroyed his Presidency. They also gave him a challenger in the primaries. A sitting President of their own party. Yikes.

        • 53 hopefruit2
          June 12, 2015 at 6:19 pm

          Carter was not NEARLY as effective a President as PBO. Sure he wasn’t a bad President, but PBO is by FAR the superior of the two. At this point in the game, there should be no question among Dems as to whether or not they support this man’s policies.

          • 54 derbingleguy
            June 12, 2015 at 6:29 pm

            Nobody is on PBO’s level imo but Dems still gave Carter the blues.

            • 55 hopefruit2
              June 12, 2015 at 6:46 pm

              I agree they treated Carter badly. But it’s 40-50 some odd years later; we’ve been through the horrors of Reagan, GWB/Cheney et al., and you would think they’d learn a few lessons by now?

  17. 57 edp4bho
    June 12, 2015 at 3:43 pm

    I feel for all you Dems who will support “whatever” Dem candidate happens to be the nominee just to avoid electing a rethug. I understand your sentiment, but count me out. No Dem who doesn’t support PBO’s efforts to modernize the nation’s workforce will ever get my vote. I’ve been black and struggling a long time, and will re-adapt to a POS president if it comes down to it. No vote from me if you can’t support me.

  18. 59 globalcitizenlinda
    June 12, 2015 at 3:47 pm

    I need to chill and keep my blood pressure down – clearly my heart can’t handle political gamesmanship

  19. June 12, 2015 at 3:50 pm

    One last thing to show what a bunch of frauds the House Dems are:

    …from WSJ article I tweeted above

    “Liberals had fought him, vowing to vote against the workers-aid program as part of a strategy to sink the entire fast-track bill, also known as Trade Promotion Authority. But until Mrs. Pelosi came out against the workers-aid program, it was unclear whether the progressive strategy had a chance of success. “He was very emotional,” said Rep. Steve Israel (D., N.Y.) in describing Mr. Obama. “He was more passionate than I’ve ever seen. ********The three words that he repeated throughout he speech were ‘play it straight.’ Which meant that if you’re a Democrat and you support TAA, you cannot be against TAA. And he was clear on that…he was clearly annoyed at the imputing of people’s motives, and the imputing of his motives on this*****….continued”


    so sick of the stupid MF games the D’s are playing all while giving the *media* and GOP scumbags the ability to impugn the President and label him as a lame duck…at least when the Senate did this it was actually related to the trade deal.

    • June 12, 2015 at 3:53 pm

      This is why this is especially hurtful to those of us who support and love and trust President Obama. I cannot imagine how disappointed he must be.

      • 62 Vicki
        June 12, 2015 at 4:03 pm

        yes, meta. I, too am against sugarcoating how dreadful this vote against PBO is.

      • June 12, 2015 at 4:04 pm

        It is sad and infuriating on so many levels….I tried stepping away from my computer but was unsuccessful…..backing away slowly now, Meta!

        F***em…you reap what you sow.

        • June 12, 2015 at 4:07 pm

          Well, I think Josh was saying that POTUS did not want to move without TAA but would not commit to saying that outright. I don’t see him doing this, but I guess we’ll have to see. One thing I do know, he will not bluff.

        • June 12, 2015 at 4:11 pm

          I’m also trying to walk away but I can’t seen to do it!

    • June 12, 2015 at 3:57 pm

      YES, POTUS asked them to play it straight, to not vote against TAA as a way to undermine and defeat TPA. That was a very slimy tactic and they USED IT ANYWAY. I cannot believe the disrespect of these people!!!

    • 67 Vicki
      June 12, 2015 at 4:02 pm

      I am on the same page as you, lovelyplains. Not for the first time. In an unrelated matter—–Boy, was I wrong to worry about Iguadola!!! Did you see him last night???

      • June 12, 2015 at 4:08 pm

        You remember when asked who I was pulling for? I said a seven-game series, but I singled out Iguadola & Harrison Barnes in that same comment….they came through last night big time. That was Andre’s first start ALL YEAR!!!

        • June 12, 2015 at 4:13 pm

          It’s been a gut wrenching but a great series! LeBron was fatigued and banged in the head. The Warriors needed this win.

        • 72 Vicki
          June 12, 2015 at 4:21 pm

          I said then and I say now—the Cavs in 6. Lebron toughing it out because if he went for treatment he could not have come back into the game. WARRIOR!!!!

          I am Rooting for GS. But i will stick with my first prediction.
          LP, I hope you and meta are right.

          • June 12, 2015 at 4:29 pm

            Well, the interesting thing is how Steph has lost his mojo. I don’t get what’s happening with him but if he shows up. then they WIN it.

          • June 12, 2015 at 4:30 pm

            Technically he could’ve gone for treatment…the NBA rule is if you are intentionally/flagrant fouled then somebody can shoot free throws for you, but if it is a regular foul (like the one Bogut did which landed Lebron’s head on a camera) then he has to shoot the FT’s and then he could go get stitched up and come back in….pay no attention to me I’m so riled up I’m being nit-picky 😀

            • 75 Vicki
              June 12, 2015 at 4:58 pm

              You are not too picky. LeBron HAD to shoot the free throws because if he exited Then, he couldn’t re-enter game.
              He could have left After the FT. I believe he didn’t do that because he didn’t care to hear the doctors opinions.
              LeBron intended to Stay in the game and he did that.
              Full credit and respect are due.

              • 76 Vicki
                June 12, 2015 at 5:00 pm

                LP, I live for facts. Never too picky for me when you are discussing NBA rules.

                • June 12, 2015 at 10:39 pm

                  Thanks for understand my mini for no real reason rant, Vicki 🙂 One part of the rule I did leave out by accident is if it was a flagrant/intentional foul and Lebron left to get stitches someone could have shot his FT’s and he could return, but the caveat is that GS HC Steve Kerr would get to choose who from the Cavs shot them, not Coach Blatt.

  20. June 12, 2015 at 3:53 pm

  21. 79 Vicki
    June 12, 2015 at 3:59 pm

    Is may be helpful to remember that many of the Emoprogs were GOP at one time. Markos who owns Daily Kos, Ed Schultz, Glenn Greenwald are the first who come to mind. They are the tea party in different clothing.

    This is TheObamaDiary. I think what unites us is our devotion to President Obama. Surely, that is what keeps me here.
    That is not the same thaing as being called TheDemocraticDiary.

    We have corporate dems that live to defeat PBO. They want to keep their funding and their jobs. They care very little about helping PBO, the American People or the Democrats in power.

    The people who pay them are the only interest they care about.

    That is the rational explanation for today’s humiliation of Our President although i get why we are having trouble facing this ugly truth set of circumstances. it is soothing to try to minimize betrayal. And it helps to feel that in the end The President will get his way.
    He will. No doubt.

  22. June 12, 2015 at 4:05 pm

    Trying to HOPE:

    First take: Can Obama’s trade deal be salvaged?

    WASHINGTON — House Democrats overwhelmingly rejected a key provision in President Obama’s trade deal Friday. And for a moment at least, a cornerstone of Obama’s second-term legacy appeared to be in ruins.

    And then Obama’s agenda was dramatically salvaged — for the moment — by House Republicans.

    The trade deal is not a done deal. But it’s not dead, either.


    That vote came moments after House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif., announced her own opposition to the plan, even after she had worked to pave the way for its passage all week. Without her support, conservative House Republicans bailed, reasoning that they no longer had any reason to go along with a program that necessitated an increase in taxes (through an increase in the late-filing fee) to make a trade vote more palatable to Democrats. So there were really only two possible outcomes going into the vote: It would either pass by one vote, or it would fail overwhelmingly. Pelosi stood on the tipping point.

    And because the trade adjustment assistance provision was an indispensable part of the Senate-passed package, Obama’s trade agenda appeared to be dead. Without trade adjustment assistance, there would be no vote on a “fast-track” trade promotion authority. And without fast-track, there would likely be no Trans-Pacific Partnership.

    Game. Set … What now?


    Pelosi suggested one path out of the tangle: Tying passage of the trade deal to a job-creating highway bill that Democrats would support.


    But half an hour later, White House Press Secretary Josh Earnest entered the room with a smile, putting an optimistic face on the extraordinary series of events in Congress, dismissing the initial rebuke by House Democrats as another “procedural snafu.”

    “We’re obviously gratified that we were able to advance that legislation with bipartisan support,” he said, noting that the 28 House Democrats who voted for fast-track bill “exceeded expectations.” The Democratic magic number was assumed to be closer to 20.

    “That’s a strong endorsement of the president’s strategy,” Earnest said. “But what I would concede is that our work is not done yet.”


  23. 82 Vicki
    June 12, 2015 at 4:15 pm

    The poison pills had been removed and the dems voted “No” anyway. One of the poison pills concerned cutting medicare. it was gone when the vote was held.
    Just to be clear.
    The manipulating going on now will not erase the headlines that say Democrats Beat PBO. That was what they wanted and that is what they got.

    I believe that eventually PBO will get to do what he knows is right. The President gave this effort all he could and my heart breaks for him.

  24. 86 Judith Fardig
    June 12, 2015 at 4:17 pm

    Taking a break to calm down. Hang in there, pals!

  25. 87 globalcitizenlinda
    June 12, 2015 at 4:18 pm

    Let the record show that i really hate these instances where PBO and his advisors decide that he has to go to Capitol Hill PUBLICLY beg Dems to do the right thing. It gives them power to humiliate him. On the other hand, i know that all the media outlets, that are currently proclaiming : “a stunning defeat for PBO from members of his own party”, will not say a word if this were to pass later on

  26. 90 amk for obama
    June 12, 2015 at 4:20 pm

    The trade deal happens under a dem prez or under a rethug prez. Your choice, dems.

  27. 91 desertflower
    June 12, 2015 at 4:24 pm

    This is what happens when the people we elect are more concerned with THEIR ASSES, than MINE.

  28. 93 JER
    June 12, 2015 at 4:32 pm

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  30. 98 0388jojothecat
    June 12, 2015 at 4:34 pm

    That is why I delete and ignore all DEM request for money…..they can go “F” themselves…..

  31. June 12, 2015 at 4:40 pm

    • 103 vcprezofan2
      June 12, 2015 at 5:03 pm

      Hope this doesn’t mean you’ve been drinking more in the last year or two to compensate for having had to wait till you were 21!!

  32. June 12, 2015 at 4:45 pm

    BTW VC….I just saw your comment upthread (notifications and ~80% of (wp) still not working on my end)…but stop confusing me with LL 😎

    Wednesday!!!! This is going to be right after the Tuesday re-vote….I’m preparing a speech in my head of all the shit I will be saying to those maggot members of my party in front of their families….just go all “Luther the angry translator” for me Mr. President!!!!!

  33. 106 globalcitizenlinda
    June 12, 2015 at 4:46 pm

    In foreign policy it is always : remember Vietnam for a generation of ppl; in trade policy, it seems it will always be : remember NAFTA

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