‘Shoot To Kill: A US Horror Story’


In case you missed it, stunning work by The Guardian: see here


78 Responses to “‘Shoot To Kill: A US Horror Story’”

  1. 11 Nerdy Wonka
    June 1, 2015 at 8:23 pm

    Oh. My. God.

    This is beyond horrific.

    I thank the Guardian for taking the time to show the world the horror that is police brutality and the resulting seismic effects.

    Thanks Chips, for featuring this important work.

    • June 1, 2015 at 8:36 pm

      Nerdy, I’ve just been reading through some of the victims’ stories on the Guardian site and you’d be left in despair. The number of times police claimed the victim was threatening so they shot him/her dead, and that was it, end of story … after all we’ve seen, you wonder how many of those cases were plain old murder? And in so many of the stories it seemed like the victims, some of them evidently mentally ill, could easily have been disabled by the cops, by taser or shots to the legs. But time and again trigger happy cops just gunned them down. And nothing is done because the victims were usually poor, their families’ powerless to demand the truth, and nobody giving a shit about them, least of all the media. What a ****ing world.

      • June 1, 2015 at 9:27 pm

        Let me be really clear, from the perspective of someone who was trained to shoot all kinds of weapons, in the vast majority of these reported shootings/killings, a single shot to the hip would have been the maximum response required to disable the presumed criminal.

        If you are not well enough trained to direct your fire, you have ZERO qualifications for wearing a badge.

        Only in instances where the presumed criminal is directing fire at you, such as recently happened to NYPD Officer William Bratton, are you justified in using whatever force is necessary to defend yourself.

        Moreover, we are witness – with Bundy and with the Phoenix bigger criminal instances – to enormous restraint from the cops. Of course, it’s because of one and only one reason, the (actual) criminals were white.

        • June 1, 2015 at 9:28 pm

          ‘biker’ not ‘bigger’

        • June 1, 2015 at 9:45 pm

          “a single shot to the hip would have been the maximum response required to disable the presumed criminal”

          Exactly what I was wondering reading through all these cases, Bob. There are, of course, lots in the list where the cop(s) probably had no choice but to shoot and kill, and I’m sure there are plenty of occasions when they genuinely fear for their lives, even if it’s proven in the end that the victim was unarmed. But in case after case after case that I’ve looked through, these deaths seemed so damned unnecessary. In one, a young guy was (allegedly) trashing an abandoned house with his friends, and the cops just shot and killed him through the window. He was unarmed. They didn’t even give him a chance to surrender. In another, a teenager with *no* history of violence and no criminal record was shot dead when he was pulled over in his car. He was unarmed. Cops said he attacked them, his friends say he never attacked anyone in his life. The consistency in the disbelief of family and friends of victims is striking, as is the consistency of the stories offered by cops when they kill unarmed men and women. Really, this is a killing spree.

          • June 1, 2015 at 9:59 pm

            “But in case after case after case that I’ve looked through, these deaths seemed so damned unnecessary.”

            That’s my point, as well, Chips.

            Michael Brown and Tamir Rice, to name folk known by most – that a single shot was fired at either of them is a total travesty. And, in both cases, had the cop actually had a reason to be threatened or concerned for the safety of others, they could have shot them ONCE.

            Instead, they not only shot them multiple times THEY REFUSED to provide CPR or allow anyone else to do so.

            They wanted them DEAD.

            I think it will be even more illuminating to analyze the data on WHITE folk shot/killed by police and examine the details of the situation. My hypothesis is that in those instances, the cops were likely confronting indisputable danger.

            • June 1, 2015 at 10:04 pm

              “THEY REFUSED to provide CPR or allow anyone else to do so.”

              That’s it, whatever the truth of what happens in these cases, it’s their treatment of the deceased says all we need to know, Michael Brown left lying under the burning sun for hours, Tamir Rice left unattended, a dying child, and his sister dragged away when she tried to be with him. I don’t know the definition of evil, but this must come close.

              • June 1, 2015 at 10:18 pm

                Evil, Chips, from my perspective is simple to define.

                Evil is uniquely human. Evil is when a person willfully damages or diminishes, in any way, the quality of life of another person – irrespective of scale or mechanism.

        • 19 vcprezofan2
          June 1, 2015 at 10:11 pm

          You know what, Bobfr? I do think the cops in the majority of these situations direct their fire. I think they shoot to kill, and *one* of the reasons they do so (I believe) is to destroy the other side of the story. Mike Brown comes to mind – that cop did not want him to explain what happened at the window of the car. No one IMO needs to put multiple bullets into someone to deter them. I’m sorry, but I see anyone pumping bullets into another person as an animal, and that recently acquitted officer who, fearing for his life, jumped up on the hood of the car etc. etc. is a psychopath and should be removed from the force acquittal or no. His bullets may not have been the fatal ones, but his very actions show he’s lacking in good decision-making skills, character, and, importantly, humanity. His psychological profile is probably quite dark.

          • June 1, 2015 at 10:16 pm

            “….. *one* of the reasons they do so (I believe) is to destroy the other side of the story……”

            + 1,000,000,000

            That and their belief they can get away with it.

          • June 1, 2015 at 10:25 pm

            I have no argument with you, VC, regarding the reality that being sure the victim is dead and, thereby, has no voice in the story is an element of the modus operandi we are likely witnessing in many of these cases.

            My point is that if you are properly trained you KNOW what the threat level is and you respond accordingly.

            In an instance, such as Michael Brown or Tamir Rice, the threat level was minimum, thus even a single shot, which properly directed could have readily disabled either, would have been more than adequate. BTW – In a sane world, a single shot would be considered excessive force.

    • 29 jacquelineoboomer
      June 1, 2015 at 8:37 pm

      That hater exposes himself more, every time he opens his mouth. Trouble is there are a lot of people who will latch onto his every word – and send him money. May they all rot.

  2. June 1, 2015 at 8:27 pm

    Congrats LP 🙂

    Very important research journalism, Chips. TY!!

    Everyone has noticed that, as always, our President Obama is out there cheering and supporting transgender individuals irrespective of their politics ….

  3. 33 Nerdy Wonka
    June 1, 2015 at 8:36 pm

    Vince Vaughn is a dangerous fool. Most especially in light of this Guardian piece Chips featured.

  4. 37 amk for obama
    June 1, 2015 at 8:45 pm

  5. June 1, 2015 at 8:49 pm

    • 39 desertflower
      June 1, 2015 at 8:52 pm

      I wore orange today…so that just means that I need to go out after dinner and go buy another orange shirt for tomorrow!!

  6. 40 amk for obama
    June 1, 2015 at 8:51 pm

    Data collected by the Washington Post newspaper suggests that the number of people shot by US police is twice as high as official figures claim.

    The paper said that during the first five months of this year, 385 people – more than two a day – were killed.

    The number of black people was disproportionately high among the victims, especially unarmed ones.

    Official statistics rely on self-reported figures from law enforcement agencies.

    They suggest about 400 people have been killed each year since 2008.


  7. 47 jacquelineoboomer
    June 1, 2015 at 8:57 pm

    I’m not in the prediction business, but this is one ex-wife who needs armed guards around her house, 24/7. Bill will not be taking “defeat” well, and will freak out again.

    • 48 amk for obama
      June 1, 2015 at 9:12 pm

      quelle surprise.

    • 49 hopefruit2
      June 1, 2015 at 9:15 pm

      As Jodi Kantor would say, Hmmmm….

    • 50 Nena20409
      June 1, 2015 at 9:23 pm

      The Media is always quick to look for an Athlete who has Domestic Violence issue to report on.
      Well, Billo O’Rielly, one of theirs and the News Media swept this under the rug?
      I remember a NY TV Anchor lost his job for beating his wife. Both CNN and MSNBC covered this story. But Billo?

  8. 51 Nena20409
    June 1, 2015 at 9:16 pm

    This is one heart-wrenching post.
    WashPost also had a similar post……they were concentrating on 2015…..Jan to May.
    Thanks Chips.
    Congrats LP for your Au ⭐

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  11. 54 amk for obama
    June 1, 2015 at 9:27 pm

    Solar Impulse, the zero-fuel aeroplane, has landed in Japan after being forced to abort a Pacific crossing due to deteriorating weather ahead of it.

    The aircraft, which set off from China on Saturday (GMT), had hoped to reach Hawaii by the end of the week.

    But a developing cold front over the ocean is blocking its path and pilot Andre Borschberg has decided to play safe by putting down in Nagoya.

    Flying the more than 8,000km from Nanjing in China to Kalaeloa in Hawaii was always considered the big test in the round-the-world flight.

    Although disappointed at having being forced to make a stopover, the team is nonetheless delighted with the performance of its aircraft.

    Just the journey from Nanjing has covered more than 2,850km – a new distance world record for a manned solar-powered plane. The time in the air, also, 44 hours, is a record in the same aviation class.


    I am eagerly awaiting their success.

  12. 55 amk for obama
    June 1, 2015 at 9:37 pm

    The machines may soon be taking over the reception desk.

    In July, the Henn-na Hotel will open in the city of Sasebo, Japan, and its owners hope this will be a new frontier for the hospitality industry.

    It will be staffed by 10 life-like robots, with only two flesh-and-blood staff members on the premises.

    The robots will greet guests, carry bags, and even clean rooms once a guest leaves. Complete with an eerily realistic female face, they are designed to speak several languages and respond to guest enquiries in the 72-room hotel.


    bt, you gotcherself a roman japanese holiday, my compliments.

  13. June 1, 2015 at 9:41 pm

    Pot…meet kettle! 14 news orgs have formed their own cabal….unbelievable!! http://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/style/on-the-trail-of-hillary-clinton-not-everyone-is-allowed-to-jump-into-the-press-pool/2015/05/29/f2f99ae6-0631-11e5-a428-c984eb077d4e_story.html

    The level of WHPC/DC media hypocrisy is on another level:

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  14. June 1, 2015 at 10:12 pm

    One of my favorites…

    ..hard to imagine what he went through

    • 59 0388jojothecat
      June 1, 2015 at 10:56 pm

      That’s hard to watch. My heart goes out to Tracy, he still has not gotten over that tragic accident and may never get over it. He lost a dear friend who he remembers talking to only before the accident and no memory of the accident at all. I pray he recoveries 100%.

  15. 60 amk for obama
    June 1, 2015 at 10:24 pm

    lindsey enters the race on his fp creds? lawd love a duck.

  16. 61 amk for obama
    June 1, 2015 at 10:32 pm

    the kkklown kar sorely needs the tundra twit’s women’s touch.

  17. June 1, 2015 at 10:58 pm

  18. June 1, 2015 at 11:49 pm

    GOOD GOD! I will never complain about rickshaws ever again…EVER

    Anupam Verma has a certificate that shows he has flown an aircraft for 360 hours. He says he got it after sitting in the co-pilot’s seat for just 35 minutes. He’s one of dozens of pilots in the country who obtained certificates showing inflated flying hours and ground training, according to court documents and interviews with pilots, regulators and industry analysts. The son of a poor farmer, Verma was given a 2.8 million-rupee ($44,000) subsidy by the Indian government to learn to fly a commercial jet. “What if I was flying and had an emergency? I wouldn’t even know how or where to land,” Verma, 25, said in an interview. “We’d kill not only the passengers, but we might crash in a village and kill even more people.”

    The spotlight on aviation safety has swung from aircraft reliability to pilot reliability in the past few years after a series of disasters that were thought to be either deliberate acts of destruction, or the result of inadequate training. The latest, in March, killed 150 people when Germanwings co-pilot Andreas Lubitz appears to have locked his captain out of the cockpit and flown his jet into a mountain. Last year, a Malaysia Airlines jet with 239 on board mysteriously changed course en-route to Beijing from Kuala Lumpur and headed off for thousands of kilometers into the Indian Ocean. The plane still hasn’t been found and the cause of the disaster remains unknown. Concern about the quality of India’s pilots has been building over the past decade as a proliferation of budget airlines created demand for hundreds of new pilots. In 2011, the government reviewed the licenses of all 4,000-plus airline pilots in the country, as police investigated at least 18 people suspected of using forged documents to win promotions or certification. The findings of the review were not made public.

    AMK, I hope you only travel via international airlines. I will never let my parents book another flight by an Indian carrier.

  19. 65 taiping1
    June 2, 2015 at 12:13 am

    A great Grunwald story in the exorbitant tariffs on U.S. Good imposed by countries in theTPP deal. What all the hair-on-fire demagogues miss is that workers will benefit from increased exports. Exporting companies pay an average of 15+% more.

  20. 66 99ts
    June 2, 2015 at 12:39 am

    We really did used to have separation of church and state – but now – we have the PM discussing “come to Jesus” moments – he needs to go back to England – or the church – or wherever he came from.

  21. 67 jacquelineoboomer
    June 2, 2015 at 12:51 am

    Also, too, that “contract” bit kinda looks like the thug bikers are giving up their rights in the name of Freedumb.

  22. June 2, 2015 at 1:44 am

    evening TOD night owls.

    I’m up late, I have a good friend who is a Lesbian and who is an LGBT activist. We’ve been discussing the idea about Transgender identity and adhering to the same “standards of beauty” that cis-woman do.

    In other words, getting away from the more celeb obsessed aspect of Caitlyn Jenner, what she has been saying is, so what if like a number of Transgender woman and men Caitlyn wasn’t “beautiful” or didn’t adhere to the “standards of beauty” that so many cis female try to adhere to….would the reactions be the same?

    I suspect not. she was encouraged that Caitlyn found her truth, but she also hoped it would lead to real discussion past just saying “oh she’s beautiful”. My friends supposition was ok, supposed Caitlyn had chosen to do a more “true to life” shoot than the soft lighting and airbrush aspect of so much of Annie Leibowitz fashion photography.

    I mean, not all transgender people have the resources of someone like a Caitlyn Jenner or the “glam squad” that is afforded a rich celeb.

    @IjeomaOluo: I’m very happy for Caitlyn Jenner & wish her the best. I also wish for visibility & respect for trans people who do not have the resources..

    @IjeomaOluo: I really wish that people in marginalized groups didn’t have to be “beautiful” for people to realize that they ARE beautiful.

    • 70 jacquelineoboomer
      June 2, 2015 at 2:00 am

      Several good lessons for all of us, in what you wrote. Thanks for sharing that!

  23. 71 jacquelineoboomer
    June 2, 2015 at 2:18 am


  24. 72 Dudette
    June 2, 2015 at 7:38 am

    Good Morning People of TOD! 😃

    Great picture here! [sigh!]

  25. 75 Dudette
    June 2, 2015 at 7:39 am

  26. 76 jackiegrumbacher
    June 2, 2015 at 7:43 am

    Thank you, dudette, for always finding the weird and wonderful and sharing it with us.

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