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Pat Bagley, Salt Lake Tribune, @patbagley


86 Responses to “Keep chatting!”


  1. March 3, 2015 at 12:33 pm

    Good Afternoon, TODers!!!

  2. March 3, 2015 at 12:35 pm

    “Fugitive ex-U.S. spy Snowden in talks on returning home: lawyer”

    http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/03/03/us-russia-usa-snowden-idUSKBN0LZ1U020150303

    ——–

    A Russian lawyer for Edward Snowden said on Tuesday the fugitive former U.S. spy agency contractor who leaked details of the government’s mass surveillance programs was working with American and German lawyers to return home.

    “I won’t keep it secret that he… wants to return back home. And we are doing everything possible now to solve this issue…”

    The United States wants Snowden to stand trial for leaking extensive secrets of electronic surveillance programs by the National Security Agency (NSA). Russia has repeatedly refused to extradite him.

    Snowden has said in the past he would like to return home if he was assured he would be given a fair trial.

  3. 18 No Child Left Behind
    March 3, 2015 at 12:35 pm

  4. 19 kid kanga
    March 3, 2015 at 12:35 pm

    I hope Snowden freezes to death in siberia. It will be a total circus with the usual losers on the new, and if there is a trial they will make it all about Obama. Please Russia, keep your own dang spy please, we don’t want him!

  5. 21 amk for obama
    March 3, 2015 at 12:36 pm

    all blowhards enabled by murka.

  6. 22 amk for obama
    March 3, 2015 at 12:37 pm

    via bbc, Scott Lehigh, columnist for the Boston Globe tweets:

    Bibi is essentially saying: I am a better judge of the US’s security and self-interest than you are. Hard argument to credit. #Bibispeech

  7. 23 amk for obama
    March 3, 2015 at 12:38 pm

    “The speech was able to break one by one the arguments of those who are pro-agreement with Iran.” Israeli Economy Minister Naftali Bennett tells Israeli army radio. “I don’t understand what Herzog, Tzipi and Lapid are thinking to themselves when they throw stones at the prime minister who is fighting for them. It’s a disgrace, this thing is neither right or left.”

    The complete CD at display.

  8. March 3, 2015 at 12:46 pm

    • 25 Will
      March 3, 2015 at 12:53 pm

      I wrote this in the last thread:

      Nancy & the rest of those fuckers in congress are so fucking toast.

      If the Iran deal fails, how long before those idiots whom attended this farce start pointing the finger at Obama?? Because ya know, it’s his fault they chose to stand with a foreign leader over their own elected President right??…..

      I’M SICK OF THE BLATANT DISRESPECT TOWARDS THIS MAN!!!!

      • March 3, 2015 at 1:29 pm

        thank god you posted that one twice (rolls eyes)

      • 27 sabreen60
        March 3, 2015 at 4:10 pm

        I so agree with you. I’m so disgusted with the Dems who attended that I can’t see straight. They sat on their hands as Yahoo denigrated President Obama, the Office of the President and the nation. I’m trying to figure out where do I go. When President Obama leaves office, I’m really not sure what I’ll do. The Democrats (many of them) are so weak kneed and cowardly I can’t stand it. They have shown over and over when it comes to actually standing with the President, they are no where to be found.

        • 28 taiping1
          March 3, 2015 at 11:46 pm

          Despite my distaste for Democrats I will do everything possible to elect a Democratic Congress and President so that gains under President Obama can be consolidated. You let GOP in and SS, health care, courts, economic gains will all be trashed.

  9. 29 JER
    March 3, 2015 at 12:51 pm

  10. 30 No Child Left Behind
    March 3, 2015 at 12:55 pm

  11. 31 No Child Left Behind
    March 3, 2015 at 12:57 pm

    • 32 Will
      March 3, 2015 at 1:00 pm

      Same with the Dems in Congress.

      • March 3, 2015 at 1:26 pm

        while not here every day, i do stop by this site quite a bit, and i don’t remember seeing you here before. seems every comment i’ve seen from you today is a very strong “the dems suck!!1!” or “f- pelosi!11!!” and so on. am i missing something here? why on earth would a supposed obamabot spend so much time and energy loudly attacking some of president obama’s most loyal supporters? republicans/libertarians and their stenographers in “the news” are the problem – not democrats. just a suggestion…

        • 34 nospin
          March 3, 2015 at 1:46 pm

          ” why on earth would a supposed obamabot spend so much time and energy loudly attacking some of president obama’s most loyal supporters?”

          4morefor44 – my thoughts exactly.

          we.see.him

        • 35 Will
          March 3, 2015 at 2:07 pm

          LOL. I’m not against Obama or his suppoters. I’m against the Party whom refuses to stand with him on virtually anything. Call me crazy, but to me both sides should be called for out pushing anti-Obama sentiment in this country. That’s all.

          • 36 Will
            March 3, 2015 at 2:09 pm

            “called out for”

          • March 3, 2015 at 2:33 pm

            as has always been the case, there are a few “bad apples” here and there, but overall the democratic party overwhelming supports president obama and what he’s been getting accomplished. president obama is a loud and proud democrat, correct?

            on the other hand, the republican party is the most obstructionist of all time, and an easy case could be made they now exist to lead a fascist takeover of america, and “the news” lies for them every step of the way so that voters keep being fooled. again, every comment i see from you is about how bad “the democrats” are and ignores these other facts. if you are indeed as you claim to be, and want to support our president, going after “the democrats” of which he is one, is a serious misuse of your time and energy. good luck.

            • 38 sabreen60
              March 3, 2015 at 4:15 pm

              I gotta agree with Will on this one. The Democrats should NOT have attended Netanyahu’s speech, IMO. I am thoroughly disgusted with those who did attend. Nor have I forgotten how many of them didn’t want President Obama to campaign for them in 2014. I expect crap from the RW. I do expect Democrats to support the President when he is being humiliated.

  12. 40 No Child Left Behind
    March 3, 2015 at 1:00 pm

    There are many organizations divesting from Israel these past few months because of what they perceive as violence against Palestinians – making their lives intolerable.

  13. 41 Linda
    March 3, 2015 at 1:00 pm

    Boehner Stunt Backfires As NBC, CBS and ABC Don’t Televise Netanyahu Speech To Congress

    • 42 idon
      March 3, 2015 at 1:04 pm

      Now that’s what I’m talking about. Good for them.

    • March 3, 2015 at 1:06 pm

      I did a quick flip through the stations to see who was airing the speech and was glad to see that at least *these* networks weren’t…especially since they don’t tend to extend that courtesy to our President.

    • 44 Will
      March 3, 2015 at 1:25 pm

      The Dems in congress where dumb enough to attend this crap even after it was revealed that PBO never requested it & Boehner violated the Logan Act by going over the heads of the WH. I wouldn’t exactly call that a backfire.

      This did indeed kill off what’s left of the Democratic Party tho.

        • 46 Will
          March 3, 2015 at 2:13 pm

          I’m not trolling, just giving my opinion.

          hmmmm….to you too

        • 47 japa21
          March 3, 2015 at 2:13 pm

          My thoughts exactly. What will actually kill the Democratic Party (thereby totally enabling the GOP agenda to succeed) is people saying they will not support the party. Sometimes the purists on the left are just as far out as the purists on the right. The only difference is that the purists on the right will still vote GOP and those on the elft won’t vote or vote thrid party.

          • 52 sabreen60
            March 3, 2015 at 4:20 pm

            I no purist. I’m just pissed. My Senators and Reps attended this BS. They sat there and listened to Yahoo disrespect President Obama. So no, I’m not exactly in love with the Democrats who attended right now. And the other thing that pisses me off is that I know full well there is NO alternative to what we have. And you can bet your bottom dollar they know it, too.

  14. 53 Linda
    March 3, 2015 at 1:03 pm

    I wish Josh had held his daily briefing at 11:00 AM today

  15. 55 Alycee (@jazziz2)
    March 3, 2015 at 1:03 pm

    Following is link to newspaper articles and photos that I posted at FB. My grandmother, Alice Virginia Robinson Nelson, was the first Black woman on the east coast, and the second in the US, to launch a ship when she christened the SS Vincennes at the Sun Ship Dry Dock and Shipyard in Chester, Pennsylvania, on December 7, 1942.

    The first Black woman in the US, was singer Marian Anderson, who christened the SS Booker T. Washington, the first Liberty ship named for an African American, at the California Shipbuilding Corporation shipyard in Wilmington, California, on September 29, 1942.

    https://www.facebook.com/alycee.ruley/media_set?set=a.10206300046083810.1073741850.1346081293&type=3

    • 56 jackiegrumbacher
      March 3, 2015 at 1:45 pm

      Wow, Alycee, that’s very impressive. How did your grandmother get to have this honor?

  16. March 3, 2015 at 1:13 pm

    • 58 Nena20409
      March 3, 2015 at 1:23 pm

      Why do they need the Iron Dome from US and the $3B plus annually?
      Why do they Need USA to keep covering for them at the UN?
      They have Nukes…….yet…….they depend on American Jews to help to fund their continued expansions in the Occupied Territory?
      Netanyahu is a sack of Evil.

      • 59 jackiegrumbacher
        March 3, 2015 at 1:48 pm

        Nena, these are excellent questions that I, too, would like to have the answer to. What has Israel done to merit so much special attention and so many resources from the US? And what on earth have we gotten in return except insults and contempt.

    • 60 nospin
      March 3, 2015 at 1:49 pm

      because according to the Book of BiBi – US is Israel therefore, as the Prime Minister of Israel, Congress should do what he tells them to do.

  17. March 3, 2015 at 1:24 pm

    Did you all see this from Robert Reich’s facebook page? https://www.facebook.com/RBReich/posts/960065787339351

    =================
    The following is from 29-year-old Stav Shaffir, the youngest minister in Israel’s parliament (Knesset), in response to my recent post about Netanyahu’s upcoming address to Congress.
    ***
    Dear Robert Reich,
    Like many Israelis, I read your post that was shared by thousands. Because you decided to address Israelis directly, you’ll forgive me if I take the same liberty and speak directly to US Jewry:
    Brothers and sisters, you are not alone. Many of us in Israel feel the same extreme discomfort, even embarrassment, that you feel at Netanyahu’s interference in US internal politics. We understand that he is primarily interested in electioneering and is cynically exploiting you as a part of his election strategy, not to impact an agreement between Iran and world powers.
    To our utter mortification, Netanyahu is willing to take this grave misstep despite its costs. In refusing to back down, he has already done serious damage to the strategic alliance between the US and Israel and put you -our brothers, sisters, allies and partners – in an impossible position in which you are asked to choose between your love for Israel and loyalty to the US. Make no mistake: we, like you, understand that support for Israel cannot become a partisan issue, limited to Republicans or Democrats. Support for Israel has long been bipartisan, and that cannot and should not change now. From what we know about the agreement being formulated, we have serious reasons for concern. But Netanyahu is doing the exact opposite of what someone who is interested in effecting the reality in the Middle East should be doing.
    Robert, your work over the years on inequality has been an inspiration for many of us in the Israeli social protest movement. I know that you probably tend to hear about Israel in tragic contexts, but you should know that only a couple of years ago hundreds of thousands of us, citizens of Israel, took to the streets to begin a challenging common journey whose aim was a profound repair of our society. But just as our government, with Netanyahu at its helm, chose a destructive path when it came to our international relations, it took a destructive path on our economic front as well: housing prices continue to skyrocket, median income is stuck, and our most basic social services are falling apart.
    Though Netanyahu may be deaf to the needs and hopes of most of our citizenry, we have faith that we can build a different Israel. We have not the privilege to despair. We are neither impressed nor intimidated by Netanyahu’s scare tactics or Sheldon Adelson’s billions. We are encouraged and moved to know that we have partners across the ocean that share our vision for a more egalitarian society – one that is more just and more united. And if the circumstances we find ourselves in today succeed in generating a stronger bond between us and generate an emerging alliance, then at least we know that something good has come out of Netanyahu’s cynical move.
    MK Stav Shaffir

    • 62 jackiegrumbacher
      March 3, 2015 at 1:54 pm

      This is a very moving letter and it should give Americans hope that at some future time, with different leadership, Israeli-US relations can be improved. What I don’t understand is why Netanyahu keeps being re-elected. This morning Donna said that the outlook in Israel is that Netanyahu will win another election. If he’s causing so many international and economic problems, why oh why, do Israeli voters continue to back him?

      • 63 99ts
        March 3, 2015 at 3:03 pm

        I gather it is because of the makeup of the political parties in Israel. Bibi is NOT elected directly by the people, he is the leader of the party that gains the most members in the parliament. The parliamentary members of Bibi’s party vote for a leader & they have selected Bibi. A majority of voters may not want Bibi as PM but they do want his party to be in power.

        If the US had a Westminster parliamentary system of government – John Boehner would be PM and the leader of the government!

  18. 64 Nena20409
    March 3, 2015 at 1:24 pm

    Congrats on your Au ⭐ Swbluega 😉
    Congrats to all the Gold ⭐ Medalists several posts back.
    My 1st time on the Web Today. I have not read much.

    • 65 No Child Left Behind
      March 3, 2015 at 1:28 pm

      He has agreed to plead to “Love outside his marriage spiced with CIA secrets”.

  19. 66 No Child Left Behind
    March 3, 2015 at 1:31 pm

    Who says he “has to return”? He can continue with his espionage in Russia. Why come back to the country he sold out?

    • 67 nospin
      March 3, 2015 at 1:52 pm

      Who says he “has to return”?

      Russia can keep him.

      • 68 jackiegrumbacher
        March 3, 2015 at 1:59 pm

        Nospin, I agree with you on this one. He made his little traitorous bed; let him lie on it. Maybe he can start spying on Russia and see how that affects his lifespan. Notice how he can’t stop insulting the US even as he wants to come back here. He’s implying that he wouldn’t get a “fair trial,” which means he distrusts the country he wants to return to. I hope US officials tell him where he get off in no uncertain terms.

      • 69 Sandy1110
        March 3, 2015 at 2:51 pm

        I don’t think little Eddie likes it so much over there now that he sees that an ACTUAL power-abuser has people killed for real…unlike the black President he was so eager to disrespect and for whom he was happy to cause trouble with that little jackass Greenwald.

        Let him sweat it out in Russia.

  20. 70 Nena20409
    March 3, 2015 at 1:32 pm

    • 71 99ts
      March 3, 2015 at 3:05 pm

      It was no secret how Christie would govern and behave – why on earth do left leaning states vote for such people?

  21. March 3, 2015 at 1:33 pm

  22. 74 Nena20409
    March 3, 2015 at 1:34 pm

  23. 75 JER
    March 3, 2015 at 1:48 pm

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    Bo with Brian Mosteller.

    A post shared by Pete Souza (archived) (@petesouza44) on

  24. 76 JER
    March 3, 2015 at 1:51 pm

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  27. 79 nospin
    March 3, 2015 at 1:57 pm

    Pelosi Statement on Prime Minister Netanyahu’s Address to Congress

    The state of Israel stands as the greatest political achievement of the 20th century, and the United States will always have an unshakable commitment to Israel’s security.

    “That is why, as one who values the U.S. – Israel relationship, and loves Israel, I was near tears throughout the Prime Minister’s speech – saddened by the insult to the intelligence of the United States as part of the P5 +1 nations, and saddened by the condescension toward our knowledge of the threat posed by Iran and our broader commitment to preventing nuclear proliferation.

    http://www.democraticleader.gov/newsroom/pelosi-statement-prime-minister-netanyahus-address-congress/

    Shorter Pelosi to Bibi: F*ck you!

    • 80 jackiegrumbacher
      March 3, 2015 at 2:02 pm

      I do see now why Nancy Pelosi sat through the speech. It’s better to speak from knowledge than ignorance. Now she is above reproach in her criticism–she came, she saw, she was unimpressed.

  28. 82 Allison
    March 3, 2015 at 1:58 pm


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