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Oct
14

Young Adults Love ObamaCare. GOP Ends Up With Egg On Face

So Sue Me

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Jeffrey Young: Conservatives Proven Utterly Wrong On Key Aspect Of Obamacare

Remember when Obamacare was a terrible deal for young adults, and how “young invincibles” didn’t even want health insurance? Conservative groups — acting, no doubt, out of deep concern for the well-being of the nation’s 20-somethings — even staged events where young people burned their “Obamacare cards” (there is no such thing). Instead, this is what happened:

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Not so scary, after all. That’s right: The share of the population between 19 and 25 years old without health insurance has fallen since the Affordable Care Act passed in 2010. That year, the uninsured rate for that group was more than 30 percent. By the end of this March, it had fallen to 21 percent, according to Centers for Disease Control and Prevention survey data presented in a report the White House Council of Economic Advisors released Wednesday. In fact, the uninsured rate fell more for young adults than any other age group from the end of 2013 to the close of the first quarter of this year, the CDC survey found. And that doesn’t even account for a surge in Obamacare enrollments at the end of March and early April, especially among younger people, for insurance coverage that didn’t kick in until April or May. Turns out, people under 30 also think having health insurance is a good idea.

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126 Responses to “Young Adults Love ObamaCare. GOP Ends Up With Egg On Face”


  1. October 12, 2014 at 11:45 am

    Thanks a trabillion gazillion Nerdy!

  2. 10 No Child Left Behind
    October 12, 2014 at 11:51 am

    Thank you Nerdy for this info. I need to share it with some long distance wackos that I know.

  3. October 12, 2014 at 11:52 am

    Some of Obamas base are ungrateful.

  4. 15 amk for obama
    October 12, 2014 at 11:52 am

    Will the young ones get a clue at least now? Or aqua buddha is still their hero?

  5. 17 amk for obama
    October 12, 2014 at 11:56 am

    Go Fedex. Wins shanghai open for first time.

  6. 18 hopefruit2
    October 12, 2014 at 11:57 am

  7. 19 yardarm756
    October 12, 2014 at 11:58 am

    On this date………

    Events

    2000 USS Cole Bombing Suicide bombers from Osama bin Laden’s al-Qaeda explode a small craft next to the US Navy destroyer in Yemen killing 17 sailors.

    1992 Is anyone out there? NASA, using two giant radio-telescopes in California and Puerto Rico, begins scanning the skies for signs of alien life.

    1992 First pig-to-human liver transplant Cedars-Sinai Medical Center performs the operation on a 26-year-old woman. She died shortly thereafter.

    1984 Blank Gun Death Actor Jon-Erik Hexum critically injures himself playing Russian Roulette with a blank gun on the set of TV series Cover Up. He wasn’t aware that the wadding fired from blanks is deadly at point blank range. He died six days later.

    1973 First U.S. Vice President Appointed Under the 25th Amendment Gerald Ford is appointed the position of U.S. Vice Pres. after the resignation of V.P. Spiro Agnew.

    1969 Paul McCartney dead? A Detroit disc jockey and his radio audience determine from “clues” found in Beatles’ songs and album covers that Paul had died in an car accident in 1966. They were wrong of course.

    1960 Khrushchev Shoe Incident At a United Nations conference, Premier of the Soviet Union Nikita Khrushchev takes off his shoe and pounds a conference table. (Note: Although commonly believed and reported, there is much debate as to whether he actually pounded the table with his shoe or just waved it in the air)

    1949 First woman U.S. ambassador Eugenie Moore Anderson is nominated by Pres. Truman as ambassador to Denmark. She was sworn in on the 28th.

    1933 John Dillinger is freed from prison The Pierpont Bunch rescues him, killing a sheriff in the process. They then formed the famous Dillinger Gang.

    1901 First non-religious record Three Blind Mice is recorded.

    1861 First ironclad steamer of the U.S. Navy The St. Louis is launched.

    1788 John Fitch’s steamboat makes the trip from Philadelphia to Burlington in 3 hours, 10 minutes.

    1492 Columbus reaches one of the Bahama Islands, naming it San Salvador.

    Births

    1970 Kirk Cameron American actor. TV: Growing Pains (Mike Seaver).

    1950 Susan Anton American actress, Miss California. (1969). Film: Goldengirl (1979). TV: Baywatch.

    1935 Luciano Pavarotti d. 2007 Italian tenor, one of “The Three Tenors.” He was caught lip-syncing during a live BBC radio performance (1992).

    1932 Jake Garn American politician, U.S. Senator (R-Utah). He was the first U.S. public official launched into space (1985, aboard the space shuttle Discovery).

    1932 Dick Gregory American comedian, diet-mix salesman.

    1860 Elmer Ambrose Sperry d. 1930 American engineer, inventor of the gyro-compass (1910) and founder of Sperry Electric Co. (1888).

    1798 Pedro I d. 1834 first Emperor of Brazil (1822-31).

    1537 Edward VI d. 1553 King of England (1547-53). He was the son of Henry VIII and Jane Seymour.

    Deaths

    1997 John Denver b. 1943 (Henry John Deutschendorf, Jr.), American Grammy-winning singer. Music: Rocky Mountain High (1972), Thank God I’m A Country Boy (1975, #1), and wrote Leaving On A Jet Plane (1969). He died when the small aircraft he was piloting crashed off the coast of California.

    1993 Leon Ames b. 1903 (Leon Waycoff), American actor. TV: Mr. Ed. (as neighbor Gordon Kirkwood). He was one of the 19 founders of the Screen Actors Guild (1933).

    1989 Jay Ward b. 1920 American animation producer, creator of Bullwinkle J. Moose.

    1969 Sonja Henie b. 1912 Norwegian figure skater, actress. A 10-time world champion (1927-36), she won the Norwegian championship at age 11, the world title at age 13, and Olympic gold medals in 1928, 1932, and 1936.

    1954 George Schwartz “Wheaties” Welch b. 1918 American WWII flying ace. It is alleged that he broke the sound barrier two weeks before Chuck Yeager. However, he did so during a dive. Yeager’s feat was during level flight.

    1940 Tom Mix b. 1880 American silent film western actor. His action-packed films set the pattern for future westerns.

    1870 Robert Edward Lee b. 1807 American soldier. He turned down the command of the U.S. Army to become commander of the Virginian forces during the Civil War.

    1576 Maximilian II b. 1527 Emperor of the Holy Roman Empire (1564-76).

    642 John IV b. ???? religious leader, 72nd Pope (640-642).

    638 Honorius I b. ???? religious leader, 70th Pope (625-638).

  8. 21 hopefruit2
    October 12, 2014 at 12:00 pm

  9. October 12, 2014 at 12:00 pm

  10. October 12, 2014 at 12:02 pm

    I have a LOT of 25 – 35 year-old clients that I’ve signed up through the exchange, and some who are making too much to get a tax credit-OFF the exchange.

    These people range from young professionals to people just starting families, who know that having coverage is 100% better than taking a risk. They know that NOT having insurance would be financial suicide at this stage of their lives, since most have student loans to pay off, and adding a bankruptcy because what little savings they had wasn’t enough to pay for prenatal care and delivery of their first child.

    The GOP have proven they’re all a bunch of OLD WHITE MEN, (and those that aren’t, think exactly like them), since anything that doesn’t concern the health of old white men, (pregnancy, sports injuries, preventative care, etc.) they could care less about, but young adults are very aware of their own health and thus economic vulnerabilities.

  11. October 12, 2014 at 12:08 pm

  12. October 12, 2014 at 12:19 pm

    Nerdy you are so on top of this issue. I wish for universal health care for all. It does save lives.

  13. 33 hopefruit2
    October 12, 2014 at 12:19 pm

    • October 12, 2014 at 12:25 pm

      Whats going on in the media? Its worse than ever… This blame obama for everything . It’s almost like a game to the Media. 😦

      • 35 Vicki
        October 12, 2014 at 12:33 pm

        It IS more intense than ever!
        Election is coming up so soon.
        GOP/MSM frantic with teeth and claws bared.

        What we noticed all along. And what maybe we thought was our own paranoia, has now been revealed as a 24 hour seven day a week all out, no-holds-barred assault on Our President.

        I am finding it hard to bear and so stressful that I very rarely turn on my TV except for entertainment escapist shows. Tonight, The Walking Dead returns!

    • October 12, 2014 at 12:35 pm

      I notice that a lot of times, headlines indicate that the article will be about something that is negative for PBO. But when you read the article, it is nothing close to what the headline states. Probably because they know people will focus on the headline and not bother to read the article.

    • 37 4morefor44
      October 12, 2014 at 12:41 pm

      thanks, hf2. i saw the usual drama junkies on twitter going after senator warren this morn, yet again, and figured it was some false reading of what she said, as has happened several times now. i found that article and read the article and it’s clear that’s what is happening, as allan said.

      senator warren and martin o’malley have been the most vocal and consistent supporters of president obama for years now, so it’s been weird to see obama-backers turn on her so quickly when their chain gets purposely yanked with false characterizations of her words. has even happened in the comments here. starts to feel like 2007 again when anyone who could be seen as a threat to the coronation of The Inevitable One would get pounced on immediately with false narratives, namely then-senator barack hussein obama. hopefully people won’t fall for it again…

    • October 12, 2014 at 12:42 pm

  14. October 12, 2014 at 12:27 pm

  15. October 12, 2014 at 12:28 pm

    • 41 jacquelineoboomer
      October 12, 2014 at 1:37 pm

      Totally agree with that statement, for sure! It’s been SICKENING, since the day after the ’08 election.

  16. 42 arapaho415
    October 12, 2014 at 12:32 pm

    Repeating myself here, but “young invincibles” is a MYTH created by our stellar (snark) elite, white, MALE, DC echo-chamber who gives the GOP their marching orders.

    How many young women of child bearing age are disinterested in medical care?

    I would wager only those who don’t know where STD, AIDs and babies come from.

  17. 44 arapaho415
    October 12, 2014 at 12:34 pm

    For 57F and No Child Left Behind (on previous thread, re: McCain a**holery):

  18. 47 donna dem 4 obama
    October 12, 2014 at 1:01 pm

    Good Sunday Afternoon everyone. Just popping in before the family gets here but wanted to tell HF2 and others that they did a great job taking down Roland Martin yesterday.

    It gave me a big ole 🙂 today!

  19. 55 PoliticalJunkessa
    October 12, 2014 at 1:14 pm

    Good Morning Chips and TOD!

    I have been relatively newsmedia- and pundit- free for approximately the last two years and it has been bliss. From reading comments here over the past week, it looks like I haven’t missed a thing and that the scoundrels are still as stupid and scoundrelly as ever. I had actually forgot all about some of these characters lol.

    Anyway, loving the good news on Obamacare and those dashing 2008 pics. Have a great Sunday, everyone!

    • 56 vcprezofan2
      October 12, 2014 at 3:19 pm

      Hi PJ, sharing happy Sunday wishes with you too! Your assessment is spot on! Yes, the scoundrels have been their usual selves, sometimes apparently on speed. The only thing you really missed over the past two years was our company, and, in truth, sometimes even some of us were a bit squirrel-ly. 😉 😀

      • 57 PoliticalJunkessa
        October 12, 2014 at 4:38 pm

        Hellooooo my dear ((((VC))))!

        The more things change, the more they stay the same, I suppose. 😀 I just couldn’t stay in that mind space while I was attending to some mental, emotional, and spiritual needs. Knowhatimsayin?

        Now TOD I have greatly missed, especially you, Chief Squirrel. Thanks for all the times you checked up on me, dearie! ♥ ♥ ♥

        • 58 vcprezofan2
          October 12, 2014 at 10:39 pm

          😳 Don’t mention it, PJ. It *is* great to have you dropping in more often, and to know that’s a sign you weathered/are weathering your personal storm.

          Just back from Thanksgiving dinner, so am off to see what’s at the top of the ‘menu’ board in the village this evening.

  20. October 12, 2014 at 1:23 pm

  21. 60 jacquelineoboomer
    October 12, 2014 at 1:25 pm

    NW – I couldn’t get through your headline without LMAO! Keep up the good work.

    Happy Sunday, TODville!

  22. 63 hopefruit2
    October 12, 2014 at 1:41 pm

  23. 66 hopefruit2
    October 12, 2014 at 1:45 pm

  24. October 12, 2014 at 1:46 pm

    • 68 arapaho415
      October 12, 2014 at 2:33 pm

      This is an amazing chart, Dr. Bob, thanks for posting!

      From a USA perspective, what leaps out to me is… infrastructure.

      In the 30 years between 1870-1900, the US suddenly appeared as a world economic leader, and the difference between the US in, let’s say, 1868 and 1900 was the transcontinental railroad (the Pony Express of historical lore ceased to exist in 1866).

      So in today’s terms, progressives (and those who support US infrastructure) are the transcontinental railroad, while reactive conservative RWNJs are the Pony Express.

      • October 12, 2014 at 2:49 pm

        That’s an apt comparison, Arapaho.

        What is not reflected (yet) in that graphic visualization is that for ~ 1950 of those years the impact of economy on ecology was negligible.

        What will define whether humanity persists is the extent to which Nations adopt ecological economics as their model. Very little time remains before failing to do so will eliminate the option as a willful decision and homo sapiens experiences an evolutionary crisis.

  25. 70 arapaho415
    October 12, 2014 at 1:46 pm

  26. October 12, 2014 at 1:47 pm

    You see this?

    President Obama orders additional federal steps to help hospitals spread the halt of Ebola – @dallasnews

  27. 72 globalcitizenlinda
    October 12, 2014 at 1:49 pm

  28. October 12, 2014 at 1:50 pm

  29. October 12, 2014 at 1:50 pm

    • 75 arapaho415
      October 12, 2014 at 2:43 pm

      Dr. Bob,

      Did you see this?

      I posted on an early morning thread this week, but didn’t hear from 99ts as to whether this is getting much traction in Australia.

      From the article:
      “The sale left Mr Leung with a secretive financial windfall – including an additional guarantee that UGL would pay to him an outstanding £1.5 million bonus owed by the insolvent firm – but left DTZ’s other shareholders and unsecured creditors with nothing, wiping out investments and debts worth tens of millions of dollars.

      Mr Leung’s side deal equated to more than 5 per cent of the purchase price.”

      Annoyingly, TheAge article now has an auto-start video embedded in it. 😦

  30. October 12, 2014 at 1:54 pm

    Bunches of irony in this pic ….

  31. 78 JER
    October 12, 2014 at 1:54 pm

    President Obama is at Fort Belvoir.

  32. 80 globalcitizenlinda
    October 12, 2014 at 1:55 pm

    Paul Krugman will soon be “blacklisted” by the “inevitable-candidate’s” supporters for factual statements like this:

  33. October 12, 2014 at 1:59 pm

  34. 86 hopefruit2
    October 12, 2014 at 2:18 pm

  35. 87 globalcitizenlinda
    October 12, 2014 at 2:21 pm

    I know NOTHING about military planning and operations during war;

    but it seems to me that ISIL’s focus on taking Kobani is a tactical error from the point of view of ISIL.

    if, as reports on the ground indicate, this ISIL is constantly re-supplying and reinforcing its positions in Kobani, then it is in fact making it easier for its fighters to be identified and concentrated in a narrower space.

    wouldn’t this make them easier to target by the coalition than they would if they were more spread out in more locations across the region?

    as more and more ISIL fighters come to join in the fight for Kobani, doesn’t this mean that they are fewer ISIL fighters left in Syria?

    it seems to me that in their egotistical focus on Kobani, they are acting more like bees drawn to poisonous honey just before an exterminator comes in to spray the hive

    • October 12, 2014 at 2:41 pm

      Daesh’s conceit is “statehood,” “caliphate.” As opposed to enclaves in regions not adequately controlled (for whatever reason) by actual States (e.g., AQ in Pakistan, in Yemen, Somalia, Mali, etc).

      Daesh aspires to being a state, and to do so it must control real estate.

      Kobani is crucial given it’s proximity to Turkey, which has been obviously way more supportive of Daesh than they’ve wanted the world to realize (Erdogan has lost on that score).

      Unfortunate for Daesh, the Kurds have no intention of cooperating with their statehood aspirations. And, as you’ve noted, the more Daesh concentrates in Kobani, the more it consolidates itself as a target.

      Two tactical tasks need to be implemented, quickly: 1. Kurds fighting Daesh need supplies; and, 2. skilled forward observers need to be fully operational in Kobani as to properly ‘paint’ targets for air strikes.

      An overarching strategic task that must be accomplished – like a year or more ago – is forcing Erdogan to stop enabling Daesh.

      • 89 globalcitizenlinda
        October 12, 2014 at 2:59 pm

        issues are so complicated with so many external interests;

        I hope the loss of life of ordinary people (especially the Kurds) can be minimized

    • 90 forus50
      October 12, 2014 at 2:50 pm

      hmmm not sure – Bob would know! Kobane is a small city of approximately 45,000 located in Syria but right on the border near Turkey.Turkey is blocking reinforcements for the Kurds so I’m not sure if it’s a tactical mistake of the ISIL as the biggest problem for the past few days was that a) the coalition didn’t attack until ISIL was near or in the city and b) the Kurds are land locked with no way to get reinforcements. I think the late strikes were because of the difficulty getting ground coordination with the Kurds of areas to attack.

      I’ve been following @kahitstorm and https://twitter.com/jenanmoussa on Twitter to get updates on it. It sounds like the airstrikes are helping still but the biggest problem is that the Kurds need more men and women in the city with weapons. Not only is Turkey not helping with ground troops – which they say is because it would be invading Syria — but they have a blockade of any supplies for the Kurds going into Kobane.

  36. 95 jacquelineoboomer
    October 12, 2014 at 2:21 pm

    I think it’s gonna be more like the Earth is still here, but all the people will be gone.

  37. 96 hopefruit2
    October 12, 2014 at 2:24 pm

    I haven’t seen LockeIsWright (sp) for a while? He must be busy cooking today.

    • October 12, 2014 at 2:42 pm

      Have also been wondering about Layla and Fred.

      • 98 HZ
        October 12, 2014 at 4:56 pm

        Bobfr, I have also been worried about Layla and Formerly Fred. They are constantly on my mind, but I have hesitated to say something because I did not want to leave an impression that” the little old lady” is dipping in places. (Those are my words). Not my TOD family, for sure.
        Just love and deeply concerned about them. I am hoping for goodness to be in both of their spaces. Love them so, and these times are difficult for so many of us.

        (((((((((((((( Loving thoughts and hugs to our Layla and Fred and LockeIsWright)))))))))))) TOD family, HZ

  38. 99 JER
    October 12, 2014 at 2:32 pm

    President Obama talks on the phone with HHS Secretary Sylvia Mathews Burwell concerning the latest update on the Ebola situation.


    petesouza

  39. 100 hopefruit2
    October 12, 2014 at 2:35 pm

  40. 101 jacquelineoboomer
    October 12, 2014 at 2:37 pm

  41. 102 globalcitizenlinda
    October 12, 2014 at 2:42 pm

    if someone has a clear understanding of what the long-term strategy is for Gaza, please share it;

    I am perplexed:
    – a few weeks ago there were thousands of images of the destruction that was taking place in Gaza;

    – now international conferences are being held to fundraise billions to rebuild Gaza and nations are making pledges;

    – when will this cycle of destruction & rebuilding come an end and what will it take to get genuine peace in this part of the world ?

    • October 12, 2014 at 2:57 pm

      Won’t happen until Jewish Israelis and Palestinians decide to establish respected borders and become trading partners rather than adversaries dedicated to annihilation of each other. It’s not as if it hasn’t been done before, throughout history.

    • 105 hopefruit2
      October 12, 2014 at 3:04 pm

      I hear ya Linda! So many questions; so few answers….and like you said, never-ending cycle of destruction and rebuilding. A very frustrating experience at best. Let’s see how this one plays out….

      • 106 globalcitizenlinda
        October 12, 2014 at 3:42 pm

        yet another conflict to watch with such heavy hearts but with hope the best always at the horizon

  42. October 12, 2014 at 2:55 pm

    • 108 Nerdy Wonka
      October 12, 2014 at 2:59 pm

      Here Be Grifters.

      If you can’t sell your ODS paranoia here, why not take it to a place where people on the ground are doing good work and try to make everything about you.

      Grifters Playbook 101. Eh, Cornel West?

    • 110 forus50
      October 12, 2014 at 3:04 pm

      OMG, how sickening. The flyer has asshat West described as “noted public intellectual”. I don’t think there is supposed to be an “L” in the middle word.

    • 113 Don
      October 12, 2014 at 3:10 pm

      well it took his ass long enough.

    • 116 CEB
      October 12, 2014 at 3:33 pm

      When will this fool learn that it is not about him? It is so sad that he and others like him are not doing anything on the ground in a daily fight for justice and equality. Here they come again with their effing seminars to make obvious statements, get attention, get paid and leave. I am sure that he will be on Tavis’s show pontificating some time soon. Contrast this with out PBO who as a young man left the Ivory Towers to work as a community organizer among the people who needed him. His whole political career has always been about doing something rather than being someone and that is why he is president of the USA. I will be so glad to finally see the end of these parasitic grifters who feed on their own.

    • 118 globalcitizenlinda
      October 12, 2014 at 3:56 pm

      clarifying information about the organizers of this event – which person with a clear fair mind pays ANY attention to what crap west sprouts these days?

      most people I know don’t ;

      by the of this event today, the quotes will be about him and his attacks on PBO

      • 119 HZ
        October 12, 2014 at 5:13 pm

        Thank you all for summing this all up for me, especially Chips. You said what I was yelling out in my house. Chips, you gave me pause for not having to take another pill. (((((TY)))))HZ

  43. 120 jacquelineoboomer
    October 12, 2014 at 3:10 pm

  44. October 12, 2014 at 3:16 pm

  45. 123 forus50
    October 12, 2014 at 3:16 pm

    This guy is great to follow if you are interested in the ISIL attack on the Kurdish city, Kobane.

    one from a few days ago as he was doing live tweet reporting from a pepper field outside of Kobane.

  46. 124 Linda
    October 12, 2014 at 3:17 pm

    Oct 11 (Reuters) – Members of an NBC News crew who worked with a cameraman who contracted Ebola in Liberia have been quarantined, New Jersey health officials said on Saturday.

    Officials said the order was issued late Friday after the crew members violated an agreement to voluntarily confine themselves. They said none of the team has exhibited symptoms of the often fatal disease since returning from Liberia, one of three West African countries at the epicenter of the outbreak.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/10/12/nbc-news-quarantined-crew-ebola-cameraman-journalist_n_5970126.html

    Waiting for NBC or MSNBC to report on this..

  47. 125 Nena20409
    October 12, 2014 at 3:27 pm

    Good Sunday Sunny Afternoon…..a Perfect Fall weather from the state with at least 10K lakes…..more like 15K lakes.
    Au ⭐ for Chips 😉
    Awesome thread NW, Thank You.
    Just finished mowing the lawn and wrecking some leaves…….

    Wow….had not really paid much attention to the news today……but learned at about 10:30 AM CT that at the Dallas Presbyterian Hospital, a Female Nurse contracted Ebola. I feel for her and her family.
    Question…..or rather a concern…..Emory has treated Ebola cases…..and so has a Hospital in NE……and nothing this awful has happened in either two facilities.

    Wow.

  48. October 12, 2014 at 7:58 pm


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