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Racism: From Ferguson PD To The NBA

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The Racist Email

Regarding game ops, i need to start with some background. for the first couple of years we owned the team, i didn’t much focus on game ops. then one day a light bulb went off. when digging into why our season ticket base is so small, i was told it is because we can’t get 35-55 white males and corporations to buy season tixs and they are the primary demo for season tickets around the league. when i pushed further, folks generally shrugged their shoulders. then i start looking around our arena during games and notice the following:

– it’s 70 pct black

– the cheerleaders are black

– the music is hip hop

– at the bars it’s 90 pct black

– there are few fathers and sons at the games

– we are doing after game concerts to attract more fans and the concerts are either hip hop or gospel.

Then i start looking around at other arenas. It is completely different. Even DC with its affluent black community never has more than 15 pct black audience. Before we bought the hawks and for those couple years immediately after in an effort to make the arena look full (at the nba’s urging) thousands and thousands of tickets were being giving away, predominantly in the black community, adding to the overwhelming black audience. My theory is that the black crowd scared away the whites and there are simply not enough affluent black fans to build a signficant season ticket base. Please dont get me wrong. There was nothing threatening going on in the arean back then. i never felt uncomfortable, but i think southern whites simply were not comfortable being in an arena or at a bar where they were in the minority. On fan sites i would read comments about how dangerous it is around philips yet in our 9 years, i don’t know of a mugging or even a pick pocket incident. This was just racist garbage. When I hear some people saying the arena is in the wrong place I think it is code for there are too many blacks at the games. I have been open with our executive team about these concerns. I have told them I want some white cheerleaders and while i don’t care what the color of the artist is, i want the music to be music familiar to a 40 year old white guy if that’s our season tixs demo. i have also balked when every fan picked out of crowd to shoot shots in some time out contest is black.

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I have even bitched that the kiss cam is too black. Gradually things have changed. My unscientific guess is that our crowd is 40 pct black now, still four to five times all other teams. And my further guess is that 40 pct still feels like 70 pet to some whites at our games. Our bars are still overwhelmingly black. This is obviously a sensitive topic, but sadly i think it is far and way the number one reason our season ticket base is so low. And many of our black fans don’t have the spendable income which explains why our f&b and merchandise sales are so low. At all white thrasher games sales were nearly triple what they are at hawks games (the extra intermission explains some of that but not all). Regardless of what time a game starts, we have the latest arriving crowd in the league. It often looks and sounds empty when the team takes the floor. In the past two years, we have created a section of rowdy college students that has been a big plus. And we do a lot of very clever stuff during time outs to entertain the crowd. Our kiss cam is better done than any in the league. We have all the same halftime acts that other arenas have but i question whether they make sense. people are on their cell phones during half time. i wonder if flashing on the scoreboard “$2 off on hot dogs during halftime tonight” just as the half ends would be a better use of our halftime dollars and make the fans happier. We do all the usual giveways and the fans are usually their loudest when our spirit crew takes the floor to give away t-shirts. It pisses me off that they will yell louder for a t-shirt then for our players. Our player intro is flat. We manufacture a lot of noise but because of the late arriving crowd and the fact that a lot of blacks dont seem to go as crazy cheering (another one of my theories) as whites, it is not great.

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121 Responses to “Racism: From Ferguson PD To The NBA”


  1. September 7, 2014 at 3:55 pm

    Afternoon all. Great posts today.

  2. 4 Nerdy Wonka
    September 7, 2014 at 3:57 pm

  3. September 7, 2014 at 3:59 pm

    Perhaps WP has GOP leanings? They only like No! Am on pharaoh ant patrol today. Very challenging and frustrating. However, given their job is to manage decomposing, and that they have been on earth for billenia, I suppose my fleeting frustration means little to them!! I also have no doubt they will prevail! Seems our building is infested with them. They stay outside for summer, but nights are cooling now, and they winter well in these cozy buildings. So wiki tells me. Back later. The Ants Go Marching, One By One, Hurrah, Hurrah! ;(

    • September 7, 2014 at 4:01 pm

      ❤ Please forgive my totally random and O/T comment. I was on the last thread trying to post, everything kept collapsing, had already Cut, so pasting seemed as if it might not matter… Sigh. WP, what the heck art thou?? Big hugs y'all, back in a bit. ❤

    • 7 vcprezofan2
      September 7, 2014 at 4:30 pm

      Hi! How’s ya doin’? Hope all is well. I’m on my way out as I’m supposed to be cooking. 😉

    • 8 arapaho415
      September 7, 2014 at 6:30 pm

      MP,

      For me, your post was quite timely. 🙂

      All my life I’ve been told that ants come inside homes, seeking water. In SoCal, that means our hottest days bring out our ant problems. (I have no idea if this is true or not, but everyone I’ve spoken to believes it to be true).

      Spraying windex (or faux windex) works for me.

      However, today after I sprayed faux windex on a column of ants on the patio floor, I returned a couple of hours later to find a HUGE number in one of my deck planters, most of whom were carrying white bundles. According to Google results, these bundles are not eggs, but are instead larva. But it freaked me out, having never seen this phenomenon before.

      The faux windex seems to have worked (fingers crossed). The deck planter has some annuals that I was planning to uproot after the Autumnal equinox — it will be interesting to see if they survived the megadose of faux windex sprayed onto them and their soil.

      I’m purchasing boric acid now on Amazon for permanent results.

      P.S. – These are not pharaoh ants; had never heard of them before now.

  4. September 7, 2014 at 4:24 pm

    Great threads NW. Thank you!

  5. 11 0388jojothecat
    September 7, 2014 at 4:35 pm

    So Ted Bundy was a Republican…..it all makes sense now.

  6. September 7, 2014 at 4:40 pm

    The roaches are crawling out from under the rock!

  7. 13 anniebella
    September 7, 2014 at 4:42 pm

    Hay white folks racism is gone.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  8. 15 jacquelineoboomer
    September 7, 2014 at 4:44 pm

    BBL to finish reading this post. Thanks for all the great info, Chips and NW. ❤ Have a good Sunday, TODville!

  9. 16 Inswinger
    September 7, 2014 at 4:45 pm

    Nerdy, great thread, thanks. As I posted a few weeks ago (one way) to fully understand institutional, calcified and generational racism in this country watch the treatises on this malaise I posted a couple of weeks back by Michelle Alexander and Khalil Gibran Muhammad.

  10. 17 Nena20409
    September 7, 2014 at 5:02 pm

    You are One of Kind, Nerdy Wonka. Wow. You took it there! Awesome Post!
    The majority in this nation are so sure to DENY Racism. Why? They Love status quo…..the ruling amongst them. The majority will forever DENY Racism for it hits too close to HOME.

    We in USA Love to Claim how Great Thou Are/Us. We love to See ourselves as The Good Guys.
    An addict……in this case, We The People………have refused to acknowledge our Enslavement of our fellow Human Beings. That Denial is stopping This Nation from Growing and making this nation……A more perfect Union.

    Until We Face Our Collective Demon…….Our Cure…..Our True Freedom will NEVER be achieved.

    The World is watching. They know this. They snarl at Us and the Ugly Americans will continue to Bite Us in the Butt.

  11. 18 Nena20409
    September 7, 2014 at 5:04 pm

    Tom Brady….Lost. I can deal better with Oakland losing. Pitt and Philly won. Great.

  12. 19 Nena20409
    September 7, 2014 at 5:07 pm

    United Kingdom with 3 instead of 4? After all these years? Hmm?

  13. 21 JER
    September 7, 2014 at 5:09 pm

  14. September 7, 2014 at 5:14 pm

    So darn sweet!!!!

  15. 23 Nena20409
    September 7, 2014 at 5:24 pm

    Justice Antonin Scalia…..did this. Had it been a Liberal appointed Justice, the GOP would be calling for his Impeachment.

  16. 24 Nena20409
    September 7, 2014 at 5:26 pm

    5-2 Serena Williams. 18 is the magic number for 33. She won her 1st US Open in 1997 at 17 yrs old. Go Serena, Go, Go!

  17. September 7, 2014 at 5:29 pm

    Love Betty…

  18. 28 Nena20409
    September 7, 2014 at 5:37 pm

  19. 29 Nena20409
    September 7, 2014 at 5:37 pm

  20. 30 Nerdy Wonka
    September 7, 2014 at 5:40 pm

    YES!!!! Serena won the first set: 6 – 3.

  21. 31 hopefruit2
    September 7, 2014 at 5:43 pm

    WOW..Serena is on game.

  22. 32 Nena20409
    September 7, 2014 at 5:54 pm

    Serena…..3-1…………….YES! Second Set.

  23. September 7, 2014 at 6:01 pm

    #CeaseFireDeadlyFarce continues ….

  24. September 7, 2014 at 6:09 pm

    In other news ….

    I don’t think its just talk for President Rouhani …

    And, can you imagine President Obama being allowed by the SS to do this in DC (or anywhere) ….

    When we talk about freedom, we may want to reflect on that image.

  25. September 7, 2014 at 6:11 pm

    Agree ….

  26. 38 Nena20409
    September 7, 2014 at 6:12 pm

    Serena! Serena! Serena!
    6-3
    6-3

    18 Titles at 33 yrs old!

    BFD!

    Congrats!

  27. 39 Nerdy Wonka
    September 7, 2014 at 6:15 pm

    YES!!! YES!!!!! YES!!!!!!!!

    With straight sets of 6-3, 6-3, Serena Williams just won her 18th Grand Slam title.

    She came to win and she did.

    She is the GREATEST OF ALL TIME.

  28. 40 Nerdy Wonka
    September 7, 2014 at 6:16 pm

  29. 44 Nerdy Wonka
    September 7, 2014 at 6:16 pm

  30. 45 Nerdy Wonka
    September 7, 2014 at 6:17 pm

    Serena Williams coach.

  31. 46 yardarm756
    September 7, 2014 at 6:21 pm

    SHE DID IT!

  32. September 7, 2014 at 6:22 pm

    Serena gets another $1 million in bonus prize money.

    $ 4 million in checks tonight!!

    Martina and Chris are there to welcome Serena to the 18 Grand Slam Club!

  33. 48 hopefruit2
    September 7, 2014 at 6:23 pm

    Hey amk – Serena has given you a reason to live! Now you have no excuse 🙂

  34. 49 Nerdy Wonka
    September 7, 2014 at 6:23 pm

  35. 50 Nena20409
    September 7, 2014 at 6:24 pm

    Katy Perry’s Roar was being played…..Serena wearing a Leopard Print outfit…… 😎

  36. 54 hopefruit2
    September 7, 2014 at 6:26 pm

    I find it a bit odd that Serena is not trending on Twitter…she just made history.

  37. 56 Nerdy Wonka
    September 7, 2014 at 6:30 pm

  38. 57 Nena20409
    September 7, 2014 at 6:32 pm

  39. 58 Nena20409
    September 7, 2014 at 6:34 pm

  40. 59 hopefruit2
    September 7, 2014 at 6:35 pm

  41. September 7, 2014 at 6:36 pm

    In other news ….

    BTW, rumors that Ahmed Alduliami, Mayor of Anbar, was killed are false.

  42. 69 Nena20409
    September 7, 2014 at 6:39 pm
  43. 70 Nerdy Wonka
    September 7, 2014 at 6:42 pm

  44. 72 desertflower
    September 7, 2014 at 6:43 pm

    http://blogforarizona.net/9th-citcvuit-court-of-appeals-to-hear-same-sex-marriage-appeals-on-monday/

    On September 8, 2014, the United States Court of Appeals for the Ninth Circuit will hear oral arguments in the Hawaii, Idaho and Nevada gay marriage cases. The arguments will begin at 1 p.m. in Courtroom One of the James R. Browning U.S. Courthouse, 95 7th St., San Francisco.

    The court strongly encourages interested persons to use the Internet to watch the oral arguments via live video streaming from the courtroom. To access the stream, visit the court website – http://www.ca9.uscourts.gov – and click on the link under the beige-colored bar labeled “Live Oral Arguments.” Streaming will commence a few minutes prior to the start of the proceedings.

  45. September 7, 2014 at 6:44 pm

    For now, the transfer of the Mistrals to Vlad has been put on hold. However, this is an important read …

  46. 74 Nena20409
    September 7, 2014 at 6:47 pm

  47. September 7, 2014 at 6:48 pm

    A safer Detroit means big fines and racial profiling for black residents

    Detroit’s gentrified makeover means more policing of nuisance crimes – but the fines fall disproportionately on black residents
    Rose Hackman
    theguardian.com, Sunday 7 September 2014 12.00 EDT

    What’s the cost of more police crackdowns in Detroit for “quality of life” issues?

    For Xavier Johnson, a young black businessman in the city, it’s $1,500 in fines that he can’t afford.

    Call it the price of gentrification. Johnson, a rising star in Detroit’s startup community, is one of many residents paying the price for an aggressive style of policing that has overtaken the city as it cleans up its reputation. Current Detroit residents – mostly African-American – face an added cost of living as the city police pile on nuisance fines to crack down on smaller crimes. The effect is to make the city more appealing to successful, and mostly white, middle class professionals – while burdening the city’s poorest with more bills to pay.

    The hotly contested police strategy is called “broken windows”, and Detroit police chief James “Hollywood” Craig has embraced it with fervour. The theory – popularised by New York Mayor Rudolph Giuliani’s police chief William Bratton in the 1990s – means cracking down on smaller nuisance crimes in order to prevent those larger, more violent ones. Think of the crackdown on “squeegee men” who forcibly cleaned drivers’ windows for tips.

    The deaths of Eric Garner and Michael Brown this summer at the hands of police officers in New York City and Ferguson, Missouri, are also examples of broken windows policing, spun out of control. While Eric Garner was placed in a fatal chokehold after being stopped for selling untaxed cigarettes, current information shows Michael Brown stopped just moments before he was shot for walking in the middle of the road, or jaywalking: both “quality of life” offences.

    http://www.theguardian.com/money/2014/sep/07/safer-detroit-fines-racial-profiling-black-residents

  48. 77 Nena20409
    September 7, 2014 at 6:53 pm

    $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

  49. 80 Nena20409
    September 7, 2014 at 6:56 pm

  50. 86 hopefruit2
    September 7, 2014 at 6:58 pm

    Has anyone heard about this?!?!?!?

  51. 87 anniebella
    September 7, 2014 at 6:58 pm

    Congratulation to the greatest female tennis player…….Ms. Serena Williams.

  52. 88 taiping1
    September 7, 2014 at 7:04 pm

    In tears watching her win. Such am amazing, graceful woman.

  53. 89 hopefruit2
    September 7, 2014 at 7:06 pm

    So he’s been at GOPolitico for less than 1 yr…

  54. September 7, 2014 at 7:08 pm

    It’s as if they never read any history. Of course, they have read it, but, as always, megalomania prevails. BTW, megalomania is a fatal disease.

  55. September 7, 2014 at 7:08 pm

  56. September 7, 2014 at 7:13 pm

  57. September 7, 2014 at 7:15 pm

    So many outstanding women running for office ….

    They all can win if we VOTE!!

  58. September 7, 2014 at 7:17 pm

  59. September 7, 2014 at 7:21 pm

    Vlad knows that he must defeat Azov and occupy Mariupol for his strategy to work ….

    President Poroshenko now faces the moment where his words need to transform to actions. He said on Friday that if Putin didn’t honor the cease fire he would take ‘decisive action’ … tick, tick, tick ….

    Anyone still thinking that #MessianicVlad is going to stop on his own needs professional psychiatric care.

  60. September 7, 2014 at 7:21 pm

    This guy shutdown the police

    Never Open the Door for the cops, but if you do, never consent to warrantless searches

    • 105 0388jojothecat
      September 7, 2014 at 8:14 pm

      I would not have opened the door to them but I am so proud of him that he knew his rights and told those lying bastards to get a warrant.

  61. 106 99ts
    September 7, 2014 at 7:23 pm

    Reading LGF and the interview – saw this comment in relation to Chuck Toad

    “Never assign to malice that which is much more likely utter incompetency.”

    Ole Chuck didn’t listen to a word the President said – he was waiting to get his gotcha points into the conversation.

    http://littlegreenfootballs.com/article/43816_Video-_President_Obamas_Full_Interview_With_Chuck_Todd/comments/#ctop

    • September 7, 2014 at 7:50 pm

      99, what struck me, as conveyed in this tweet, was Chuckles desperation for a gotcha resulted in the grossest of incompetence – the darn interview was recorded!! They had ample time to edit, but went with it anyway presumably assuming no one would notice (which likely was the case for the demented few who still watch #mtp as if it mattered).

      • 108 99ts
        September 7, 2014 at 7:55 pm

        It really was a big fail – I would have loved to hear the President say “Please Proceed Mr Todd”

        I doubt Chuck listened to a word the President said. I have spent time with so many people who, rather than listen, are panting to be the talker.

        As for editing – I doubt, even now, that Chuck has any idea as to what PBO said and sadly, none of his NBC “friends” are going to call him on it.

    • 109 jacquelineoboomer
      September 7, 2014 at 7:57 pm

      Listen AND ask corresponding, relevant questions? Don’t be silly … this is Chuck Todd we’re talking about! #FAIL

  62. September 7, 2014 at 7:27 pm

  63. 113 Nena20409
    September 7, 2014 at 7:30 pm

  64. 114 Nena20409
    September 7, 2014 at 7:43 pm

  65. September 7, 2014 at 7:51 pm

    I loveddddddddddd SchoolHouse Rock… 😀 😀

  66. September 7, 2014 at 8:04 pm

  67. 119 jacquelineoboomer
    September 7, 2014 at 8:09 pm

  68. 120 amk for obama
    September 7, 2014 at 8:33 pm

    Go Serena. All straight sets too.

  69. 121 Obama Grandmama
    September 7, 2014 at 9:46 pm

    Am currently watching my Tivoed MTP. Am watching the interview portion only. Concentrating on the questions and PBO’s answers only. Am fast forwarding through the so called expert discussions. PBO needed a forum to answer these questions. It is better to hear it straight from him so in addition to watching him speak I intend to read the entire transcript. I will only watch when our President is interviewed.


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