Congrats Dudette. I know. Supposedly some young folks got rowdy. Reporter says not enough adults out tonight. But, to me that doesn’t call for teargas and rubber bullets.
Yes it is horrible. I wish we could all go there in support of the protesters. Especially white people like me to show solidarity. There are more of us than there are the police.
Tear gas being fired at protestors again. Not even curfew now. Cops are in riot gear and gas masks!
Protestors hands up, some on their knees! This is OUTRAGEOUS!!!
If you’re on Twitter, go the #Ferguson or @AntonioFrench.
“After police in Kenosha, Wis., shot my 21-year-old son to death outside his house ten years ago — and then immediately cleared themselves of all wrongdoing — an African-American man approached me and said: “If they can shoot a white boy like a dog, imagine what we’ve been going through.”
A white, retired Air Force officer speaks: What I Did After Police Killed My Son http://t.co/u4eZMCrTOt
Nerdy, left you a little note at the end of the last thread about how important your work is on this subject. You have been bringing it all — the frustration, the sorrow, the anger, the inspiration, the humanity and the facts. You are a force of nature.
Am I paranoid or somebody has an agenda here ? It’s like some people want to force the President’s hand so he will federalize the Missouri National Guard and send them in Ferguson.
I am with you love politics. Someone is deliberately sabotaging Ron Johnson but it will not end well for that group. I suspected as much especially when he showed the community that he could relate because of his own son and said don’t tell me anything behind closed doors you don’t want me to repeat outside of it.
“The bullets did not appear to have been shot from very close range because no gunpowder was present on his body. However, that determination could change if it turns out that there is gunshot residue on Mr. Brown’s clothing, to which Dr. Baden did not have access.”
“Dr. Baden said that while Mr. Brown was shot at least six times, only three bullets were recovered from his body. But he has not yet seen the X-rays showing where the bullets were found, which would clarify the autopsy results. Nor has he had access to witness and police statements.
Dr. Baden provided a diagram of the entry wounds, and noted that the six shots produced numerous wounds. Some of the bullets entered and exited several times, including one that left at least five different wounds.
“This one here looks like his head was bent downward,” he said, indicating the wound at the very top of Mr. Brown’s head. “It can be because he’s giving up, or because he’s charging forward at the officer.”
He stressed that his information does not assign blame or justify the shooting.
Continue reading the main story
“We need more information; for example, the police should be examining the automobile to see if there is gunshot residue in the police car,” he said.
Dr. Baden, 80, is a well-known New York-based medical examiner, who is one of only about 400 board-certified forensic pathologists in the nation. He reviewed the autopsies of both President John F. Kennedy and the Rev. Dr. Martin Luther King Jr., and has performed more than 20,000 autopsies himself. ”
SNIP
One of the bullets shattered Mr. Brown’s right eye, traveled through his face, exited his jaw and re-entered his collarbone. The last two shots in the head would have stopped him in his tracks and were likely the last fired.
Mr. Brown, he said, would not have survived the shooting even if he had been taken to a hospital right away. The autopsy indicated that he was otherwise healthy.
SNIP
“In my capacity as the forensic examiner for the New York State Police, I would say, ‘You’re not supposed to shoot so many times,’ ” said Dr. Baden, who retired from the state police in 2011. “Right now there is too little information to forensically reconstruct the shooting.”
Right? It was TOTALLY planted. These THUGS had to spend at least 3 hours first with a big circle jerk at the station before getting all this body armor on, loading all their weapons before turning tanks and weapons on completely defenseless citizens.
it is a beautiful thing Nerdy. They cannot hide this and all the world saw it. It is no longer a black problem. It is now officially an AMERICAN problem.
Now can we stop pussyfooting around and fix this shit.
you damn right. So to say they just happened to be in military gear, with tanks, and machine guns and just happened to start sending tear gas through the crowd of people with babies, the elderly, and people who were handicapped 3 hours before an unconstitutional curfew because some one “shot through the crowd” or “rioted” is bullshit.
I’ll give him credit. He hasn’t run. He’s out there reminding me of Rambo, but he’s trying to report exactly what he sees. At least at this moment. That’s important.
I couldn’t believe it Nospin. It looked like they were roughing him up – at best – and the anchor was nervous about what we were seeing. So what do they do? They pull away their cameras. The same people who have shown Michael Brown in the store on a loop. This is obscene.
THERE ARE SEVERAL WAYS TO FIND JUSTICE PARTNERED WITH THE MATURITY OF THOSE WHO SEEK IT…VIOLENCE IN THE STREETS IS NOTHING BUT AN OPEN INVITATION TO EXTREMISTS AND IT IS AN EMBARRASSMENT TO ALL THAT AMERICA STANDS FOR…THE PRESIDENT CALLED FOR PEACE AND CALM AS A WAY TO AT LEAST SHOW INTEGRITY…IT HAS BEEN WAY OVER THE EDGE.
There was no violence in the streets until the PD showed up. There are protests over something in every big city almost every day. It’s called “the right to assemble” otherwise referred to as the FIRST AMENDMENT.
THE EXTREMISTS ARE THE IMPORTS NOT FROM THE AREA WHO COME IN TO LOOT AND FIRE UP TEMPERS…THE PRESIDENT CALLED FOR PEACE AND SO DID REV. AL…PEOPLE NEED TO LISTEN…NOW THE NATIONAL GUARD IS COMING IN…EXPECTED INDEED!
I AM REFERRING TO THE ACTIONS OF TEMPERS FLARING….NOT THE FIRST AMENDMENT. I ALSO BELIEVE IN WAITING FOR THE OUTCOME OF DOJ INVESTIGATIONS…THAT IS THE MATURE ACTION TO TAKE….PERIOD!
We need to now pay attention to the autopsy report – yet none of the media is reporting it. WHY?
Because they’re too busy reporting on the spectacle in Ferguson – trying to portray the protesters as agitators, and the autospy report DOES NOT PUT KILLER COP WILSON in a good light, and pretty much confirms the eyewitness accounts.
they will get to the autopsy report HF2. and I don’t think could get away with will portraying the protestors as agitators. Not when the media were threatened with getting shot, teargassed and maced.
The autopsy report is far more important to the ongoing investigation than any report of media getting teargassed. This can easily become a distraction and really shouldn’t be about the media.
the anchor is like "fuck that autopsy report, I'm gonna talk about some fire" #sigh
I think both are important and I am confident that they will be all over the autopsy report tomorrow. Tonight was a critical turning point and I am thankful it was reported.
I hope you are right about the autopsy report. But I suspect the media is holding off reporting until they can find a way to smear the medical examiner, discredit the report, and obtain a fresh set of talking points from their sponsors at Koch, ALEC, NRA, KKK, etc….
Michael Eric Dyson needs to STFU! Once again Barack the Magic Negro needs to give a speech and the racists will stop being racists. Right – like before! So sick of these Ivory Tower sitters who do nothing but flap their lips.
The Obama Diary 
Damn. Turn on MSNBC!
Congrats Dudette. I know. Supposedly some young folks got rowdy. Reporter says not enough adults out tonight. But, to me that doesn’t call for teargas and rubber bullets.
Me neither, sabreen.
Congrats Dudette!
Thanks J4O. Hard to celebrate given what I’m watching right now.
Yes it is horrible. I wish we could all go there in support of the protesters. Especially white people like me to show solidarity. There are more of us than there are the police.
That’s what I wish. That many more of us white people would get out there. Wish I could go.
Tear gas being fired at protestors again. Not even curfew now. Cops are in riot gear and gas masks!
Protestors hands up, some on their knees! This is OUTRAGEOUS!!!
If you’re on Twitter, go the #Ferguson or @AntonioFrench.
“After police in Kenosha, Wis., shot my 21-year-old son to death outside his house ten years ago — and then immediately cleared themselves of all wrongdoing — an African-American man approached me and said: “If they can shoot a white boy like a dog, imagine what we’ve been going through.”
Nerdy, left you a little note at the end of the last thread about how important your work is on this subject. You have been bringing it all — the frustration, the sorrow, the anger, the inspiration, the humanity and the facts. You are a force of nature.
Thank you, Jackie.
OMG….
It looks like it might be the SLPD behind this disturbing behavior.
OMG! The tanks are back with guns drawn on protestors. Seriously, this requires the feds to take over.
yep. What the hell is going on ? Ron Johnson is supposed to be in charge and it sure looks like the local PD isn’t under his authority.
St-Louis County police, and Ferguson police are doing their own thing.
ANd I just get the feeling that the local PD is telling a big FU to Ron Johnson, Governor Nixon, AG Holder and even the President.
“ANd I just get the feeling that the local PD is telling a big FU to Ron Johnson, Governor Nixon, AG Holder and even the President.”
and that is where they fucked up. They never learn.
Am I paranoid or somebody has an agenda here ? It’s like some people want to force the President’s hand so he will federalize the Missouri National Guard and send them in Ferguson.
Why are they doing THIS? I am sick to my stomach!!!!
😦 😦 😦
Both aljazeera and cnn intl broadcasting live the wonderful life in murka.
Excellent coverage as usual, NW. This shit just got even more real 😦
Hi Sabreen, I tried sending you a DM but it didn’t work as *you* are not following me.
They need to dismiss the entire police department especially police chief. This is sick
Are we still gonna be saying how extremely complicated and delicate it is for the feds to get involved?
It has become easier tonight that’s for sure.
It’s clear that Ron JOhnson isn’t in control of the operations. What the HELL is going on behind the scenes ?
I am with you love politics. Someone is deliberately sabotaging Ron Johnson but it will not end well for that group. I suspected as much especially when he showed the community that he could relate because of his own son and said don’t tell me anything behind closed doors you don’t want me to repeat outside of it.
Just as relevant today as it was in 1965 ….
… Baldwin’s lesson still unlearned in much of America as events tonight in Ferguson, yet again, reaffirm.
AND HERE WE GO: BOOM!!!
And a key thing:
“The bullets did not appear to have been shot from very close range because no gunpowder was present on his body. However, that determination could change if it turns out that there is gunshot residue on Mr. Brown’s clothing, to which Dr. Baden did not have access.”
WHERE THE PHUCK IS THE GOVERNOR!!?!?!?
President Obama came back to the Whitehouse for meetings. I wonder if it is Russia, Israel or Ferguson or is it all of the above?
All of the above, plus Iraq, immigration EO and inversion EO, most likely also on the list.
“With one side having ZERO weapons to defend themselves.”
thank you for that Bobfr. That needed to be clear.
One of the reasons for the third autopsy must be because witnesses have said he was shot in the back once.
what the frak????
Dudette, didn’t I say this time would be different. That what the PD planned to do would not turn out as they expected?
Yep.
Reading on my TL about the Brown family’s private autopsy:
I wonder if the Buddhist monks from Tibet were in the crowd.
https://twitter.com/Dudette9t9/status/501204718975451137
OMG. Darren Wilson pretty much executed him.
“Dr. Baden said that while Mr. Brown was shot at least six times, only three bullets were recovered from his body. But he has not yet seen the X-rays showing where the bullets were found, which would clarify the autopsy results. Nor has he had access to witness and police statements.
Dr. Baden provided a diagram of the entry wounds, and noted that the six shots produced numerous wounds. Some of the bullets entered and exited several times, including one that left at least five different wounds.
“This one here looks like his head was bent downward,” he said, indicating the wound at the very top of Mr. Brown’s head. “It can be because he’s giving up, or because he’s charging forward at the officer.”
He stressed that his information does not assign blame or justify the shooting.
Continue reading the main story
“We need more information; for example, the police should be examining the automobile to see if there is gunshot residue in the police car,” he said.
Dr. Baden, 80, is a well-known New York-based medical examiner, who is one of only about 400 board-certified forensic pathologists in the nation. He reviewed the autopsies of both President John F. Kennedy and the Rev. Dr. Martin Luther King Jr., and has performed more than 20,000 autopsies himself. ”
SNIP
One of the bullets shattered Mr. Brown’s right eye, traveled through his face, exited his jaw and re-entered his collarbone. The last two shots in the head would have stopped him in his tracks and were likely the last fired.
Mr. Brown, he said, would not have survived the shooting even if he had been taken to a hospital right away. The autopsy indicated that he was otherwise healthy.
SNIP
“In my capacity as the forensic examiner for the New York State Police, I would say, ‘You’re not supposed to shoot so many times,’ ” said Dr. Baden, who retired from the state police in 2011. “Right now there is too little information to forensically reconstruct the shooting.”
Why should I believe that shots were fired tonight which precipitated this mess by the police?
Donna, the police planted that to try to say that is why they responded. WE SEE THEM.
And they are so stupid they just happened to show up with tanks, guns drawn and war gear? Bullshit.
But yet the media that I am watching is all reporting that the tanks are there because of “shots fired” with very little questioning of that theory.
The media is only there for the spectacle – not to report the truth.
Right? It was TOTALLY planted. These THUGS had to spend at least 3 hours first with a big circle jerk at the station before getting all this body armor on, loading all their weapons before turning tanks and weapons on completely defenseless citizens.
it is a beautiful thing Nerdy. They cannot hide this and all the world saw it. It is no longer a black problem. It is now officially an AMERICAN problem.
Now can we stop pussyfooting around and fix this shit.
Those police people are completely consumed by fear. They have no training for this, don’t have any idea what they’re doing.
Time for the National Guard . ASAP.
exactly. the brazenness of the PD and county officials is mind boggling.
Thanks a million Nerdy.
This is all unbelievable.
you damn right. So to say they just happened to be in military gear, with tanks, and machine guns and just happened to start sending tear gas through the crowd of people with babies, the elderly, and people who were handicapped 3 hours before an unconstitutional curfew because some one “shot through the crowd” or “rioted” is bullshit.
tell it
And he’s not the only one from the media who’s learning something tonight.
I’ll give him credit. He hasn’t run. He’s out there reminding me of Rambo, but he’s trying to report exactly what he sees. At least at this moment. That’s important.
go Chipsticks! Complicit, soulless fuckwits
I couldn’t believe it Nospin. It looked like they were roughing him up – at best – and the anchor was nervous about what we were seeing. So what do they do? They pull away their cameras. The same people who have shown Michael Brown in the store on a loop. This is obscene.
RAOTFLMAO
hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
welcome to our world Chris.
If we ever needed Barack Obama, now is the time. No, not saying he “needs to do [x]”. But he’s the only one who, again, can save our sorry nation.
LIVE NOW: Ferguson – Antonio French on Phone – http://www.cbsnews.com/liveFeed/widget.shtml
And it’s a damned fucking insane shame that we can’t control ourselves, but have to depend on one mere human to lead us the right way.
Truth!
THERE ARE SEVERAL WAYS TO FIND JUSTICE PARTNERED WITH THE MATURITY OF THOSE WHO SEEK IT…VIOLENCE IN THE STREETS IS NOTHING BUT AN OPEN INVITATION TO EXTREMISTS AND IT IS AN EMBARRASSMENT TO ALL THAT AMERICA STANDS FOR…THE PRESIDENT CALLED FOR PEACE AND CALM AS A WAY TO AT LEAST SHOW INTEGRITY…IT HAS BEEN WAY OVER THE EDGE.
There was no violence in the streets until the PD showed up. There are protests over something in every big city almost every day. It’s called “the right to assemble” otherwise referred to as the FIRST AMENDMENT.
” AN OPEN INVITATION TO EXTREMISTS AND IT IS AN EMBARRASSMENT TO ALL THAT AMERICA STANDS FOR”
Sue that would be the cops and thank you for recognizing that those officers are extremists and embarrassment to all America stands for.
Not sure what POTUS calls for peace has to do with the PD actions or the police departments lack of integrity.
THE EXTREMISTS ARE THE IMPORTS NOT FROM THE AREA WHO COME IN TO LOOT AND FIRE UP TEMPERS…THE PRESIDENT CALLED FOR PEACE AND SO DID REV. AL…PEOPLE NEED TO LISTEN…NOW THE NATIONAL GUARD IS COMING IN…EXPECTED INDEED!
Where is Captain Johnson?
According to this guy…detaining him??? WTH!
I would wait on that one. With all the chaos going on, he may have been trying to figure out what the frack was going on. Is plausible.
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Interesting. I never thought of the FIrst Amendment as something disgusting.
I AM REFERRING TO THE ACTIONS OF TEMPERS FLARING….NOT THE FIRST AMENDMENT. I ALSO BELIEVE IN WAITING FOR THE OUTCOME OF DOJ INVESTIGATIONS…THAT IS THE MATURE ACTION TO TAKE….PERIOD!
who is everyone Sue? and what exactly is disgusting?
Question: What time was NYT story on autopsy released? Could this police riot be a preemptive strike?
The replies he got are worth reading.
We need to now pay attention to the autopsy report – yet none of the media is reporting it. WHY?
Because they’re too busy reporting on the spectacle in Ferguson – trying to portray the protesters as agitators, and the autospy report DOES NOT PUT KILLER COP WILSON in a good light, and pretty much confirms the eyewitness accounts.
they will get to the autopsy report HF2. and I don’t think could get away with will portraying the protestors as agitators. Not when the media were threatened with getting shot, teargassed and maced.
The autopsy report is far more important to the ongoing investigation than any report of media getting teargassed. This can easily become a distraction and really shouldn’t be about the media.
I think both are important and I am confident that they will be all over the autopsy report tomorrow. Tonight was a critical turning point and I am thankful it was reported.
I hope you are right about the autopsy report. But I suspect the media is holding off reporting until they can find a way to smear the medical examiner, discredit the report, and obtain a fresh set of talking points from their sponsors at Koch, ALEC, NRA, KKK, etc….
New post.
http://theobamadiary.com/2014/08/17/protect-and-serve-thats-not-what-the-world-is-seeing/
Since the PD isn’t firing tear gas, MSNBC has resumed Lockup… F@$# MSNBC
Michael Eric Dyson needs to STFU! Once again Barack the Magic Negro needs to give a speech and the racists will stop being racists. Right – like before! So sick of these Ivory Tower sitters who do nothing but flap their lips.