Early Bird Chat

On This Day: President Barack Obama and Commerce Secretary Gary Locke look out a window at Mount St. Helens and Mount Rainier during a flight aboard Air Force One from Los Angeles, Calif., to Seattle, Wash., Aug. 17, 2010 (Photo by Pete Souza)


Morning everyone, Happy Sunday.

88 Responses to “Early Bird Chat”

  1. 1 nospin
    August 17, 2014 at 7:30 am

    GM Chiparoo

    • August 17, 2014 at 7:35 am

      Goooooooood morning NoSpin!!!

      • 3 nospin
        August 17, 2014 at 7:40 am

        you know it is sad when my first act of the day is to read TOD.

        • August 17, 2014 at 7:45 am

          🙂 A very wise first act, Nospin!

          I had to go out last night and missed most of the news, almost afraid to check. Will the madness ever end?

          • 5 nospin
            August 17, 2014 at 8:04 am

            “Will the madness ever end?”

            I am feeling hopeful Chips.

            Although our nation is going through the storm right now, I am glad that this issue is out in the open, and spotlighted because it provoked a national and global conversation on race relations. Unfortunately the US is not the only country going through this and hopefully seeing this ugliness will cause more people to reflect on their own actions and make better choices on the kind of person they want to be. Judge people for who they are, their actions and not the color of their skin and some stereotype because of a need to feel better than. Recognize you don’t even have to like, agree with or speak to a person but you should respect them.

            What I think is clear to anyone who wants to see — AAs have no desire to subject anyone to the degradation they have experienced. Most are not interested in looking back. In the case of Ferguson and those like it, justice should be served and not denied in order for us to move forward as a nation. It all starts with acknowledging there is a problem and working in good faith to address and fix it.

            • August 17, 2014 at 8:14 am

              “I am glad that this issue is out in the open, and spotlighted because it provoked a national and global conversation on race relations”

              That’s the one bright spot for me too Nospin, although whether it will lead anywhere I don’t know, the lies being spewed about what happened Michael Brown are all designed to make it look like he got what he deserved, so that there’s no need for a discussion at all.

    • August 17, 2014 at 7:40 am

      GM, nospin.

      Woke up early to see what happened in #Ferguson after curfew, and of course TODville informed me.

      Thanks to all.

      Meta has discovered an excellent tweeter, one I hope can help turn AZ from red to blue.

      A sample of his tweets:

      Truth that no one dares speak:

      Meta said, and I wholeheartedly agree:
      If you lived through the 60s, THIS will ring TRUE:

  2. 9 nospin
    August 17, 2014 at 7:40 am

    • 10 anniebella
      August 17, 2014 at 9:43 am

      nospin, I remember all about the people who got mad cause a football coach were fired. In Ferguson a 18 year old man was shot down like a animal. And i don’t blame the people I would be dam tired of it too, as a American i am tired of it, specially a black American..

  3. 11 nospin
    August 17, 2014 at 7:48 am

    Reposting NW’s tweet

  4. August 17, 2014 at 7:49 am

    Here’s a couple more tweets from Meta’s discovery:

    One way the MSM could improve their reporting is to add three words… “in broad daylight” to their reporting Ferguson when they refer to #MichaelBrown as “an unarmed teen shot and killed by police.” People busy with their daily lives probably have no idea this shooting happened at high noon, not in the shadowy night when visibility is poor and mistakes do happen.

    And HF2 is right, the national media broadcasts the lies of the #Ferguson PD as if they were the truth — and they have lied every.single.day.

    Why does the #Ferguson police chief think that suggesting that #MichaelBrown shoplifted could justify his being shot by a police officer in broad daylight?

  5. 15 nospin
    August 17, 2014 at 7:51 am

  6. August 17, 2014 at 8:02 am

    Morning Chipsticks…TODers.

  7. 18 jackiegrumbacher
    August 17, 2014 at 8:09 am

    Good morning. Trying to find a good source of information on what went on in Ferguson last night. Saw the Black Panthers protecting the police and was very proud of them. The good people of Ferguson are trying to keep focused on what’s important–arresting a murderer and getting justice for Mike Brown.

    • 19 nospin
      August 17, 2014 at 8:11 am

      ” The good people of Ferguson are trying to keep focused on what’s important–arresting a murderer and getting justice for Mike Brown.”


  8. August 17, 2014 at 8:13 am

    I heard one report on the radio yesterday on this, but had a heck of a time finding a news article on this via Google.

    MSM only have eyes for #Ferguson, and laying blame at those residents instead of informing the public of the cold-blooded murder that occurred in broad daylight.

    From last Tuesday’s article (local San Antonio news):
    “The number of unaccompanied children has been cut nearly in half, from 10,628 in June to 5,508 in July, and the number of adults with children has fallen even more sharply, from 16,330 in June to 7410 in July. Officials say similar decreases have been seen in the first week of August.

    The shelter for unaccompanied children at Lackland Air Force Base, which was packed with more than a thousand kids at the height of the immigration wave two month ago, formally closed on Monday, due to the low numbers of children entering the country today.”

    • 21 jackiegrumbacher
      August 17, 2014 at 8:17 am

      Well, Arapaho, I only hope those thousand children are in good health and safe.

      • 22 vcprezofan2
        August 17, 2014 at 8:46 am

        Morning, JackieG! Have you checked your DMs on twitter recently? I like to keep my word and I promised to try to answer your question from days ago so I DM’d you, but haven’t heard back.

        • 23 jackiegrumbacher
          August 17, 2014 at 9:17 am

          Thank you, thank you, thank you, VC. Your instructions are very clear. It’s going to take a lot of practice for me to get it right. I DM’d you the part that is tricky for me. Sorry, I forget to check messages in the last several days. Got distracted.

  9. 25 Roberta in MN
    August 17, 2014 at 8:14 am

    Goood Morning all you early birds. Been lurking lately & digesting the shut in MO. I really am saddened & disgusted with the Police & the Gov. They all wet their virtual pants over this & handled it worse than the worst crime show on TV.
    Congrats on 1st up NoSpin.

    • 26 nospin
      August 17, 2014 at 8:21 am

      thanks Roberta and good Sunday morning to you.

    • 27 jackiegrumbacher
      August 17, 2014 at 9:18 am

      Oh, Robert, the image of all of them wetting their pants is priceless. It is the police who behaved like out of control toddlers with new and expensive toys. Your image is now burned in my mind.

  10. 28 Vicki
    August 17, 2014 at 8:21 am

    Good morning, Chips, nospin ,arapaho, jackieg, Roberta, swbluega, TOD still asleep.
    Thanks to one and all for a place to show up on Sunday morning and find people who are concerned about the exact same things I am.

    Lots to catch up on. BBL

  11. 30 Anjo
    August 17, 2014 at 8:23 am

    Until there are State and local politicians who do right and demand that their citizens do the same there will be more Fergusons, white folks seem to be getting it, there were some protesting, but until the majority, and whites are still the majority, acknowledge there is a problem that needs fixing and actually do fix it and until the downtrodden get up and vote vote vote every time in every election, Ferguson is a situation coming to a community near you and not just the black and poor community

    Thanks to all the people who come to this site to educate us, many sites, tv and other media give a story and you wonder at the end ‘is that it?’ we need to get back to the days when a story had a beginning, body and end, journalism is dying, thanks TOD for keeping it alive

    • 31 jackiegrumbacher
      August 17, 2014 at 9:22 am

      Anjo, the key is not only voting in every election, but working to get candidates that are responsive to the needs of the people. Voting is a positive act that can make a huge difference, but we’ve got to have worthy people to vote for and that doesn’t always happen. Communities have to cultivate good leaders who then step forward to run for office. Maybe they won’t win the first time–PBO lost a few early elections–but they persevere, they build trust, they get elected and structural change begins to happen.

  12. August 17, 2014 at 8:25 am

    I appreciate those of you who have shared tweets from those on site in Ferguson so that we don’t have to depend on the skewed accounts of the MSM. I also appreciate those who are able to clarify the legalities of what is or may be going with the investigation.

    For the most part, the citizens of Ferguson are trying to keep their protest peaceful despite their frustrations. The FPD are deliberately and strategically trying to push the buttons of the few who might push back through violence and destruction. And of course, this is the drama that the MSM are hanging around for. They have no desire to put things in prospective or even to point blame where it belongs. They have a script and are only looking for incidents that fit the script. Sadly, the murder of Michael Brown does not seem to be a part of that script.

    So thanks again TOD for keeping us focused on the real issue(s) and reigning us in when we let our emotions make us unreasonable in our expectations.

  13. 33 nospin
    August 17, 2014 at 8:25 am

    Newark activists to march in Ferguson on this Wednesday.

    A group of Newark activists plan to march on Wednesday in honor of an unarmed teenager who was killed last week by a police officer in Ferguson, Mo.

    The People’s Organization For Progress is organizing the march to call for greater accountability in police departments around the country.

    “With regard to the killing of Michael Brown, we demand a federal takeover of the Ferguson, Mo. police department,” said chairman Lawrence Hamm said in a statement.

    The march will begin at 5 p.m. near the Essex County Courthouse at the intersection of Springfield Avenue and West Market Street. Protesters plan to walk between the courthouse and the intersection of Market and Broad Streets, the statement said.


  14. 37 vcprezofan2
    August 17, 2014 at 8:28 am

    ♫♫Hel-lllllo, dahlings! Good day, dah-ling. It’s so nice to have y’all back where you belong.♫
    You looking swell, dah-lings. Hope you stay well dah-lings.
    Hope you keep growing, you keep going thru-out this Sun-daaay!♫

    Whatever! I see you early birds have started off on the right foot {right, Nospin?}. Have to go and check through the last post to see what happened after I retired.


    • 38 nospin
      August 17, 2014 at 8:33 am

      it is addictive and it is all Chips and her blog tyrants fault.

      I shudder to think about withdrawal symptoms when this place closes… wait.. take that back. Don’t even want to think about it.

      • 39 vcprezofan2
        August 17, 2014 at 8:45 am

        Don’t (think about it)! I make it a policy not to look too far ahead in instances where I anticipate an ending that I suspect won’t be ideal and one which I cannot do much to change. If you think about it clinically, people who worry about that, and PBO leaving, from now, are bringing the ‘pain’ forward two whole years, dampening their JOY IN THE NOW!!! I figure there’s no sense anticipating pain if I don’t have to. I’ll deal with it when it comes, day by day.

        Meantime, life, with all its current unrest, is still good because PBHO is in the WH, Chips Chica, NerdyW and the Gang keep the TOD gates open, and we all are *here*!!!!!!!

        Goooooood MoooOooorrrnNing, NoSpin!!!!! 🙂 🙂

    • August 17, 2014 at 8:43 am

      🙂 ♫♫ Mooooooorning VeeeeeeCeeeeee!!!! ♫♫

      • 43 vcprezofan2
        August 17, 2014 at 8:51 am

        Wooowee! Sounds like a dance tune. I mentally grabbed your hand, twirled you around and spun you out, all while grinning and going, ♫♫ Mooooooorning CeeeeeeCeeeeee!!!! ♫♫

        [Do bear in mind I cannot dance – at least not to the point of twirling anyone (or being twirled) RHYTHMICALLY to music.] 😉 😉 😉

        • August 17, 2014 at 9:12 am

          😆 Us dancing in that manner would one heckuva sight VC – a highly frightening one!!

          • 45 vcprezofan2
            August 17, 2014 at 9:15 am

            ‘a highly frightening one!!’

            Totally in accord with you! -With extremely high potential for injury!!

            WARNING >> Better up your insurance policy, in case virtual musings can even remotely lead to reality.

    • 46 jackiegrumbacher
      August 17, 2014 at 9:28 am

      Well good morning, Dolly. You’re looking swell, dah-ling, I can tell dahling…” I saw Carol Channing do Dolly on stage when she was well advanced in age and spent the whole night worried she was going to keel over.

      • 47 vcprezofan2
        August 17, 2014 at 9:42 am

        You know, I believe I saw a snippet of that on YouTube once. Was that the evening she happily pranced around high stepping with a younger man or two?

        Not sure if it was Channing, but as soon as I read your comment a former dancer doing what I described sprang to mind. Mind you, in the piece I saw she was doing well, but I did hold my breath a couple of times. 😀

        • 48 jackiegrumbacher
          August 17, 2014 at 10:06 am

          VC, this was at the Kennedy Center and we were in the second row where I could see her sweat and hear her puffing. Her makeup was so thick I thought she would crack it when she smiled. The young men who danced with her were also making sure she didn’t fall.

          • 49 vcprezofan2
            August 17, 2014 at 10:09 am

            So, we may be talking about the same person, in which case I’m happy I got the more distanced view. 😉

  15. 50 Don
    August 17, 2014 at 8:36 am

    This is the chaos that black men have to endure somewhat on a daily basis, as a black man I understand this madness. I am familiar with madness like this; I am comfortable with this madness. The powers that be put poor Captain Ron Johnson out in front of this madness and gave him no power what so ever. If Captain Johnson didn’t have on that uniform you would have gotten gassed just like the other black citizens of Ferguson. Mike Brown’s autopsy report hasn’t been released yet; Officer Darren Wilson may or may not even be in the country, I have yet to see one photograph of Officer Wilson and I guess that’s normal, and the Chief of Police and the Prosecutor are in no rush to find out what really happened. And for the average black man walking the streets of America, all of this is normal, this is business as usual. Here it is the middle of 2014 and black men are still being shot down like mad dogs in broad day light in the middle of the street in any town USA, I’ve seen this movie before. I don’t want anyone to think that I’ve given up hope, I haven’t, I’m still holding out for hope. But at this moment I’m looking at my reality.

    • August 17, 2014 at 9:26 am

      “black men are still being shot down like mad dogs in broad day light in the middle of the street in any town USA”

      Wish the MSM would quote you instead of the lying liars known as FergusonPD.

      See upthread for @cdashiell tweets, who should also be quoted.

      I see such leadership from Capt. Ron Johnson — but it’s infuriating that he’s been placed in his current position — the “face” of authority but with no power. And the person with real power (@GovJayBrown) has zero strategy on what to do next. The Governor should set expectations on how the state will proceed this week.

      The County prosecutor will obstruct any attempt to seek justice from FergusonPD — I mentioned yesterday that I saw on the Internet that the County prosecutor’s father was a cop killed by a Black man in the line of duty — I have no idea whether this is true or not, but his actions speak for themselves.

  16. 52 nospin
    August 17, 2014 at 8:40 am

    Massachusetts man dies after raising $100,000 in the ALS challenge

    A 27-year-old Massachusetts man died in a diving accident on Nantucket Island, hours after he raised $100,000 for a Lou Gehrig’s disease charity in honor of his friend who inspired the ice-bucket challenge sensation.

  17. 53 nospin
    August 17, 2014 at 8:46 am

    Read through my Facebook threads over the past few days and the good news is that regardless of age, all are committed to turn out the vote this year. What I found exciting was seeing the comments from the seniors in high school and college kids who were actively engaging peers regarding turning out the vote.

    They are not playing.

  18. August 17, 2014 at 8:51 am

    I too am frustrated by the slow process of obtaining justice for Michael Brown, so I can imagine the frustration of the Ferguson citizens, and especially Michael Brown’s family, is exponentially so. Knowing the bias and partiality, the bigotry, the scheming and deviousness of the FPD and the local officials, I’m wondering what realistic options may be available to expedite the process. Opinions have included special prosecutor, and federal takeover of law enforcement. But what can realistically be done without jeopardizing the case? I wouldn’t want to see justice for Michael Brown being denied due to technicalities.

  19. 55 Nerdy Wonka
    August 17, 2014 at 8:55 am

    1. MOOoooorning, Chiparoo and TOD.

    2. I see President Obama’s face so I’ll share this news: His Between Two Ferns episode won an Emmy at the Creative Arts Emmy Awards. Wooohoooooo!

    Outstanding Short-Format Live-Action Entertainment Program: “Between Two Ferns with Barack Obama”

    3. Joe Morton of Scandal also won an Emmy. YES! His acting was top-notch and a delight to watch.


  20. 58 nospin
    August 17, 2014 at 8:55 am

    not political

    Mental exam sought for Kenya child abuse suspect

    OKLAHOMA CITY – Federal prosecutors are asking a judge to order a mental examination for a 19-year-old Oklahoma man accused and admitted to sexually abusing children while volunteering at an orphanage in Kenya.

    U.S. Attorney Sanford Coats filed a request this week seeking a mental evaluation for Matthew Durham, who has been indicted on three felony counts that accuse him of traveling from Oklahoma City to Kenya to sexually abuse as many as ten children between the ages of 4 and 10 while volunteering at Upendo Children’s Home in Nairobi from April to June 2014.

    Prosecutors allege that Durham admitted abusing the children, but defense attorneys have challenged the credibility of their client’s statement, saying he was coerced by an inner demon. Durham confessed to the crimes in writing and on video and admitted to “a life-long struggle of desires to touch children.”



    • 59 Don
      August 17, 2014 at 9:03 am

      Oh well then, lets get that poor misunderstood white teenager some help, maybe he can be saved.

      • 60 Don
        August 17, 2014 at 9:08 am

        This is the shit I’m talking about, this white teenage can do the most vile shit known to man and still he’s given the oppurtunity to receive help. This motherfucker has just been given an alib and a defense, all certified by a federal prosecutor.

    • 61 amk for obama
      August 17, 2014 at 9:13 am

      ah, the white man’s eternal defence.

  21. 62 Don
    August 17, 2014 at 8:59 am

    There is nothing neither Gov. Nixon nor Captain Ron Johnson can say to end this abomination in Ferguson, the reality of what’s taking place in Ferguson speaks to that. The Chief of Police of Ferguson is in control and apparently he has the power to tell Gov. Nixon what to do and he also has the power to rebuff the Department of Justice. We have the entire tweeter universe on the ground in Ferguson tweeting out shit like its WWI and there’re behind enemy lines.

  22. 63 amk for obama
    August 17, 2014 at 9:08 am

  23. 64 Don
    August 17, 2014 at 9:10 am

    So when do we start holding hands and singing we shall overcome?

  24. 67 amk for obama
    August 17, 2014 at 9:10 am

  25. 68 africa
    August 17, 2014 at 9:12 am

    Happy Sunday TODers

    Heya Chips!!

  26. 71 desertflower
    August 17, 2014 at 9:27 am

    Morning everyone…so, looks like it wasn’t good last night in Ferguson…also looks to me like there are instigators in the crowd…


    One shot, seven arrested in clashes after curfew in Ferguson, Missouri

    And PS…Gov Nixon appreciates the parallel investigation that the DOJ is doing. ok.

  27. August 17, 2014 at 9:29 am

    Good morning Chips & CO. Wishing you all a happy Sunday.

  28. August 17, 2014 at 9:29 am

    Not sure when this airs in Eastern, Central and Mountain time zones (it’s broadcast at 8 am Pacific, an hour and a half from now)…

  29. 74 hopefruit2
    August 17, 2014 at 9:30 am

    G’morning Chips & TOD!!!

    • August 17, 2014 at 10:29 am

      It’s plausible that Gov Nixon didn’t know. Ferguson PD are not coordinating with other levels of power. They released the video despite the objections of DOJ and FBI. They have an agenda.

      • 76 hopefruit2
        August 17, 2014 at 10:31 am

        If the DOJ knew about the video to the point where they specifically discouraged its release, Nixon must have known. He’s just covering his arse right now.

  30. August 17, 2014 at 9:35 am

    Good Sunday morning, TODville. I hope everyone got some good rest last night after a grueling day.

    POTUS comes home today to take care of some business. This should end speculation from the MSM about the “mystery.” SMH.

    Hoping for some semblance of peaceful engagement in the streets.

  31. 78 JER
    August 17, 2014 at 9:40 am

    Good morning BFF and TOD.


    …Meanwhile, in Edgartown, there were antics afoot at the lighthouse, where, according to Times correspondent Rich Saltzberg, well-known Island artists Ken Vincent and Traeger di Pietro collaborated on a portrait of President and Michelle Obama. During the entire process, film and video specialist Chris Mara projected the work in progress onto the lighthouse, to the cheers of the assembled. …
    More here: http://www.mvtimes.com/2014/08/17/obama-vacation-beat-saturday-august-17/

  32. 82 desertflower
    August 17, 2014 at 9:48 am


    No wonder why those that hate want to keep the status quo and continue to drive those UN conspiracy theories.

    It is, after all, Republicans who are disenfranchising people of color’s right to vote, starving poor communities of education funding, demonizing immigrants, Hispanics, and African Americans, and their legislative arm the American Legislative Exchange Council (ALEC) is responsible for laws increasing racial disparity in sentencing and capital punishment of African Americans. It is true President Obama, the Department of Justice, Democrats in Congress and state houses are fighting to rein in the racists, but they have been unsuccessful in large part due to the conservative Supreme Court and Republican obstructionism because their base of support is inherently older, whiter, and racially-motivated; likely why they yearn to “take America back” to the nation’s racist founding.

    It is a sad, sad, commentary indeed that a nation founded on racism over 238 years ago, fought a bloody Civil War, suffered through a bloody Civil Rights movement, and elected an African American man as President is being investigated by an international watchdog for its predilection to racism and civil and human rights violations against people of color. Of course, the mainstream media will never report that America’s racism is under investigation, or that there is even overwhelming racial disparity in this country. However, the American people are well-aware that racism is rampant, and instead of admitting there is a problem primarily stemming from white supremacists in the conservative movement, they refuse to openly acknowledge the problem. And why should they? When they are white, it is easier to ignore the simple fact that being African American or Latino in America means being a second-class citizen at the mercy of white supremacists in the conservative movement and law enforcement seeking out the next unarmed African American to gun down in cold blood. Fortunately, the United Nations, and the entire world, is not ignoring racist America any longer and they are watching and speaking out.

  33. 83 vcprezofan2
    August 17, 2014 at 9:58 am

    Old news which I hadn’t seen it before, and it’s light reading about the process of choosing a vacation residence for the First Family


    “We first heard about it when a friend of ours said, ‘I hear the Obamas are staying on your road this summer,’ a few weeks ago, before we’d heard anything about it,” Mr. Kellman said. “Then the real estate guy, Tom Wallace, called us. He explained that Obama would be here and that they were coming to stay nearby, and that they appreciated our help, since they wanted to keep a communications vehicle — no one will be in it — at our house, powered with electricity from our garage. Wallace came by, he looked around, took some pictures looking for the best spot for the vehicle. I thought that there are too many trees around here, but Wallace said the vehicle has an antenna that can go up 150 feet, above the treeline.”

    A visit by a Times reporter to 72 Gosnold’s Way brought Ms. Hubschman to the door. “I have no idea what you’re talking about,” she said, smiling. “I’ve heard nothing about that.”

    Real estate agent Tom Wallace of Wallace & Co. in Edgartown has handled housing arrangements for the Obamas during previous Island visits.


  34. 85 hopefruit2
    August 17, 2014 at 10:03 am

    Seven Days since an unarmed teen was gunned down in cold blood and left on the streets to bleed to death.

    And so far we still DO NOT have:

    -a police incident report
    -an autopsy report
    – any indication of # of bullet wounds sustained
    – any indication of killer cop’s whereabouts
    – any additional info about the Ferguson PD or killer cop’s record over the last 6 yrs

    But we do have:
    – video/pics unrelated to the shooting, but played on 24hr loop on ALL cable news networks to portray dead teen as a thug
    – endless punditry about President Obama not doing enough for Blacks
    – endless media reporting of “riots” and “looting” and “unrest” without contextualizing

    ALL these distractions that are not related to the shooting incident or the investigation – are being initiated, maintained and amplified by the media. Any questions?

  35. 87 desertflower
    August 17, 2014 at 10:09 am



    When Lyndon Johnson signed the Voting Rights Act into law 49 years ago this month, he proclaimed it “a triumph for freedom as huge as any victory that has ever been won on any battlefield.” It’s arguable that Johnson was actually understating the law’s significance. The Voting Rights Act enfranchised millions of Americans almost immediately. The voting registration rate for blacks in Mississippi was 6.7 percent in 1964; by 1968, it was 59.4 percent. Over time, the increase in black voters enabled the elections of thousands of black politicians. Without the Voting Rights Act (VRA), the Congressional Black Caucus would be a fraction of its current size. Without the Voting Rights Act, Barack Obama wouldn’t be in the White House.

    Wrap your head around that for a little while, then read the entire excellent article.

  36. 88 99ts
    August 17, 2014 at 10:16 am

    gm everyone – thinking of you all and the people of Ferguson and the family of Mike Brown – not really anything else worth saying at the minute

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