Rise and Shine – And Chat On

 On This Day: President Barack Obama and First Lady Michelle Obama with Justice Sonia Sotomayor prior to a reception for the new Supreme Court Justice at the White House, on Aug. 12, 2009 (Photo by Pete Souza)


Morning again everyone, I’m still on my R&S break, so chat on. We’ll have updates later in the day.


101 Responses to “Rise and Shine – And Chat On”

  1. 1 desertflower
    August 12, 2014 at 9:49 am


  2. August 12, 2014 at 9:51 am

    Morning Chips and TOD. Congrats DF

  3. 6 99ts
    August 12, 2014 at 9:56 am

    gm everyone – may everyone find some peace during your summer vacations. Grandbabe visiting tomorrow which will counter the chilly weather down under 🙂

  4. August 12, 2014 at 9:58 am

    • 8 99ts
      August 12, 2014 at 10:05 am

      And that even sounds like the truth – compared to the utter nonsense put forth by the police in their so called news conference – just wow – and they wonder why people may be upset.

      Biggest cover up ever going on with this one.

      • August 12, 2014 at 10:10 am

        Evening 99ts. The police account of what happened sounded so utterly ridiculous – a young black man reaching in to the car to grab a policeman’s gun, for no apparent reason? Thereby all but guaranteeing his own death? Please.

        This account, which is chilling, makes so much more sense.

        • 10 99ts
          August 12, 2014 at 10:19 am

          I am still in disbelief after hearing what the police gave as the reason for the killing. Took them a good 24 hours to dream that one up.

          The account from the witness rings so very true – couple of kids wandering down the road & a policeman going into racist rant mode – it’s not only private citizens that should never have access to guns! No policeman should have that level of anger against people he is paid to protect.

        • 11 TrumpDog
          August 12, 2014 at 12:31 pm

          Because that’s easiest excuse for some to believe – that the victim was shot because victim was reaching for the cop’s gun.
          Remember, Zimmerman said that too.

    • August 12, 2014 at 10:10 am

      The police don’t even have the pretense of fully investigating this horrific event. I hope other witnesses come forward to corroborate Johnson’s account. This needs to be busted wide open.

      • 13 jacquelineoboomer
        August 12, 2014 at 11:03 am

        Even the remarks by the county police chief on MSNBC yesterday were unbelievably telling. First, the guy had no charisma to be a spokesperson for any department, much less the county police (one would think he’d have more skills to try to calm the community, while he had the chance), but he also sounded oddly bored with the whole thing. Couldn’t find the exact words he wanted to use, so his responses to questions all sounded hokey to me (I can’t answer that, we’re investigating everything, but here’s exactly what happened – that kind of malarkey). Believe it was Rev. Al who was interviewing him and the county executive sitting next to him. The county exec started his remarks with condolences to the family. The county police chief ended his remarks with an implied “oh by the way now that the county exec said it, I guess I’d better add” we send condolences to the family. Both gentlemen – the white county police chief and the black county executive – are clearly worried about liability for the area they represent, but staying off camera might have been a better decision.

        • August 12, 2014 at 11:32 am

          I think that is the event I saw but missed the beginning.

          This is all so out of control now. Just unbelievable how they’re handling the communication.

    • 16 GGail
      August 12, 2014 at 11:38 am

      Yes, this is the same account I heard this young say on another television interview the day before the “riot” broke out.

      Thanks Chips for posting this.

      And regarding my sad tale of no longer receiving TOD in my inbox…I’m at work now and I scrolled down the sidebar and clicked on Subscriptions. I hope this works!

      I’m an Original TODer – where’s the love????@!!!!!

  5. August 12, 2014 at 10:04 am

    Good morning, everyone. Cloudy, humid, warm already, but we are meant to have a break from the unusual heat of this summer. We shall see. If this is a taste of what lies ahead, we are in real trouble. I pray as a species, we awaken soon. We need to get off fossil fuels. Fast.

    August 12, 2014 at 10:10 am


    • 20 Linda
      August 12, 2014 at 10:31 am

      All I know is that Chris Kyle is the seal that Jessie Ventura sued for defamation and won.

      It had something to do with Kyle’s book.

        August 12, 2014 at 10:57 am


        • 22 SUE DUVALL SMITH
          August 12, 2014 at 11:16 am


  7. 23 4morefor44
    August 12, 2014 at 10:10 am

    thank god for justice sotomayor!

  8. 25 Vicki
    August 12, 2014 at 10:11 am

    Good morning TOD.
    Robin Williams, 63 years old, took his own life. The country mourns the loss of a greatly talented and loved man.
    Michael Brown, 18 years old, was executed by a police officer in Ferguson Missouri. Missouri responded to that event with tanks and tear gas.

    Do we know the murderers name yet?

    The Galleria Mall in St. Louis,(which I visited with my daughter and granddaughter in June) was closed down because there were too many black kids there on Sunday night. That mall is 5 minutes away from where my family lives.

    Missouri seems to be vying for title as state that tries out Police State Overwhelming Force tactics to address domestic issues. As you can imagine it is killing me that my daughter raised in a multicultural inclusive society is stuck in a place that is everything I fear and dislike and that is damaging her kids in ways they will not easily overcome.

    • 26 Judith Fardig
      August 12, 2014 at 11:01 am

      Vicki, that ‘s what I keep coming back to: two deaths, both tragic, but only one person chose to die. In a healthy world, neither would have died. Glad we have TOD for support and comfort.

  9. 27 vcprezofan2
    August 12, 2014 at 10:14 am

    Moving right along, it seems.

  10. August 12, 2014 at 10:16 am

    Eyewitness to Michael Brown shooting recounts his friend’s death

    08/12/14 12:33 AM—Updated 08/12/14 09:37 AM
    By Trymaine Lee

    FERGUSON, Missouri — The last moments of Michael Brown’s life were filled with shock, fear and terror, says a witness who stood just feet away as a police officer shot and killed the unarmed teen.

    “I saw the barrel of the gun pointed at my friend,” said Dorian Johnson, 22. “Then I saw the fire come out of the barrel.”

    Johnson, in an exclusive interview with msnbc, said what began as an order by a police officer to ‘get the f— onto the sidewalk’ quickly escalated into a physical altercation and then, gunfire.

    The Last Word with Lawrence O’Donnell, 8/11/14, 10:33 PM ET

    “I could see so vividly what was going on because I was so close,” said Johnson, who said he was within arm’s reach of both Brown and the officer when the first of several shots was fired at the teen. Johnson says he feared for his life as he watched the officer squeezing off shot after shot


  11. August 12, 2014 at 10:19 am

    JO’B posted this tweet at the tailend of the overnight thread:

    This morning, this appears prominently on the @latimes home page (not at the very top, but close — see scroll bar to the right in the photo):

    PS – Where I live it’s not always that easy to pick up a print newspaper — was at the local (highend) Goodwill last month, a lady was looking for a newspaper, and clerk directed her to a supermarket 2 miles away — despite the fact the shopping center we were in has a Fresh ‘n Easy (100% self-serve supermarket) and a Starbucks.

    • 31 vcprezofan2
      August 12, 2014 at 10:37 am

      Weirdo that I am, I don’t like that Matt Pearce tweet. Maybe I’m too picky.

      • August 12, 2014 at 10:47 am

        Good pushback, vc.

        A good reminder to those who chose journalism as a career, but Pearce’s tweet is understandable because he no doubt fears he may be out of a job if newspaper fold (unlike @chucktodd, who deserves to be out of a job he is unqualified for).

        In other news, a local gazillionaire is now publisher of @latimes. Have no idea what it means for @latimes, but we’re all breathing a sigh of relief here that’s its not a Koch (for now, I guess).

        • 33 vcprezofan2
          August 12, 2014 at 10:55 am

          I hear you, but I still think Pearce’s fears should not cause him to be cavalier about the situation. IMO serious issues demand a serious approach from a professional, in spite of his personal concerns. (Don’t mind me, Arapaho, unbeknown to me before I read his tweet, it seems I’m in a mood.) 😉

      • August 12, 2014 at 10:56 am

        I’m with you VC, way too glib for this situation.

        • 35 vcprezofan2
          August 12, 2014 at 11:12 am

          Sigh, CC. The entire scenario all seems so … so … sensitive, I guess. I don’t know, but almost everything I’ve read about *this* shooting touches a cord. I can’t get rid of the thought that no one sane would treat an animal the way this young man was treated. To my mind nothing Michael said or did can justify his end!

      • 36 jacquelineoboomer
        August 12, 2014 at 11:21 am

        I don’t think you’re picky at all. He was getting blowback last night, and yours is your typical well done and well deserved! Realize these print media types are worried about their jobs because most people get their news in a different way, now, but he should be tweeting the owners of the news corp he works for to tell them to get better business models – and leave the rest of us alone about it. I, too, thought it was weird that he should be right in the middle of such a horrendous story, and to have taken the time to tweet something idiotic like that.

        • 37 vcprezofan2
          August 12, 2014 at 11:30 am

          Appreciate your response, JO’B. My meter doesn’t always work effectively so it helps to get feedback from you guys when I wonder if I’m in danger of being too *something*. Probably hard to believe 😉 , but often when I feel I’m being too *something* I generally shut up.

    • 40 jacquelineoboomer
      August 12, 2014 at 11:08 am

      Thanks for posting that Arapaho!

    • 41 0388jojothecat
      August 12, 2014 at 11:31 am

      Starbucks usually carry the L.A. Times and WSJ.

  12. 42 donna dem 4 obama
    August 12, 2014 at 10:23 am

  13. 51 donna dem 4 obama
    August 12, 2014 at 10:24 am

  14. August 12, 2014 at 10:30 am

    Jovie, take care. I hope a break from the blog will make a difference. I hope you will come back soon. ❤

  15. August 12, 2014 at 10:33 am

    There must be justice for that young man and his family.

  16. 54 Nerdy Wonka
    August 12, 2014 at 10:37 am

  17. 56 Linda
    August 12, 2014 at 10:39 am

    MSNBC is reporting on their own gossip as gossip regarding Hillary and PBO being at the same event tonight.

    They are like teenagers……

    • 57 pkayden
      August 12, 2014 at 12:45 pm

      For my sanity, I limit my viewing of MSNBC to Rev Al, Rachel and Lawrence (for the most part). It seems as if the morning shows are particularly horrible.

  18. 58 JER
    August 12, 2014 at 10:51 am

  19. 59 Nerdy Wonka
    August 12, 2014 at 11:01 am

  20. August 12, 2014 at 11:01 am

    For @mtMarilyn:

  21. 63 dotster3
    August 12, 2014 at 11:05 am

  22. August 12, 2014 at 11:06 am

  23. 67 Nerdy Wonka
    August 12, 2014 at 11:10 am

    From Robin Williams daughter.

  24. 68 donna dem 4 obama
    August 12, 2014 at 11:10 am

  25. 69 donna dem 4 obama
    August 12, 2014 at 11:13 am

  26. 71 amk for obama
    August 12, 2014 at 11:15 am

    so, there.

  27. 72 amk for obama
    August 12, 2014 at 11:17 am

    ‘outrage’ from corporate media.

  28. 73 amk for obama
    August 12, 2014 at 11:17 am

  29. August 12, 2014 at 11:31 am


  30. 82 57andfemale
    August 12, 2014 at 11:45 am

  31. 83 vcprezofan2
    August 12, 2014 at 11:49 am

  32. 84 vcprezofan2
    August 12, 2014 at 12:02 pm

    • 85 vcprezofan2
      August 12, 2014 at 12:03 pm

    • 86 Vicki
      August 12, 2014 at 12:17 pm

      Can anybody enlighten me as to why SOS Kerry is so often seen wearing the same orange tie?

      • 87 vcprezofan2
        August 12, 2014 at 12:21 pm

        I never noticed, but maybe he considers it his ‘lucky charm’? Just kidding. Maybe it might be as simple as it being the only tie he had handy. Don’t forget he keeps zipping from one place to the next (and in an effort to harass the min here on site) he doesn’t have the lady wife around to pack for him, or time to worry about small, inconsequential items like ties. 😉 😉

  33. August 12, 2014 at 12:05 pm

  34. 97 japa21
    August 12, 2014 at 12:26 pm

    In times like these, it is almost too easy to focus on all the horrible things happening around us, locally, nationally and internationally. Yet, I refuse to let that dominate my approach to life. There are always moments of goodness, if we choose to acknowledge them. Doing so does not mean ignoring the bad, or resolving to do something about the bad, even when we know that nothing can be done immediately and some changes will take longer than others.

    But if we do not acknowledge the good, no matter how trivial it may seem at times, we give up hope for the future. And when we give up hope, the only change that will occur is negative change.

    There are people that thrive in taking away people’s hopes and dreams. Then there are those that do their best to encourage hopes and dreams. It is almost too simplistic to say that, in this country, those people fall into two camps, the GOP and the Dems, yet, although it is not a perfect match, it is generally exactly that.

    There are those who demand perfection and when they see anything less than that, they want you to despair. The emoprogs fall into that group.

    But for most of us, our lives are filled with ups and downs. When there is the up, I refuse to naively assume all my life will be up. But at the same time, when my life is on the down turn I refuse to submit to the feeling it will never get better. Once we as individuals or a nation fall into that type of thinking, we are doomed.

    The people who refuse to vote because they see no difference between the parties, or feel it doesn’t matter if they do or not, as it will change nothing, are making the reality they are afraid of come into being.

    Admidst all the doom and gloom I set myself to think positive, knowing that positive thinking by itself won’t change things, but knowing that without positive thinking nothing will change.

    It is my hope that the greatest legacy to come out of the Presidency of Barack Hussein Obama is the belief as a country, that we can change, that the naysayers will not prevent progress from happening, that believing we can do something will make the actual accomplishment easier and more likely. It is that the philosophy of “Yes, we can” as a nation will replace the philosophies of “No, we can’t” and “It isn’t worth the cost”.

    • August 12, 2014 at 12:30 pm

      Very well stated, John. Hope Chips does a ‘Word from japa’ in a future thread.

      BTW – I live by this:

      “Admidst all the doom and gloom I set myself to think positive, knowing that positive thinking by itself won’t change things, but knowing that without positive thinking nothing will change.”

      Couldn’t imagine doing otherwise.

    • 100 Nena20409
      August 12, 2014 at 1:03 pm

      Indeed. It is what one brings to the world that makes a difference. The world will be as one makes it. LIVE we must.

      The decision is Ours alone……Happy, Sad or indifference.

    • 101 jacquelineoboomer
      August 12, 2014 at 1:05 pm

      I see you are the creator of those words to live by, mentioned by Bob – just beautiful.

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