…..If you’re anything like me, when you hear the words “wise insights about the Iraq war,” two names that immediately come to mind are Paul Wolfowitz and Scooter Libby. Fortunately the Hertog Institute has engaged them both to teach a course, “The War in Iraq: A Study in Decision-Making.” I will confess that when someone told me about this today, I assumed it was an Onion-style joke. As in, “The Work-Family Balance: Getting It Right,” co-taught by John Edwards and Eliot Spitzer. But it turns out to be real. Or “real.” In the cause of public knowledge, I am happy to offer royalty-free use of several items for the reading list. Like:
“The Fifty-First State?” from the year before the war. The Wolfowitz-Libby “study in decision-making” might consider why on Earth so many obvious implications of the war were blithely dismissed ahead of time, including by these two men. Or …
“Blind into Baghdad,” about the grotesque combination of arrogance, ignorance, and incompetence that characterized decision-making about the war. Or …
“Bush’s Lost Year,” about the sequence of advantages squandered, opportunities missed, and crucial wrong bets made in the months just after the 9/11 attacks. Students might find this one particularly interesting, since it begins with a long interview with their own Professor Wolfowitz. For the Cliff’s Notes version, see after the jump.
Somehow I am guessing that the professors might pass up my generous offer. So instead, here’s another “at first I thought this was a joke” candidate: a new essay by William Kristol and Frederick Kagan in Kristol’s Weekly Standard with advice about Iraq:
….While House and Senate investigators have said their probes have turned up evidence that the Benghazi attacks were coordinated and planned by some people working with al Qaeda affiliates, the U.S. intelligence community has not determined that abu Khatallah was himself connected to al Qaeda. Without such a connection, the U.S. president was not authorized to kill or capture him under the 2001 Authorization for the Use of Military Force against al Qaeda.
….Abu Khatallah was, however, indicted for his role in the Benghazi attack. The president, according to U.S. officials, nonetheless had the authority to send the Delta and FBI team because of the inherent authorities to pursue outlaws wanted by a U.S. court of law.
āKhatallah currently faces criminal charges on three counts, and we retain the option of adding additional charges in the coming days,ā said Attorney General Eric Holder in a statement Tuesday. āEven as we begin the process of putting Khatallah on trial and seeking his conviction before a jury, our investigation will remain ongoing as we work to identify and arrest any co-conspirators.ā…..
I have little faith in Richard Engel – he seems to want a war zone from which he can preach. “Police Officials” sounds like the proverbial “white house spokesperson” neither of whom are ever named.
Your response is so funny…to me, TS. I read the tweet a few minutes before you posted, thought ‘I don’t trust you, Engel’ and switched over for a peek at twitter. I come back and you had already stated my Engel position. š
I fear you are right. Engel will believe anybody who turns to him and says, “Oh, you’re Richard Engel?” The guy was war-itis. He believes he’s the story, and “war” is his life.
count me in on that 99ts. I don’t trust him either. He may not have started out that way but it seems that he got caught up in the has become the person banging the drums for war.
I am watching Chris Hayes and he showed HRC saying what we do in this country is go after people who attack the USA. She is incorrect, because Republican presidents do not do this….as GWB said he does not spend time thinking about those people until he trots them out during an election so that he can scare the public…
Although I had to mute him after five minutes, Chris Hayes actually has on a living, breathing, still-serving representative of the Department of Defense – Pentagon Press Secretary Rear Admiral John Kirby – to talk about AAK. Bravo. Of course, Chris is asking totally inappropriate and ill-advised political and legal questions of Adm. Kirby, which he is prohibited from answering … and more or less is trying to find out at exactly which “undisclosed location in U.S. custody” the captured terrorist is being held … like the idiotic dork he is.
But, finally, it’s not a Bush administration poser/guesser/has-been.
We’re on the same wavelength JoB – He was doing the far left – are we giving the man his rights! – and Fox News – after demanding death – political or actual – for those who “caused” Benghazi – will scream the same.
Thus said – he is also interviewing the only congresswoman who voted against the “do anything” law after 9/11.
He is being very pro PBO this evening – something I haven’t seen anywhere for years – doing a plus on the ACA – and noted that in all its interviews of HRC – FoxNews asked not one question on Obamacare – the success of same has to be eating at Mrs Clinton’s soul. Will wait and see if anyone asks her about health care!
Actually, we watched the entire show, and Chris did, I felt, a good job. Yes, he asked some questions of the Admiral that bothered me for their obvious slant, but other people of his ilk would be interested, so he got to ask them and the Admiral handled him.
His show was very pro PBO tonight, and in fact we have watched him some recently and he has been pretty good. He also is not quite as jittery…..lets his guests speak.
agree 200% with the “less jittery” – when he is speaking positively of the administration he seems to slow down his speech and not interrupt his guests. Makes it much easier to watch/listen.
Yup, it was Petty. On Monday nights he has a live music show that is all recordings of live performances and on Tuesdays it’s Bluesday Tuesday. Both shows start at 8:00 eastern.
Thanks. I get home at 5PM. I will have to play it on my cell when I have a long drive. I use my cell for radio because I hate AM and FM music radio because he play the same songs over and over…
š I like Michael McDonald but you can only listen to “ya mo be there” so many times. I swear I heard it three times on a two hr drive home I felt like leaping from the car while it was still moving. Remember when radio stations played songs without hearing a repeat? Sometimes I would keep driving because they kept playing all my favs.
Fantastic again and in the same day. We have the hardest working president who works hard for the people. We Have The Best. May blessings of goodness continue to follow this decent and good man, our President, Barack Obama. HZ
I guess we should be glad did not go to war….there would be lots of “friendly” fire deaths. As I recall Cheney barely ecked out an apology in fact his friend apologized for getting his face in the way of Cheney’s gun.
I have come to the conclusion that this obsession with Hillary has to do with a fight that democrats are having.
Half the democrats love Hillary, half of them are disappointed or don’t like this president.
This goes back to daily kos 08 campaign, and people are still fighting it furiously.
Sad!
Evening all. Just catching up from today.
Evening, and congrats!
LIVE NOW: President Obama in New York – http://www.cbsnews.com/liveFeed/widget.shtml
Hello, again!
I just saw the New post and Click on the CBS feed and heard: God Bless America. Then Bruce’s Train.
So what did I miss?
Crazy, Nena – CBS only covered the last minute of the speech š Although, in fairness, it started waaaay early.
The š» was Early and Loose in NYC š
HA!
Yeah seems like he’s done already. Oh well, I missed most of the speech š¦
Oh well, perhaps, there will be a Youtube Video somehow. š
…..If you’re anything like me, when you hear the words “wise insights about the Iraq war,” two names that immediately come to mind are Paul Wolfowitz and Scooter Libby. Fortunately the Hertog Institute has engaged them both to teach a course, “The War in Iraq: A Study in Decision-Making.” I will confess that when someone told me about this today, I assumed it was an Onion-style joke. As in, “The Work-Family Balance: Getting It Right,” co-taught by John Edwards and Eliot Spitzer. But it turns out to be real. Or “real.” In the cause of public knowledge, I am happy to offer royalty-free use of several items for the reading list. Like:
“The Fifty-First State?” from the year before the war. The Wolfowitz-Libby “study in decision-making” might consider why on Earth so many obvious implications of the war were blithely dismissed ahead of time, including by these two men. Or …
“Blind into Baghdad,” about the grotesque combination of arrogance, ignorance, and incompetence that characterized decision-making about the war. Or …
“Bush’s Lost Year,” about the sequence of advantages squandered, opportunities missed, and crucial wrong bets made in the months just after the 9/11 attacks. Students might find this one particularly interesting, since it begins with a long interview with their own Professor Wolfowitz. For the Cliff’s Notes version, see after the jump.
Somehow I am guessing that the professors might pass up my generous offer. So instead, here’s another “at first I thought this was a joke” candidate: a new essay by William Kristol and Frederick Kagan in Kristol’s Weekly Standard with advice about Iraq:
Darn, it’s over?
….While House and Senate investigators have said their probes have turned up evidence that the Benghazi attacks were coordinated and planned by some people working with al Qaeda affiliates, the U.S. intelligence community has not determined that abu Khatallah was himself connected to al Qaeda. Without such a connection, the U.S. president was not authorized to kill or capture him under the 2001 Authorization for the Use of Military Force against al Qaeda.
….Abu Khatallah was, however, indicted for his role in the Benghazi attack. The president, according to U.S. officials, nonetheless had the authority to send the Delta and FBI team because of the inherent authorities to pursue outlaws wanted by a U.S. court of law.
āKhatallah currently faces criminal charges on three counts, and we retain the option of adding additional charges in the coming days,ā said Attorney General Eric Holder in a statement Tuesday. āEven as we begin the process of putting Khatallah on trial and seeking his conviction before a jury, our investigation will remain ongoing as we work to identify and arrest any co-conspirators.ā…..
The good:
Not so good:
I have little faith in Richard Engel – he seems to want a war zone from which he can preach. “Police Officials” sounds like the proverbial “white house spokesperson” neither of whom are ever named.
Your response is so funny…to me, TS. I read the tweet a few minutes before you posted, thought ‘I don’t trust you, Engel’ and switched over for a peek at twitter. I come back and you had already stated my Engel position. š
I fear you are right. Engel will believe anybody who turns to him and says, “Oh, you’re Richard Engel?” The guy was war-itis. He believes he’s the story, and “war” is his life.
Meant to write “The guy has war-itis” !
count me in on that 99ts. I don’t trust him either. He may not have started out that way but it seems that he got caught up in the has become the person banging the drums for war.
I am watching Chris Hayes and he showed HRC saying what we do in this country is go after people who attack the USA. She is incorrect, because Republican presidents do not do this….as GWB said he does not spend time thinking about those people until he trots them out during an election so that he can scare the public…
HRC should do what I enjoy telling my toddler great grandson to do, every now and then, “Zip it.” At least he’s cute about it.
Although I had to mute him after five minutes, Chris Hayes actually has on a living, breathing, still-serving representative of the Department of Defense – Pentagon Press Secretary Rear Admiral John Kirby – to talk about AAK. Bravo. Of course, Chris is asking totally inappropriate and ill-advised political and legal questions of Adm. Kirby, which he is prohibited from answering … and more or less is trying to find out at exactly which “undisclosed location in U.S. custody” the captured terrorist is being held … like the idiotic dork he is.
But, finally, it’s not a Bush administration poser/guesser/has-been.
We’re on the same wavelength JoB – He was doing the far left – are we giving the man his rights! – and Fox News – after demanding death – political or actual – for those who “caused” Benghazi – will scream the same.
Thus said – he is also interviewing the only congresswoman who voted against the “do anything” law after 9/11.
Eek. Glad I moved on from all the rehashing.
He is being very pro PBO this evening – something I haven’t seen anywhere for years – doing a plus on the ACA – and noted that in all its interviews of HRC – FoxNews asked not one question on Obamacare – the success of same has to be eating at Mrs Clinton’s soul. Will wait and see if anyone asks her about health care!
Actually, we watched the entire show, and Chris did, I felt, a good job. Yes, he asked some questions of the Admiral that bothered me for their obvious slant, but other people of his ilk would be interested, so he got to ask them and the Admiral handled him.
His show was very pro PBO tonight, and in fact we have watched him some recently and he has been pretty good. He also is not quite as jittery…..lets his guests speak.
agree 200% with the “less jittery” – when he is speaking positively of the administration he seems to slow down his speech and not interrupt his guests. Makes it much easier to watch/listen.
:WP: acting up?
2-3 posts have gone missing š¦
Congrats on 1st vetivera!!
Bottom line ….
#TrustBarack
Thank you, Bobfr. You are so dedicated, and we appreciate you so much.HZ
My brother’s radio show is on right now:
http://www.thexkeywest.com
He plays lots of good stuff and It’s free to stream.
Thanks he’s playing some cool bluesy number by Tom Petty? Whoever it is it’s nice playing in the background while I am TOD.
Yup, it was Petty. On Monday nights he has a live music show that is all recordings of live performances and on Tuesdays it’s Bluesday Tuesday. Both shows start at 8:00 eastern.
Thanks. I get home at 5PM. I will have to play it on my cell when I have a long drive. I use my cell for radio because I hate AM and FM music radio because he play the same songs over and over…
Even if they did switch songs how could you tell? It all sounds like ‘A Night at the Roxbury’ to me.
š I like Michael McDonald but you can only listen to “ya mo be there” so many times. I swear I heard it three times on a two hr drive home I felt like leaping from the car while it was still moving. Remember when radio stations played songs without hearing a repeat? Sometimes I would keep driving because they kept playing all my favs.
Absolutely amazing speech! Don’t miss it!
http://www.c-span.org/video/?320014-1/president-obama-remarks-dnc-fundraiser
Thanks, sugar!
FANTASTIC Speech, in_deed, Meta!!!!!!
Fantastic again and in the same day. We have the hardest working president who works hard for the people. We Have The Best. May blessings of goodness continue to follow this decent and good man, our President, Barack Obama. HZ
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We all know this, and I don’t even like seeing Dick’s name, but this is worded so hilariously, thought I’d share. Dyin’ Laughin’.
I guess we should be glad did not go to war….there would be lots of “friendly” fire deaths. As I recall Cheney barely ecked out an apology in fact his friend apologized for getting his face in the way of Cheney’s gun.
Yes, I remember the “friend.” I felt as though he were paid to say it!
With friends like Cheney, who needs enemies?
Nerdy’s new post:
http://theobamadiary.com/2014/06/17/america-under-president-obama-means-progress/
And VC will never get over it, she was a little girl then.
I shall now go hide in the “safe room”.
(No room is safe enough at moments like this)
š
I have come to the conclusion that this obsession with Hillary has to do with a fight that democrats are having.
Half the democrats love Hillary, half of them are disappointed or don’t like this president.
This goes back to daily kos 08 campaign, and people are still fighting it furiously.
Sad!