“Chris died because of craven, irresponsible politicians and the NRA.”

95 Responses to ““Chris died because of craven, irresponsible politicians and the NRA.””

  1. 1 Nerdy Wonka
    May 24, 2014 at 9:10 pm

    I thank him for speaking truth even in the midst of his anguish and pain.

    It is a disturbing country we live in most days when one can be gunned down in a movie theater, a church, a community center, a mall, dining out, in a college class, in an elementary school.

    I have no idea how the NRA leadership, gun manufacturers who lobby for lax regulation, and cowardly politicians sleep at night. Thousands of innocent people are dying everyday and their blood is on the hands of the above mentioned.

    • 2 jackiegrumbacher
      May 24, 2014 at 9:42 pm

      The NRA and their GOP shills sleep at night because they’re well compensated by the gun industry. Where money is involved, the greedy have no conscience. The demented gun lovers who put their own insecurities and paranoid fantasies above human life convince themselves that they, not those who die needlessly from reckless gun use, are the victims. No other civilized country in the world is so controlled by gun fanaticism. In this madness, we are truly, number 1.

    • 4 nathkatun7
      May 25, 2014 at 3:14 am

      Well said NW! My heart goes out to him and his family! He definitely showed incredible courage and incredible caring for all the parents in the U S.! Speaking from personal experience, the most excruciating and overwhelming pain, for any parent, is losing a child! And to loose a child, because of senseless gun violence, must be totally devastating!

  2. 5 taiping1
    May 24, 2014 at 9:10 pm

    When will people protect rights of citizens not to be shot?

  3. 6 hopefruit2
    May 24, 2014 at 9:11 pm

    UGH…I am just sick and tired of this. That video needs to be played at top volume on loop in the studios of all the media, Congressional AND NRA headquarters…

  4. 7 vcprezofan2
    May 24, 2014 at 9:17 pm

    What does one say when faced with these senseless murders ad nauseum? I can’t think of anything more horrific than Sandy Hook, and when nothing was done by Congress, I lost hope in this area.

  5. 8 GGAIL
    May 24, 2014 at 9:20 pm

    I woke up to this senseless killing on my television. This video breaks my heart. I hope you all tweet it over & over.

  6. 9 hopefruit2
    May 24, 2014 at 9:24 pm


  7. May 24, 2014 at 9:26 pm

    Congrats on 1st, NW.

    Had just posted this at the bottom of the previous thread.

    NW – this is the 2014 UT Commencement Speech, btw. And, I think it is a fitting message in the face of the darkness that the KOCHS, NRA, GOP represent at this moment in America’s history.

    My hope is that all of you will view this and then share it and view it again and share it again until you touch as many people as you possibly can.

    You will have done immeasurable good by doing so.

    Admiral McRaven is someone whom I’ve had great admiration for a long time.


    #LandSlideDEMS2014 It is our Solemn Responsibility to make that happen

  8. 27 hopefruit2
    May 24, 2014 at 9:28 pm

    Has the President been briefed on this matter?

    • 28 anniebella
      May 24, 2014 at 9:34 pm

      I’m sure POTUS he has been brief. Have the sorry ass politicians who is in the hip pocket of the NRA been brief? Do these politicians even give a dam?

  9. May 24, 2014 at 9:30 pm

    Sad indictment on the NRA from a grieving father. My heart goes out to him

  10. May 24, 2014 at 9:31 pm

  11. May 24, 2014 at 9:43 pm

    Rodger’s father, a Hollywood director, and his family say they warned police about disturbing videos weeks before the shooting rampage their son committed near a Santa Barbara university. Alan Shifman, attorney for Peter Rodger, assistant director of The Hunger Games series, said the family had not yet seen the young man’s body. Shifman said family members called authorities several weeks ago after being alarmed by YouTube videos “regarding suicide and the killing of people. “Police interviewed Elliot Rodger and found him to be a “perfectly polite, kind and wonderful human,” Shifman said. Authorities did not find a history of guns, but did say he had trouble making friends, he added.

    A YouTube video posted Friday in which a young man complains of rejection by women appears to be connected to the attack, said Santa Barbara Sheriff Bill Brown, who called the attack “the work of a madman.”

    …..A sobbing Richard Martinez said Saturday his son Christopher Ross Martinez, 20, was killed in the shooting. “Our family has a message for every parent out there: You don’t think it will happen to your child until it does,” Martinez said. “His death has left our family broken.”…..

    • 32 99ts
      May 24, 2014 at 9:52 pm

      Of course it was a “madman” – white folks are always mad, they are not terrorists or thugs like those others.

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  13. 34 desertflower
    May 24, 2014 at 9:55 pm

    In light of what has happened, YET AGAIN…if you are so inclined to get involved or to donate to the cause.


  14. 35 desertflower
    May 24, 2014 at 9:57 pm


    Gyno-Star @GynoStar · 1h
    Bottom line: The threat of violence is the background noise of our lives, so constant we forget it shouldn’t be there. #YesAllWomen
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  15. 39 desertflower
    May 24, 2014 at 9:58 pm

    LOLGOP @LOLGOP · 28m
    I know gun violence can’t be completely eliminated. I just wish the right thought it was as big a problem as people getting health insurance

  16. May 24, 2014 at 9:58 pm

    • 42 jackiegrumbacher
      May 24, 2014 at 10:16 pm

      Bob, what do you think the chances are of this election coming off without Russian interference?

      • May 24, 2014 at 11:19 pm

        Jackie, the Russians have been interfering since Feb, but the elections will happen and Ukraine will have a legitimately elected President. What happens after that will determine the future of Ukraine – a future that Russia has assured will view it as a toxic enemy.

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  19. 46 jacquelineoboomer
    May 24, 2014 at 10:18 pm

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    • 48 jackiegrumbacher
      May 24, 2014 at 10:40 pm

      Amazing story. It’s depressing that the Ukrainian army is so ill-equipped. Surely, western countries could quietly contribute needed materials. This piecemeal process of equipping the army is going to take time and that’s the one thing that’s in short supply with Russia breathing down their neck.

      • May 24, 2014 at 10:56 pm

        My perception is that the interval from Feb until tomorrow has been very much about Ukrainians needing to come to terms with the fact that they must determine their own destiny. Have no doubt that if America, EU, NATO had flooded Ukraine with equipment, advisers, etc., that Tzar Vlad would have used such actions to justify invading.

        Once Ukraine has established an elected Administration and that Administration begins restoring its armed forces, among all the other institutions that must be built from the ashes and plunder of the past 20 + years of the likes of Yanukovych and others like him, that Ukraine will receive all the assistance it needs.

        • 50 jackiegrumbacher
          May 25, 2014 at 8:12 am

          Thank you. You’re right about massive military aid from the West providing a justification for an outright Russian invasion. A duly elected Ukrainian president can’t come fast enough.

  21. 51 jacquelineoboomer
    May 24, 2014 at 10:41 pm

    Info on the National Memorial Day Parade in D.C., May 26 (2 pm EST), which will be livestreamed via a few outlets.


  22. 52 Cindy
    May 24, 2014 at 11:05 pm

    (CNN) — Fox News anchor Gregg Jarrett spent a dozen hours in jail after being arrested on charges of interfering with a police officer at the Minneapolis-St. Paul International Airport, officials said.

    Jarrett, 59, was “belligerent and uncooperative” with police officers who responded to a report Wednesday that he was drunk at an airport bar, according to airport spokesman Patrick Hogan.

    “He is dealing with serious personal issues at this time,” a Fox News spokeswoman said in an e-mail to CNN on Thursday.

    Yep! What will FOX say when he gets a gun in his hand and start shooting innocent people? Oh I know; Jarrett was just upset and needs care.
    If he was black and did this; 24/7 spin on Fox, black man gone wild.

    • 53 anniebella
      May 24, 2014 at 11:09 pm

      Cindy, there question would be what is wrong with the black community?

      • 54 Cindy
        May 24, 2014 at 11:17 pm

        Yes, and the statement following would have been; President Obama is not doing enough for the blacks to stop the madness.

  23. 55 carolyn
    May 24, 2014 at 11:08 pm

    Just one thought on the awful killings in Santa Barbara…..on ABC tonight I saw a part of one of the boy’s tapes. What I saw was a very spoiled rich boy, who had never dealt with anything negative in his life. He was having a major pity party, and had absolutely everything given to him. He is of a type that parents coddle, and try to protect from life.
    I see the results of this treatment….kids who are often home schooled, or sent to private “Christian” schools, so they will never come in contact with anything dirty or threatening. I see this boy as so entitled and protected he has no idea what is real in life, and no idea how to handle anything negative.
    I don’t know the parents, and don’t want to accuse them of anything, but I see this attitude in some young people whose parents don’t want them to experience anything negative. They have never learned how to deal with people, so resort to the TOO EASILY AVAILABLE guns.. How can anyone sitting in a BMW expect people to pity him???
    And the police said he was a “perfectly polite, kind and wonderful human.” Do you trust police? I don’t. That is total dereliction of duty and willful blindness.

    • 56 99ts
      May 24, 2014 at 11:28 pm

      There are many who influence teenagers – other than their parents. As a mother, I have always tried to protect my daughter from the bad things of life & will probably continue to do this until I am no longer here – although, of course, it is an impossible dream. I don’t believe in home schooling, nor do I think religious education belongs anywhere except in Sunday School – I always supported my daughter’s teachers when the teenager rebelled – but much of what she learned at that time never came from her home – quite the opposite.

      I learned very early not to blame parents for all that their children do. I do abhor things such as parents physically abusing children or imposing an impossibly morality on them, but I do not blame the parents when a child turns against everything he/she was probably taught in his/her childhood.

      Warmongering – which seems to never end in our society – seems to be the reason why some think that all problems can be solved at the point of a gun. McCain makes this argument EVERY time a country does something with which he disagrees. It is the reason why the President cannot venture out without a massive display of armed protection.

      Which brings me back to PBO – despite he cannot get any restrictions on gun ownership through congress – by refusing to send armed responses when many say he should, in his own fashion, he is explaining that the answer to all our issues – should not depend on guns. This can be seen by both his external responses & by the response to those within the US who would incite gun violence.

  24. May 24, 2014 at 11:09 pm

    All My Children Vet Matthew Cowles Dead at 69; Husband to Christine Baranski

    Matthew Cowles, a two-time Daytime Emmy nominee during his run as iconic All My Children ne’er-do-well Billy Clyde Tuggle, passed away on May 22. He was 69.

    Cowles is survived by his wife of 30 years, The Good Wife‘s Christine Baranski, and their adult daughters Lily and Isabel.

    Cowles’ manager Tsu Tsu Stanton broke the sad news on Twitter, noting: “[Matthew] was a very gifted and kind man who loved life and everyone.” Onetime AMC headwriter Jean Passanante acknowledged the actor’s passing by hailing “AMC’s one and only Billy Clyde Tuggle” as “a sweet man and a uniquely talented actor.”

    In addition to his AMC run — which he capped one year ago with an encore during the sudser’s Internet revival — Cowles’ TV resume included ABC’s Life on Mars, Oz, Lonesome Dove, The Bold and the Beautiful (as Curtis Love) and Loving (as Eban Japes).

    Born in New York City to Broadway producer Chandler Cowles, his Great White Way credits included Malcolm (1966), The Time of Your Life and Sweet Bird of Youth. The actor also appeared in many films, and worked as a playwright.


    • 59 anniebella
      May 24, 2014 at 11:17 pm

      I remember the pimp Billy Clyde, he was a unforgettable character, sorry to hear about Mr. Cowles.

  25. 60 carolyn
    May 24, 2014 at 11:16 pm

    Thank you to Jacquelineboomer for the song, “I Love a Rainy Night” it went through my head all evening…..and today we’ve had more glorious rain, without wind, hail or tornadoes! We are thrilled to pieces! It’s even falling in the extra dry western sections of the state, which is in an EXCEPTIONAL state of drought.

    • 61 jacquelineoboomer
      May 24, 2014 at 11:20 pm

      Oh, you are quite welcome, carolyn. Glad you saw my link! Happy for your rain, too.

    • May 24, 2014 at 11:51 pm

      I’m glad you got nice rain. Your State is one of the seven driest states. We got the scary thunder and lightening and it sounded like it was hitting our trees.

  26. May 24, 2014 at 11:17 pm

    Every Single Day…. EVERY. SINGLE. DAY…folks are killed on the mean streets of our cities and towns…Until these killings spur the same kind Outage and emotion we will be at their mercy!….We lose someone’s son….someone’s daughter….every damn day…..OMG…we have to find a way to stop the killing…..

    • 64 nathkatun7
      May 25, 2014 at 3:34 am

      So, so, true Prettyfoot! Too many young people are being taken away from their families because of gun violence. This country must stop glorifying guns! We must reject the right wing ideology, which equates gun ownership with freedom and manhood.

  27. 65 desertflower
    May 24, 2014 at 11:22 pm


    How the NRA Enables Massacres
    As a shooting spree leaves seven dead in California, the gun lobby is trying to thwart attempts to study gun deaths and officials who see gun violence as a public health crisis.

    • 66 desertflower
      May 24, 2014 at 11:23 pm

      Of course, this is all too familiar: a young aggrieved male, mentally disturbed, threatening others—especially women—but still able to get his hands on a high-capacity magazine of the variety used in so many other mass murders. This doesn’t happen in any other high income country with the regularity it does here; in fact, it almost never happens in any of them.

      But here, in the good ole US of A, we’ve allowed a group of rich, entitled thugs who run an operation fronting for arms dealers—guys who represent a minority position on pretty much every issue having to do with reasonable regulation of firearms even among gun owners—to dictate our policies to cowardly, careerist politicians.

    • 68 nathkatun7
      May 25, 2014 at 3:48 am

      Thank you so much, Desertflower, for sharing this excellent article.

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  30. 71 jacquelineoboomer
    May 24, 2014 at 11:30 pm

    Keep repeating it, VC!

  31. 73 isonprize
    May 24, 2014 at 11:32 pm

    NRA stalls surgeon general pick (If we don’t VOTE in 2014, we get what we deserve!!)


  32. 74 vcprezofan2
    May 24, 2014 at 11:42 pm

    Sometimes I wonder if GOP ‘leaders’ are connected to the real world. They say one thing (loyal to troops) and practise another (vote against troops) and then spout their pious rhetoric as if *we* are all clueless morons who cannot add 1+1.

  33. May 24, 2014 at 11:45 pm

    What bothers me is when the NRA apologists come on media and say “guns don’t kill, people kill”. I’m no doctor and I don’t read a lot of autopsy reports but I don’t think there is one of a gunshot victim that does not say he/she died from a fatal gunshot would to a vital organ. I’m sure it then goes into detail of the angle of the shot, the bullets used etc. and where the bullets were located. So yes, it’s the guns and the bullets that kill idjits!

  34. 84 amk for obama
    May 24, 2014 at 11:46 pm

    To expect the cravenly coward politicians to stand against guns and nra thugs is plain stupid. They didn’t do it even when prominent & popular presidents and civil leaders were assassinated. Why would they do now?

    1st and 2nd amendments will be the perpetual and permanent bane on american psyche.

    • 85 vcprezofan2
      May 25, 2014 at 12:03 am

      I am so slow! I just noticed you are here, which means it’s time for me to pass over the baton

      Good night, all!

    • 88 hopefruit2
      May 25, 2014 at 9:02 am

      It won’t change until one or more of the head honchos in the NRA becomes victimized by gun violence…and I won’t be sorry if that happens.

      • 89 amk for obama
        May 25, 2014 at 9:03 am

        It will be a sweet schadenfreude but it won’t be a game changer.

        • 90 hopefruit2
          May 25, 2014 at 9:06 am

          There is a reason that people are not allowed to enter the NRA headquarters with guns. They know perfectly well how dangerous guns are, and they take the necessary steps to protect themselves, BUT all the protection in the world will not stop karma paying them a nasty visit one day…

  35. 91 amk for obama
    May 25, 2014 at 12:14 am

  36. 92 amk for obama
    May 25, 2014 at 12:47 am

    LOL. nra spambot is already here. Fuck off, ‘robert’. Go, learn English first.

  37. May 25, 2014 at 1:59 am

    Good night TOD

  38. 94 lockewasright
    May 25, 2014 at 2:38 am

    Whenever I hear somebody say that guns don’t kill people, people kill people; I always respond with: “I agree, and as soon as we finish doing something about all of the cases where they use a gun in their killing we can move on to addressing all of the cases where they use a bag of marshmallows instead.”

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