Chat On!

Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., walks the beach with his daughters Malia, 10, left, and Sasha, 7, Aug. 12, 2008

117 Responses to “Chat On!”

  1. December 21, 2013 at 9:07 pm

    • 17 99ts
      December 21, 2013 at 9:10 pm

      Try living in Australia – they quote 18 DAYS minimum unless you pay about $30 postage. I can get a package from the UK in 4 days at a cost of less than $US10

  2. 19 africa
    December 21, 2013 at 9:09 pm


  3. December 21, 2013 at 9:09 pm

    Well done LL 😉

    Thanks amk …. and Chips 🙂

    per Africa’s tweet at the bottom of the previous thread …

    And, hope all of you saw that #OBAMACARE total enrollments is now > 5.3 MILLION … https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AheStIw2-5S0dGkwbEJTalVNcERJQjBlWUcxbFp6M3c&usp=sharing#gid=6

    #FORWARD Together

  4. 30 amk for obama
    December 21, 2013 at 9:09 pm

  5. 31 amk for obama
    December 21, 2013 at 9:09 pm

  6. 32 amk for obama
    December 21, 2013 at 9:11 pm

  7. 33 hopefruit2
    December 21, 2013 at 9:14 pm

  8. 36 amk for obama
    December 21, 2013 at 9:15 pm

    LOL. Yup, you are.

    • 37 hopefruit2
      December 21, 2013 at 9:26 pm

      God was thinking of Justine Sacco when he posted this tweet.

      • 38 yardarm756
        December 21, 2013 at 9:56 pm

        I guess she let her alligator mouth overload her hummingbird ass. Where’s the outrage, I wonder? Surely the rwnj’s got somethin’ to say about free speech, right?

  9. December 21, 2013 at 9:19 pm

    Always loved this picture of the Senator and his daughters. So much love.

  10. 41 africa
    December 21, 2013 at 9:23 pm

  11. 42 amk for obama
    December 21, 2013 at 9:24 pm

  12. 45 africa
    December 21, 2013 at 9:25 pm

    Bobby The stupid Party Jindhal Exposed:

  13. 46 amk for obama
    December 21, 2013 at 9:25 pm


  14. 49 amk for obama
    December 21, 2013 at 9:29 pm

    Frankly, I think the deadline should be extended by another 3 months at least.

    • December 21, 2013 at 9:36 pm

      Open enrollment does not end until 31 March 2014, amk. Moreover:

      “There are 3 key dates you’ll want to mark on your calendar:

      October 1, 2013: Marketplace open enrollment started
      January 1, 2014: Health coverage can start
      March 31, 2014: Open enrollment ends

      Use the timeline of the health care law to learn more about what’s changing and find out how the law protects you.

      Deadline extended to January 10, 2014: Many health insurers have decided to give you more time to pay your first month’s premium, extending the deadline until January 10, 2014. Not all issuers are extending the payment deadline and some may still require you to pay on or before December 31, 2013. Check with your insurance company to confirm the date your premium is due. Learn how to complete your enrollment.

      You can apply for Medicaid and CHIP any time

      The Marketplace will tell you whether you qualify for Medicaid or the Children’s Health Insurance Program (CHIP). If you qualify for Medicaid or CHIP, your coverage can begin immediately. You can also apply for either of these programs right now. Follow the the links above to learn more.”


      Beyond 31 March 2014:

      “The period of time during which individuals who are eligible to enroll in a Qualified Health Plan can enroll in a plan in the Marketplace. For coverage starting in 2014, the Open Enrollment Period is October 1, 2013–March 31, 2014. For coverage starting in 2015, the Open Enrollment Period is November 15, 2014–January 15, 2015. Individuals may also qualify for Special Enrollment Periods outside of Open Enrollment if they experience certain events. (See Special Enrollment Period and Qualifying Life Event – links below.)”


      • 51 99ts
        December 21, 2013 at 9:44 pm

        Really good summary Bob – shame the GOP is doing all they can to make sure people don’t see it.

      • 52 amk for obama
        December 21, 2013 at 9:46 pm

        I know Bob. What with the time lost initially lost during roll-out and year end family spending, I think it would attract more people if the pay by date is pushed back. Simple demand / supply situation.

        • December 21, 2013 at 10:16 pm

          They’re trying amk. We may see a further extension of the pay date given the obvious surge of customers. Let’s see what happens on Monday as the numbers expand. The folk doing the selling may be only to eager to reap $$$ in mid to late Jan rather than have to wait until 1 April 🙂

          • 54 amk for obama
            December 21, 2013 at 10:38 pm

            Screw the insurance cos. If 5 million sign-up for private insurance by March, @200 a pop on average, that’s one billion bucks a year. The fuckers can afford to wait.

  15. 55 amk for obama
    December 21, 2013 at 9:29 pm

  16. December 21, 2013 at 9:31 pm

  17. 57 amk for obama
    December 21, 2013 at 9:36 pm

  18. 72 amk for obama
    December 21, 2013 at 9:49 pm

  19. 73 amk for obama
    December 21, 2013 at 10:00 pm

  20. December 21, 2013 at 10:00 pm


  21. 75 amk for obama
    December 21, 2013 at 10:04 pm

  22. December 21, 2013 at 10:04 pm

  23. December 21, 2013 at 10:13 pm

    “In Saturday’s paper and online, author Joseph Epstein mourns the collapse of what he describes as the “genuine ruling class, drawn from what came to be known as the WASP establishment,” (WASP, the commonly-held acronym for White, Anglo-Saxon Protestant). Instead, he argues, we are living in a meritocracy, governed not by an elite subset of the uppermost crust of society but rather by a group of people who overcame some kind of adversity and achieved success thanks to their own merits, not based on what family they were born into. This, according to Epstein, is a tragedy.

    Epstein’s embrace of white privilege (or is it power?) is almost too transparent, resembling something closer to satire than to outright racism. And yet he gives no reason to believe that he isn’t completely serious when he argues that modern day “corruption, scandal and incompetence” are hallmarks exclusive to this new era of non-white rule. Or when he memorializes the virtues of keeping those not born into the “WASPocracy” away from the halls of power. Or when he faults the leadership of the country’s top colleges for its role in ending white rule by “lessening the number of legacies automatically admitted, and using racial preferences to encourage the enrollment of blacks.”

    Instead, Epstein argues, we should return to an era of WASP rule. Why? Because rich, white men born into rich, white christian families would never lead the country astray ….”

    link in the tweet ….

    Oh yes indeedy we are in a culture war and, as noted many times in past comments, the election of President Obama in 2008 heralded the ‘beginning of the ending of the Civil War’ and his re-election in 2012 affirmed that the majority of Americans want the “3rd Reconstruction” to proceed.

    With #OBAMACARE now clearly going to be a mega-success and the economy getting stronger every day, the whitey plutocrats are in full-blown freak out mode. And, now they have a Pope and a President speaking ‘EQUITABLE OPPORTUNITY” …. talk about ‘nightmares of the rich & evil’ that script is writing itself, 24/7, on Twitter and all other forms of Internet-powered social discourse.

    Gird yourselves, this is not going to be easy, but we will PREVAIL.

    Yes We Can

    • 85 No Child Left Behind
      December 21, 2013 at 10:18 pm

      Forward thinking, Bobfr. FORWARD.

    • 88 amk for obama
      December 21, 2013 at 10:19 pm

      Ah, the 1%er watb whine. sweet schadenfreude.

    • December 21, 2013 at 10:40 pm

      Just read the oped. It was, actually, a rather interesting piece. It wasn’t so much racist, but classist. And of course, classism and racism are of a piece. The piece was a lamentation for a lost idyll—which was, of course, dominated by a white elite. But the whiteness of that elite is taken as a given. It’s taken as a given that it was the founding culture of the country, and should have been deferred to perpetually. It was a sort of soi disant racism, not the virulent racism we’ve become used to in the Age of Obama. It was, actually, rather sad. “Don’t you miss how things used to be?” it asks, acting like a culture of King Arthurs waiting on Avalon to be called to rescue the Republic. And it makes mention of WASPocracy’s deficiencies while simultaneously minimizing them. As a balancing act, it was quite a pleasure to read.

      If the meritocracy means we have to endure the travesty of a Ted Cruz to revel in the sublimity of a Barack Obama, I’ll take the tradeoff. Because true merit shines through in the end. That was almost never the case with the WASPocracy.

      • December 21, 2013 at 10:56 pm

        “If the meritocracy means we have to endure the travesty of a Ted Cruz to revel in the sublimity of a Barack Obama, I’ll take the tradeoff. Because true merit shines through in the end. That was almost never the case with the WASPocracy.”

        Albeit a very tedious, and not at all assured process of yielding ‘equitable opportunity’ what has been in motion since the slave owning, misogynistic Founders pushed the ‘go’ button on the American Promise experiment is that a sufficient number of those with power prevailed in expanding opportunity based on merit. That process was severely thwarted by the actions of SCOTUS in 2000 – anointing a 40 y/o WASP flunky President. But, 8 years later a majority of Americans accelerated the process and added even more fuel to it in 2012.

        President Obama gets it – it’s all about that “North Star” and NEVER losing site of it irrespective of how the path toward it is buffeted by opposing forces.

        We get it, as well. That’s why we are among the tens of millions who would not be denied our right to vote.

        We will prevail.

        Yes We Can

        • 91 jacquelineoboomer
          December 21, 2013 at 11:08 pm

          Ahhh. The North Star and thoughtful insights, all around. I’ll drink to that!

          Yes, I kinda think we will prevail. Even with the rough seas … and the continuing tedious processes …

          And look how far we’ve come! We don’t often have time to look, because we can’t take our eyes off anything and just sit back and enjoy it, but we’ve changed the set and rewritten the play on the American stage quite a few times, and will continue.

      • 92 Lovepolitics2008
        December 21, 2013 at 11:29 pm

        LL, I think you’re much too kind. The author basically says that “meritocrats”, more often than not, means comformism, greed, selfishness, weakness of character and lack of leadership.

        What the ???

        The WASP culture has produced good people, people of honor, but also plenty of selfish, corrupted jerks. The “meritocracy” culture has produced selfish and ultra-competitive jerks but also plenty of people of character with great leadership skills.

        There are good and bad people in every segment of society.

        That article made me cringe. So much that at first I thought it was snark.

    • 93 jacquelineoboomer
      December 21, 2013 at 10:54 pm

      Bob and LL and everyone who read that – I’m glad you did, and I’m also glad you gave us your well-thought-out comments on the op-ed.

      I choose not to read it – only because I’m saving what’s left of that had-enough spot inside me, which is nearing its saturation point, for something … I dunno … worse. But I appreciated knowing about it, and reading your take(s).

    • 98 nathkatun7
      December 22, 2013 at 12:00 am

      Bob, It has never been easy for privileged people to accept change, That’s why movies like “The Birth of The Nation” and “Gone With The Wind” were so popular.

      • December 22, 2013 at 2:22 am

        Agree, nath. And, it’s why I’ve never watched either of those movies, btw, and never will.

        • 100 nathkatun7
          December 22, 2013 at 3:25 am

          Good for you Bob! I confess I did go watch “Gone with the Wind” when I was in college because it had such rave reviews. It was at the time when I was still totally ignorant about the history of the Civil War and the Reconstruction period that followed. I also watched the very long and tedious silent movie, “The Birth of the Nation,” as part of a class project in the history of American film. Thankfully, the professor made sure to highlight the racist aspect of the film and the fact that it was based on Thomas Nelson Page’s book, “The Klansman.” I don’t know about you, but some of the teachers I had in the 1960s were absolutely the best in teaching us critical thinking. To this day, almost 45 years later, I still use what I learned in my film class on how to view movies and T. V. programs. It wasn’t until my junior year in college that I switched my major from Economics to History. My history professors (by the way one of them was an Iranian with a PhD from Stanford University in U.S. History) had such a profound and lasting impact on me.

    • December 22, 2013 at 3:20 am

      Oh my, at last. I’ve been trying to impart this message for a long time, but it’s so difficult to write about race and believe me ….that’s what it comes down to. The recent focus on South Africa’s past should have reminded everyone why the Republicans are “really” objecting to “one man, one vote”.

      Voting isn’t just about elections,nor is birth control about religion or even babies. clearly, if people of color outnumber whites and they vote, they will control politics…hence all the voters suppression, purging, etc. The need to end contraception has to do with population control. People who care about children don’t cut off their food stamps, education and healthcare. America passes out contraceptives in third world countries like it’s candy. Even the abortion story is misleading. They knew poor people (primarily people of color) would obtain abortions, but there was no expectation that so many white women would avail themselves to the procedure.

      All Republican social concerns can be traced back to the need to remain in a majority position and in control of the political scene. President Obama is a constant and affirming reminder that their days are numbered and “something must be done” to assure white majority. If you can remember this fact when trying to understand their policies, it will suddenly all make sense.

      I write about this a lot, hoping people will make the connection, but as a friend says, “writing about race is like trying to throw a grenade and finding it stuck to your hand.”

      Ask yourself, what’s the real reason there’s no pathway to citizenship for people, many of whom have been in this country decades already? They are mostly people of color. When Mitt Romney was talking about “Anglo Saxon” concerns…what did he mean? They want us to look at voter identification, right to life, etc…it’s all about the population.

  24. December 21, 2013 at 10:17 pm

  25. 103 dotster3
    December 21, 2013 at 10:22 pm

    The moving, heartbreaking statement by the parents of Claire Davis, the Co. h.s. shooting victim who died today….


    • 104 nathkatun7
      December 22, 2013 at 12:15 am

      Absolutely heartbreaking! I totally understand the unspeakable grief Claire’s family must be going through. The absolute worst thing that can happen to any parent is losing a child.The pain, emptiness and total disbelief stays with you for a very long time. I hope the media will honor and respect Claire’s family request and allow them privacy to grieve.

  26. 105 isonprize
    December 21, 2013 at 10:23 pm

    On a different, positive note… Listen to this beautiful rendition of “O Holy Night”

  27. 106 dotster3
    December 21, 2013 at 10:23 pm

  28. 107 vcprezofan2
    December 21, 2013 at 10:24 pm

    Decided to take a peek in Hawaii, just in case…. but there wasn’t anything other than a few arrival pics (PBO greeting A or B)


  29. 109 amk for obama
    December 21, 2013 at 10:40 pm

    Cuba’s Raul Castro calls for better relations with US.

    Cuban President Raul Castro has called for “civilised relations” with the United States, saying the two countries should respect their differences.

    President Castro said the US should drop its demand for regime change on the communist-run island.

    That would allow both sides to continue work on improving relations, he said.

    Mr Castro’s comments follow a public handshake with President Obama at the memorial ceremony for Nelson Mandela in South Africa earlier this month.

    In a rare public speech, Mr Castro said Cuban and American officials had met several times over the last year to discuss practical matters, such as immigration and the re-establishment of a postal service.

    That shows that relations can be civilised, Mr Castro explained.

    But he warned: “If we really want to make progress in bilateral relations, we have to learn to respect each other’s differences and get used to living peacefully with them. Otherwise, no. We are ready for another 55 years like the last.”

    The US broke off relations with in 1961 after the revolution and maintains an economic embargo against the island.


    • 110 nathkatun7
      December 22, 2013 at 12:34 am

      AMK, The U.S. Cuban relations is so absurd! The same year President Obama was born, the U.S. imposed economic sanctions on that tiny Island. By the time he leaves office, the Cuban Economic embargo would be 55 years old. Yet, the economic isolation has done nothing to change the regime in more than half a century. In the meantime, the U.S. was able to forge “civilized relations” with the giant communist countries of the Soviet Union and China. The U.S. Cuban relations reeks of hypocrisy!

  30. 111 Layla
    December 21, 2013 at 10:43 pm

    It is snowing here…

  31. December 21, 2013 at 10:43 pm

    Ok everyone, give me a few moments, and I’ll have another in my Xmas music posts.

  32. 113 anniebella
    December 21, 2013 at 10:44 pm

    Sam Kass went to Hawaii with the First Familyi, do you think Alex Wagner went too?

  33. 116 anniebella
    December 21, 2013 at 10:48 pm

    The picture of POTUS and Sasha and Malia walking on the beach is so nice.

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