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Rise and Shine

On This Day: President Obama greets residents on Cedar Grove Avenue during a walking tour of Hurricane Sandy storm damage in Staten Island, N.Y., Nov. 15, 2012 (Photo by Pete Souza)

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Today (all times Eastern):

President Obama meets with with health insurance industry CEOs

12:45: Jay Carney briefs the press

12:45: VP Biden attends event for Sen. Hagan in Chapel Hill, N.C.

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Spandan (The People’s View): President Obama Check-Mates Health Insurance Lobby

There are a lot opinions going around about President Obama’s press conference this morning on the Affordable Care Act and its implementation. I see it as a singular thing: check mate. Once again, to quote my fellow contributor here at TPV, the president saved the Democrats’ bacon, and once again, with his back to the wall, he delivered a masterful stroke of political genius curved out to avoid any interference with policy.

The headlines tell you that Obama will let Americans who are being dropped from their plans keep those plans for another year, and that is absolutely true. But the headlines do not tell the whole story. With the withering assault on health reform from the media, the Republicans and some Democrats, the president took the most blistering attack line against him, and turned it into a weapon against reform opponents. Here is what I believe were the two most important sentence the president spoke in the nearly hourlong presser:

We’re also requiring insurers to extend current plans to inform their customers about two things: One, that protections — what protections these renewed plans don’t include. Number two, that the marketplace offers new options with better coverage and tax credits that might help you bring down the cost.

This, my fellow progressives, is how you keep your eyes on the prize….

More here

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Tommy Christopher (Mediaite): Ezra Klein Rodent-Fornicates Obamacare on MSNBC’s The Last Word

The weeks since the rollout of Obamacare have seen a level of media rodent-fornication worthy of a midnight screening of Willard in a dumpster, but most of that has been die to some rather transparent motives and deficiencies in the mainstream media. Less obvious, though, is the reason behind the egregious rodential sexcapades of Washington Post scribe and MSNBC contributor Ezra Klein, whose appearance on Thursday night’s The Last Word was a veritable clinic in misleading and misinforming on Obamacare.

…. Klein took heavy criticism from liberals over his early coverage of the Obamacare rollout, focusing on things like the hold music on the ACA phone line, and while the overall “adults in the room” tone gets grating, Wonkblog has also put out lots of great, clarifying information. Things like this, or referring to insurance commissioners doing exactly what the President wants as “backlash,” smack of burnishing an independent veneer, at the expense of the truth. There are enough rats on the other side already.

Full post here

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SmartyPants: Can we accept leaders that are human? That is the question President Obama posed today

All of us have essentially two choices in life: to try and risk the possibility of failure, or to never try at all. When we chose the former, we then have the option of either learning from our failures (they are inevitable) or letting our egos strip us of that potential.

Most of us face those kinds of options either alone or with a small group of friends/family/co-workers. And yet we know the shame that can cripple us in the process of admitting we failed.

Perhaps that’s why we so rarely witness that kind of admission on a large platform like national politics. We’ve built up a whole culture that assumes the worst thing our leaders can do is admit that they’re human and sometimes make mistakes. Rather than seeing them as opportunities to learn, we view them as defeat. And in the blood-sport that national politics has become, we assume that exposing them is the kiss of death.

More here

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Jim Stuart: Our Integral President

Watch the announcement/press conference and you will see how an integral leader responds to a serious, possibly existential crisis. I have never witnessed anything like this in public political life. I’ve seen officials apologize publicly before; I have never seen a major leader enter what I’ll call the “zone of apology” (that mental and conversational space where apology is present, looked at, reviewed, analyzed and engaged) and remain there so gracefully and with such powerful presence.

Before saying more, let me offer a David Whyte poem that, for me, wonderfully expresses the power an integral leader must have to hold difficult questions easily and to face directly into the “fierce heat of living”….

More here

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ThinkProgress: Koch Brothers’ Americans for Prosperity Spent Record $122 Million In 2012

Americans for Prosperity, the tax-exempt conservative political organization created by oil billionaires David and Charles Koch, spent $122 million in 2012 — more than it spent in all previous years combined. While the group’s $33.5 million campaign to defeat President Barack Obama failed, AFP has successfully helped like-minded candidates at the state and local level.

The Center for Public Integrity reported Thursday that from 2004 through 2011, AFP spent a total of $72 million. The group spent $21.7 million of that in 2010, after the Supreme Court’s 5 to 4 Citizens United ruling made it easier for tax-exempt organizations to influence elections. But documents filed in Colorado show that number more than quintupled in 2012. The group does not disclose its donors.

More here

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ThinkProgress: America Produced More Oil Than It Imported For The First Time Since 1995

The United States produced more crude oil than it imported in October for the first time in almost 20 years, the federal Energy Information Administration announced Wednesday. U.S. crude oil production averaged 7.7 million barrels per day in October while 7.6 million barrels per day were imported. Total petroleum net imports were the lowest since February 1991.

The U.S. also produced more oil in September than it has in any one-month period over the last 24 years. The U.S. remains the world’s largest consumer of oil and the largest importer of crude oil.

More here

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Charles Pierce on Mark Halperin:

“For going on three decades now, there has not been a hackier hack on this little blue marble than Mark Halperin. He is the worst thing to happen to political journalism since the mob in Alton iced Elijah Lovejoy. He is walking journalistic potato blight. He is a living, breathing, suppurating punditizing boil on the asscheeks of a once-proud profession.”

Sublime!

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On This Day:

Nov. 15, 2010 – Pete Souza: “It had been more than 40 years since a President had presented a Medal of Honor to a living recipient. Staff Sergeant Salvatore Giunta was that man, and he walked along the White House Colonnade with the President en route from the Oval Office to the public ceremony honoring him in the East Room.”

President Obama and First Lady Michelle Obama greet members of Staff Sergeant Salvatore Giunta’s family in the Blue Room of the White House, Nov. 15, 2010. The President presented the Medal of Honor to Staff Sergeant Giunta for his courageous actions during combat operations in the Korengal Valley of Afghanistan. (Photo by Pete Souza)

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MoooOOOooorning!


125 Responses to “Rise and Shine”


  1. 1 vcprezofan2
    November 15, 2013 at 9:54 am

    GM

    • 2 desertflower
      November 15, 2013 at 9:55 am

      I tied with the slow poke!!:) Morning sweet, vc!

    • 3 vcprezofan2
      November 15, 2013 at 9:55 am

      We’ve got the guy who is interested more in the team than in his own pocket – you can’t ask for more than that in politics.

    • November 15, 2013 at 9:55 am

      Mooooooorning VC, moooooorning everyone!

      • 5 vcprezofan2
        November 15, 2013 at 10:08 am

        Morning, love! Nice to run into you so early.
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        BTW, a curious question – (not that I want one or anything) how come I only get pictures when I’m ve-ry tardy. Are your rewards meant to be incentives? 😉 😉

        • November 15, 2013 at 10:10 am

          VC, you know by now my very fave thing in the world is turtle-teasing you 😆

          • 7 vcprezofan2
            November 15, 2013 at 10:14 am

            😆 😆 So they are! Just leave off the slugs please, and make sure they look like me – you know, young, well,dressed, colourful, and heading somewhere. 😉

            • November 15, 2013 at 10:16 am

              😆 You are in mighty fine form this morning VC!!!

              • 9 vcprezofan2
                November 15, 2013 at 10:26 am

                TY. Actually slept more than I was awake last night, plus know that I won’t be called in today. 😉

                Howsomever (teeheehee), I probably will have to go rake the leaves soon – tempted a niece & nephew to come and help. Or you could send Danny and I’ll send him back with a HUGE doggie bag, or three.

    • 10 dotster3
      November 15, 2013 at 10:42 am

      And all the news media aired of that quote was “I fumbled the ball”.

      • 11 vcprezofan2
        November 15, 2013 at 10:49 am

        Morning, Dotster. One thing I’ve learned from PBO vis-a-vis media is that the full message will (eventually) find its way out, PARTICULARLY if #wethepeople give it a push.

        I probably should have said *ONLY* if *we* give it the push, but we are more than capable, as evidenced by the results of PBO’s two elections.

  2. 12 desertflower
    November 15, 2013 at 9:54 am

    Happy Friday!

  3. November 15, 2013 at 10:01 am

  4. 26 Nena20409
    November 15, 2013 at 10:01 am

    Good Morning TODers.
    Congrats VC.

    I have not read anything since last night. I have not watched anything or listened to any radio this AM. So if this is a duplicate, please Chips or UT, have this deleted.

    I just saw this and decided to pipe in and to post it.

    Oprah on a BBC interview at 3:58 or so.

  5. November 15, 2013 at 10:01 am

  6. November 15, 2013 at 10:01 am

    Howdy all you O’s!!!! What a great getting up day in TODdytown!!! Congrats on first vcprezofan2. Good to see you at the top of the leader board.

    • 32 vcprezofan2
      November 15, 2013 at 10:05 am

      Howdy, construction neighbour – I came down to give you a hug {Cookem}! /don’t tell, but it was a bit dizzying up there as I jumped up unexpectedly and too quickly/

      • 33 cookemom
        November 15, 2013 at 10:17 am

        yep, I know dizzy, believe me. Just finished the bedroom and hallway, starting on the living and dining room (just painting and sprucing up), then one more bedroom, and den. That’s on schedule for before Christmas. Then by spring, the dreaded basement where the real fun begins.

        I haven’t been around much, cause I’ve been busy, but also because I’ve kinda unplugged from all things political. I must say though, that thanks to Obamacare #2 is still on my insurance and will have to undergo surgery. Were it not for ACA, she would just have to suffer with her agonizing back issues. So no natter what the rodeo clowns are saying, many people like me and my #2 are most grateful.

        • 34 vcprezofan2
          November 15, 2013 at 10:43 am

          Just to get back in sync with you I’ll keep my eyes on the spring for basement…maybe. Might just be the incentive needed to finally get that accomplished. We’ll see.

          I figured from your intermittent pop-ins that you were giving us nervous Nellies and Neds time to relax a bit while taking care of house business. 😉 😉 As you often say, President Barack Hussein Obama is still the president and the #ACA is here to stay. It’s amazing to me how those inescapable facts act on *my* nervous system. They work like a daily charm, giving me patience enough to wait out the media fusses until he steps forward and says his piece. In a way, I’m ALMOST enjoying the predictability of it.

          Sorry to hear #2 has been having back issues, but pleased that PBO was looking out for her, even before the crisis arose. Continue to take care of each other!

          • 35 cookemom
            November 15, 2013 at 5:55 pm

            Yes, things always bloom in the spring, including basements. My absence from cyberspace is tied into the volume levels of the poutroversy of the day. It hurts my ears, swirls my blood pressure, and causes all sorts of discombobulationisms. So in addition to actually being busy, I had to unplug from the hand wringing, teeth gnashing, and hair on fire.

            Thanks for the thoughts on #2. The good news is we just got back from the specialist and suggests physical therapy. Thankfully, ACA will also cover that cost as well.

  7. 39 hopefruit2
    November 15, 2013 at 10:02 am

    G’morning Chips, TOD, lurkers, everyone, and congrats Vc on #1 🙂

    Wonderful R & S roundup Chips – thanks for another extraordinary compilation 🙂

  8. November 15, 2013 at 10:03 am

    Good Friday Morning Chipsticks, TODers…Everyone!

  9. 42 hopefruit2
    November 15, 2013 at 10:03 am

    Let’s use this opportunity to remind folks of what Katrina was REALLY about – lest the media tries to rewrite history…..

  10. 43 MightyPamela
    November 15, 2013 at 10:06 am

    G’day y’all, bringing this plea over from my distinguished last place on early bird: MightyPamela on November 15, 2013 at 10:01 am
    Hey, g’day TOD! MightyPamela and her support team at this time are in need of a MEGA PUSH of spiritual energy and loving kindness to make it through the final stages. 15 days to go and it feels as if the paperwork process just to sign a lease has become a prehistoric effort on the part of the ‘corporate’ building owners, to kill off anyone interested in living on their premises. so, please, my dears, Love and Light all around me, your friend MP is out on the edge, getting ready for the next amazing adventure!! Big hugs all around, and Thank You! (whew) (oh, and sheesh!)

  11. 44 hopefruit2
    November 15, 2013 at 10:13 am

    Indeed. This is far more than just lazy journalism. It is so ugly, offensive on so many levels…There HAS to be more than just Twitter outrage about this. There needs to be a swift, unequivocal and unified push-back from entities with political and social gravitas, eg. (NAACP, CBC, certain media platforms, etc).

  12. 45 hopefruit2
    November 15, 2013 at 10:16 am

  13. 48 Linda
    November 15, 2013 at 10:20 am

    UpChuck thinks this President is at a low point……

    Shall we compare ?

    Obama – 38% (October 2011)
    Buѕh II – 25% (October 2008)
    Clіnton – 37% (May 1993)
    Buѕh I – 29% (July 1992)
    Reаgan – 35% (January 1983)
    Carter – 28% (June 1979)
    Ford – 37% (March 1975)
    Nixon – 24% (August 1974)
    Johnson – 35% (August 1968)
    Kennеdy – 56% (September 1963)

    Obama has the highest low in half a century. !!!!!!!!!!!!!

    • 49 hopefruit2
      November 15, 2013 at 10:40 am

      I don’t even believe the polls for President Obama are accurate – I would add 10 pts to each one.

      • 50 Nena20409
        November 15, 2013 at 11:00 am

        The polls are accurate. Those who conducted the polls made sure of it. Polls are political Media tools. When they show what they are Not expecting…..they ignore the polls. When they fine tone it to show what they want, they use polls to further drive their agenda. It is that simple. The media is driving a narrative. The website glitches gave them the avenue, Venue and opened up a vacuum that they are willing to drive for eternity. Once fixed, they would move on to another manufactured DC/NY driven diatribe.

        It only works on how Dems of all tripes and We the People react to the endless narrative driven schemes. The reason I come here ate TOD daily.

        • 51 Nena20409
          November 15, 2013 at 11:00 am

          Oops…at TOD daily.

        • 52 ERICFIVE
          November 15, 2013 at 11:53 am

          “The polls are accurate. Those who conducted the polls made sure of it.” Were the polls showing Romney winning the election accurate? I really hope you are joking. Polls are manipulated by the MSM to drive the desired narrative. That is why one should ALWAYS check a polls internals (or wait for an analysis by a trusted source) before buying into a particular polls validity. Polling mainly older white males or under representing minorities in polls are just a couple of the tricks used by the MSM. Another trick is the wording of poll questions. I agree with HF2 in her belief that the polls short change PBO of about 10% of his actual support.

          • 53 Nena20409
            November 15, 2013 at 12:00 pm

            I am deadly serious.

            The Media Pollsters Manipulate the polls to get the Results they desire.

            There is a distinction to Reliability……Gallup, Quinnipiac, Fox, Rasmussen, etc Found out that manipulations alone Can’t fool all. So they Failed.

            Were the polls showing Romney winning the election accurate?…………The desired results the Media wanted.

            • 54 ERICFIVE
              November 15, 2013 at 12:37 pm

              If you are arguing that polls that are manipulated to get desired results are somehow “accurate”, that makes no sense. An “accurate” poll is supposed to reflect reality. A poll doctored to get a desired result is by definition not “accurate”, rather it is propaganda.

              • 55 ERICFIVE
                November 15, 2013 at 12:40 pm

                And to answer the question about polls showing Romney winning the election, they were definitely NOT accurate because PBO won the election.

              • 56 Nena20409
                November 15, 2013 at 3:34 pm

                Not an argument. I am stating the Media as IS.

                They manipulate polls to pronounce a desired Goal.

                Their polls are Facts based on the data used. That makes the polls presented factual. Not necessarily, reliable.

  14. 57 Linda
    November 15, 2013 at 10:25 am

    By JULIE PACE, THE ASSOCIATED PRESS

    WASHINGTON (AP) — President Barack Obama, trying to rescue his much-criticized health care program, is set to discuss strategy with health insurance CEOs.

    The White House meeting scheduled for Friday comes after Obama announced a substantial change to the law. The president said Thursday that insurance companies can offer people another year of coverage under their existing plans. That’s because people have been losing coverage and haven’t been able to find new plans on the balky HealthCare.gov website.

    A White House official says Obama and senior aides will meet with CEOs to discuss helping people enroll in new plans and will talk about ways to minimize any disruptions as consumers switch to new plans. The official was not authorized to speak publicly in advance about the meeting and spoke on condition of anonymity.

  15. 59 0388jojothecat
    November 15, 2013 at 10:25 am

    Don’t forget GWB’s apology press conference for the bungling of Katrina and the media lambasting him for it day in and day out…..NOT!

  16. 60 Vicki
    November 15, 2013 at 10:31 am

    I view the escalating rage and attacks on our President with the same alarm as so many of us have been expressing here. The attacks are coming from evrywhere and they are vicious lies.

    When even my NYTimes is suggesting an equivalency to Katrina OMG! What can the response at TOD be?

    This is where our faith must come in to play. We remind ourselves that big corporate $$$ rule this country and President Obama’s announced fix yesterday unveils their greed and criminality. So the backlash will be intense. (They are meeting with PBO today.)

    Eventually however, more and more Americans will have healthcare that is good for themselves and their family. That is the change we’ve been working for. That is the prize our eyes have been on.

    As hf reminded us up-thread, or on the last thread—- future generations will understand what happened here in 2010-2014 and will respect President Barack Obama in a manner commensurate with his achievements.

    • 61 Vicki
      November 15, 2013 at 10:33 am

      I meant 2010 signing ACA- 2014 full implementation

    • November 15, 2013 at 10:51 am

      When I see all the abuse heaped on this President related to the Affordable Care Act – and all his efforts on behalf of those who are in need and under-represented for that matter – I shake my head and say, “No good deed goes unpunished.”

      And then I give thanks that Barack Obama was/is willing to put himself out there for our benefit.

      Just by his running for President, he gave hope to many. And by BEING President, he has made many of us who were asleep, wake up and pay attention. The outrageous and reckless behavior of the GOP and MSM is because they are having to work so much harder to TRY to get away with the things that use to be a given. His being President has given many the audacity to stand up for their rights and not quietly accept the wrongs that was once considered the norm.

  17. 63 Ladyhawke
    November 15, 2013 at 10:35 am

    No, Obama didn’t lie to you about your healthcare plan

    By Dean Baker

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    The plans being terminated because they don’t meet the minimal standards were all plans that insurers introduced after the passage of the ACA. Insurers introduced these plans knowing that they would not meet the standards that would come into effect in 2014. Insurers may not have informed their clients at the time they sold these plans that they would not be available after 2014 because they had designed a plan that did not comply with the ACA.

    However if the insurers didn’t tell their clients that the new plans would only be available for a short period of time, the blame would seem to rest with the insurance companies, not the ACA. After all, President Obama did not promise people that he would keep insurers from developing new plans that will not comply with the provisions of the ACA.

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    http://www.salon.com/2013/11/15/no_obama_didnt_lie_to_you_about_your_health_care_plan_partner/

  18. November 15, 2013 at 10:40 am

    GM TOD. Congrats on first *turtle* wonderful RS, Chips! ……. can somebody tell me when George Stepped-in-s**tolous said that idiocy?

    Itroduction video of Ambassador Kennedy to Japan

  19. 70 Eveingeorgia
    November 15, 2013 at 10:43 am

    Chips, please post Charles Pierce’s takedown of the OBAMACARE/KATRINA false equivalence. It is downright brutally masterful. Did not expect this from him!

  20. November 15, 2013 at 10:44 am

    Most comprehensive state-of-play of the Iran nuclear negotiations

    The P5+1 talks with Iran in Geneva late last week produced a lot of drama – foreign ministers unexpectedly clearing their schedules and flying in, reports of disunity among the P5+1 partners, post-midnight negotiating sessions, media speculation about a breakdown, and finger-pointing about whom to blame. One might have thought the negotiations on the Iran nuclear issue had hit a brick wall and were at the point of collapse.

    The reality is more tame. Although expectations had been raised for an announcement of a deal before the end of the week, the difficulties of managing a highly complex negotiation involving several independent and strong-willed countries in a compressed period of time became apparent. So, while making very impressive progress in just a few days, the talks could not quite come to closure. There will be another opportunity to do so in a week’s time….

  21. 73 Don
    November 15, 2013 at 10:49 am

    So Rangel tells President Obama that “An Apology Isn’t Worth A Damn At The Polls.” I remember the days when a Democratic President would get unwavering support from his party. I remember the days when the CBC would run down to the Whitehouse and comfort that Democratic President when that Democratic President got caught in so tawdry affair that was of his own making. Decade after decade the Democratic Party’s goal has been to achieve gay rights, marriage equality, and health care for all. If a Democratic President had achieved any one of those goals that Democratic President would be labeled a success, but if that Democratic President were to achieve all three, my god that Democratic President at the least would have his face up on Mount Rushmore. So one has to ask themself why this Democratic President isn’t held in high esteem by his own colleagues. What is it about this Democratic President that has made his own party rail against him?

    If one would take this Democratic President and assess his record of achievement and compare it against other Democratic President, and even dismiss half of his achievements as being achieved through pure luck. One would still come away with the conclusion that this President is still far and away better than any other Democratic President in the last one hundred years.

    Now let’s delve even deeper, let’s throw out race, and let us assume that this President’s color isn’t an issue. One is still left mystified by the treatment of this Democratic President by his own party. Is this President not liked because of his success, or is it his education, or is he not liked because he doesn’t bend towards tradition? Has this Democratic President broken some unwritten code that has left him out of favor with his own party?

    The Democratic Party has mistakenly assumed that this Democratic President takes is orders from them, but unbeknownst to them this President takes his orders from the voters, happily.

    • 74 Linda
      November 15, 2013 at 10:53 am

      Rep. Charles Rangel offers apology to supporters for ethics shenanigans

      Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/rep-charles-rangel-offers-apology-supporters-ethics-shenanigans-article-1.455791#ixzz2kjKUmGha

      It appears it worked for him……what a hypocrite

    • 75 LDS
      November 15, 2013 at 11:11 am

      Don, you are so correct in so many ways. It has gotten to the point where Charles Rangel is more of an embarrassment to look at, read about and see his name on the lever when I inside the poll both to vote. What is so wonderful about PBO is all of what you said above.but even more than that his appreciation of the voters has caused to me guard my vote with my heart as it if is is gold. I will NOT vote for every Tom, Dick and Harry who claims to be a Democrat. I just don’t believe any of them.
      Charles Rangel is the one “who isn’t worth a damn”for many years now. It is so sad that it has come to this. I cannot believe the so-called Democrats who are spineless and quiet, but they will knock you down to get a photo shot with PBO to take back and hang up in their respective offices. I am sick of them, the whole lot.
      PBO knows this and he still moves FOWARD for the people who voted for him and not for D.C.’s BS.
      Our eyes are wide open now and we will not go back. Ever!

    • 76 anniebella
      November 15, 2013 at 11:13 am

      I have long stop respecting Charlie Rangel.

    • 77 amk for obama
      November 15, 2013 at 11:19 am

      “The Democratic Party has mistakenly assumed that this Democratic President takes is orders from them, but unbeknownst to them this President takes his orders from the voters, happily.”

      This. That’s why the entire bw – from media to the pols to the pundwits hate him. He just doesn’t give a fuck about their corrupt creeds.

    • November 15, 2013 at 11:28 am

      “I remember the days when a Democratic President would get unwavering support from his party.”

      I think Jimmy Carter would disagree. A Dem House and Senate did a number on him. Senator Kennedy ran against him in the 1980 primary. A sitting President got a strong challenger from his own party. That’s insane.

      • 79 Don
        November 15, 2013 at 11:42 am

        Which is even more telling in that President Obama’s level of success on social issues is unparalleled, but yet he seems to receive the Dem’s backhand.

        • 80 ERICFIVE
          November 15, 2013 at 12:08 pm

          Notice how Rangel only gets access to the MSM microphone when he is talking shit about PBO? As for Rangel’s criticism, it is bogus, hypocritical and based on the fact that PBO thought he should resign due to his Harlem rent scandal. The fact that the ACA will disproportionately help many of the people in Rangel’s district get free or affordable health insurance only highlights how large a piece of shit Charlie Rangel is.

    • 81 hopefruit2
      November 15, 2013 at 12:05 pm

      Don, your spot-on comment ought to be front -paged. Chips or UT, can you front-page Don’s comment in the next post?! Eternal thanks! 🙂

  22. November 15, 2013 at 10:50 am

    There is a tendency when these kind of things happen to blame the correspondent whose voice and face was on the story, but whatever happened and however it happened, people in the corporate hierarchy of CBS News and leaders of the news division share at least as much of whatever blame there is to be as the correspondent, but they try to make it appear their fingerprints aren’t on it,” Rather said.

    “I just know this, that No. One, I’m always pulling for CBS News, and I hope they’ll be transparent, look into this and tell what they know and try to move on from it. No. Two, there is a difference between this and the trouble I got into at CBS News,” Rather said. “We got into trouble, that is I and the other reporters, because we reported a true story…the difficulty with this Benghazi story, that they now acknowledge, the story was not true, and they stood by it for a long time.”

  23. 83 Ladyhawke
    November 15, 2013 at 11:03 am

    Why Republicans Suddenly Care — Deeply! — About All Those Canceled Health Policies

    By Joe Conason

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    Amid the current national uproar over the troubles of the Affordable Care Act, it is almost uplifting to hear the deep concern expressed by politicians, pundits, lobbyists, and corporate leaders over cancelation of existing health insurance policies. They empathize loudly with the millions of potential victims, whose plight infuriates these worthy observers with fury. They fill hours of television and pages of print with expressions of outrage.

    Suddenly everyone in Washington is intensely concerned about Americans who are losing their health insurance.

    The outpouring of noble sentiment would be laudable — indeed, long overdue — if only there was any reason to believe these protestations are sincere. Sadly, the evidence points in the opposite direction, for a single obvious reason: Millions of people in this country have been losing health insurance for many years, resulting in untold thousands of serious illnesses, bankruptcies, and early deaths – but until insurance cancelations became a political embarrassment for Barack Obama, the usual right-wing reaction was silence. (Except for that awkward and revealing outburst during the Republican debates of 2012, when a live audience howled its approval for the “let him die” plan.)

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    http://www.nationalmemo.com/why-republicans-suddenly-care-deeply-about-all-those-canceled-health-policies/

    • November 15, 2013 at 11:24 am

      This is so true.

      I’m sure average Americans, who have known a setback or two in life, are scratching their heads and thinking, “Why is the media acting like we had the best medical insurance program in the world before Obamacare?” Americans with medical insurance know the premiums go up every year, yet the coverage go down and/or deductibles go up.

      If they’re thinking about Obamacare at all, they are most interested in the premium due date (Dec 15) and probably can’t figure out why all they’re hearing is about a website.

      MSM reality check – please step outside your Upper East (or West) side / Georgetown bubble and talk to real people — like your cabbies, your beauticians, your store clerks, your dry cleaners, etc. and find out what is important to them.

      Reminder — tweet from Oct 1:

      • 85 ERICFIVE
        November 15, 2013 at 12:30 pm

        I think a lot of people are missing the point with this latest MSM freak out. The MSM/GOP don’t care about the individual health insurance market. They don’t care about people losing their insurance or about premiums rising (this has been going on for decades under numerous Presidents, and not a peep). The MSM/GOP is not making all this noise because they care about the American people. Rather, the MSM/GOP is making all this ruckus and spreading all the false stories and assorted propaganda to help the GOP recover from the hit in the polls resulting from the government shutdown that Americans rightfully blame the GOP for (despite the MSM’s best efforts to blame PBO/Democrats). We go through this same shit over and over again, but the FACT that the MSM is corrupt and carries water for the GOP seems to be a premise some refuse to accept. This ACA hysteria is being blown way out of proportion, just like the NSA fake scandal, the Benghazi fake scandal, the IRS fake scandal, the birth certificate fake scandal, the Syria fake scandal, Umbrella-gate and Foot on desk-gate. I could go on, but you get my point. We are not dealing with honest brokers. We are dealing with propagandists that are following orders. That is why NO ONE is ever punished for spreading false stories. They are paid to deceive the American people and keep the heat and blame away from the GOP.

  24. November 15, 2013 at 11:04 am

    For LP and amk if he’s here…

    Dotster posted this yesterday afternoon; this is the most evocative, heartwarming and beautiful ad I’ve ever seen.

    I was in tears at the end of it.

    Reminds me of the Thai (I think) ad that was posted here months ago, but this is truly beautiful, and a reminder that the WWII era is quickly slipping from living memory.

  25. 88 Gazelle
    November 15, 2013 at 11:12 am

    [GM Mama Danny, TODers, all! Little red flags went off when I read this article on the guy who’s thinking about runnimg against Jerry Brown in CA. Isn’t it funny how Dems come in, fix everything, then R’s wangle their way in & leave everything in ruins?! Please CA folks, don’t do the Arnold, check this guy out thoroughly. It all sounds so manufactured, too busy creating a mask that would appeal to Californians. Who did he vote for in 2012? Key words: Goldman Sachs, TARP.]:

    But Kashkari – who is pro-choice, favors same-sex marriage rights and voted for Barack Obama in 2008 – is talking like a candidate on a mission to rebrand a California Republican Party that is tired of losing.

    “My focus is different from most candidates that we’ve seen, not just in California but around the country,” Kashkari said in his first major interview. “If we were to do this, we would run a campaign that is truly reaching out to people that Republicans don’t normally talk to.”

    […..]

    Kashkari said he has visited 80 communities to hear from Californians. He’s stayed overnight in an Oakland homeless shelter, visited free clinics, volunteered at food banks, worked on docks and in farm fields and worshiped at a Pentecostal church in south Los Angeles.

    He’s also talked with GOP leaders like former Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice and former Govs. Jeb Bush of Florida and Mitch Daniels of Indiana – whom he calls role models for their fiscal politics and reforms in areas like education – and consulted leading think tanks including the Hoover Institution.

    If the former Goldman Sachs vice president decides to run, he says, his campaign would be tightly focused on the “totally nonpartisan” issues of jobs and education.

    Political observers say the attention that GOP luminaries are lavishing on Kashkari – the son of Indian immigrants and a practicing Hindu – underscores the hunger for a new type of Republican in California, where the party holds no statewide offices.

    .
    More here: http://www.sfgate.com/politics/article/Neel-Kashkari-explores-GOP-bid-for-governor-4984033.php

    • November 15, 2013 at 11:35 am

      Not sure why you’re posting this here.

      ONLY pro-choice GOP have any chance at all in a statewide CA election. I’m not going to research when the last pro-life Governor was, but even Pete Wilson (confession: my childhood political hero) was pro-choice.

      There are so many things to worry about, but the 2014 CA Gov election is not relevant now.

      This is just another Corp news spin job (think of Lara Logan husband’s PR firm (with a $100 million US contact) to spin Iraqi media in favor of Pentagon talking points (PyschOps)).

      Even this story from Monday plants the seed of doubt as to whether Gov Brown can be re-elected. Puuuuleeeze.

      • 90 Gazelle
        November 15, 2013 at 12:03 pm

        Hi Arapaho415, I lived in CA & never thought Arnold would be voted in, but it happened. He was a corp creation too.

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  27. November 15, 2013 at 11:26 am

  28. 93 carolyn
    November 15, 2013 at 11:27 am

    I’m sure I get tiresome with one of my comments about why the Demo Sens and Reps are so inconstant in their support for PBO. It is all-out unadulterated envy. Seniority is admired and loved in both houses. PBO jumped over many Senators and reps. He did not serve a long time in the Senate, and skipped over the house.
    He is smarter than they are, he has a vision and a plan, he has amazing charisma….the pundits are the only ones who don’t feel it, he has warmth…just look at the top picture, etc…he is not impressed with money itself, or those with money, they hate that, and he is not in it for himself, in contrast to the others.
    So, you put together this entire package, as Jim Stuart calls him, an integral person, and those who KNOW they’re inferior can only degrade and demean him. These people never seem to learn that they do not damage him, they show themselves up for what they are.
    His quality will work the long run, yes, I believe it. Two years from now, his ratings will be very different, and those who fought against the ACA will have huge eggs all over their faces. As the poem says-, ‘The mills of the gods grind slow, but they grind exceedingly small.” (Longfellow)

    • November 15, 2013 at 11:40 am

      Add the MSM to your list.

      Each one of them have thought of themselves as the smartest person in the classroom or any room, for that matter.

      When faced with someone smarter, more empathic, more strategic (our President), they fall back to their default setting of publishing chorus of “Conventional Wisdom” as fact.

      Really hope that the CBS and NBC “chief” foreign and political directors are fired soon (Logan and Todd).

    • 95 dotster3
      November 15, 2013 at 11:45 am

      Great insight. Nailed it, as they say. Agree with every word.

  29. 96 yardarm756
    November 15, 2013 at 11:35 am


    And the rwnj’s are in their sand box.

  30. 103 LDS
    November 15, 2013 at 11:40 am

    Carolyn, thank you.
    Translation: They are ALL jealous of this special soul man. Spirited man. Caring man. Loving man. Family man. Anointed man. God loving man.
    They are doomed.

  31. 104 utaustinliberal
    November 15, 2013 at 11:55 am

    At last. It took an outcry from the family and others before anything happened. Shameful.

  32. 105 utaustinliberal
    November 15, 2013 at 11:56 am

  33. November 15, 2013 at 11:58 am

    Good morning everyone! Special hello to 57. I’ve about 30 minutes and couldn’t think of anyplace I’d rather spend it. Watching all the Obamacare foolishness has touched on every emotion I possess. In the end I think I settled on pissed…just plain pissed.

    I have always had independent insurance and when the President made the now famous declaration that, “You can keep your insurance”, I never assumed he was talking to me, but people who are insured through their employers. It never occurred to me because:

    Contrary to the popular lie, Obamacare is not a government takeover, so the President was in no position to legitimately make such a claim…and I know he isn’t a liar and my premium, and/or benefits change every year….every year.

    But the most important reason I knew was because that’s what the ACA says. The ACA states that policies can be retained as long as the insurer did not make significant changes to premiums or benefits and it defines in specifics and percentages. Sorry, I don’t have time to find it in the bill, but trust that my recollection is clear because it applied to me.

    This is a real source of annoyance for me with the Democrats and the all-knowing punditry. I keep wondering why they have not once uttered that fact. And to think Dems have the nerve to say the President doesn’t have their backs…they don’t have his!

    I think the President is gambling that once the website is fixed most of these stupid whiners will transfer to the exchanges, otherwise, I’m a little lost.

  34. 107 donna dem 4 obama
    November 15, 2013 at 12:00 pm

    Hello TOD – TGIF!

    Just stopping by to leave you this… 🙂

    • November 15, 2013 at 5:55 pm

      Funny! Thought of the similarity myself due to seeing several U-Tube selections of Christie acting obnoxious to someone asking him a question. I wonder if he can hide that or change that during a Presidential run? I imagine that winning the highest office in the land would accelerate this behavior though. Lucky for him he won’t ever have to worry about that problem!

  35. 110 utaustinliberal
    November 15, 2013 at 12:01 pm

  36. 113 utaustinliberal
    November 15, 2013 at 12:06 pm

  37. 114 utaustinliberal
    November 15, 2013 at 12:08 pm

  38. 115 vcprezofan2
    November 15, 2013 at 12:10 pm

    Rats! My leaf-gathering helpers have arrived so I have no excuse not to make use of the help. BBL

  39. 116 utaustinliberal
    November 15, 2013 at 12:11 pm

  40. November 15, 2013 at 12:13 pm

    One last thing…regarding polling. It occurred to me that I have lived my entire life in Chicago and one the East Coast. I never received a call from a pollster…never knew anyone, who knew anyone who did. Since I’ve been in Kansas, coming upon a year…I’ve been polled 6 times. Go figure?

  41. 119 hopefruit2
    November 15, 2013 at 12:28 pm

    This letter should be posted, read and spread!!!

  42. 125 Gazelle
    November 15, 2013 at 12:37 pm

    [This sounds familiar! I’m just pasting the steps, w/out author’s descriptions for each step.]:

    Zimbabwe: Mr. Mugabe’s seven steps to successful election rigging:

    Step one: Begin the rigging process well in advance.

    Step two: Allow superficial democratic reforms, but keep big-ticket items off the negotiating table.

    Step three: Take control of the state media.

    Step four: Stack the courts with supporters who will uphold your constitutionally questionable decisions.

    Step five: Seize control of the election machinery and make sure that your rigged triumph is plausible.

    Step six: Avoid the use of violence at all costs.

    Step seven: Declare that the people have spoken, and do not look back.

    .
    http://www.csmonitor.com/World/Africa/Africa-Monitor/2013/1115/Zimbabwe-Mr.-Mugabe-s-seven-steps-to-successful-election-rigging


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