A Tweet or Two


















113 Responses to “A Tweet or Two”

  1. 1 Asher in Boston
    November 15, 2013 at 2:21 pm


  2. November 15, 2013 at 2:24 pm

    End of the last thread: Heads up for this weekend and Monday night.

  3. 6 hopefruit2
    November 15, 2013 at 2:26 pm

    I notice that some people have been expressing grief at the 39 or so Democrats who voted with the R’s on the Upton bill. I think we need to be careful in our reactions to these largely symbolic votes – which are more political maneuvers to ensure seat retention, rather than a vote to defeat ACA. The Upton bill will die in the Senate or be vetoed. So it’s not going anywhere. These D votes are not decisive – they are symbolic.

    The midterms are coming up and we want to gain the House, not start a divisive war that will fragment the Dems and leave them even more vulnerable in 2014 and 2016.

    • 7 Jziglar
      November 15, 2013 at 2:32 pm

      I agree. The vote was largely symbolic and the bill is dead in the senate.

    • 8 Vicki
      November 15, 2013 at 3:06 pm

      Well put,hf. I entirely agree.

    • 9 jackiegrumbacher
      November 15, 2013 at 4:14 pm

      HF, it’s a waste of time to focus on these Dems, as you say. If it were really serious, Pelosi would have made their lives miserable. The Blue dog Dem our district lost due to redistricting would have happily joined in the 39 number to “ensure” his seat. He voted against ACA , despite our relentless pleas to him. None of his votes earned him the gratitude of the Republicans in the state house who took his district away from him. These votes won’t help the 39 either, but it makes them feel they’ve done all they can.

  4. 11 Gazelle
    November 15, 2013 at 2:30 pm

    [DiFi needs to take lotsa notes from Nancy! 🙂 ]:

    Politico is grieved by her refusal to roll over like a proper Repub-fearing Democrat, but I {heart} Nancy Pelosi, and her stalwart fellows:

    In a news conference Thursday after a meeting with White House officials, the top four Democrats said they won’t apologize for that promise, instead defending the language of the Affordable Care Act — their prized legislative achievement.

    House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.), who shepherded Obamacare through the House as speaker, said Obama was “very gracious” in making that apology but that the president’s words – in the context of the law – were “absolutely” precise.

    “There’s nothing in the Affordable Care Act that says that your insurance company should cancel you,” she told reporters. “That’s not what the Affordable Care Act is about. It simply didn’t happen.”…

    Because she is a responsible adult Representative and not a lowly blogger, she did not add “All of you Media Village Idiots are free to kiss as much of my arse as you can reach from under your rock”, but I do believe the MVIs got the message.

    Video here too: http://www.balloon-juice.com/2013/11/15/open-thread-the-grownups-in-the-room/

    • 12 jackiegrumbacher
      November 15, 2013 at 4:18 pm

      Love, love, love Nancy Pelosi–the classiest person in politics. And I love how she said the president was “very gracious.” The media probably doesn’t know how to spell that word, let alone recognize graciousness when they see it.

  5. 13 Asher in Boston
    November 15, 2013 at 2:33 pm

    Thanks. Been busy but lurking most of the time. Come here everyday and read all your posts and comments, by the time I’m thru, it’s hard to catch up on commenting. Well, I’m done with the MSM. As for chuck todd, he can kiss my arse. These people really hate the President so much that they completely don’t care for all that need health insurance. What a bunch of fools. Guys, if it wasn’t for TOD, most of us would be in an asylum somewhere, due to the hate, lies and misinformation from the lame stream media. I don’t curse because I’m a nice African young lady, hahaha, but of recent, I’ve been cursing like a drunken sailor. How is everyone?

    • 14 jackiegrumbacher
      November 15, 2013 at 4:24 pm

      Asher, first of all the very best remedy for not getting angered by the media, is to stop watching or reading. They’re in a ‘pile on’ right now and are actually overdoing it to such an extent that it’s going to boomerang on them. No major change has ever taken place in this country without severe convulsions and obstruction from those who fear they have something to lose. They’re not getting the president to back away from ACA and they’re not getting him to plead for their “understanding,” which is making them more and more enraged. The spittle-flecked hatred that spews from the mouths of most commentators is so over the top and outrageous, it’s getting close to comedy now. I suggest ridicule as the best anti asylum medicine you can take.

  6. November 15, 2013 at 2:34 pm

    Congrats on 1st Asher.

    Thank you Chips!!

    Daily reminder to Senator Reid that we will not relent in demanding he stop enabling the #GOP minority to obstruct our government.

    Yes We Can

  7. 16 jacquelineoboomer
    November 15, 2013 at 2:35 pm

    Great tweets, Chips, although the topics are sickening, of course.

  8. 17 utaustinliberal
    November 15, 2013 at 2:35 pm

    Great selection, Chiparoo.

  9. 18 hopefruit2
    November 15, 2013 at 2:36 pm

  10. November 15, 2013 at 2:38 pm

    A former senior Obama Administration official told the House Foreign Affairs Committee today that the deal proposed to Iran by the P5+1 countries in Geneva last weekend would “double Iran’s breakout time.”

    “The bigger risk is to escalate the sanctions at a sensitive moment of diplomacy and watch diplomacy careening off the cliff,” Kahl warned.

  11. 20 Gazelle
    November 15, 2013 at 2:38 pm

    [This has to be one of the sweetest, coolest stories I’ve read! 🙂 ]:

    Five-year-old Miles already has experience fighting villains – he’s been facing off with acute lymphoblastic leukemia since he was 20 months old.

    With his cancer in remission and his last bout of chemotherapy finished in June, his biggest wish was to continue living his life heroically. “He wanted to be Batman,” said Patricia Wilson, the Make-A-Wish Foundation’s Bay Area executive director.

    We can do that, Wilson thought, and she began putting the call out to volunteers to help turn San Francisco into Gotham City for a day for the boy from Tulelake (Siskiyou County).

    It might as well have been a worldwide Bat-Signal. Word of the foundation’s efforts spread quickly on social media, and soon what started as a small effort to make a 5-year-old boy a hero for the day turned into a citywide extravaganza, with support and volunteers coming in from all over.

    On Friday, by Make-A-Wish’s count, thousands of volunteers will cheer on “Batkid” as he defeats the Riddler and the Penguin at locations around San Francisco. The mayor will present Miles with a key to the city. Police Chief Greg Suhr will step in as Commissioner Gordon to alert Miles when his heroics are needed.

    More here: http://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/article/Thousands-of-volunteers-to-welcome-Batkid-to-S-F-4984043.php

  12. November 15, 2013 at 2:54 pm

    O/T Wonderful gesture by San Francisco….

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  13. November 15, 2013 at 3:10 pm

  14. November 15, 2013 at 3:23 pm

    Afternoon, Obots!

    Going to be out of pocket most of the afternoon, but I may have some VERY GOOD, and VERY BREAKING news when I get back later. Stay frost, everyone.

  15. 37 utaustinliberal
    November 15, 2013 at 3:26 pm

    The coolest thing ever!

    • November 15, 2013 at 5:59 pm

      This all went down around the corner from where I live!
      What a crazy, moving day for this little boy.
      Lots and lots of my neighbors really came out to cheer him on.
      Lots of moments of being very choked up.
      All in all, a wonderful day for the thousands involved in organizing and carrying it out and for San Francisco.

      • 39 jacquelineoboomer
        November 15, 2013 at 6:20 pm

        I’m so happy you were such a close part of that, meta! I’m choked up just thinking of it. Well done, SF!

        • 40 Sandee
          November 15, 2013 at 6:27 pm

          Job, thanks! The Humana story is what sparked my misgivings actually. Our Hq is in Ca but that shouldn’t really be a factor. Suspect it’s the insurer in Tx. Meeting next week and we will be asking some pointed questions for sure

  16. 42 Nena20409
    November 15, 2013 at 3:26 pm

    Jay “Clark Kent” Carney’s presser 11-15-13


  17. 43 utaustinliberal
    November 15, 2013 at 3:27 pm

  18. 44 Nena20409
    November 15, 2013 at 3:29 pm

    Robert Bruce Ford, the Mayor of Toronto, Canada seriously needs professional help

  19. 45 utaustinliberal
    November 15, 2013 at 3:30 pm

    Where do they get these teachers?

  20. 48 mtmarilyn
    November 15, 2013 at 3:42 pm

    I am listening to Randi Rhodes and the company changed their minds and gave her a new contract. It is great to hear that a liberal voice on the radio will not be silenced. I am so happy.

    • 49 Nena20409
      November 15, 2013 at 3:49 pm

      That is great News. Her voice is important especially in the 92% Radio dominance with the RWNJ talk hate hosts.

    • 50 COS
      November 15, 2013 at 3:53 pm

      I agree MTM. Sometime she anthers can disappoint us but overall she has one of the best liberal substantive shows out there. Bill Press is fair weather. He has to many HuffPo and Politico folks on his show. He also like to star mess and controversy.

      • 51 mtmarilyn
        November 15, 2013 at 4:20 pm

        I use to really like Bill Press, now I can’t even listen to him. Having those Politico and others on the show and the way he went off on the Attorney General ended my ever listening to him. There has been afew times when I couldn’t listen to Randi, but for the most part she really knows her stuff. Out of all the radio people I really like the way she talks to the trolls. She knows where to go for the information. I do learn alot on her show and from her website. Her home work site is so informative.

  21. 53 Nena20409
    November 15, 2013 at 3:54 pm


    The Obama administration has said that HealthCare.gov will be “working smoothly for the vast majority of users” by the end of November. They’ve brought in Jeff Zients, a former corporate executive, to save the ailing website from its disastrous launch. So how are they doing?

    They’re making serious progress, Zients said on a Friday conference call with reporters.

    The administration is judging its improvement by two metrics, Zients said: the website’s response times and its error rates. In other words, how long it takes a page to load for users and how often users encounter a crash or error page.

    And Yet, the Verbiages used by the media are Disastrous, Failed, unworkable, etc.
    they have refused to update their audiences with any GOOD news as daily reported.

    Oh yeah, Chuck Todd told Us that it is not his job to report facts.

  22. 55 Nena20409
    November 15, 2013 at 4:00 pm


    And Yet another Record numbers from the DOW

  23. November 15, 2013 at 4:36 pm

    Hello all. I’ve been wanting to ask about this and just finally have the time to share the link and ask for a response. It is in regards to the TPP (free trade agreement). I am going to share a link…..one of a few I found but all saying basically the same thing. Ed has talked about this for weeks and had a number of labor folks on his show and also had Rep. George Miller (CA) earlier this week to talk about it. Rep. Miller is opposed and I know he gave the number of how many Dems have signed a letter stating their strong opposition. I would really like some response or explanation from some of the folks here.


  24. 60 hopefruit2
    November 15, 2013 at 4:45 pm

    ROTFLMAO!!! Here is a compilation of some of the various times in which the media tried to dub a number of events “Obama’s Katrina.” It’s funny and yet disturbing the media’s long-standing obsession to drive the Obama=Bush meme… Here are just a few excerpts..you can find the fuller context by reading the article linked below.

    1. BP Oil Spill
    “[I]t’s getting baked in a little bit in the media that BP was President Obama’s Katrina.” [NBC News, Brian Williams, 8/29/10].

    2. Bank Bailout
    // Unless and until Barack Obama addresses the full depth of Americans’ anger with his full arsenal of policy smarts and political gifts, his presidency and, worse, our economy will be paralyzed. It would be foolish to dismiss as hyperbole the stark warning delivered by Paulette Altmaier of Cupertino, Calif., in a letter to the editorpublished by The Times last week: ‘President Obama may not realize it yet, but his Katrina moment has arrived.’” [New York Times, Frank Rich, 3/21/09] //

    3. Benghazi Consulate Attack And The IRS
    // This is President Obama’s Katrina moment. If he cannot regain control of the narrative, he will face the same loss of public confidence suffered by President Bush.” [Baltimore Sun, 5/19/13, Todd Eberly] //

    4. Hurricane Sandy
    // David Lee Miller of a public housing unit in New Jersey, and — I’m sorry, in Brooklyn — devastated. This is Obama’s Katrina. //

    5. Unemployment
    // “‘Will The Unemployment Crisis Be Obama’s Katrina?’ ….Just as Katrina exposed critical weaknesses in the priorities and competence of the Bush administration, the unfolding unemployment disaster is threatening to do the same for the Obama White House.” [Huffington Post, Arianna Huffington, 11/23/09] //


  25. 63 dotster3
    November 15, 2013 at 4:51 pm

    I was wondering today if the msm personalities were under threat of sudden death if they did not say Obamacare and Katrina were the same, same, same. In addition to all I heard about here, whenever I had the TV on today someone would be saying Katrina. There’s David Gregory saying it with a smirk on his face, click, there’s someone on CNN saying it, click. It’s just amazing that when one news personality (and that’s what I’m calling them, not journalist) says something, no matter how idiotic, they all say it now. It’s like one talking point comes down from on high and all the lazy, unethical bums run with it. No one seems to care any more about fact or truth or taking a momentary pause to consider the sensibility of what they’re reporting. They just blast it out there, with abandon.

  26. 64 hopefruit2
    November 15, 2013 at 5:07 pm

    Dante de Blasio, Malia Obama named to TIME’s ‘most influential teens’

    // Dante de Blasio and Malia Obama were named to TIME magazine’s list of most influential teens Tuesday. The 16-year-old, afro-sporting son of New York City mayor-elect Bill de Blasio was listed at no. 6. while Malia was ranked at no. 10. The two teens were listed among other influential youngsters including Malala Yousafzai, who came in at no. 7 and Justin Beiber, who was listed at no. 12.

    Malia, 15, along with her sister Sasha, 12, were recognized for their poise and maturity — much of which TIME credits to Michelle Obama. //


    • 65 jacquelineoboomer
      November 15, 2013 at 5:57 pm

      Full honors to those you named on the list, but once we are reminded that Justin Beiber is almost as “influential” as they are, it tells another tale. Of course, with our celebrity culture – which is ageless – no wonder.

  27. 66 Nena20409
    November 15, 2013 at 5:08 pm


    Why is this guy still has a job?

    Only the Parliament or the Queen can remove him from office?

    • 67 99ts
      November 15, 2013 at 7:27 pm

      In my world the State government could remove him from office and replace the city government with an administrator. I don’t know if the process works the same way in Canada

  28. November 15, 2013 at 5:09 pm

    I wish for all the world that a survivor of Katrina who has recently gone to the ACA website and purchased insurance would come out publically (although with our current media – where?) and say, no way man is the sometimes difficulty signing onto a website in any way comparable to Katrina. I was there. I lived through it. I suffered and there was no one (and no government) to help me or say they would fix it.

  29. 69 Nena20409
    November 15, 2013 at 5:17 pm

    Precious Moments 🙂

  30. 71 dotster3
    November 15, 2013 at 5:18 pm

    I really wish msnbc shows like ed and al would not spend so much of their programs airing the insane comments of the rt. wing opposition. Why not show PBO’s comments from appearances earlier in the day that many likely missed? And/or air the comments of any Dem supporters (other than Chris Van Hollen, it’s tough to find any in Congress, but there are others who make some smart comments every day), anyone defending Obamacare etc. I just don’t think repeat airings of the commnts of the crazy people is helpful. Ex. Ed just showed a clip from Morning Joke with Nicole Wallace saying Obamacare might be worse than Katrina because Katrina was a natural event and Obamacare was PBO’s own making! And then Ron Fournier chimes in saying maybe the Bush Admin.’s Iraq War would be a better comparison to Obamacare. OMG. Those insane comments did not deserve a 2nd airing.

    • 72 COS
      November 15, 2013 at 5:40 pm

      I totally agree Dotster. Rev. Al has a tendency to show the same old comments of Limbaugh and others over and over and over.

    • 73 Vicki
      November 15, 2013 at 5:41 pm

      I hear you, dotster. Many days it seems like all of television news could be called “The RW NewsHour.”
      MSNBC highlights Republicans one way or another. Even if it is criticism, still the repubs get the air time.
      No matter what the topic we are forced to see it through RW eyes.

      The Corporations own the media and make sure that showing their interests to best advantage is what gets on the screen.
      They tell the Corporate Story by any means necessary. If truth doesn’t support them, than they go right ahead and lie.

      Folks who won’t play by these rules get their mikes taken away.

      • 74 jacquelineoboomer
        November 15, 2013 at 5:52 pm

        That is so well said, Vicki. ” … we are forced to see it through RW eyes.” Mind if I borrow that, here and there, maybe a gazillion times, in some future tweets to the so-called “news” types?

    • 78 EDP4BHO
      November 15, 2013 at 7:11 pm

      I so agree with you.

  31. 79 africa
    November 15, 2013 at 5:53 pm

  32. 80 Sandee
    November 15, 2013 at 5:56 pm

    Hi! Bringing part of my comment (48) from last thread, to say thanks Hf2, Don, JudithF. Left note for you there as well. I do not mean to over react, but what happened at my hubby’s work today has me very suspicious over another mislead by insurance company. Employees notified today by CFO that our group coverage was being negotiated early by BCBSOFTX . Keep current Plan for modest 4% increase since Jan 2014 would mean a 34% increase to “…postpone the more punitive impacts of the ACA as currently written” . So we all have to quickly confirm our plans. The memo also states “…after 1/1/2014 must comply with the stringent requirements of the Act” and “as you have undoubtedly seen in the news, the cost of compliant coverage is significantly higher than the pre-Act coverage”. We thought we had compliant coverage, with reasonable co pays, deductible, meds, maternity, etc. so this is a big surprise to the employees. With all the misleading info insurers are putting out, I am very suspicious. Asked hubby to pin them down on what exactly about the current policy doesn’t comply. BCBSofTx is a big player here, so will tons of other companies be sending out notices like this too? If so there will be an uproar those of us who are full on supporters will have to tamp down. If hubby’s co is being purposefully led astray, I want to expose it! Wondered if any of you had seen or heard of this relating to group plans via employers or if it’s just biz as usual in TX. BTW, I’m here every day, comment seldom, but depend on you all for your great info and calming spirits. I try to do my part by RTing as many of you as I can (@sanpptx) in case you’ve seen me! Not usually a nervous nelly, but this deal today has me concerned on multiple levels. Off now to start dinner. BBL

    • 81 jacquelineoboomer
      November 15, 2013 at 6:04 pm

      I don’t have it in front of me, but wasn’t Humana just fined big (somewhat) bucks for misleading people about the ACA? This sounds like something similar – and I’m wondering if BCBS is doing that in all the states they cover? Seems as though that would be a big corporate decision, rather than just local. (Sorry this isn’t much help – but something sounds crooked to me!)

      • November 15, 2013 at 7:07 pm

        Each state has their own regulations, some more stringent than others regarding rate increases, minimum coverage required, etc. I’m not sure what TX regulations are, but I would bet that their standards are not as high as a state like CA. I suspect that insurance companies take advantage of these more lax regulations which is one of the reasons the prices, even in the exchanges, vary from state to state.

    • 83 desertflower
      November 15, 2013 at 7:01 pm


      Across the country, insurance companies have sent misleading letters to consumers, trying to lock them into the companies’ own, sometimes more expensive health insurance plans rather than let them shop for insurance and tax credits on the Obamacare marketplaces — which could lead to people like Donna spending thousands more for insurance than the law intended. In some cases, mentions of the marketplace in those letters are relegated to a mere footnote, which can be easily overlooked.

      The extreme lengths to which some insurance companies are going to hold on to existing customers at higher price, as the Affordable Care Act fundamentally re-orders the individual insurance market, has caught the attention of state insurance regulators.

      The insurance companies argue that it’s simply capitalism at work. But regulators don’t see it that way. By warning customers that their health insurance plans are being canceled as a result of Obamacare and urging them to secure new insurance plans before the Obamacare launched on Oct. 1, these insurers put their customers at risk of enrolling in plans that were not as good or as affordable as what they could buy on the marketplaces.

      TPM has confirmed two specific examples where companies contacted their customers prior to the marketplace’s Oct. 1 opening and pushed them to renew their health coverage at a higher price than they would pay through the marketplace. State regulators identified the schemes, but they weren’t necessarily able to stop them.

      Read the whole thing…and it’s TX for goodness sakes! What do YOU THINK:) ?? If it sounds fishy, it probably is.

      • 84 Sandee
        November 15, 2013 at 8:17 pm

        Tx being what it is these days, it stinks like more rotten fish to me. Will keep trying to get some honest answers, since we just heard from a coworkers wife, saying their office received the same edict today as well. Renew now or pay a lot more in 2014 . I will probably be hearing more from others who have BCBSOFTX through their work as days go by (unfortunately) but will keep trying to find out just WHY. Thanks

  33. 85 africa
    November 15, 2013 at 5:59 pm

  34. 86 africa
    November 15, 2013 at 6:01 pm

  35. 87 hopefruit2
    November 15, 2013 at 6:06 pm

    So cool!

  36. 89 carolyn
    November 15, 2013 at 6:07 pm

    I’m just so glad POTUS and FLOTUS get the chance to attend a basketball game Sunday! If ever a couple deserves a good break, they are the couple. I hope they have a very good, relaxing time!

  37. 90 africa
    November 15, 2013 at 6:08 pm

  38. 95 Jovie
    November 15, 2013 at 6:28 pm


  39. 96 carolyn
    November 15, 2013 at 6:30 pm

    OKAY EVERYONE……I’ll tell you where that 38% approval number for the president came from: You.Gov. That is an internet, self-selected poll. I am on that list, and filled out that survey. I do every time one comes to me. I just read the email wherein they cited the papers and news media that quoted the result of that survey. Now, that is not a scientifically random survey. I imagine the majority of the people who have the time and interest to fill that out are older white folks like me. I know my young daughter-in-law and people like her would not bother…..they are too BUSY!!!
    So…..I do not believe that poll is in any way an accurate of any group except the older white demographic.
    There are no crosstabs or any other info. Congress gets a low approval rating too, but this is not a legitimate poll as far as I’m concerned. Self-selection is not an accurate polling.

    • 97 carolyn
      November 15, 2013 at 6:32 pm

      I think we need input from Bob, UT, LL……and all the others who know how to investigate this. This poll has stunk to me from the announcement.

      • 98 utaustinliberal
        November 15, 2013 at 6:50 pm

        Hmmm…thanks for bringing it up Carolyn. You.Gov is looking and sounding very suspicious. Someone on TOD posted a Yahoo News article this morning where a majority of people said they trusted Fox News for unbiased ObamaCare reporting. I decided to read the article and found out it was conducted by You.Gov and heavily weighted Republicans, had no credible methodology, cross tabs, sample size, etc. When you have a poll that over-samples Republicans in such a biased manner, of course you’ll have a result that says people trust Fox News.

        I call nonsense on their polls and approval rating of 38% for President Obama. I don’t believe there’s any scientific validity.

        • 99 hopefruit2
          November 15, 2013 at 7:04 pm

          You gov is a GOP-affiliated polling outfit. They push polls to coincide with anti-Obama media narratives – they did the same after PBO’s first debate in 2012, and had polls showing him way below Romney, even leading by double-digits among women.

          • 100 carolyn
            November 15, 2013 at 8:28 pm

            Glad to know that about you.gov. This is where the poll came from giving the president his low rating. I never heard any of the pundits cite a source for the poll…never heard Gallup, Rasmussen, PPP….or anything. They just blanket accepted this poll…..and now we know it does not represent the country as a whole. As I said…..my demographic, older white women take these polls. We have the time, and if it goes to Republican minded people…..well…..I never knew that, thanks.

  40. 101 hopefruit2
    November 15, 2013 at 6:35 pm

    It takes someone of courage and substance like Joy Reid to call out the media.

  41. 102 utaustinliberal
    November 15, 2013 at 6:46 pm


    • November 15, 2013 at 7:16 pm

      Four claps for these UT. No wonder Joy Reid doesn’t have her own show, as far as I know (I’m somewhat out of the loop these days). She calls out her very own colleagues on their ridiculous bs.

  42. November 15, 2013 at 6:52 pm

    For weeks I’ve been wondering why no one is talking about how Republicans sabotaged the ACA rollout by refusing to implement state run marketplaces, and thus unexpectedly forcing all of that additional burden on to the federal website.

    It reminded me of Republicans denying security funding for Benghazi and then blaming Obama and Clinton for the lack of security in Benghazi. The media were oddly uninterested in that alarming fact.

  43. 106 vcprezofan2
    November 15, 2013 at 7:09 pm

  44. 110 hopefruit2
    November 15, 2013 at 7:17 pm

  45. 113 jacquelineoboomer
    November 15, 2013 at 7:17 pm

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