Rise and Shine

On This Day: President Obama looks at the view from the InterContinental Yokohama Grand Hotel in Yokohama, Japan, Nov. 13, 2010 (Photo by Pete Souza)


Today (all times Eastern):

10:50: President Obama and VP Biden meet with faith leaders

1:30: Dr Jill Biden delivers remarks at event titled “Improving Veterans’ College Graduation Rates” hosted by Google at the Army and Navy Club in Washington

2:15: Jay Carney briefs the press

3:30: President Obama delivers remarks at the 2013 Tribal Nations Conference at the Department of Interior



A small group of faith leaders will meet with President Barack Obama, Vice President Joe Biden and top staffers Valerie Jarrett, Cecilia Munoz and Melissa Rogers today to map strategy to push the GOP-controlled House to pass immigration reform. According to a White House official, here are the faith leaders who will be at the meeting:

· Leith Anderson, President, National Association of Evangelicals

· Eusebio Elizondo, Auxiliary Bishop, Archdiocese of Seattle

· Joel Hunter, Senior Pastor, Northland Church, Orlando, FL

· Hyepin Im, President and CEO, Korean Churches for Community Development, Los Angeles, CA

· Mike McClenahan, Senior Pastor, Solana Beach Presbyterian Church, Solana Beach, CA

· Russell Moore, President, Southern Baptist Ethics and Religious Liberty Commission, Nashville, TN

· Gabriel Salguero, President, National Latino Evangelical Coalition

· Jim Wallis, President and CEO, Sojourners



Igor Volsky: ‘If You Like Your Plan, You Can Keep It’ Is Easier Said Than Done

Flooded with news stories and constituent calls from Americans losing their health care plans, a bipartisan group of lawmakers have proposed seemingly easy solutions that they say will allow everyone keep their existing insurance coverage. On Friday, the House will consider such a measure, spearheaded by Rep. Fred Upton (R-MI). Several Democrats in vulnerable districts are expected to back the effort. On Tuesday, even Bill Clinton threw his support behind the change and Sen. Dianne Feinstein (D-CA) said she would vote for similar legislation being introduced in the Senate by Mary Landrieu (D-LA).

But lawmakers who have fought for years to enact a law that expands health care coverage to sick people, overcame almost insurmountable legislative hurdles, and survived a constitutional challenge before the Supreme Court, should be wary of supporting measures that take away key consumer protections from millions of Americans and increase costs for millions more.

The truth is, letting everyone in the individual health care market maintain their existing coverage would have real consequences for health care reform.

More here



Jim Stuart: What’s Trying to Emerge?

I think a successful ACA is trying to emerge, through the fog of political war. Do not think the GOP can reverse the process; the policy fundamentals are in place. For me the question is not whether a working ACA will emerge, but when this will be recognized….

…. I, too, worry about the website, the slow enrollment uptake, the GOP onslaught, and their and the MSM’s total assurance that the ACA is and will remain an unmitigated catastrophe. But the facts on the ground tell me that major seeds have been planted, that they will not be dug up, that they will, now planted, grow naturally into a splendid harvest that will not be prevented.

Republicans are making a fatal and permanent mistake in seeking all-out to destroy the ACA with no attempt to replace it with something that could address the same issue of the uninsured.

…. So what is trying to emerge from the fog of political war? A gold mine of help to the poor and the middle class, and to the country’s economy by helping to tame healthcare costs; and this gold mine is the much maligned ACA!

Full post here


Steve Benen: The Keep Your Health Plan Act

Over the weekend, The Hill published an interesting piece suggesting congressional Republicans, who had been fully committed to repealing the entirety of the Affordable Care Act since its inception, have “shifted their strategy.”

The “pivot,” the article said, was from repealing the health care to law to helping “fix” it through something called the Keep Your Health Plan Act, sponsored by Energy and Commerce Committee Chairman Fred Upton (R-Mich.). “The GOP,” The Hill reported, “wants to rebuild its political capital and public credibility by solving ObamaCare’s implementation problems.”

With respect to The Hill, whose reporting I rely on frequently, the piece was a little naive. To think that House Republicans, a month after shutting down the government over a health care law they hate with blinding rage, suddenly want to improve the Affordable Care Act is hard to take seriously. Upton’s Keep Your Health Plan Act is about a partisan game to undermine the law and put Democrats on the defensive – and little else.

More here



Igor Volsky: 6 Reasons Why Obamacare Enrollment Is Going Better Than You Think

The Wall Street Journal reported on Monday that between 40,000 and 50,000 uninsured Americans signed up for health care coverage in the 36 states where the federal government is running the Obamacare exchanges. But the initial estimate doesn’t tell the whole story about how many people are connecting to coverage. Here is what you need to know about the enrollment figures

More than 500,000 have signed up for insurance overall. Avalere Health, a consulting firm tracking sign-ups, estimates that at least 440,000 people have signed up for Medicaid and another 49,000 people enrolled in coverage in 12 states and the District of Columbia that are operating their own exchanges. Significantly, that state number don’t appear to include enrollment from California, Massachusetts, or Oregon. Thus, all told, more than 529,000 have enrolled in coverage.

More here


Sahil Kapur: Red State Dems Push Reforms That Would Damage Obamacare

A trio of face-saving changes to Obamacare proposed by conservative Democratic senators would do significant damage to the law, according to health policy experts.

Sen. Mary Landrieu (D-LA) wants to make sure people can keep their insurance plans even if they fail to meet basic benefit standards under Obamacare. Sen. Joe Manchin (D-WV) wants to delay by one year the tax penalty for failing to comply with the individual mandate. And ten Democrats want to give people more time to enroll on the exchanges.

“I think each of these [proposals] would be significantly disruptive to the law’s goals,” said Tim Jost, a professor at Washington and Lee University and leading expert on Obamacare.

More here


Sara Kliff: One In 10 Veterans Lacks Health Insurance. Obamacare Could Change That

The Veterans Administration operates the country’s largest health-care system. It has more than 1,700 hospitals and clinics across the country. Doctors there had about 50 million appointments with veterans in 2012. This sweeping system does not, however, cover everyone: One in 10 veterans lacks health insurance.

Haley and Kenney wrote a follow-up paper in March 2013, looking at what the Affordable Care Act would mean for uninsured veterans. They estimate that about 40 percent of uninsured veterans earn less than 138 percent of the federal poverty line (about $15,000 for an individual) and would therefore qualify for Medicaid, if their state had opted to expand the program.

More here



Eugene Robinson: The Country Is Doing Better Than You Think

The economy is growing much more quickly than expected. Inflation is basically nonexistent. The federal budget deficit has been slashed dramatically. The stock market is reaching all-time highs. One of our long-running wars is over, and the other is winding down. The status of the United States as the world’s preeminent economic and military power is unchallenged.

Last week’s announcement that the U.S.economy grew at a 2.8 percent annual rate in the third quarter was stunning. That news was followed by the October employment numbers, which were also promising: a total of 204,000 new jobs. The federal deficit for fiscal 2013 was just $680 billion. That sounds like a lot of money — all right, it is a lot of money — but it’s an incredible 37 percent less than the deficit for fiscal 2012.

If you listen to President Obama’s critics, especially his Republican adversaries on Capitol Hill, you’d think the economy was wheezing its last gasps. But investors obviously disagree, since the Dow closed Monday at a record high — and has nearly doubled since Obama took office. Put simply, money talks. 

More here


President Obama signs the Tribal Law and Order Act joined by congressional and tribal leaders at a bill signing ceremony in the East Room at the White House in Washington on July 29, 2010


ABC: Tribal Leaders Thank Obama For Redskins Comments

Native American leaders used a meeting at the White House on Tuesday to thank President Barack Obama for wading into the controversy over the Washington Redskins team name and voicing his concern that the nickname was offensive.

Ray Halbritter of the Oneida Nation, which has led efforts to get the National Football League team to change its name, thanked the president for speaking out. Other tribal leaders responded with applause during the meeting in the Roosevelt Room.

In an October interview with The Associated Press, Obama said that if he owned the Redskins he would consider changing the name. He said that while fans get attached to nicknames, nostalgia isn’t a good enough reason to keep a name that offends “a sizable group of people.”

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Ta-Nehisi Coates: Richard Cohen In Context

The problem is that Richard Cohen thinks being repulsed isn’t actually racist, but  “conventional” or “culturally conservative.” Obstructing the right of black humans and white humans to form families is a central feature of American racism. If retching at the thought of that right being exercised isn’t racism, then there is no racism.

Context can not improve this. “Context” is not a safe-word that makes all your other horse-shit statements disappear. And horse-shit is the context in which Richard Cohen has, for all these years, wallowed. It is horse-shit to claim that store owners are right to discriminate against black males. It is horse-shit to claim that Trayvon Martin was wearing the uniform of criminals. It is horse-shit to subject your young female co-workers  to “a hostile work environment.”It is horse-shit to expend precious news-print lamenting the days when slovenly old dudes had their pick of 20-year old women. It is horse-shit to defend a rapist on the run because you like “The Pianist.”

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E.J. Dionne: What’s The Matter With Motherhood?

If you’re a conservative strongly opposed to abortion, shouldn’t you want to give all the help you can to women who want to bring their children into the world? In particular, wouldn’t you hope they’d get the proper medical attention during and after their pregnancy? This would seem a safe assumption, which is why it ought to be astonishing that conservatives are positively obsessed with trashing the Affordable Care Act’s regulation requiring insurance policies to include maternity coverage.

Never mind that we who are lucky enough to have health insurance end up paying to cover conditions we may never suffer ourselves. We all want to avoid cancer, but we don’t begrudge those who do get it when the premiums we pay into our shared insurance pools help them receive care.

More here



Steve Benen: Dem appears to prevail in Virginia

A week after the 2013 elections, there’s one incredibly close race the political world is watching with great interest: who’ll be Virginia’s new state attorney general?

The vote-counting process ended last night, and as the dust settled, Democrat Mark Herring finished with 163 more votes than Republican Mark Obenshain – out of more than 2.2 million votes cast. Overnight, Herring declared victory.

So, is that it? Of course not. Given the margin, Obenshain has not conceded the race – it stands to reason that if the roles were reversed, Herring wouldn’t concede, either – and a statewide recount is probably inevitable. That, however, can’t begin until these preliminary tallies are certified, and that won’t happen until Nov. 25.

More here




A Year Ago This Week:

Chicago Tonight, November, 2000:

See the full show here


MoooOOOooorning – and thank you again to the Miiiiiighty UT for all the newsie links help!

81 Responses to “Rise and Shine”

  1. 5 amk for obama
    November 13, 2013 at 9:57 am

  2. 6 bojoflo
    November 13, 2013 at 9:57 am

    Good Morning. 🙂

  3. 7 amk for obama
    November 13, 2013 at 10:18 am

  4. 8 LDS
    November 13, 2013 at 10:18 am

    Good morning TOD!
    Hi ya Ms. Chips. Danny boy is sure a cutie pie and keeping you busy. Thank you for all the R&S goodies. Going back to read it all.
    So sick of Billary’s comment being spwed over the Weather Channel this morning. When is he going to give it up? Have a great day everyone!

  5. 9 yardarm756
    November 13, 2013 at 10:22 am

    G’day mates. Under the heading of TMI(too much info), I took my Dr’s advice to check my stool this a.m……Can anyone tell me how Bill Clinton got in my toilet? 😡

  6. November 13, 2013 at 10:30 am

    Good morning everyone. Long time no speak.

  7. 24 Alycee (@jazziz2)
    November 13, 2013 at 10:31 am

    Good morning, TOD! I’m baaaaaaack (sort of); had a great weekend in Memphis. now I have a day two days of (1) catch up and (2) appointments, then off to Brooklyn on Friday for a concert and back here on Saturday morning for pampered princess appointments and the Montford Point Marines Ball on Saturday night.

    I’m going to sleep all of next week!!!!!!!!!!!!

  8. 25 Ladyhawke
    November 13, 2013 at 10:33 am

    How Republicans Rig the Game

    Through gerrymandering, voter suppression and legislative tricks, the GOP has managed to hold on to power while more and more Americans reject their candidates and their ideas



    How is this possible? National Republicans have waged an unrelenting campaign to exploit every weakness and anachronism in our electoral system. Through a combination of hyperpartisan redistricting of the House, unprecedented obstructionism in the Senate and racist voter suppression in the states, today’s GOP has locked in political power that it could never have secured on a level playing field.


    Read more: http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/how-republicans-rig-the-game-20131111

    • November 13, 2013 at 11:28 am

      Tim was on @Lawrence last night.

      Tried to figure out how to obtain video URL (following your suggestion to click on the “share” button, but nothing happens… I clicked on twitter and then e-mail, but got nothing back from the site).

      What am I doing wrong? (I’m on Windows, using Google Chrome.) Thanks.

  9. 27 Ladyhawke
    November 13, 2013 at 10:36 am

    GOP obstructionism becomes ‘absolutely ridiculous’

    By Steve Benen


    Political scientist and centrist pundit Norm Ornstein told TPM that the GOP hasn’t left Democrats with much of a choice. “In previous cases it was the minority party filibustering nominees they judged were not mainstream,” Ornstein said. “There’s no case even being made that these nominees aren’t qualified. We’ve never seen that before. … I just think it’s ridiculous. Absolutely ridiculous.”

    In his print column, Ornstein added, “The argument that if he does so, Republicans will do the same thing when they take the White House and Senate is a bad one: Can anyone doubt that McConnell would blow up the filibuster rule in a nanosecond if he had the ability to fill all courts with radical conservatives like Janice Rogers Brown for decades to come?”



  10. November 13, 2013 at 10:36 am

    Good Morning all!

    Spent much of yesterday pissed at Democrats. Today is the same. Senator Jeff Merkley signed on to Sen. Landrieu’s “if you like it, you can keep it” bill that reputable reporters are saying would undermine ACA even more than the bill proposed by the House GOP. Instead of going after GOP for all THEIR lies, for not expanding Medicaid or going after insurers, these idiots chose to stab POTUS in the back. I am so sick of their shit.

    When I get back from errands I will be calling all three – Landrieu, Merkley and Feinstein. They need to hear from us.

    • 29 57andfemale
      November 13, 2013 at 11:15 am

      I’m furious, gobrooklyn. And Diane Feinstein?!?! Seriously?!?!?! Does she have a tea party Democrat who is primarying her?

      Where would we be if Democrats stuck together. At the first sign of trouble, they bail.

      • November 13, 2013 at 11:39 am

        i think this is where these Dems are…they do not believe in the ACA..simple…

        • 31 57andfemale
          November 13, 2013 at 12:01 pm

          Then I don’t know what the hell they DO believe in. They’re in Congress for God’s sake – they know how hard it was to get this far. Help out, instead of making things worse. I’m just infuriated.

    • 32 Nena20409
      November 13, 2013 at 12:10 pm

      G/Morning GBand TODers in every Hamlet.

      Called Feinstein at DC # 202-224-3841.
      San Fran # 415-393-0707
      Los Ang # 310-914-7300
      San Diego # 619-231-1108
      Fresno # 559-485-7430

      Called Eleanor Holmes Norton too @ 202-225-8050

      I called those two for they are always the 1st two to nitpick on this pres.

    • 34 Lovepolitics2008
      November 13, 2013 at 1:13 pm

      I think all of this has been orchestrated by Bill and Hillary. Bill’s idea of “fixing” the ACA is wrong, but as usual, he will realize it a bit late. In the mean time, I’m sure he’s been in discussion with Feinstein and many other Clintonites about the strategy to adopt to enable the “fix” despite what President Obama and his team want.

      Clinton is not evil. He simply thinks he’s smarter than the president. He spends hours in “studying” a problem, and comes with his solution. Which is often flawed. Because he hasn’t thought of all the consequences. Or he thinks more in terms of short political tactics and dismisses in his head the future difficulties he creates because, what the heck… he’ll always find another political trick to fix his fix”. Anyway, he pushes his “solution” behind the scenes because he has a strong following within the party and has a lot of friends in the Senate and in the House. Friends who have more confidence in him than in the president.

      Remember all this talk about the 14th amendment two years ago. And then something else on the economic front; sorry I don’t remember but he undermined the president’s message another time and ADMITTED HE WAS WRONG a few weeks/months later. But he didn’t apologize to the president for having undermined him.

      This new campaign to “fix” the ACA is yet another case of Clinton’s promptitude to propose a solution without enough consulting the TRUE experts. I hope President Obama has a word or two with Clinton to make him realize that he pulled the trigger too fast.

      Make no mistake about it: since the beginning of his presidency, one of the biggest difficulties President Obama has had is to deal with Bill Clinton’s influence within the party. Yes, Clinton is a formidable campaigner, and is excellent at summarizing complex stuff in simpler terms. But that doesn’t mean his policy solutions are right. And that doesn’t mean he’s right with the political tactics either.

      • 35 Lovepolitics2008
        November 13, 2013 at 1:38 pm

        Ok replying to myself. Maybe I’m the one who pulled the trigger too fast. Apparently, the bill of Senator Landrieu isn’t “that” bad; some good ideas to force insurance companies to really inform their customers about their different options.

        I stand by my affirmation though that Bill Clinton’s actions are not helping the president , more often than not. Gosh, republicans are having a field day.

        • November 13, 2013 at 1:43 pm

          You know, Lovepolitics2008, I haven’t always shared the views of many here about Bill Clinton, despite all his flaws, but this latest thing finished me with him – for once and for all. As someone who failed to push through meaningful healthcare reform, that he would now give ammunition to the anti-Obamacare crew, in the media/on the right and far left, is just unforgivable. From now on? **** him.

        • 37 Obama Grandmama
          November 13, 2013 at 8:48 pm

          There are a lot of ways in which Bill Clinton’s policies are no different than Republicans. I count many of the laws passed and signed while he was in office the same as Republicans goals. PBO pretty much sticks to what he wants instead of giving into the other side.

      • November 13, 2013 at 2:13 pm

        Spot on. I think the “Morning Joe Democrats” are the same ones who are very loyal to Bill Clinton. Nothing but trouble.

  11. 39 dotster3
    November 13, 2013 at 10:42 am

    PBO’s chief tech adviser, Todd Park, said much progress is being made on the healthcare dot gov website. Repubs are forcing him to appear before some inquisition today to hear him say that in person, I guess, because—–jerks.


  12. 40 57andfemale
    November 13, 2013 at 10:47 am

    Eff DINO’s. EFF Mary Landrieu’s bill which actually goes farther than the POS bill in the House and super EFF YOU, DIANE FEINSTEIN and a gazillion EFF YOU’s to Bill Clinton.

    I was inartful yesterday when all I was trying to say that any move toward “if you like your plan you can keep it” legislation will do serious damage to HCR, and I am happy to see such views on TOD’s FP. I would like Sebelius and the President to FIRMLY disavow any such consideration, our explanations notwithstanding. I know Jay Carney’s statement was far less damaging than TPM made it sound but I’d like to see some good old fashioned Democratic outrage.

    Ben Cardin was good this morning on c-span but it doesn’t help when Bill Clinton’s self-serving words were plastered on the TV during Cardin’s segment. Cardin was good, quiet and sensible, so I’m not sure that undid any of the damage of Bill Clinton’s b.s. that was there for everyone to read throughout the segment.

  13. 41 Linda
    November 13, 2013 at 10:59 am

    I received two request for money yesterday . One from Georgia Dems and one from the DNC..

    They will get NOTHING back except a statement telling them to go pound salt unless they stop back stabbing PBO>

    I will call them both also.

    • 42 LDS
      November 13, 2013 at 11:25 am

      My sentiments exactly. I am tired of their BS. PBO is and has met his part of to help raise money for DNC.
      They all are reaping the benefits, but openly supporting HIM it seems to be a problem. Billary has said enough. Keep talking…..
      I am donating all of proceeds to Elizabeth Warren.

    • 44 57andfemale
      November 13, 2013 at 12:04 pm

      DNC called me twice last night. I get no less than 10 calls/week. I didn’t have it in me to fight with them. But yes, I do need to pick up the phone and tell them to have PBO’s back, match the outrage, learn the hell how to frame, how to coach people before they blow it in front of the cameras.

  14. 45 amk for obama
    November 13, 2013 at 11:07 am

  15. 46 amk for obama
    November 13, 2013 at 11:11 am

  16. 48 amk for obama
    November 13, 2013 at 11:12 am

  17. 49 amk for obama
    November 13, 2013 at 11:12 am

  18. 50 dotster3
    November 13, 2013 at 11:24 am

    Agree with the opinion that the awkward and improbable accounts in the book by Dylan Davies should have set off alarm bells in any clear-thinking, non-partisan 60 Minutes “investigation” team and in tale-teller Lara Logan. The guy has the FBI guys sobbing about his bravery and courage in coming forward, gushing about him “doing the right thing”—-just unbelievable, a sappy, unbelievable script that would have laughingly rejected and thrown in the trash by any decent publisher and movie studio. Logan and her 60 Minutes team must have been desperate to use this person to push their agenda.

    • 51 carolyn
      November 13, 2013 at 11:48 am

      After reading that excerpt, Sixty Minutes people look like fools and dupes! But fools and dupes with an agenda….FBI mean crying…..complimenting him on his courage????? Please! Get real. That should have been the FIRST red flag…..many others.
      Oh my…..time to work on grades for my classes. Much more satisfying.

    • November 13, 2013 at 11:51 am

      Someone in TODville posted this link, and the article’s conclusion seems about right to me:

      If Logan got fired for this—or if anybody got fired for this—well that would only be taken by the right as evidence that those liberals at CBS will do Barack Obama’s bidding. And that’s the last thing they want to be seen as doing.

      No media uproar that the President of CBS News used to work for Fox.

      No media uproar that Logan’s husband worked for a contractor paid $100 million (!!!) to basically be the Baghdad Bob of the West. The Iraq was such an awful sacrifice of our nation’s treasure and cost way too much (but lined the pockets of defense “contractors”) — why is there no outrage for basically paying a company $100 to do nothing but be a liaison between GWB/Rumsfeld Pentagon and Iraqi media?

      • November 13, 2013 at 11:55 am

        And this, which is what I think prompted the CBS = Complete Bull S*** tweet:

        “The basis for this report was a ‘partial transcript’ obtained by CBS correspondent Attkisson and provided to her by House Oversight Chairman Rep. Issa.

        As MSNBC’s Steve Benen pointed out, the CBS report leaves out ‘pretty much every relevant detail that points in a more accurate direction,’ most importantly that the supposed security risk relates to a part of the website that won’t be active until Spring 2014 and has nothing to do with the parts of the website that are currently in use. The Hill reported…”

  19. 55 Vicki
    November 13, 2013 at 11:38 am

    It seems we are not going to get much coverage of the Republican’s Refusal to Work behavior. They are On Strike. A Sickout, of sorts.
    They won’t come to work and they won’t allow votes on Immigration, ENDA etc.
    As far as i know Patty Murray’s budget committee is twiddling its thumbs.

    In the Senate they are blocking numerous appointments both judicial and presidential.

    But if you turn on your television the coverage is all about the loud screaming as the unstoppable train of good affordable healhcare comes closer and closer (thanks to desertflower for the metaphor.)

    Media is at best useless and in my view dangerous to our democracy.

  20. 56 dotster3
    November 13, 2013 at 11:39 am

  21. 57 Bill R.
    November 13, 2013 at 11:46 am

  22. 58 Bill R.
    November 13, 2013 at 12:11 pm

  23. 59 Nena20409
    November 13, 2013 at 12:18 pm

    Please Twitter Warriors at TOD please send this to the Stephanie Miller Show this 2010 Full throat explanation of PBO explaining his Comments about those with “Ponzi” scheme health insurance. Ponzi is my chosen word.

    I called SM show this AM told them about this tape.


    Thanks TODers Twitter Brigades in advance.

  24. 60 Judith Fardig
    November 13, 2013 at 12:28 pm

    I called my Senator Jeff Merkley and told him I was shocked and dismayed that he would sign on to Sen. Landrieu’s poorly conceived bill. I know he supports the ACA and can’t fathom why he would do this!

  25. 61 dotster3
    November 13, 2013 at 12:30 pm

    Obamacare website “mystery woman” emerges, said she has been the target of unimaginable hateful cyber-bullying, photo-shopping, the subject of late night jokes etc. She said she was just looking for some free family photos when she contacted the site and agreed to allow her photo to be used. She is Columbian, her husband is a U.S. citizen, they live in Md. with their small child. It probably was not a good idea to use the photo of someone who is not currently a U.S. citizen (she has applied and is in the process), did her no favors and of course opened the gate to the rabid dog Obamacare attackers.


  26. 62 Bill R.
    November 13, 2013 at 12:31 pm

    Interesting take on the Landrieu Bill. It seems to offer an upside by forcing Ins Cos to offer legal plans or leaving the state they do business in giving greater federal control over state ins. http://www.businessinsider.com/heres-the-real-government-takeover-of-health-care-2013-11
    Brian Beutler says Landrieu plan is all about political cover for Dems and won’t be embraced by Rs. Upton bill allows insurers to cherry pick who they accept. Won’t fly.

  27. 63 Nena20409
    November 13, 2013 at 12:41 pm


    Jay’s briefer is set for 1:15 pm ET

  28. 64 dotster3
    November 13, 2013 at 12:42 pm

    See Boehner is citing Bill Clinton’s Obamacare advice. No one could have predicted…..

    • 65 Linda
      November 13, 2013 at 12:47 pm

      Bill Clinton has deep seeded Jealousy and Envy of Barack Obama and will do anything to hurt him…….

      Little does he realize he is hurting Hillary more.

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  31. November 13, 2013 at 12:50 pm

    This is the letter I just wrote to Senator Feinstein.

    Dear Senator Feinstein,

    It is with great dismay that I’ve learned about your joining in the effort to “reform” the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act. Specifically, in allowing consumers to keep insurance policies which no longer meet the standards of the PPACA.

    Any cursory review of the matter will show that the insurance companies are behind the effort to scupper the successful implementation of the PPACA. They could have easily informed their customers that their current plans do not meet the requirements of the Act, and worked to provide them with plans which do pass muster. For reference, you can read this investigation published by Talking Points Memo: http://talkingpointsmemo.com/dc/insurance-companies-misleading-letters-obamacare. Insurance companies are cancelling customers’ insurance plans, without informing them of the options available on the health exchanges. Obviously, this is a problem of their own creation, and one which has now exploded into accusations of “broken promises”.

    Being the senior Senator from California, a state which has its own health exchange, I’m very saddened that you would lend your name to an effort by frightened red state Democrats to show “independence” from President Obama. The President has always said that he’s open to making the law better. This “reform” would raise insurance premiums for everyone, and encode insurance plans which are near fraudulent into law. This goes directly against the aim of the PPACA, which is to provide everyone in the United States with comprehensive, affordable health care. The plans which the insurance companies are cynically cancelling are far from comprehensive; and while they may be “affordable” in regards to a monthly premium, their high deductibles make them near worthless.

    I urge you to reconsider your stance. You are seen as a leader among Democrats in the Senate; your do yourself and the people of California a disservice by lending your name to this effort by colleagues running for the hills. Among my friends and family, we always wonder why Democrats can never stand firm in the face of an assault of lies and disinformation from those on the Right and in the corporate media. As a party, we have a chance to take back the House and increase our majority in the Senate in 2014. This can only happen if we stand firm, and fight lies with truth, rather than “triangulating” against the President. If that happens, 2014 will be another 2010, with grievous consequences for the country.

    Please stand with the President in finding a workable fix for a problem brought about by insurance companies. Making the PPACA successful is the surest route to electoral success.

  32. 75 criquet
    November 13, 2013 at 12:52 pm

    Hello all.

    I have tried to explain the problem with these cancellations to some family of mine in this way.

    There was a time when seatbelts in cars were not required. So if a law is passed requiring seatbelts in the car, the car maker may decide to comply and put in the seat belts or stop making cars.

    The insurers have decided not to comply with ACA and cancelled plans.

    Is that fair or am I oversimplifying?

    Anyone with a better way please let me know.

  33. 76 dotster3
    November 13, 2013 at 12:55 pm

    Why is Kristen Gillibrand praising the “common sense” of Rand Paul and Ted Cruz? Too many Dems are just politically clueless. I don’t care how pleased she was about whatever they agreed to on the important issue of military assault, she should have kept her pleasure to herself and gone about her business. It is not helpful for her to be out in public praising the 2 craziest people in our Congress for their “common sense”, which is just absurd, while publicly slamming her fellow Dems at the same time, no matter how deserved. There’s a time to fish and a time to cut bait. Some Dems don’t know the difference. SIGH.

  34. November 13, 2013 at 12:58 pm

    Back home from running errands. I took the three phone numbers w/me (Landrieu, Merkley and Feinstein) and called their offices while I was out. (Can’t do it if my R-husband is at home.:( ) Anyway, got excuses from all three. In fact, Merkley’s office wouldn’t even take my comment……first thing he asked was where I was calling from and I told him….then pointed out I am an American citizen and a Dem and believe we all should support PO. The aide interrupted me and asked if I wanted to be transferred to my senators. I said “Shame on the Senator” and hung up. Went into the store and did my shopping; got in the car and Ed had just come on. Listened to him coming home and I honestly thought Ed was going to have a stroke or a heart attack. He is way beyond furious with Clinton and also w/the other folks, but especially Clinton. Ed was saying much the same things we say here. I know we all have had our frustration with Ed and with very good reason, but on this topic is is “on fire” and 1000% supportive of PO and the ACA.

  35. 81 Linda
    November 13, 2013 at 1:02 pm

    Teens Confront Speaker Boehner On Immigration Reform

    Mere hours later during a press conference, Boehner said, “We have no intention of ever going to conference on the Senate bill … I want us to deal with this issue, but I want to deal with it in a commonsense step by step way as we develop the principles, we’ll figure out how we’ll move ahead.”

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