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  1. 2 utaustinliberal
    November 7, 2013 at 9:24 pm

  2. November 7, 2013 at 9:27 pm

    GE Chips, TOD. Congrats, Africa! …….Holy s**t 60 minutes? That was what I thought was the last bastion of good journalism. Sad day…

    Donna received the letter canceling her insurance plan on Sept. 16. Her insurance company, LifeWise of Washington, told her that they’d identified a new plan for her. If she did nothing, she’d be covered. A 56-year-old Seattle resident with a 57-year-old husband and 15-year-old daughter, Donna had been looking forward to the savings that the Affordable Care Act had to offer. But that’s not what she found. Instead, she’d be paying an additional $300 a month for coverage. The letter made no mention of the health insurance marketplace that would soon open in Washington, where she could shop for competitive plans, and only an oblique reference to financial help that she might qualify for, if she made the effort to call and find out.

    Otherwise, she’d be automatically rolled over to a new plan — and, as the letter said, “If you’re happy with this plan, do nothing.”
    If Donna had done nothing, she would have ended up spending about $1,000 more a month for insurance than she will now that she went to the marketplace, picked the best plan for her family and accessed tax credits at the heart of the health care reform law.

    “The info that we were sent by LifeWise was totally bogus. Why the heck did they try to screw us?” Donna said. “People who are afraid of the ACA should be much more afraid of the insurance companies who will exploit their fear and end up overcharging them.”

  3. 4 vcprezofan2
    November 7, 2013 at 9:28 pm

    Here I am, again.

  4. 5 Nena20409
    November 7, 2013 at 9:29 pm

    A f r i c a 😉 Africa 😉


  5. November 7, 2013 at 9:30 pm

    Unbelievable, NRA & RWNJ can’t even handle an internal debate on guns!

    The Florida-based gun enthusiast magazine Guns & Ammo fired longtime editor Dick Metcalf on Wednesday and apologized to readers after Metcalf’s column in the magazine’s December issue sparked an online uproar from readers, gun bloggers, and other corners of the conservative movement.

    “I made a mistake by publishing the column,” Guns & Ammo editor Jim Bequette wrote in a statement. “I thought it would generate a healthy exchange of ideas on gun rights. I miscalculated, pure and simple. I was wrong, and I ask your forgiveness.” Bequette said the magazine had failed to be true to its readers’ expectations of unqualified defense of the Second Amendment, and announced that the magazine had ended its “association” with Metcalf. Bequette, Metcalf, and Guns & Ammo have not responded to requests for comment.

    Metcalf’s back-page column was headlined “Let’s Talk About Limits,” and cautiously argued that gun enthusiasts should not oppose basic limits on firearm ownership

  6. 8 Nena20409
    November 7, 2013 at 9:30 pm

    G’nite TOD.

    Tomorrow is indeed another day 😉

  7. 9 Jovie
    November 7, 2013 at 9:30 pm

  8. 10 anniebella
    November 7, 2013 at 9:32 pm

    POTUS said Sunny did okay, she only jump on one kid. Sweet dog.

  9. November 7, 2013 at 9:34 pm

  10. November 7, 2013 at 9:34 pm

    He was accused of being behind a roadside bomb in September that killed Maj Gen Sanaullah Niazi, the top commander in Swat, along with two other military personnel. Mullah Fazlullah was known for his radio broadcasts calling for strict Islamic laws and earning him the nickname “Mullah Radio”. The shooting of Malala Yousafzai in October 2012 sparked outrage in Pakistan and across the globe. The teenager had spoken out against the Taliban’s restrictions on girls’ education. She was airlifted to the UK for hospital treatment and now lives in Birmingham with her family.

    This year Malala, now 16, addressed the UN General Assembly and won the European Union’s Sakharov human rights prize. Prior to the latest Taliban announcement, the BBC’s M Ilyas Khan in Islamabad said that Mullah Fazlullah was not a member of the Mehsud clan and, if appointed, would face a challenge to control the Mehsud fighters, who make up the bulk of the Taliban’s manpower. The Taliban’s ruling council took seven days to reach a decision.

  11. November 7, 2013 at 9:34 pm

  12. November 7, 2013 at 9:35 pm

    WASHINGTON—The White House heralded President Barack Obama’s phone call with Iranian counterpart Hasan Rouhani earlier this fall as a foreign-policy milestone born of a rush of last-minute diplomacy. But the historic conversation was more intricately choreographed than previously disclosed.Top National Security Council officials began planting the seeds for such an exchange months earlier—holding a series of secret meetings and telephone calls and convening an assortment of Arab monarchs, Iranian exiles and former U.S. diplomats to clandestinely ferry messages between Washington and Tehran, according to current and former U.S., Middle Eastern and European officials briefed on the effort.

    Mr. Obama had empowered the administration’s top Iran specialist, Puneet Talwar, for some time to have direct meetings and phone conversations with Iranian Foreign Ministry officials, those people say. Some of the contacts took place in Oman’s ancient capital, Muscat, U.S. and Middle Eastern officials say, which sits less than 200 miles across the Gulf’s azure waters from the Iranian coastline.

    Mr. Talwar, an Indian-American steeped in Iran policy, has at times conveyed a succinct message for his Iranian interlocutors: The U.S. wants to peacefully resolve the dispute over Tehran’s nuclear program, according to these officials. The White House also reached out to Tehran through other senior Obama aides, including National Security Adviser Susan Rice, according to Iranian and U.S. officials briefed on the exchanges. At Mr. Obama’s direction, Ms. Rice had nurtured ties with her Iranian counterpart while serving from 2009-2013 as U.S. ambassador to the United Nations, according to U.S. and Iranian officials, rekindling those connections for the September phone call between the Iranian and American leaders.

    Google “U.S.-Iran Thaw Grew From Years Of Behind-the-Scenes Talks” and you can get behind the paywall

  13. 16 amk for obama
    November 7, 2013 at 9:36 pm


    Just finished reading the last thread and the angry tweets about the ugliness and misleading tweets from chuck toad. I doubt any of the dem “leaders” would come out and call out the pos toad for what he was. More than gop, it’s media, their enablers, that would destroy the governance in US. I am fuming that an intelligent and caring man would be treated in such a shabby manner without any repercussions.

    • 17 jacquelineoboomer
      November 7, 2013 at 9:46 pm

      I understand. We are all fuming with you, amk. And it’s a righteous anger. The only people who haven’t had enough are those who would treat Pres. Obama in this manner, in the first place. #Forward

    • November 7, 2013 at 10:23 pm

      As I said in the last post: I’m finally with you, amk. We don’t deserve this man. But I thank the God in whom I have trouble believing that we have him.

      • 19 amk for obama
        November 7, 2013 at 10:51 pm

        Indeed LL. When the morons gave the keys back to the rethugs in 2010, I realized the racist white usa deserves only corrupt dumbfucks like dubya and raygun.

    • 20 nathkatun7
      November 8, 2013 at 12:46 am

      As always, I am coming late to the discussion but I agree with you 100%! I also left a repines on the previous thread. I think we must pressure both the Democratic leaders and media owners to demand “repercussions” for these shoddy and unethical, so called journalists, who have decided to join the GOP in undermining the government, cause more misery to millions of Americans, all because they are determined to destroy President Obama. I will tomorrow write my Representative and my two U.S. Senators urging them to demand accountability from NBC for Chuck Todd’s unethical and bully behavior towards the President. I am also urging them to demand from CBS severe repercussions for all those who worked to push the phony Benghazi story on 60 minutes.

      I’ve been saying this every chance I get: The greatest threat facing U.S democracy is the totally unethical and sensationalist mainstream media.

  14. November 7, 2013 at 9:40 pm

    “The White House got this ball rolling in a big way by putting this in the State of the Union,” said Judy Conti, federal advocacy coordinator at the National Employment Law Project. “I think they’ve come to a point where they realize the economy deserves a robust minimum wage. The jobs we’re creating are hourly jobs with low wages. We need to do everything we can to raise it.” The $10.10 figure in the Harkin-Miller proposal isn’t arbitrary. Progressive economists like to point out that if the minimum wage had kept pace with inflation since its high in the late 1960s, it would now be above $10……

    During his State of the Union address, Obama argued that hiking the minimum wage would improve the lives of millions of workers and their families.
    “Even with the tax relief we’ve put in place, a family with two kids that earns the minimum wage still lives below the poverty line. That’s wrong,” Obama said. “Tonight, let’s declare that in the wealthiest nation on Earth, no one who works full time should have to live in poverty.”

  15. 22 amk for obama
    November 7, 2013 at 9:40 pm

    • 23 yardarm756
      November 7, 2013 at 10:34 pm

      in’t that a hoot. M’dam L. Graham is blocking all nominations because of a lie, the MSM is worried about Joe was gonna be Vice President and whether PBO is gonna apologize for a screwed up computer system……I feel a lot of nautical language boiling to the surface.

      • 24 amk for obama
        November 7, 2013 at 10:55 pm

        Yes, YA. The revulsion has reached the boiling point. I truly value two things in a democracy, voting and journalism. On both fronts, the world’s ‘oldest democracy’ has failed utterly and miserably.

      • 27 nathkatun7
        November 8, 2013 at 1:05 am

        You know, Yardarm and AMK, as i’ve grown older and observed more about the nature of racism in this country, I’ve come to the realization that the most insidious, and consequently the most complex and the most damaging, practice of racism is not the racism perpetuated by silly men wearing hooded white robes. Rather, it is the racism practiced by respectable men, most of whom wear Brooks Brothers suits. Traditionally, respectable racists worked behind the scenes and have been effective in hiding their racism. Ever since the election of President Obama, more and more of these covert racists are openly reveling their true nature.

  16. 29 hopefruit2
    November 7, 2013 at 9:40 pm

    • 30 vcprezofan2
      November 7, 2013 at 10:13 pm

      Hopefruit, would press corps members be a part of movie screenings, or would they be on the outside (in the parking lot for example? 😉 ) looking in?

      • 31 anniebella
        November 7, 2013 at 10:47 pm

        On the outside I bet. No one want to be trying to enjoy watching a movie with those jackasses around.

      • 34 hopefruit2
        November 7, 2013 at 11:00 pm

        I wouldn’t be surprised if PBO locked them all out-even out of the parking lot! 🙂

        • 35 vcprezofan2
          November 8, 2013 at 8:14 am

          Sounds good to me, Hopef, now that I’ve slept on it. They’d have to be careful of what they said/how they reacted if they didn’t want to have Knoller counting how many times they blinked, cried or laughed or see that info splattered over twitter or in news. Wasn’t really thinking when I asked the question.

  17. 36 jacquelineoboomer
    November 7, 2013 at 9:41 pm

  18. November 7, 2013 at 9:47 pm

    Request to TOD. I’m at a location where I cannot view bit.ly links. Please provide actual link in this tweet. Thanks!

  19. November 7, 2013 at 9:52 pm

  20. 45 jacquelineoboomer
    November 7, 2013 at 9:54 pm

  21. November 7, 2013 at 9:58 pm


    • 47 nathkatun7
      November 8, 2013 at 1:15 am

      Great, Great, tweet, Bob!

      CBS did a hit piece thinking it could get away with it because the entire media are inflicted with ODS and because CBS knew the right wingers would amplify the bogus story.

  22. 48 africa
    November 7, 2013 at 10:11 pm

  23. 52 africa
    November 7, 2013 at 10:11 pm

  24. November 7, 2013 at 10:14 pm

    Hey Chippers, just sent you a DM.

  25. 57 yardarm756
    November 7, 2013 at 10:20 pm

  26. November 7, 2013 at 10:29 pm

    Pleeease don’t take this the wrong way! But as much as agree with y’all in your revulsion with Toad and his ilk, our President is ONE TOUGH HOMBRE! Yessss the disrespect for THIS president makes me apoplectic too! But I also kind of relish the way he turns this shitsticks inside out! 🙂 🙂 :). These silly, petty, mercenary fuckers infuriate us, but I don’t think they bother the President much at all!

  27. November 7, 2013 at 10:31 pm

    Not impressed with Alex Wagner on Lawrence’s panel. She is still pushing him not showing outrage enough. if Christie gets in she should like his loud obnoxious ways. Steve Kornacky impressed me with his comments even more than Joy Reid. Although Joy is probably correct in that the Right will try to paint PBO as a liar. I am thinking Todd’s question was intended to help with that.

    • 60 Ladyhawke
      November 7, 2013 at 10:46 pm

      I totally agree with your analysis OG. Also, is it just me or has Lawrence O’Donnell had a smirk on his face for the entire show. When Lawrence wants to he can have some pretty substantive and informative interviews. For some reason, tonight I feel there is a bit too much glee in his demeanor. It’s probably just me. I am just very sensitive and protective of President Obama and it annoys me to no end that the gasbags never give him an ounce of credit for trying to govern when the opposition party is nuts. Chuck Todd’s questions were snarling and dripping with sarcasm. But then again, that’s par for the course. I absolutely loathe that man.

  28. 61 jackiegrumbacher
    November 7, 2013 at 10:31 pm

    What the corporate controlled media doesn’t understand about the vast millions who support our president is that every hit job against PBO and every act of disrespect, strengthens the coalition that elected Barack Obama president. Going into 2014, the Obama coalition has to be energized by whatever means possible. We have to be so stirred to act that we leave no stone unturned–no potential voter unregistered and no registered voter unreached. In 2010, the coalition became flabby and allowed an unholy group of radical extremists to gain control of the US House and far too many state houses. This is when we start to build the muscle and the power to be the 2008 and 2012 force all over again so we can deliver a sane and functional Congress to our president. It’s our final act and most important act of loyalty to this great president. Chuck Todd and others like him do us a favor with their hatred. They rouse us and push us into action. I think the president knows this. He’s trying to wake everyone up. He’s telling us the battle will be hard and nasty, but we have to be ready for it and we have to fight like hell. Notice how many times the president says, “we’re in this together and we won’t give up.” That’s his message to us–the tens of millions who elected him. It’s our signal to light the fires and call out our forces.

  29. November 7, 2013 at 10:35 pm

    • 67 magapie
      November 7, 2013 at 10:40 pm

      From my prior observation above … 🙂

      These silly, petty, mercenary fuckers infuriate us, but I don’t think they bother the President much at all!

  30. 68 vcprezofan2
    November 7, 2013 at 10:37 pm

    ‘[Sleep is] the golden chain that ties health and our bodies together.’ ~Thomas Dekker

    Good Night, gentle people!

  31. 71 yardarm756
    November 7, 2013 at 10:38 pm


  32. 83 africa
    November 7, 2013 at 10:38 pm

  33. 84 jacquelineoboomer
    November 7, 2013 at 10:40 pm

  34. November 7, 2013 at 10:42 pm

    Love Kerry, our Vietnam War veteran Secretary of State, telling it like it is to Netanyahu (who cozied up with that chicken-hawk entitled R-money last year), laying the groundwork for the spectacular goings-on with Iran (and then Russia, then Syria?).

  35. 89 anniebella
    November 7, 2013 at 10:46 pm

    Will President Obama be traveling tomorrow?

  36. November 7, 2013 at 10:46 pm

    And this:

  37. November 7, 2013 at 10:48 pm

    • 92 Ladyhawke
      November 7, 2013 at 10:55 pm

      what a breath of fresh air. I saw Secretary John Kerry at a press event with Netanyahu on BBC. While Netanyahu was speaking, SoS Kerry’s body language just was not feeling what he was saying. He seemed to be marveling at the bs that was spewing from Netanyahu. I have never forgiven Netanyahu for the stunt he pulled in the Oval Office. Lecturing President Obama was beyond the pale. It was disgusting.

  38. 94 yardarm756
    November 7, 2013 at 10:50 pm

  39. November 7, 2013 at 10:52 pm

    So yesterday, CBS was defiant in the face of facts.

    After hours today, they meekly pulled the Benghazi story from their website, thinking that would make things all better.

    Why did it take them nearly 2 weeks to acknowledge a problem (60 minutes isn’t under a daily/hourly deadline like the rest of the news crew are), unless Chips is right about this?

    Walter Cronkite, I’m sorry for what your news organization has become, Murdoch-lite in the USA.

  40. November 7, 2013 at 10:58 pm

    Ok all, give me a few minutes-ish and I’ll have some music for you.

    • 99 jacquelineoboomer
      November 7, 2013 at 11:03 pm

      If it’s Christmas music in November (ha ha), which I think you’ve been threatening, can you add David Bowie with Bing Crosby, singing The Little Drummer Boy?

  41. 100 jacquelineoboomer
    November 7, 2013 at 10:59 pm

    Lawrence has on the guy who wrote the cover story for TIME magazine, which has an awful silhouette of Chris Christie on its cover and the header: The Elephant in the Room. Seriously, Christie’s weight is the least of his negatives regarding occupying any political office. We can do better than that.

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