Rise and Shine

On This Day: President Obama votes early, Chicago, October 25, 2012 (Photo by Scout Tufankjian)


Today (all times Eastern):

1:20: President Obama departs the White House en route Joint Base Andrews

1:45: First Lady Michelle Obama and Jill Biden greet the USO Volunteer of the Year, The Spirit of the USO Award honoree, and 6 USO service honorees and their families

2:15: Michelle Obama delivers remarks at the Women’s Leadership Forum (WLF) National Issues Conference

2:30: President Obama arrives in New York

3:25: Visits Pathways in Technology Early College High School, Brooklyn

3:45: Delivers remarks

6:45: VP Biden and Dr Jill Biden deliver remarks at the Annual Issues Conference of the Democratic National Committee’s Women’s Leadership Forum at the Newseum

7:0: President Obama delivers remarks at a DCCC event (private residence)

8:10: Attends a DNC event (private residence)

9:55: Departs New York

11:05: Arrives at the White House


First Lady Michelle Obama and Dr Jill Biden host a poetry recital in honor of Kalsoom Nawaz Sharif, wife of Pakistan Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif, in the Blue Room of the White House, Oct. 23, 2013. The poems were read by Billy Collins, an American poet, and Sojourner Ahebee, a student poet (Photo by Amanda Lucidon)


Reuters: Obama to chide Republicans on spending cuts at school event

President Barack Obama will take a swipe at austerity-minded Republicans on Friday ahead of a looming budget rematch, urging against the backdrop of a model school that spending, rather than belt-tightening, is key to economic growth.

Lawmakers are girding for a conference starting Wednesday aimed at reconciling vastly different spending plans put forward by the Democratic-controlled Senate and the Republican-led House of Representatives.

Obama will use a speech at the Pathways in Technology Early College High School in Brooklyn, New York, whose technology curriculum he has praised as a beacon for the future, to contrast his budget priorities with Republicans.

More here



Very happily, I missed the Chris Hayes/Joan Walsh/Ezra Klein chat on MSNBC – any one of those three on my TV would have been too much, but all of them at the same time? Ugh. Any way, Tommy Christopher on the ‘discussion’ here



Arkansas Times: More than 60,000 Arkansans have enrolled in the “private option” for Medicaid

In testimony before the Joint Public Health Committee at the capitol, the Department of Human Services released the latest figures on enrollment in the “private option” for Medicaid expansion. Through October 19, more than 60,000 have enrolled, and more than 4,000 have submitted applications, pending an eligibility check from DHS.

To put these numbers in perspective: the “private option” has already reduced the number of uninsured adults (18-64) in Arkansas by almost 14 percent.

More here





Boston Globe: ‘Remarkable’ mental health care changes near, Biden says

Vice President Joe Biden said Wednesday that the country is on the cusp of what he called “remarkable changes” in the treatment of mental illness.

Speaking at a forum on mental health to mark the 50th anniversary of President John F. Kennedy’s signing of the Community Mental Health Act, Biden said the human brain is the new frontier for exploration in 2013.

… Biden said that ongoing research also holds promise for returning veterans struggling with post-traumatic stress. And as a result of President Barack Obama’s health care law, he said, more people have access to care for mental illness because the law bars insurance companies from denying coverage due to preexisting conditions like bipolar disorder.

More here



Steve Benen: Full of sound and fury signifying nothing

The political goals for congressional Republicans going into yesterday’s “Obamacare” hearing were relatively straightforward: (1) use website troubles to question the Obama administration’s competence; (2) hope the publicity might discourage consumers from getting coverage to which they’re entitled; and (3) pretend they care about substance, not grandstanding.

It wouldn’t have even been that difficult. The Affordable Care Act’s website really has suffered from systemic flaws and plenty of folks really are frustrated. If Republicans wanted to maintain the pretense that consumer access matters to them, there are actual, legitimate complaints to raise.

But they blew it.

More here


Yet more astonishingly ignorant ‘reporting’ from CBS:


Steve Benen: Raising Medicare age eligibility doesn’t work

Talk of Medicare “reforms” have become a familiar political refrain, though the word doesn’t always mean the same thing to everything. The Affordable Care Act, for example, includes cost-saving reforms for the Medicare system that Republicans endorsed, then condemned, then endorsed again. For their part, GOP lawmakers frequently push ideas such as expansive “means testing.”

And then there’s raising the Medicare eligibility age, which is a perennial favorite on the right, and which President Obama was reportedly willing to entertain as part of the 2011 “Grand Bargain” talks before congressional Republicans rejected the offer. It nevertheless remains a key GOP “reform” goal, premised on the assumption that a higher eligibility age would save a fortune.

It wouldn’t….

More here





Steve Benen: N.C. Republican ousted following ‘Daily Show’ interview

…. Don Yelton, a Republican Party official in North Carolina, thought it’d be a good idea to appear on “The Daily Show” and defend his party’s new voter-suppression law. It didn’t turn out well for him or the state GOP.

If you missed the interview, it’s a doozy. Yelton, who’s practically a caricature of himself, told Aasif Mandvi the new state voting law is intended to tilt elections in Republicans’ favor, used the “n” word, referenced “lazy black people that wants the government to give them everything,” and said, in all seriousness, that one of his “best friends is black.”

… The controversy coincides with a new effort, launched just this week, in which the North Carolina Republican Party is trying to expand its outreach to the African-American community.

Full post here



Greg Sargent: The implosion of the GOP brand, in one chart

See here


They’re eating each other alive, part 876:

TPM: Americans For Tax Reform’s Policy Director Calls Tea Party ‘Freaking Retarded’

Americans For Tax Reform Tax Policy Director Ryan Ellis said on Wednesday night that he’s starting to think tea party activists are “freaking retarded.”

…. The tweet provoked ire from conservatives…

More here


President Obama meets with Chicago Mayor Rahm Emanuel in the Oval Office, Oct. 24, 2013 (Photo by Lawrence Jackson)






A staff member walks President Obama’s family dogs, Bo and Sunny on the South Lawn of the White House, October 24


A Year Ago Today ….. and what a day – Tampa in the morning:

Then on to Richmond:

Then off to Chicago to vote:

President  Obama casts his ballot during early voting at the Martin Luther King Jr. Community Center in Chicago, Oct. 25, 2012 (Photo by Pete Souza)

Then on to Cleveland for the coolest rally entry in the history of rally entries:



149 Responses to “Rise and Shine”

  1. 1 4morefor44
    October 25, 2013 at 9:33 am


    • October 25, 2013 at 9:35 am

      4moooooooooooooore! Morning everyone!

      • October 25, 2013 at 10:12 am

        What a perfect way to start my day; seeing all those wonderful pictures of of fantastic President compaigning last year. Bringa a smile to my face and a tear to my eye. Are we blessed or what to have this President?!

    • 4 a4alice
      October 25, 2013 at 9:42 am

      look at you go 4More! congrats! Holy moly chips look at all this. I gotta go back and see. Here’s something I saw go by on my TL. It is Jon Stewart (which we get irritated with), but he does a very good job at explaining the plight of people trapped in red states that haven’t opted in to ACA. It’s really unfortunate for these people and it’s all because of their governors.

  2. 5 JER
    October 25, 2013 at 9:39 am

    President Barack Obama will visit Brooklyn’s cutting-edge Pathways in Technology Early College High School [today] … to discuss preparing students for the global economy. … “It’s beyond joy — we’re thrilled the President is coming to visit,” P-TECH principal Rashid Davis said. …
    In his … State of the Union shout-out, Obama said that every American child should have access to opportunities like those available at P-TECH. … Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/obama-visit-p-tech-brooklyn-article-1.1492323#ixzz2ijvwfvVJ

  3. 6 hopefruit2
    October 25, 2013 at 9:39 am

    G’morning Chips, TOD, lurkers, everyone and congrats 4more on #1 🙂

  4. 8 Vicki
    October 25, 2013 at 9:41 am

    Hey, 4more!
    Here’s my good morning message: ACA progressing well. More and more people signing up successfully, finding out they can get good healthcare that they can afford.
    All the rest is Irrelevant.
    Peace love and the best President ever.

  5. 9 hopefruit2
    October 25, 2013 at 9:41 am

    Well, we here at TOD have known this for some time now — as Jovie calls it, MSNBainCapital…

  6. 11 JER
    October 25, 2013 at 9:41 am

    Good Morning Chips, all TODers, and a “Woof, Woof” out to Danny, Cheyenne, and other TODDogs.

  7. 12 hopefruit2
    October 25, 2013 at 9:45 am

  8. 13 hopefruit2
    October 25, 2013 at 9:53 am


  9. 14 japa21
    October 25, 2013 at 10:10 am

    GM all fellow TODvillians. I see where the magical 22,000,000 mark will be hit very soon, even possibly today. Since Chips is too occupied with her new boyfriend, we will probably have to party without her. Not all bad, as it means we won’t have to put up with cheesy puffs.

    As much as we don’t want the Healthcare.gov issues to dominate the news cycle, we would be remiss if we dismissed them as unimportant. They are important because the media has made them important. Unfortunately, in all the talk I have heard about it, it is only in a few written articles where I have really seen anyone even attempt to describe just how complex the site is, all the different connections between different data bases that need to be made and why the state based sites are working much more smoothing that the federal site, which is because of that complexity.

    Plus, how privatization has also contributed to this mess, including laws requiring the government to go with the lowest bidder (passed by GOP btw). With the hours and hours of outrage, I doubt that less than 2% of the time has actually been discussing the actual issues behind the problems.

    • 15 japa21
      October 25, 2013 at 10:12 am

    • October 25, 2013 at 10:25 am

      😆 “Since Chips is too occupied with her new boyfriend, we will probably have to party without her.”

      Oh no you won’t! Although, you know me, I usually sleep through major events.

  10. 27 a4alice
    October 25, 2013 at 10:15 am

    That Steve Benen article up top really illustrates how useless the GOP has become.

    • 28 57andfemale
      October 25, 2013 at 12:42 pm

      And unfortunately in this poisonous political climate, we can’t have a calm, helpful conversation on what the real problems are and how to fix them. The military is riddled with expensive equipment that doesn’t work, needs constant readjustment, redesign and no one bats an eye. But complex health care (that is ONLY complex because it was the only way to get any health care at all) is supposed to function perfectly for everyone, immediately.

      I don’t see how this country can continue to function like this without serious deterioration.

  11. 29 hopefruit2
    October 25, 2013 at 10:16 am

  12. 30 hopefruit2
    October 25, 2013 at 10:20 am

    • 31 57andfemale
      October 25, 2013 at 10:30 am

      Thanks, hopefruit!

    • 32 57andfemale
      October 25, 2013 at 11:01 am

      I do wish that they’d stopped asking for information once they knew I’d had a cold in 1987.

      ACA is a very different metric.

    • 33 57andfemale
      October 25, 2013 at 11:05 am

      And what was particularly hilarious – it took me over a week to compile the info, faxes back and forth from the doctor, etc. Questions after questions.

      Once I’d hit ‘send’ on the application I was rejected within a half an hour.

      ‘Free market insurance’ at work. Republicans were FINE with that, weren’t they?

      • 34 hopefruit2
        October 25, 2013 at 11:08 am

        Yup, I don’t recall EVER hearing any complaints from the GOP or MSM about previous insurance applications… Hmmm…

  13. 35 a4alice
    October 25, 2013 at 10:23 am

    oh this is interesting. my husband was just talking about this last night. he suggested just lowering the eligibility age yearly until everyone is covered. I thought why not? That’s one way to get around these dumb governors who won’t serve their constituents.

    • 36 57andfemale
      October 25, 2013 at 12:02 pm

      We were thisclose to Medicare for 55 and over being included in ACA. It had originally been a Joe Lieberman idea. But as soon as ‘liberals’ liked it, he pulled his support and it died.

      That petty little man directed his entire career to hurting liberals when they cost him the Democratic nomination. Nothing to do with principle or decency.

      As I recall, there would have been a flood of money going into Medicare from this age group. yes, they would have used some health care. But they also would have been healthier when they were over 65. It was a win-win and that petty little twerp ruined it because he had a personal score to settle with all ‘liberals’.

  14. 39 desertflower
    October 25, 2013 at 10:27 am

    Happy Friday!! I got to sleep in this morning…day off work today….was luxurious!! Great R/S Chips. Still not finished reading yet, but wanted to make sure you saw the treat I left for you last night! You were off to sleep already when I posted this….so I decided to dig it up again and share when I KNOW you’re awake! GM!!! ( I’m not even IMPLYING this will be you:)

  15. 45 jziglar
    October 25, 2013 at 10:28 am

    The media is so ridiculous. Medicaid expansion is part of the ACA for certain low income individuals and families. The expansion will not effect the exchanges in a negative way, and this continues to show that the media does not understand policy details.

    • October 25, 2013 at 11:05 am

      I could not believe my ears this morning when I heard the doom and gloom on the all-news radio station I listen to in Los Angeles @knx1070.

      CBS interviewed people (a doctor, a professor) saying how ACA is doomed if people don’t enroll in private plans.

      It is so frustrating that our MSM carries water for voodoo economics (Reagan) and the Koch-funded astro-turf “tea party.”

      It is now part of the MSM lexicon to equate HeathCare.gov to ACA. That the website shows Dems are incompetent in governing.

      JHC. I need to take my own advice and not turn on the radio or TV.

  16. 47 dotster3
    October 25, 2013 at 10:36 am

    I’m noticing a big, united MSM gang-up on Maryland AG Gansler in an attempt to wreck his Gov. chances, I presume. He got caught up in a teenage drinking story, which any parent who has ever had teenagers can sympathize with and relate to. His 19 yr. old son was with a group of h.s. srs. whose parents rented a beach house for sr. week, was chaperoned by 2 parents each night——and there’s a photo of Gansler there with the kids one night. I remember similar occasions, and you deal the best you can. In fact, now I remember I was at a lake house for sr. week back in the day with a little bit of partying going on. 🙂 It’s been going on since time began. And I remember one weekend night my oldest daughter when she was in h.s. asked if she could have a “few friends over” and within about 20 minutes, we had about 100 teens in our basement—-the word must have gone out—-and all must have had beers stashed in their coat pockets because nothing was in evidence as they paraded thru our house to go downstairs, but it became very evident shortly. We knew most of the kids and let them stay and frolic for awhile, but got worried about the driving and told them after a bit it was time to go—-which most of them thought too early. Anyhoo—–looked to me that the attacks on Gansler, who I don’t know much about, were over the top and righteous and naive and looked politically motivated to me.

    • 48 desertflower
      October 25, 2013 at 10:54 am

      Yes…I agree. I think the Purity Police are behind this….bet THEIR closets are full of skeletons! You know, kids don’t drink OR have sex….

  17. 49 desertflower
    October 25, 2013 at 10:56 am

    OMG. http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2013/10/25/2835741/virginia-tech-cuccinelli-mcauliffe-guns/

    Virginia Attorney General Ken Cuccinelli II (R) boasted at Virginia Tech, site of the 2007 shootings that killed 32 people, that he opposed universal background checks and was proud of his “A” rating from the National Rifle Association. Terry McAuliffe, his Democratic opponent for Governor, vowed to support efforts to keep guns out of the hands of violent criminals and vowed to prioritize the safety of students over the group’s ratings.

    • 50 desertflower
      October 25, 2013 at 10:57 am

      A commenter on the site called him “Cuckoo-nelli” PERFECT!

    • 51 desertflower
      October 25, 2013 at 11:32 am

      So here is the bottom line.

      When you read a news account which cites, “unnamed sources” and “a senior defense official” and “a senior military leader” and other such anonymous sources, you are often (though not always) being fed a line. A polite lie on the journalist’s part, but the problem is, you have not been let in on the lie. It is a well defined pirouette between journalists, political public affairs officers in all of the federal agencies, and the professional civil servants and military officers who serve at the direction of our political leaders. What happens is that there will be a press briefing (not a conference, that is something different) during which there are two parts, the “on the record” parts, and then the “background” briefing. In a briefing usually only the standing, regular, accredited press outlets are there, and all of them operate under these same “house rules” I am about to describe. Left, Right, Center, the journalists in DC who cover the White House, State, and DoD, abide by the rules, because if they do not they will lose that most precious commodity — access.

      http://www.esquire.com/blogs/politics/anonymous-sources-in-dc-journalism-102413 h/t Balloon Juice

  18. October 25, 2013 at 10:57 am

    Good Friday morning, Chips, Danny and TODville. Hope everyone has some great weekend plans.

    Oh boy, wouldn’t you just LOVE to be able to hear PBO’s remarks tonight at these private fundraisers!! I bet he’s going to have some choice and hilarious words to share!!

  19. 53 a4alice
    October 25, 2013 at 10:58 am


    • 54 utaustinliberal
      October 25, 2013 at 11:43 am


    • 55 misspat
      October 25, 2013 at 12:10 pm

      Will his one best Black friend go fishing with him? They always have a Black friend.

      • 56 a4alice
        October 25, 2013 at 12:15 pm

        when Yelton said that very thing during the interview the studio audience went dead silent and then groaned their disapproval. They knew exactly what this guy’s about. Then the interviewer (nuts~can’t think of his name) asked, “You know we can HEAR you, right?” Just amazing.

  20. 57 hopefruit2
    October 25, 2013 at 10:58 am

    Heh…PBO’s nomination of Yellin (among other things including his Syria Success and failure to “cave” on the ACA during the shutdown) is probably what ticked Ezra off – it ruined many a manuscript he had penned and was ready to release…

  21. 58 hopefruit2
    October 25, 2013 at 10:59 am

    WTF?!?!? The “Obamobsession” continues in the media….

  22. 59 desertflower
    October 25, 2013 at 11:00 am

    🙂 http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/the-rights-realization-websites-are-fixable

    Privately, certain Republicans express concern with the party’s decision to focus so much attention on a website that could very well be fixed over the next few months, instead of calling attention to other potentially problematic aspects of the law. And polls show support for Republicans remains way down, while support for Obamacare is still ticking up.
    I get the sense that GOP officials, feeling desperate after their party’s standing went into free fall after their government shutdown, saw website glitches as a life-preserver. Don’t ask too many questions, they said, just hold on before we sink even further.

    But as the storm subsides, Republicans find themselves adrift with an unhelpful floatation device. They’re not only attacking a health care law that’s far more popular than they are, they’re also relying heavily on a problem with a finite end. Assuming the website issues can be resolved in a reasonable amount of time, GOP lawmakers will be left with the “We still don’t like it” talking point, which the American mainstream probably won’t find especially persuasive.

    Must suck to be this stupid.

    • 60 Lovepolitics2008
      October 25, 2013 at 12:10 pm

      They HAVE to rely on problems with a “finite end” because they don’t have ANYTHING ELSE. Republicans don’t have ANYTHING SUBSTANTIVE to offer for solving problems.

      Prominent republicans are either religious fanatics or businessmen. Religious fanatics are not in touch with reality so they’re useless. As for the business people, their only expertise is on how to make money for themselves. There’s this conventional meme that people good at making money are experts in economics. NOT TRUE. Business and economy are two very different things.

      So, the republican elite doesn’t have in its ranks a lot of economists, and on top of that they don’t have many experts in anything, be it healthcare, climate, computer science…. you name it…

      We shouldn’t be surprised that the republican party doesn’t have any real solutions to the problems America has to confront. They don’t have in their ranks the BRAIN POWER to come up with good policy.

  23. 61 andogriff
    October 25, 2013 at 11:01 am

    Thanks for the excellent R & S Ms Chips! Congrats on first 4more, and although it seems I have only time to lurk and catch up these days, I am so grateful for all the articles, excellent photos and full coverage of the latest news. Hope you are having a wonderful time getting to know Danny, Ms Chips, please send more photos when you have time, he is gorgeous! Hope everyone has a great Friday and a lovely weekend.

  24. October 25, 2013 at 11:02 am

    I’m so freakin’ SICK of these outrageous ploys to impede our nation’s progress!!!!!!!!! SICK of it!!

  25. 65 hopefruit2
    October 25, 2013 at 11:02 am

    Paging Ezra Klein who seems MIA on this matter….

    • 66 Allison
      October 25, 2013 at 11:16 am

      Ezra’s at home penning additional anti ACA crap!

      • 67 hopefruit2
        October 25, 2013 at 11:51 am

        Now he’s backpedaling and “advising” everyone to calm down about ACA – after he spent the last 2 weeks leading the hysteria. SMDH.

        • 68 Lovepolitics2008
          October 25, 2013 at 12:17 pm

          I’m really disappointed in Ezra Klein. He had the potential to become a serious journalist. He’s spent too much time with the inflated egos of the Washington press corps. He’s becoming one of them.

  26. October 25, 2013 at 11:04 am

    Gooood Mooooorning all you O’s!!!! What a great getting up day round the TOD campfire!!!

    A year ago today PBO wore my most favorite tie in his wardrobe. It has since been retired, or at the very least resigned to the back of the tie rack. (Yes, I keep track of my favorites).

    So it’s the eleventy billionth day of glitchy gotcha gate and all is still well. Though try as they might, even eavesdropping on Madam Merkel’s Ministrations is taking a back seat to the never ending saga of ‘How Healthcare Happens’

  27. 70 a4alice
    October 25, 2013 at 11:05 am

    What TX and the rest of these states that have introduced Voter ID Laws is bound to get the ire of the American people. This law in TX has affected people in ways they did not even realize. Let this bite the GOP (and don’t forget SCOTUS who turned it over) right in the tuckus.

  28. October 25, 2013 at 11:08 am


    Thanks for this post.

    What uplifting photos and videos.

    The last photo is really something else. The little girl is just about the most gorgeous person I’ve ever seen, her Dad looks elated and there are no words for the joyous expression on the red-haired lady in the lower left.

    Love this post! Thanks.

  29. 84 debz
    October 25, 2013 at 11:36 am

    Great R&S and that rally in Cleveland was the coolest ever!!

  30. October 25, 2013 at 11:55 am


    I’m at work against my better judgment. Well, I’m at work because there’s only me and the librarian I charitably call “useless” here. Can I just say I hate being sick?

  31. 103 utaustinliberal
    October 25, 2013 at 11:55 am

    Great Rise and Shine Chiparoo.

    I loooooove this law.

  32. 107 hopefruit2
    October 25, 2013 at 12:01 pm

  33. 108 amk for obama
    October 25, 2013 at 12:02 pm

  34. 109 hopefruit2
    October 25, 2013 at 12:03 pm

  35. 110 desertflower
    October 25, 2013 at 12:08 pm


    G.O.P. Roots for Failure

    In theory, lawmakers hope that government programs work well, and if they don’t, try to fix them. In theory, our representatives hope that government agencies carry out their missions smoothly, and if something goes wrong, try to figure out what happened to avoid making the same mistake in the future.

    Obviously that’s not how things work in the United States, where one of the two parties doesn’t even believe in government. Republicans want to shrink government until it’s small enough to drown in a bathtub! They think there’s nothing scarier than the prospect of a government employee trying to help! With beliefs like those, it’s not surprising that — with disturbing frequency — they root for failure in order to score points.

  36. 113 Jovie
    October 25, 2013 at 12:08 pm

    • 114 57andfemale
      October 25, 2013 at 12:48 pm

      They can keep that statistic quiet. Medicare Part D was a much smaller program, only affecting seniors on Medicare. This is not a statistic I would cheer about.

      • 115 ERICFIVE
        October 25, 2013 at 3:18 pm

        Your negativity is not warranted. There are 49 million seniors on Medicare. There are 44 million people without health insurance. So the numbers are comparable for the two programs.

        • 116 57andfemale
          October 25, 2013 at 3:50 pm

          fair enough. Actually I thought about that as soon as I hit ‘post’. I wanted to retract almost immediately. However, it isn’t just about the number of customers but the complexity of the program but there were a gazillion Medicare Part D programs covering different medications, etc. I don’t know if the initial rollout had that information on the website or not.

          But EVERY senior was required to get Medicare Part D as I recall (how’s THAT for socialism, Republicans!) so every senior would have been involved in the process.

          I stand corrected.

  37. 117 amk for obama
    October 25, 2013 at 12:09 pm

  38. October 25, 2013 at 12:16 pm

    Joy Reid is hosting for Alex Wagners show now on MSNBC.

  39. 120 hopefruit2
    October 25, 2013 at 12:24 pm

    • October 25, 2013 at 12:33 pm

      End of November it’s projected to be fully fixed date but will also continue to improve considerably in the meantime as problems are fixed. Insurers receiving bad data is a problem are the top of list of problems to be solved.

      Also, current contractor QSSI, part of UnitedHealthCare, will be managing the overhaul. This means there will be no learning curve to get up to speed with the issues.

  40. 124 hopefruit2
    October 25, 2013 at 12:28 pm

    Ezra Klein is more than just two-faced. While he’s telling people to stop freaking out about the ACA, he’s busy feeding the hysteria.

    He first tweeted this:

    And then 30 minutes later, tweets this:

    Any questions? You understand why you shouldn’t take this self-serving prick seriously? Okay, good. I won’t be posting anything more about Klein as regards to the ACA, because we all know what his agenda is now.

  41. 131 hopefruit2
    October 25, 2013 at 12:32 pm

  42. 132 japa21
    October 25, 2013 at 12:37 pm

    • 133 57andfemale
      October 25, 2013 at 1:15 pm

      States and municipalities need to step in and make the other options available and get the word out. There are states and cities that are doing this, but it is inconsistent. IL is absymsal. Chicago is a black hole with no information unless you are on the internet. Our governor took a 33M grant and is using it for social media only. That does not help the working poor who desperately need to know about ACA and how to enroll.

  43. 134 hopefruit2
    October 25, 2013 at 12:41 pm

    • 135 57andfemale
      October 25, 2013 at 12:54 pm

      I’m happy to hear that the errors getting info to the insurance companies is a top priority. Takes away the NEXT RWNJ talking point.

  44. 136 japa21
    October 25, 2013 at 12:44 pm

  45. 138 desertflower
    October 25, 2013 at 12:53 pm

    Stuck in my head…thought I’d share:)

    • 139 mtmarilyn
      October 25, 2013 at 1:18 pm

      In case I miss tomorrow Have a wonderful birthday DF. We are all fighting colds up here and I have been fighting wordpress. Both are better.

  46. October 25, 2013 at 12:59 pm

    YES, the TRUTH will come out someday.

  47. 141 desertflower
    October 25, 2013 at 1:02 pm


    Those with a selective distaste for government

    It seems Tea Partiers’ distaste for government is selective. They like the Centers for Disease Control, for example, about as much as everyone else, and also back NASA in large numbers.

    A majority of Tea Partiers even like the FDA, suggesting they like the idea of federal officials helping ensure safety of food and medicine.

    But this wing of the Republican Party doesn’t like a variety of other federal agencies that provide domestic services, including the Department of Homeland Security (39%), the Department of Education (29%), the Justice Department (28%), the HHS (26%), the EPA (22%), and of course the IRS (15%).

    Why support the CDC and the FDA, and not the EPA? Probably because far-right arguments tend to ignore the first two.

    I also wonder how much common conservative conspiracy theories shape these attitudes. Maybe Tea Partiers don’t like the Justice Department because of “Fast & Furious” and reject HHS because of “Obamacare” apoplexy?

  48. October 25, 2013 at 1:04 pm

    Oh yikes, we need a new post, gimme a minute or 36.

  49. 143 JER
    October 25, 2013 at 1:09 pm

  50. 144 hopefruit2
    October 25, 2013 at 1:24 pm

    Something tells me that Chips will drop the new thread the minute I walk away – so I’m claiming FIRST now. Thanks for your understanding! See you all on the new thread! 🙂

  51. 147 JER
    October 25, 2013 at 1:40 pm

    | Live Now | President Obama departs for New York: http://www.cbsnews.com/liveFeed/widget.shtml

  52. 149 Jovie
    October 25, 2013 at 2:04 pm

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