A Picture Or Two


President Barack Obama meets with Will Ferrell in the Oval Office to congratulate him on recently winning the Mark Twain Prize for American Humor, Oct. 21, 2011. Ferrell’s wife, Viveca Paulin, is at right. (Official White House Photo by Pete Souza)



President Barack Obama hugs First Lady Michelle Obama following the third presidential debate with Gov. Mitt Romney, at Lynn University in Boca Raton, Fla., Oct. 22, 2012. (Official White House Photo by Pete Souza)



First Lady Michelle Obama greets USO honorees and their families in the Vermeil Room of the White House, Oct. 5, 2011. (Official White House Photo by Samantha Appleton)



President Barack Obama stands with the 2010 National Medal of Science recipients in the Blue Room of the White House, Oct. 21, 2011. Pictured, from left, are: Dr. Richard A. Tapia, Dr. Peter J. Stang, Dr. Shu Chien, Dr. Srinivasa S.R. Varadhan, Dr. Jacqueline K. Barton, Dr. Ralph L. Brinster, and Dr. Rudolf Jaenisch. (Official White House Photo by Pete Souza)



President Barack Obama signs books following a discussion on women and the economy with families in the backyard of of a home in Seattle, Wash., Oct. 21, 2010. (Official White House Photo by Pete Souza)



President Barack Obama takes an apple from a bowl prior to meeting with, from left, Sen. Dick Durbin (D-Ill.), Sen. Patty Murray (D-Wash.), Sen. Harry Reid (D-Nev.), and Sen. Charles Schumer (D-N.Y.), in the Oval Office, Oct. 22, 2009. (Official White House Photo by Pete Souza)



President Barack Obama hugs Sen. John Kerry (D-Mass.), who recently returned from Afghanistan, prior to their meeting in the Oval Office, Oct. 21, 2009. (Official White House Photo by Pete Souza)



President Barack Obama jokes with personal aide Reggie Love, Trip Director Marvin Nicholson and others backstage, prior to his remarks at a Small Business Administration event at the Metropolitan Archives in Hyattsville, Md., Oct. 21, 2009. (Official White House Photo by Pete Souza)


114 Responses to “A Picture Or Two”

  1. October 23, 2013 at 1:52 pm

    Good Afternoon TOD on this hump day.

  2. 16 utaustinliberal
    October 23, 2013 at 2:01 pm


  3. 19 utaustinliberal
    October 23, 2013 at 2:04 pm

    Heads up.

  4. 20 Nena20409
    October 23, 2013 at 2:06 pm

    Ain’t No Mountain high enough for VC 🙂
    Ain’t No River Wide enough for VC 😉
    Hey, hey, to keep VC from her TOD Gold….

    Congrats VC ❗

  5. 24 LDS
    October 23, 2013 at 2:10 pm

    Congratulations VC!
    I was talking to myself again on the last post.
    Mr. Bobfr, if you are still here I left you a thank you.

    Hello, Ms. Chips. Danny keeping you busy, huh? He is so cute. You are tugging at my heart with those pics. I am trying to stay focus. I look at the pics real fast. I grew up in a house with dogs all breeds and they were free to all of our big backyard.
    I just cannot bring myself to do this in an apartment (just me).

  6. 25 japa21
    October 23, 2013 at 2:16 pm

    • 26 ERICFIVE
      October 23, 2013 at 2:46 pm

      I think that is the goal. The MSM started the “post-truth” era during the 2012 Presidential campaign when it allowed Mitt Romney to lie with impunity. However, I think that it is only Republicans that can lie without consequences, while Democrats will be called liars even when telling the truth (lets not forget Washington Post fact checker saying PBO was lying about lower deficit today, due to the probability it will rise in the future).

  7. October 23, 2013 at 2:23 pm

    An interview with our favorite photographer:

  8. 29 vcprezofan2
    October 23, 2013 at 2:26 pm

    HELP!!! VIDEO HELP NEEDED! (Thank you to whoever shared this on the previous feed – rushing, so can’t check right now.)

    We have got to have someone who knows how, divvy up this excellent TEACHING VIDEO by Nancy Smash! Please-oh-please-oh please! You have only to listen to it to see what I mean. She has beautifully broken down talking points that I/we could retweet over and over – all on their own – in response to some of the garbage MSM spouts on twitter. You could cut after each question and answer, maybe.

    PLEASE! I am begging you. I have to go out now, but I’m even willing to listen again (and I don’t usually ‘do’ videos longer than 5 mins without real incentives) and give you cut off points. BUT I REALLY DO WANT YOU TO LISTEN FOR YOURSELVES! I can’t promise you anything else as I don’t like to make promises I cannot keep, but I sure would TRY to be good quiet in the village….for a while, anyway.



  9. October 23, 2013 at 2:30 pm

    Great video on Obamacare from the WH. Please share widely!!

  10. 31 CEB
    October 23, 2013 at 2:37 pm

    Last year this time we were in the final hectic, nerve-wracking days of the election. What a relief when it was finally over and we could celebrate 4 more years with the most transformational (in a good way) President ever! Sometimes for kicks and giggles (and because I am not as nice as PBO), I go to Youtube and watch Karl Rove’s freak-out, the disappointment on the faces of Romney’s supporters and the chagrin and stunned disbelief of the GOP and their media enablers. Their open disdain of our president, their sense of entitlement, the fact that Romney never considered that he could lose (the premature website naming him president-elect, the gown and china that had already been picked out, the fireworks that had been purchased, etc.) and so much more of their arrogance that was on display throughout the campaign, as well as the voter suppression (I live in Florida), all made PBO’s victory much sweeter. So I did not have that moment of empathy that you have for the losing side that fought so hard and honorably, with the understanding that i could have gone the other way. These were truly hateful people and I rejoiced in their loss. The good guy won despite the lies, hate-mongering and dirty money and the country is the better for it.

    • October 23, 2013 at 3:02 pm

      I was a nervous wreck before last year’s election.

      Could not stomach the thought of R-money, with 4 of 5 sons raking in big bucks on their name and connections — will give his son a doctor a pass — as President. How humiliating it would be to see this cringe-worthy symbol of entitlement and bullying and just plain weirdness — Seamus, anyone — representing our country.

      Thank God the pundits were wrong. Jefferson Obama and this site allowed me to maintain my sanity.

      Florida really needs to get rid of your parasite Governor:

  11. 33 Nena20409
    October 23, 2013 at 2:42 pm

    Okay I am confused now…..

    Durbin recounted over the weekend that a House Republican told Obama at a recent closed-door meeting that he “cannot even stand to look at” him. But White House spokesman Jay Carney said during his daily press briefing that, after touching base with a participant in the meeting, Durbin’s account is not right.

    “It did not happen,” Carney said.

    • October 23, 2013 at 3:05 pm

      I hope Jay is correct.

      Very disheartening to think that even the slimiest TP congresscritter could speak that way to our President.

      But this is still true (posted on the previous thread):

      • October 23, 2013 at 3:16 pm

        So…throw Durbin under the bus? Is he crazy?

      • 36 jziglar
        October 23, 2013 at 3:19 pm

        I think Durbin is telling the truth and the White house is trying to end the story so it doesn’t become a bigger issue. After all the racism and disrespect I believe it.

        • October 23, 2013 at 5:19 pm

          I agree with you. Why would Durbin lie about that? And why is it unbelievable that racist T’Baggers would say something disrespectful to President Obama? Their hatred for him is real.

        • 38 Lovepolitics2008
          October 23, 2013 at 5:20 pm

          Senator Durbin is an honest man. At worse, maybe he’s distorted facts a little and just heard a republican in the room saying “I can’t even stand looking at him”.

          However, if indded the republican spoke in the face of the President and the WH is denying it, I’m not happy. They’re throwing Senator Durbin, a friend of the president, under the bus. There are means to diffuse a situation without denying facts.

      • October 23, 2013 at 6:09 pm

        I think Durbin might have stretched the truth there a bit – to be honest. In fact, I tweeted as much a few days ago.

        The GOP would NEVER say that to PBO’s face – they probably said it behind his back. These people are COWARDS. In front PBO’s face, they are clamoring to get his autograph.

        The GOP’s attitude towards PBO is not disrespect as many people seem to think. It’s a combination of jealousy, FEAR and resentment. Those elements are not borne out of disrespect – they arise from a place of grudging admiration and wishing that one had those same qualities, accompanied by a reluctant recognition that one does not, cannot, and never will have those qualities. Notice how the GOP tries to copy PBO in every way whenever they feel they have a “good” candidate. Earlier this year, a GOP source claimed that Ted Cruz was going to the the GOP’s “Obama.”

        Why didn’t they say that Cruz was going to their “Romney” or “Reagan,” or “Bush?”

    • 40 Nena20409
      October 23, 2013 at 3:17 pm


      “Senator Durbin’s accusation is a serious one, and it appears to have been invented out of thin air,” Brendan Buck said in a statement. “The senator should disclose who told him this account of events, retract his reckless allegation immediately, and apologize.”

      • 41 57andfemale
        October 23, 2013 at 3:30 pm

        Why don’t Dem’s act like this? Why don’t Dem’s make Republicans ‘prove’ their lies or apologize immediately?

        • October 23, 2013 at 3:35 pm

          Don’t get me started on the Democrats. Mercy! They make me so maddd!

          • 43 57andfemale
            October 23, 2013 at 3:37 pm


            • October 23, 2013 at 3:45 pm

              57, I spent the past 5 days writing a personal letter to every Democrat in Congress. Funny, that we should learn about this insult to the President today, because one of my themes was their inability to insist that their President be respected. I had to talk about their failure to defend Social Security and Medicare, as well as how they have abandoned the middle class themselves because they have stopped pushing for jobs…they should never have stopped pushing for jobs.

              This idea they have about rising about it all, is a crock of sh** to me.

              • 45 57andfemale
                October 23, 2013 at 4:57 pm

                Wow. That is one serious commitment to calling out these idiots.

                Jeanne Shaheen and Joe Manchin are bitching about the mandate now. Dem’s wringing their hands. Our alleged liberal ‘pundits’ are deplorable.

                I have a bad chest cold, my husband collapsed on Saturday during the middle of the night. I would love to just try to help my husband, deal with my chest cold – but instead I have to tweet and scream and research and rebut lies because we just can’t let up. Not for a single second.

                You’re a treasure.

      • 49 57andfemale
        October 23, 2013 at 3:44 pm

        I guess Jay Carney denied Durbin’s claim.

        Nice going, guys. Give the jackals red meat when we need to look unified and competent.

    • 51 Claire
      October 23, 2013 at 3:18 pm

      You have to wonder why Durbin would even say something like this… even if it were true, if the POTUS did not share it, why would Durbin? The mainstream media is about sensationalism, hype, and profit. They do nothing positive for the American people. They often rely on anonymous and unreliable sources and are more interested in causing hysteria than in reporting the facts.

      If we had a real media they would be informing the public on the successes of the ACA registration, letting people know how people are saving money, and letting people know what they can do if they do experience difficulty when trying to register. They would be continually focused on informing uninsured Americans as to how they can get signed up for this historic program. They would provide information to the public like a free press should instead of spreading gossip.

      • October 23, 2013 at 3:26 pm

        I suspect that like many of us, Durbin is simply sick of them. Pundits are always suggesting that the President isn’t friendly and accommodating…I suppose Durbin wants to set the record straight. Even the most clear-thinking individuals have tried to write Republican behavior off as driven by ideology. Such a confrontation proves what we have always known, it is absolutely personal.

      • 53 Nena20409
        October 23, 2013 at 3:34 pm

        Durbin should have Named who the racist was……then the media would have gone after him/her. Carney and team are always skittish about discussing race issues. This pres doesn’t want to devote his time on that……So Durbin needs to Not coddle this racist and speak out.

        I remember when Durbin spoke the truth about something on the senate floor and the media went after him and he had to Cry on the senate floor apologizing. Name the Racist Durbin and let the world know who it is.

  12. 55 MightyPamela
    October 23, 2013 at 3:02 pm

    Hey, everyone, only a one minute check in to let you know I am alive, just barely, sort of, kind of. I’m not staying, as I have another day of facing the daunting tasks ahead. The only thing I really want to do right now is sit with my kitty in my lap, heating pad on my legs, and read Bobfr’s thread. I have a class tonight, if I make it, and so will have to forego that luxury at present. Maybe tomorrow. Maybe not. Love to all. MP

  13. 61 57andfemale
    October 23, 2013 at 3:20 pm

    getcoveredillinois.gov/events is a list of town halls, meet and greets with navigators, etc. throughout the state. A couple of state representatives from the Chicago area are holding a few events. The Hispanic community appears to be doing a good deal of outreach in the Chicago area. I have received no literature from the mayor or my alderman or my representatives. I hope there are flyers going out to residents so they know where these events are. Otherwise you have to drill down through the website to find the info. But there are opportunities for residents to come, learn and enroll. So there is progress, although it appears to be only through the individual will of certain municipalities.

  14. October 23, 2013 at 3:21 pm

    Is everybody stuck on stupid or what? Now Janine Shaheen is crying the Republican theme…the implementation of Obamacare should be delayed. What is wrong with these people? It’s a website…not insurance…and if I hear one more Republican talk about its cost after they blew away $24 billion, I might just have a stroke.

    • 63 CEB
      October 23, 2013 at 3:29 pm

      And meanwhile, hundreds of thousands are signing on; more than any anticipated and thus the glitches. The ACA is on and everyday we are finding out more and more about how great it is. Those who matter are not listening; they are too busy applying.

    • 64 Linda
      October 23, 2013 at 3:33 pm

      I thought I read she wants the open enrollment lengthened…..

      Is this new ?

    • 65 Claire
      October 23, 2013 at 4:31 pm

      This is why Democrats need to be out there focused on sharing the GOOD stories about people who are signing up for the ACA. The POTUS knows this. Instead the Democrats are busy spreading distracting stories.

      Now Durbin has created a new media circus whose attention will be focused on proving that Democrats lie, can’t get their stories straight, falsely accuse repubs, and worse they will now try to create the story that there is division between the WH and Durbin. Just when the repubs were destroying themselves and all Democrats had to do was stand aside and let them self destruct, while we promoted the ACA, Durbin turns all the media’s attention to the different stories being told by him and the WH.

  15. 66 Alycee (@jazziz2)
    October 23, 2013 at 3:23 pm

    The White House
    Office of the Press Secretary

    For Immediate Release October 23, 2013
    Statement by the President on the Anniversary of the Attack on the U.S. Marine Barracks in Beirut, Lebanon

    Thirty years ago today, 220 Marines, 18 sailors, and 3 soldiers lost their lives to a Hizballah suicide bomber who attacked the Marine barracks in Beirut, Lebanon. Minutes later, 58 French paratroopers lost their lives when a second Hizballah suicide bomber attacked the French barracks. This despicable act of terrorism was the deadliest single-day death toll for the U.S. Marine Corps since the World War II Battle of Iwo Jima. Our Marines and their fellow service members were serving in Beirut as part of a multinational force during the Lebanese civil war, to help bring stability to a troubled region and to defend our strategic interests in the Middle East. They came in peace.

    Our 241 service members will be remembered in ceremonies at Camp Lejeune in North Carolina, at the U.S. Embassy in Lebanon, and in homes around the United States. We join with the families and their loved ones in paying tribute to the fallen and in sharing our deep appreciation for the ultimate sacrifice made in service to our nation. We also honor the courage and bravery of those warriors who survived the attack and spent days digging their brothers out of the rubble. They were faithful to their comrades in arms and served with honor and distinction in the finest tradition of the U.S. military.

    The proud history of the U.S. military continues today as our service members risk their lives around the world to promote freedom and security and to deter terrorism. We are grateful for their sacrifices and honored by their commitment to defending our nation, our citizens, and our values.

    We also renew our commitment to promoting Lebanon’s stability, sovereignty, and independence and to our partnership with the Lebanese Armed Forces. We continue to support the Lebanese people as they seek to form a government that reflects their aspirations and that will strengthen Lebanon’s ability to defend its national interests and meet its international obligations.

    • 67 Nena20409
      October 23, 2013 at 3:36 pm

      To the MSM……they remembered Reagan’s birthday. But these 241 who were killed 30 yrs ago…..Crickets,

  16. 68 Jovie
    October 23, 2013 at 3:25 pm

  17. October 23, 2013 at 3:34 pm

    Located @Lawrence’s Monday masterpiece where he explains to the world that the IRS has no authority to collect penalties for those who do not enroll in ACA and pay individual mandate (very end of the video, but watch the whole thing, it’s delicious).

    At the end of September, @Lawrence chose Ed Henry in answer to the question “WH correspondent or pinhead?” Monday night it was Jonathan Karl who was featured in the Rewrite segment, “Are you smarter than a WH correspondent?”

    So once again, GOP are spinning their wheels and MSM is dutifully not questioning why they are wasting their time pursuing the delay of something that can’t happen anyway.

    Here’s @Lawrence’s classic:

  18. 70 57andfemale
    October 23, 2013 at 3:35 pm

  19. October 23, 2013 at 3:52 pm

  20. 77 Alycee (@jazziz2)
    October 23, 2013 at 4:06 pm

    • 78 nathkatun7
      October 23, 2013 at 6:26 pm

      I thought I heard Republicans say that Benghazi was the worst terrorist act that took the lives of Americans? The late Gore Vidal was right when he talked about the United States of Amnesia.

  21. October 23, 2013 at 4:54 pm

    Now freakin’ Joe Manchin is working on legislation to delay Obamacare’s individual mandate for one year.

    I CAN’T STAND THESE PEOPLE when they only seem to be able to strike a sense of unity for a week or so. Absolutely infuriating. ARGHHHHHH.

    • 80 jziglar
      October 23, 2013 at 4:58 pm

      Joe Manchin has always been a pain and the worse kind of democrat. The guy supported delaying the Individual mandate before the shutdown and just like this proposal it will go nowhere.

    • 82 Lovepolitics2008
      October 23, 2013 at 5:31 pm

      I think President Obama will accept to delay the mandate a little bit, maybe three months, taking into account the website difficulties. If he accepts a longer delay, it will ONLY be because establishing a good system of enforcement will be longer than predicted.

      What the republicans are hoping to do is obvious: they hope to win both the HOuse and the Senate in the mid-terms so if the individual mandate is delayed one year it will be easier for them to scrap the ACA.

      • 83 Lovepolitics2008
        October 23, 2013 at 5:37 pm

        I want to add: realistically, it will be a long and hard battle to implement the ACA in all states. There will be all sorts of detours, difficulties and readjustments. Something as big and complex is difficult to implement in the best of circumstances. So when you have half of the political class in America , backed by very big money interests, dedicated to make the law fail, it means difficulties and some set-backs.

        But in the end, I’m confident that President Obama’s work and vision will win, and be vindicated.

  22. 84 57andfemale
    October 23, 2013 at 5:00 pm

  23. 85 57andfemale
    October 23, 2013 at 5:02 pm

  24. October 23, 2013 at 5:08 pm

    Michael Eric Dyson works my nerves.

  25. 89 a4alice
    October 23, 2013 at 5:12 pm

    Hey. Here’s something happy I got from one of Linda’s links at her whatisworking site

  26. 92 57andfemale
    October 23, 2013 at 5:15 pm

  27. October 23, 2013 at 5:16 pm

    Oh, dear. Sen. Durbin is sticking by his assertion about that quote. This is going to get strange.

    • 94 GGail
      October 23, 2013 at 5:22 pm

      I don’t understand what Sen Durbin had hoped to achieve when he made the statement.

      It’s a horrible thing to say out loud and even worse to repeat to the world – to what end?

      • 95 Sandy1110
        October 23, 2013 at 5:30 pm

        To expose just how unhinged and disrespectful the RW is toward this particular POTUS, so it undercuts the b.s. whining by the MSM and the RW that PBO hasn’t done enough to reach out to the Republican party.

      • 96 Vicki
        October 23, 2013 at 5:33 pm

        GGail, my bet is Senator Durbin was expressing utter frustration—-“Just look at the crap we get from GOP.”

      • 97 Lovepolitics2008
        October 23, 2013 at 5:48 pm

        Senator Durbin is, rightfully, exasperated and disgusted by the irrational and despicable behavior he has seen from many extreme republicans. And he respects President Obama and considers him a friend. Senator Durbin looks , to me, as an honest man. He is NOT a cynical manipulator ; he is sometimes emotional and tells it like it is. Wasn’t he the one who, during the battle to create the Dodd-Frank law, just lashed out at the Senate and said: “banks own this place”.

        Senator Durbin hasn’t done anything more than expressing his disgust over the disrespect towards the President. This disrespect is real and it’s time republicans are called out on it.

        If Senator Durbin doesn’t recall the incident EXACTLY as it happened, at worst he recalls it with a bit of distortion ( maybe the person said that he couldn’t stand looking at the president but didn’t say it to his face,,, I don’t know).

        If Senator Durbin describes the incident accurately, it’s a mistake for the White House to deny it. I can understand the rationale, that is not enflaming things more. But in the end, the best way is to tell the truth, and maybe accompany it with some forgiveness language, talking about emotions running high, I don’t know..

    • 98 Alycee (@jazziz2)
      October 23, 2013 at 5:26 pm

      Could be a win. Let him name the MFSB, then Jay can go to the podium tomorrow and say “in the spirit of civility, the WH wanted to close the book on it; however, now that the GOPTP is lying, yes, it happened…”

    • October 23, 2013 at 5:34 pm

      To me, the story should be about how the President had a republican escorted out by the Secret Service and invited all Republicans who didn’t know how to behave like statesmen to join him. The story should be about how the President told them they could get on the idiot box and lie, call him Kenyan, Hitler and everything else, but they couldn’t sit in his face and cast aspersions. The story should be about how the President reminded them that until January 21, 2016, The White House is HIS HOUSE and they will not disrespect his house. I need a drinK!

    • 103 dotster3
      October 23, 2013 at 5:48 pm

      My money is on Sen. Durbin in this matter. I’m in Illinois and a long time observer of Durbin, and I have never known him to be anything but straight and honest as the day is long. And he is one of President Obama’s closest friends, has been with him from the get go, was the one who escorted initially all over Illinois to introduce him to all the different areas, including daring to venture into conservative and rural downstate Illinois with him when no one knew who the heck Barack Obama was. He has been a promoter and ardent supporter of Obama longer than anyone. So I really really doubt he would lie about this. He was probably fed up with all those who keep saying that Obama is mean to the Repubs, won’t invite them over for drinks and din etc. and that’s the WHOLE PROBLEM. I’m guessing the WH/Carney was trying to just get beyond this, probably felt they didn’t need this brouhaha on top of everything else, and, as usual, didn’t want to shame some Repub publically.

      • October 23, 2013 at 5:58 pm

        I agree with you Dotster about Sen Durbin. I would never doubt his word.

      • 105 Nena20409
        October 23, 2013 at 6:07 pm

        Durbin is probably correct. But if he wants this to be stopped at this level……he needs to name the racist SOB today. That person needs to be shamed royally.

      • 106 Claire
        October 23, 2013 at 6:10 pm

        Unfortunately this will be a media distraction that will be used against the WH. While the POTUS is trying to get the Democrats to get the people in their states to enroll in the ACA, instead efforts now will have to be focused on showing that there is no divide between the WH and Durbin.

        The media will press Durbin to name the person, the focus will be one who is lying the WH or Durbin and either way it reflect poorly on the Democratic party. Whenever Democrats are in a place to let the repubs self destruct we always step in and save them by destroying ourselves.

        • 107 vcprezofan2
          October 23, 2013 at 6:17 pm

          Or, it might turn out to be enough to distract the media and the Repubs and a handful of Dems, while the Pres and the #ACA make progress in the background – you know, the Dems providing a distraction from the main media event for a change. BTW, I do agree with FayPax 1) that Dems should long since have put Repubs in their place re disrespect and
          2) re her beautiful scenario of PBO himself telling them to get ……out of his face. [I know, just a pleasant dream.]

      • October 23, 2013 at 6:41 pm

        I agree about Durbin. I was watching the WHPB when Jay denied the allegation and I was very surprised because the charge is so believable. I mean, look at what these nitwits say about our President on a daily basis. So I want to be generous and attribute this to human factors, i.e., maybe people heard or didn’t hear what was said. But I suspect that the truth will come out sooner or later and I hope that it’s not something that will not be a detriment for Durbin or Jay.

  28. 110 a4alice
    October 23, 2013 at 5:25 pm

    I just started following this one twitter account called “ACA Success Stories” @ACASuccessTales They tweet stories about how people are getting health care. We should tweet this over to that Krystal Ball chick

    Here’s one story;

    • 111 a4alice
      October 23, 2013 at 5:40 pm

      OK I did up thread in response to Jovie 😀 Really all this nay sayers and hair on fire peeps. who needs them? Geeze.

      • 112 Layla
        October 23, 2013 at 5:48 pm

        We need to remember not to set our own hair on fire. I do not understand why we get upset at this one or that one…they all follow orders from their masters! It should not come as a surprise ever. I listen ONLY when PBO speaks.

  29. 113 Alycee (@jazziz2)
    October 23, 2013 at 5:44 pm

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