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Rise and Shine

A Year Ago Today: Manchester, NH

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Today:

2:0 EDT The President announces the nomination of Jeh Johnson to be the next secretary of homeland security.

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Salon: GOP’s nightmare come true: Obamacare more popular than ever

A new poll reveals just how spectacularly the shutdown has backfired on the Republican Party

The GOP-led federal government shutdown over Obamacare has dramatically backfired on Republicans. Nearly two-thirds of active voters, the largest share yet, support the health insurance reform law and want it to work, new nationwide polling has found.

“A new national survey conducted for Democracy Corps and the Women’s Voices Women’s Vote Action Fund shows an intense new majority for implementing and improving the Affordable Care Act,” the report begins. “A minority of voters want to repeal or replace ‘Obamacare,’ which has been the core demand of the Republicans in Congress who have shut down the government.”

Contrary to mainstream media, Obamacare is not unpopular, the survey by Greenberg Quinlan Rosner found. Instead, 62 percent of 2012 voters polled a week into the House’s shutdown strongly supported the law. That is an increase from late September, when a New York Times/CBS poll found that 56 percent of voters wanted it upheld and fixed. The share of people fervertly opposing the law is fixed at 38 percent, both surveys found, showing that support for the Affordable Care Act is growing.

More here

Celebrity —->

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ThinkProgress: Thanks To Obamacare, Oregon Cut Its Unsinsured Population By 10 Percent Over The Past Two Weeks

Over the past two weeks, Oregon has signed up so many low-income residents for health coverage that the state has cut its uninsured population by 10 percent, according to state health officials. The majority of those people are newly eligible for public insurance plans thanks to Obamacare’s expansion of the Medicaid program.

The Oregon Health Plan — which is what the state calls its Medicaid-funded program for poor residents — has enrolled 56,000 new people this month. State officials credit those high numbers to a fast-track enrollment system that allows people to easily sign up. More than 250,000 food stamp recipients in the state received a notice informing them that they’ve become eligible for the Oregon Health Plan, and explaining that they can either make a phone call or fill out a form in order to complete the enrollment process.

“This is tremendous news for the thousands of Oregonians anxious to get access to quality, affordable health care,” Gov. John Kitzhaber (D) said in a statement.

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Daily Beast: Obamacare Is Winning in Kentucky, Thanks to Steve Beshear

Kentucky, a bastion of anti-government ire, is the top state for Obamacare enrollment. Jonathan Miller on the governor responsible for the unlikely red-state enthusiasm.

….. in a delicious irony, Mitch McConnell and Rand Paul’s home state may ultimately serve as the proving ground of Obamacare’s success. That’s due to the political chutzpah of one man: Kentucky Governor Steve Beshear.

Over the past several months, Beshear used his broad executive powers to bypass resistance from the GOP-controlled state Senate to ensure that the Commonwealth is the only Southern state that both expanded its Medicaid rolls and opened up a health benefit exchange, providing access to affordable health care to our more than 640,000 uninsured citizens ….. in its first day, 10,766 applications for health coverage were initiated, 6,909 completed and 2,989 families were enrolled.

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ThinkProgress: Rick Perry Is Actually Encouraging Texans To Enroll In Obamacare

After years of trying to undermine the Affordable Care Act, Texas lawmakers are suddenly embracing President Obama’s signature domestic policy accomplishment. On Thursday, the Texas Tribune reported that the state is shuttering a state-based health care program and encouraging Texans to sign-up for coverage in the federally-run health care exchange.

Texas’ high risk pool program, which opened in 1998, provides coverage to individuals and families with pre-existing conditions who couldn’t find insurance in the individual health care market. But since the ACA’s exchanges began enrolling beneficiaries, the state deemed the program obsolete, arguing that Texans could find a better deal in the federally-run exchange….

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ThinkProgress: Obama Pollster Warns Republicans: Oppose Obamacare At Your Own Risk

Despite claiming that the shutdown fight represented their last best chance to undermine the Affordable Care Act, Republicans in Congress insist that they will continue to chip away at the health care reform law — even as uninsured Americans begin to sign up for coverage in the law’s new marketplaces. But poll numbers from Obama campaign pollster Joel Benenson suggest that the effort has little public support — even among Republican voters.

“Each time Republicans ratchet up their efforts to delay or defund the ACA instead of focusing on what should be their No. 1 priority — strengthening our economic recovery and creating jobs — they suffer,” Benenson wrote in a memo initially obtained by Politico. The document presents an “array of public polling from a wide variety of outlets” to show that the legislative effort to undermine the law has hurt the party “on every front”…

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Dayton Daily News: Ohio gov. visits Cleveland Clinic in Medicaid push

Ohio Gov. John Kasich is using one of the nation’s best known hospitals to make a final public push for Medicaid expansion before next week’s vote by a legislative panel.

The Republican governor is set to visit the Cleveland Clinic on Friday. He will be joined by advocates who support extending Medicaid coverage to more Ohioans under the federal health care law.

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Paul Krugman: The Damage Done

The government is reopening, and we didn’t default on our debt. Happy days are here again, right?

Well, no. For one thing, Congress has only voted in a temporary fix, and we could find ourselves going through it all over again in a few months. You may say that Republicans would be crazy to provoke another confrontation. But they were crazy to provoke this one, so why assume that they’ve learned their lesson?

Beyond that, however, it’s important to recognize that the economic damage from obstruction and extortion didn’t start when the G.O.P. shut down the government. On the contrary, it has been an ongoing process, dating back to the Republican takeover of the House in 2010. And the damage is large: Unemployment in America would be far lower than it is if the House majority hadn’t done so much to undermine recovery.

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Steve Benen: Remember the pundits who urged Obama to cave?

Even as the American mainstream turned against congressional Republicans during the recent crises, there were quite a few Beltway pundits who urged President Obama to give in to GOP demands. We talked earlier about what lessons Republicans may have learned from this fiasco, but I can’t help but feel curious about what, if anything, commentators learned, too.

Let’s take National Journal’s Ron Fournier, for example, who argued just last week that Obama “must negotiate” with GOP leaders. He said it was necessary as a “matter of optics,” adding that Republican “obstinacy” is “no excuse.” (Remember, in context, “negotiating” with Republicans meant exploring what concessions the president was prepared to offer – in exchange for nothing – because GOP lawmakers said it was a precondition to their willingness to complete their basic responsibilities.)

Obama ignored the advice, showed some real leadership, and prevailed. A week later, with the benefit of hindsight, Fournier’s advice appears rather misguided.

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Reuters: Obama picks attorney Jeh Johnson for Homeland Security chief

President Barack Obama will nominate former Pentagon attorney Jeh Johnson, a national security expert who had a role in ending the military’s ban on gays in the military, to be Homeland Security chief, a White House official said on Thursday.

Johnson, who served as general counsel in the Department of Defense during Obama’s first term, would succeed Janet Napolitano, who stepped down earlier this year. His nomination requires Senate confirmation.

…. “The president is selecting Johnson because he is one (of) the most highly qualified and respected national security leaders, having served as the senior lawyer for the largest government agency in the world,” the official said.

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Toooooooo cute!

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Tommy Christopher (Mediate): Joy Reid Show on the Stove at MSNBC?

…. managing editor of TheGrio.com and on-air contributor Joy-Ann Reid was also the subject of a tantalizing bit of information from a senior source at the network.

Joy has been a frequent fill-in host this year, and has impressive new media chops, with extensive reporting experience, and a point of view that meshes well with the network’s fastest-growing demographic. She’s also the subject of copious social media demand that she be given her own show on MSNBC, an idea which I floated in these pages several months ago. Asked “When is Joy Reid getting her own show,” a senior MSNBC source replied “Stay tuned.”

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On This Day:

Pete Souza: “This photo was taken about 4AM after the President made an unannounced trip to Dover Air Force Base to pay respects to fallen troops coming back from Afghanistan. After meeting privately with the families, the President walked alone up the ramp of the cargo plane carrying the 18 caskets, all draped in American flags. I could see the emotion on his face as he walked from casket to casket, leaving a Presidential coin on each. When he was done, he paused for a few minutes, head bowed in prayer. I heard him tell others later how that was the most difficult moment of his Presidency thus far. Out of respect for the families, not all of who wanted their ceremony photographed, we can’t show those pictures (but they will become part of Presidential archive). Oct. 29, 2009

Pete Souza: “The President ties his white tie before the Alfred E. Smith dinner in New York. Although the dinner is an annual event, every four years, the two presidential nominees attend the dinner only a few weeks before the election.” Oct. 18, 2012

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MooooOOOOoooorning!


113 Responses to “Rise and Shine”


  1. 1 Allison
    October 18, 2013 at 10:33 am

    Morning all!

  2. 7 africa
    October 18, 2013 at 10:35 am

    I’ve risen and I am shining. Hello Chips, hello everybody. Happy Friday, again!!

  3. 10 japa21
    October 18, 2013 at 10:37 am

  4. 11 africa
    October 18, 2013 at 10:39 am

    Yeah, Hope. Celebrity! Autograph, please?

  5. 12 Bill R.
    October 18, 2013 at 10:42 am

  6. 13 Linda
    October 18, 2013 at 10:43 am

    CNN has the Founder of WordPress on as an ” expert ” on computer software.

  7. 17 africa
    October 18, 2013 at 10:44 am

    Snowden not very good at twisting the truth.

  8. 18 hopefruit2
    October 18, 2013 at 10:47 am

    G’morning Chips, TOD, lurkers, everyone, and congrats Allison on #1 🙂

  9. 22 Jovie
    October 18, 2013 at 10:50 am

    But but but glitches shutdown debt ceiling Cruz Paul and morning Joe sez…

    Yikes, I’m going back to Bed .
    🙂

    • October 18, 2013 at 12:23 pm

      Even more important for people to vote in 2014. The GOP tea party base is rabid and insane – and extreme. They cannot learn. And they cannot win.

  10. 25 amk for obama
    October 18, 2013 at 10:56 am

    Great tweets on #ObamaCare, chips. It is enough the half wit msm will whine on & on about the site glitches without our piling on.

  11. 31 Roberta in MN
    October 18, 2013 at 11:08 am

    Good Morning, Nice R&S Chips. Does anyone know where this 28th Amendment to the Constitution started and about 35 governors suing the Federal Government? My sister sent me an email with this bullshit on it and I refused to pass it on until I know where it originated from. I told her that, haven’t heard back. For someone who is a back bencher, this really surprised me. Any help will be greatly appreciated. Thanks you, Roberta

    • 32 99ts
      October 18, 2013 at 11:20 am

      If this is what you are talking about – seems to be an urban legend – who could have guessed – they try anything

      http://urbanlegends.about.com/od/government/a/proposed_28th_amendment.htm
      http://www.snopes.com/politics/medical/28thamendment.asp

      • 33 99ts
        October 18, 2013 at 11:24 am

        Last paragraph of the 2nd link

        Later versions of this item have been prefaced with the statement that “Governors of 35 states have filed suit against the Federal Government for imposing unlawful burdens upon them. It only takes 38 (of the 50) States to convene a Constitutional Convention.” It actually takes only 34 states to convene such a convention.

      • 34 Roberta in MN
        October 18, 2013 at 12:50 pm

        Ya, I went to Snopes too, they have a FB page and I asked about this, they sent me a reply and I gave it to my sister. One of her friends sent it to her. That’s how this sit gets spread around. It’s a long article but well worth the rad. It is on my time line so It isn’t going away for awhile either. They are pretty sharp over there.

        • 35 99ts
          October 18, 2013 at 7:28 pm

          If you see this reply Roberta – I get really cross when I receive such things. I use google to find the details and then do a REPLY ALL to the email (usually whoever sent it to me sent it to lots of folks at the same time) and note that this is LIES and SPAM and they are clogging my email with rubbish & I get enough of that from Nigeria. I am not inclined to be nice about this type of nonsense.

  12. 36 yardarm756
    October 18, 2013 at 11:17 am

    Ahoy mates. I see til rwnj’s are still sailing in a foul wind……..Enjoy the rest of your day. I’m starting ‘spirits’ call early.

  13. October 18, 2013 at 11:25 am

    GM Chips, TOD…. Great roundup….. so tired of all the *glitch* stories. The website is NOT the ACA. Wish media wouldn’t conflate.

    Americans deserve to live in safe neighborhoods, and they have the right to own guns. If law enforcement, elected officials and responsible gun owners work together, we can make both happen.

  14. 41 Ladyhawke
    October 18, 2013 at 11:26 am

    GOP SUFFERING FROM ‘HYSTERICAL DELUSIONAL AFFIRMATION’ and ‘DELUSIONAL SYNERGY’

    Conservatives, Get a Grip on Reality!

    BY Charlie Cook

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    I consulted a psychiatrist and a psychologist on this question. Both said there is no formal term for the behavior some Republicans are exhibiting, but one described the groupthink as “hysterical delusional affirmation,” and the other named it “delusional synergy.” One said, “It entails suspension of logical intellectual processes with a selective consideration of only confirmatory input. Paranoid people typically experience ideas of influence and control where they believe that they see things that others cannot. This process is often propelled by delusions of grandeur, quite often messianic in nature.”
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    And don’t get me started on the “birthers.” It’s one thing to dislike or disapprove of Obama, but to get obsessed over birth certificates—really? “Hysterical delusional affirmation” and “delusional synergy” aren’t terms normally associated with the political process, but after the spectacle of the past few weeks, they seem pretty apt.

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    http://www.nationaljournal.com/the-cook-report/conservatives-get-a-grip-on-reality-20131017

  15. 43 Ladyhawke
    October 18, 2013 at 11:27 am

    Free Consultations: After Shutdown, Fox Advises GOP On Image Rehabilitation

    http://mediamatters.org/blog/2013/10/17/free-consultations-after-shutdown-fox-advises-g/196481

  16. 44 Ladyhawke
    October 18, 2013 at 11:33 am

    NOT THE MOST TRUSTED NAME IN NEWS

    CNN’s Blame-Both-Sides Shutdown Coverage Flopped

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    None of that CNN coverage reflected the stark reality of the shutdown, which was that one party lost sight of common sense and decided to sabotage the federal government.

    The irony in all of this is that at the outset of the shutdown crisis, The New Yorker’s Ryan Lizza appeared on CNN’s Reliable Sources and stressed that the story was really about the Republican Party. “What we are witnessing in Washington to a large extent is an internal fight within the Republican Party,” said Lizza. “I think it’s hard for mainstream reporters to sort of say that because we want most issues to be nice and tidy: Democrats and Republicans are equally to blame.”

    Unfortunately, not enough people at CNN heeded that wise advice.

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    http://mediamatters.org/blog/2013/10/18/cnns-blame-both-sides-shutdown-coverage-flopped/196490

  17. 45 utaustinliberal
    October 18, 2013 at 11:34 am

    Thanks for the wonderful news on ObamaCare Chiparoo. This law is changing lives for the better everyday.

    The picture of President Obama at Dover Air Force Base is one of the most poignant and haunting images Pete Souza has ever captured. It has stuck with me from the moment I saw it in 2009. Being president has its perks but that is most certainly not one of them. The emotion on his face says it all.

  18. 46 Linda
    October 18, 2013 at 11:37 am

    WASHINGTON, Oct 17 (Reuters) – Republican Senator Ted Cruz, a conservative whose defiant stand against Obamacare helped prompt the U.S. government shutdown, has blocked the Senate from voting on the nomination of Tom Wheeler to be Federal Communications Commission chairman.

    The Senate was scheduled to vote on Wheeler, a Democrat and telecom industry veteran, late on Wednesday. Cruz held up the vote over questions about the FCC’s power to enforce disclosures of who sponsors political television advertising.

    “The Senator is holding the nominee until he gets answers to his questions regarding Mr. Wheeler’s views on whether the FCC has the authority or intent to implement the requirements of the failed Congressional DISCLOSE Act,” said Cruz spokesman Sean Rushton, referring to a failed bill meant to step up political disclosures.

    “Mr. Wheeler had previously declined to give specific answers, but as he’s now expressed his readiness to revisit the Senator’s questions, the Senator hopes to communicate with him soon,” Rushton said.

    If Wheeler cannot resolve Cruz’s concerns, Senate Democrats could force a vote on the nomination. Majority Leader Harry Reid would decided whether to take that action.

    • 47 57andfemale
      October 18, 2013 at 11:56 am

      This blocking b.s. was something that was supposed to be addressed with filibuster rules. Reid compromised that there can’t be any secret holds anymore, but one Senator can foul up the entire system. And when you have Senators as foul as Cruz……..

  19. 48 utaustinliberal
    October 18, 2013 at 11:43 am

  20. October 18, 2013 at 11:45 am

    New to twitter:

    @CStevensDHS
    Clark Stevens
    Assistant Secretary for Public Affairs for Department of Homeland Security

  21. 50 africa
    October 18, 2013 at 11:46 am

    KittyTrump. LOL.

  22. 59 Ladyhawke
    October 18, 2013 at 12:01 pm

    Dems stress good governance in crises’ wake

    RACHEL MADDOW 10/18/13

    Michael Beschloss, NBC News presidential historian, talks with Rachel Maddow about the intentions of America’s founders with regard to good governance.

    http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/watch/now-its-democrats-who-have-clarity-of-vision-54793795919

  23. October 18, 2013 at 12:02 pm

    Obama’s two Virginia victories demonstrated that the Democrats’ coalition can carry the state in a high-participation presidential year. But Republicans swept the 2009 statewide races partly because turnout plummeted among young and minority voters, while whites and seniors soared as a share of the electorate.

    This year, Democrats are employing targeting techniques from Obama’s campaign-data wizards to identify potential supporters. Yet McAuliffe’s advisers recognize that better mechanics alone won’t drive turnout and that his fate will pivot more on exciting intermittent Democratic-leaning voters than reassuring right-tilting whites. “It is difficult to create enthusiasm and engagement among both Democratic voters and Democratic activists if you don’t step up on these issues,” said Geoff Garin, McAuliffe’s pollster.

    Democrats beyond the bluest states have often hedged on social issues to avoid alienating culturally conservative whites. But as the party relies less on those voters, other purple-state Democrats, such as Sen. Kay Hagan of North Carolina and Colorado Gov. John Hickenlooper, have placed the same wager as McAuliffe and aligned with the social priorities of their new coalition, even at the price of goading conservatives. That has solidified Democratic unity on previously divisive issues such as gay marriage and immigration. Yet this consensus is likely to last only if it produces swing-state victories, starting with McAuliffe’s race next month.

  24. 62 africa
    October 18, 2013 at 12:04 pm

  25. 63 Dudette
    October 18, 2013 at 12:10 pm

    Interesting…

  26. 65 Dudette
    October 18, 2013 at 12:12 pm

    BONUS!

    • 66 57andfemale
      October 18, 2013 at 1:08 pm

      I’m getting as many phone calls to refinance from B of A as I get from DNC to donate.

      However, I will donate this weekend and I will tell them why: when they hang tough, support our President and stand up to bullies, they can have a few of my hard earned bucks.

  27. 67 Ladyhawke
    October 18, 2013 at 12:14 pm

    No You Can’t Just Go to the Emergency Room—Unless You Want to Go Broke

    http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2013/10/emergency-rooms-instead-health-insurance

    • 68 57andfemale
      October 18, 2013 at 1:12 pm

      You can find a cheap or free mammogram. what you cannot find (without insurance and ACA) is surgery or chemo. That is not available in an ER.

      And until ACA if you owned a small bungalow, you weren’t entitled to any assistance. Which would be okay – if health care was not for-profit with Americans being gouged.

      When a colonoscopy, if you are paying out of pocket, costs almost as much as your monthly income, are you going to get a colonoscopy? Nope.

  28. 69 57andfemale
    October 18, 2013 at 12:15 pm

    The newest shiny lie from GOP: “Obamacare is making Americans ‘lose’ their health care.’

    Okay. There are policies being terminated because they are not ACA compliant. What does that mean? They are not giving basic screenings, they have lifetime caps, they cost too much, etc. Anyone who has their insurance cancelled can then go to the exchanges where they will find ACA-compliant insurance that will NOT have lifetime caps, WILL include wellness and basic screenings at no extra cost, truly competitive premiums, more INDIVIDUAL choice than the one or two options offered by an employer, and subsidies to help with premiums. Because insurance cannot cost you more than 9.5% of your income. Period.

    So what’s the problem? You have true choice on exactly the kind of coverage that fits your needs. Pre-existing conditions will not haunt you through through layoffs, etc. You are GUARANTEED that it will be affordable.

    The companies playing these games who want to maintain unaffordable, worthless insurance? 5% of businesses. But man, they’re LOUD.

    So let’s be LOUDER.

    Anyone who gets a letter or hears of a letter about cancellation because their plan isn’t ACA-compliant – that’s because it’s lousy expensive insurance that doesn’t cover shit.

    Got it? Good.

    • 70 57andfemale
      October 18, 2013 at 12:16 pm

      Shorter answer: CELEBRATE. You’ll get much more affordable, stable comprehensive coverage with a lot of choices through the Exchanges. Yea!

      • October 18, 2013 at 12:31 pm

        AGREED!

        • 72 57andfemale
          October 18, 2013 at 1:05 pm

          That’s what people do not understand. I’ve seen sane Democrats freak out. then when you quiz them on the coverage they have and what they’re paying – they should be thrilled to go on the Exchanges.

          I know I’m a tad obsessed and I’m surrounded at TOD with informed, engaged people. But I was floored talking to my best friend who is an HR VP for a good sized American manufacturing company, who could retire but won’t because she wants COBRA for her husband to last long enough until he’s on Medicare. And she’s ‘willing’ to accept the exorbitant premiums until that time.

          I was shocked, since this is her job. I told her that her husband will go on the Exchanges, get excellent coverage for as long as they need. In fact, ACA FREES her to retire if she’s ready to do so now. She didn’t know that. God!

          The day after I talked to her I saw an article that said COBRA would be a thing of the past once ACA kicks in.

  29. October 18, 2013 at 12:19 pm

    Hooooowdy all you O’s!!!! What a great getting up day again on planet TOD!!!

    A bit chilly in my neck of the woods, but not as cold as the shoulder the orange guy is probably getting from his DC bartender.

  30. October 18, 2013 at 12:33 pm

  31. 76 hopefruit2
    October 18, 2013 at 12:43 pm

  32. 78 Ladyhawke
    October 18, 2013 at 12:50 pm

    Inside the Fox News lie machine: I fact-checked Sean Hannity on Obamacare

    By BY ERIC STERN

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    I don’t doubt that these six individuals believe that Obamacare is a disaster; but none of them had even visited the insurance exchange. And some of them appear to have taken actions (Paul Cox, for example) based on a general pessimistic belief about Obamacare. He’s certainly entitled to do so, but Hannity is not entitled to point to Paul’s behavior as an “Obamacare train wreck story” and maintain any credibility that he might have as a journalist.

    Strangely, the recent shutdown was based almost entirely on a small percentage of Congress’s belief that Obamacare, as Ted Cruz puts it, “is destroying America.” Cruz has rarely given us an example of what he’s talking about. That’s because the best he can do is what Hannity did—exploit people’s ignorance and falsely point to imaginary boogeymen.

    Update: To check the plans I used this useful calculator from the Kaiser Family Foundation.

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    http://www.salon.com/2013/10/18/inside_the_fox_news_lie_machine_i_fact_checked_sean_hannity_on_obamacare/

  33. 80 japa21
    October 18, 2013 at 1:10 pm

  34. 81 Nena20409
    October 18, 2013 at 1:19 pm

    Good Afternoon TODers.

    Hey Lady Dudette……..Check this out if you are around.

    I hope that Chips is enjoying her Danny today 😉

    http://www.c-span.org/Events/Actor-George-Takei-at-Natl-Press-Club/10737442131-1/

  35. October 18, 2013 at 1:22 pm

  36. 83 jacquelineoboomer
    October 18, 2013 at 1:23 pm

  37. 84 hopefruit2
    October 18, 2013 at 1:23 pm

    • 85 Ladyhawke
      October 18, 2013 at 1:37 pm

      I guess Ezra ran out of room because he didn’t add:

      ‘Only interested in glitches, not success stories.’

      • 87 hopefruit2
        October 18, 2013 at 1:45 pm

        LOL! Exactly. We know that’s what he’s fishing for.

        I think David Corn learned an important lesson from his little informal Twitter survey on PBO/Syria a couple months ago. That when you talk directly to the American people, you get a very different picture – often the stark opposite – than what you get just listening to the MSM.

        And to his credit, he has decided to follow-up with the ACA – getting input directly from the people, instead of simply regurgitating slanted reports from the MSM.

    • October 18, 2013 at 1:51 pm

      I can’t stand Ezra but I’m not aware that you can sign up by phone. When I called all they could do was help with the website. At least in Illinois I don’t know that you can sign up in person (where?) or via phone. Over the phone it would be pretty difficult to do plan comparison. I think it’s only the website. Anyone in Illinois know anything different?

      • 89 Sue in Seattle
        October 18, 2013 at 5:34 pm

        From healthcare.gov:

        You can apply for health coverage in the Marketplace four ways: online, by phone, in person with an assister, or by completing a paper application and mailing it in.

  38. October 18, 2013 at 1:24 pm

  39. 91 COS
    October 18, 2013 at 1:28 pm

    Good morning everyone. I just signed in and lo and behold, just as we predicted, criticism of the ACA is the new shiny toy. Surprise, surprise!!!

  40. 92 africa
    October 18, 2013 at 1:29 pm

  41. 94 57andfemale
    October 18, 2013 at 1:33 pm

    Let me get this straight: Dem’s and PBO win a righteous, principled battle against ignorant, hateful sociopaths that saves American governance that was being attacked. MSM decides that there must be good news in this for GOP so they go about looking for ‘facts’ and ‘analysis’ that support a position that never started with any facts whatsoever.

    Is that about right?

  42. 97 Nena20409
    October 18, 2013 at 1:37 pm

    http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/boy-scout-leaders-topple-utah-rock-formation-from-jurassic-period-then-cheer-video

    Three adult Boy Scout leaders may face charges for toppling an approximately 170-million-year-old rock formation in Utah’s Goblin Valley State Park, the Salt Lake Tribune reported Thursday.

    The men, named on the Tribune YouTube page as Dave Hall, Glenn Taylor and Dylan Taylor, filmed themselves knocking over one of the formations known as “goblins,” and cheering after the rocks came down. The video was posted to Facebook and obtained by the Tribune.

    ……Pure Stupidity……Seriously?

  43. 98 amk for obama
    October 18, 2013 at 1:39 pm

  44. 99 57andfemale
    October 18, 2013 at 1:40 pm

    It’s the Orange Satan but it’s a sensible diary on computers and stuff. Evidently, the entire MSM has never tried to buy concert tickets or dealt with Bank of America online.

    If Orange Satan is not allowed at all, the title says it all. Here’s a small clip:

    “We have seen a few web design pros discuss the difficulty of designing complex web data collection sites, so I thought I would offer a supporting viewpoint. I don’t design sites, but as a public librarian, I spend a lot of time helping people with them.

    Healthcare.gov isn’t great, but I’ve seen a lot worse.”

    http://www.dailykos.com/story/2013/10/18/1248551/-Calm-down-most-web-forms-suck

    • 100 57andfemale
      October 18, 2013 at 1:41 pm

      Okay, the last line is hilarious:

      “Just to make this perfect, my diary is jammed and I can’t get it to save and preview. Hope I don’t lose it and have to start again.”

  45. 101 Nena20409
    October 18, 2013 at 1:40 pm

    http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/freedomworks-ceo-a-real-possibility-that-the-gop-splits-in-two

    FreedomWorks chief Matt Kibbe said Friday that divisions on the right could cause the Republican Party to split in two.

    During an apperance on CSPAN, the tea party leader responded to a piece in The Washington Times indcating that some “prominent Republicans are saying that if the GOP loses the 2016 presidential elections, the party will go the way of the Whigs — or formally split into a moderate party and a conservative party.”

    ///// I say….please, proceed.

    • 102 57andfemale
      October 18, 2013 at 1:43 pm

      They shouldn’t have welcomed in the crazies with open arms to begin with, and then given the Know-Nothings the keys.

      Idjits.

    • 103 japa21
      October 18, 2013 at 1:44 pm

      I am trying to figure out which current Republicans would fit into the “moderate” category and for the life of me, I can’t.

  46. 105 jacquelineoboomer
    October 18, 2013 at 1:44 pm

    For those not on Twitter, here’s the message Frank Schaeffer wrote to the President:

    Dear President Obama,

    Congratulations Mr. President. Once again you win over white bigots and other evangelical Tea Party goofs. Everyone has underestimated you since Day 1. Liberals are full of advice and conservatives… well, enough said.

    The economy came back, the deficit is lower than ever, America is producing more energy than we’re importing, gay men and women have been given new dignity and rights, you ended the wars as you said you would, and the Republicans are running for cover.

    You are a smart, decent, compassionate levelheaded man. Your craven enemies have been proved to be hysterical liars. You will go down in history as great and every child with health care will bless your name forever.

    You have been doing God’s work. Thank you.

    With respect and love,

    Frank Schaeffer

    • 106 jacquelineoboomer
      October 18, 2013 at 1:48 pm

      I’m somewhere between 66 and 68, and I honestly don’t remember a time when grown men wrote all the time how they have deep “respect and love” for our President. That closing from Frank – a strong man who’s been through a lot in his life, and found his own right path – as well as his “You have been doing God’s work. Thank you.” just has me in a tearful state of sheer joy inside.

      • 107 japa21
        October 18, 2013 at 2:26 pm

        Gee, also being somewhere in that wide stretch between 66 and 68, I have to echo what you are saying. Reagan got a lot of the “respect” stuff but the open “love” for PBO is off the charts. At the same time, I don’t think I have ever seen a President hated as much as this one. But when people have been angry or even hated other President’s it has been because of what they have done. With PBO the hatred started before he could even do anything. And it is not just because he is black, but because he is an intelligent, non-stereotypical black. And by that last, I mean stereotypical in the sense of how the bigots of the world view blacks.

    • 109 Nena20409
      October 18, 2013 at 2:02 pm

      I like him.

      Thank you Frank Schaeffer.

    • 111 Vicki
      October 18, 2013 at 2:04 pm

      This is gorgeous and tear-producing. “bless your name forever.” Amen


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