Rise and Shine

President Obama arrives to speak about the government shutdown and debt ceiling standoff in the Brady Press Briefing Room of the White House in Washington, DC, October 16


Today (All Times Eastern):

10:35: President Obama delivers a statement

11:30: Holds a bilateral meeting with Italian Prime Minister Letta; Biden also attends

12:45: Holds a working lunch with Italian Prime Minister Letta; VP Biden also attends

1:30: Jay Carney briefs the press





Holly Yan: Obama Signs Bill To End Partial Shutdown, Prevent Debt Ceiling Crisis

After all the bickering and grandstanding, the billions lost and trust squandered, it was much ado about nothing. The partial government shutdown’s finally over. The debt ceiling debacle has been averted. Obamacare remains virtually unscathed. The hardline House Republicans, whose opposition to the President’s signature healthcare law set this all in motion, got pretty much zip — except maybe their reputations marred.

The Senate brokered a bill to end the 16-day-long shutdown and raise the debt limit. The GOP-led House passed it. And early Thursday morning, President Barack Obama signed it into law. But it wasn’t Republicans who made it happen; a majority of that party’s caucus actually voted against the measure. The bill passed 285-144, with overwhelming Democratic support and the approval of about 80 House Republicans.

More here



E.J. Dionne: A Lesson For Moderates In The Shutdown Denouement

Those who genuinely want a more moderate approach to politics must also reflect on what just happened. Obama and an astonishingly unified Democratic Party insisted that there could be no negotiation over raising the debt ceiling. It was time, they said, to stand up against government by intimidation. This made many who chase the political center, no matter how far to the right conservatives might drag it, uneasy. Their critiques took many forms: that Obama should “lead” more, that he should be more “involved,” that refusing to negotiate sounded so ill-tempered.

The irony the centrists must confront is that there is now a larger opening for moderate governance precisely because foes of the far right’s extra-constitutional abuses of the congressional process stood firm. In doing so, they brought a large majority of the American people with them.

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Zachary Roth: Breaking Black: The Right-Wing Plot To Split A School Board

Alleging mismanagement and cronyism stemming from the stadium project, a group of white conservatives has used a series of audacious political and legal maneuvers to try to seize control of the board from its black majority. The attempted power grab is just one flash-point in a bitter and racially-charged feud over control of the school board. The local courts, and many white residents of Beaumont, have made it easy for the conservatives. And they have been helped by developments more than 1,000 miles away in Washington.

In June, the Supreme Court badly weakened the 1965 Voting Rights Act which had been signed into law to make places like Beaumont—places that often fly under the national radar—more equal.  Whatever the outcome, the no-holds-barred struggle to control a provincial southeast Texas school board is shaping up as a test of something deeper: whether communities once plagued by the ugly rule of Jim Crow have truly changed, or if the Voting Rights Act was the check needed even today.

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NYT: Hands Empty But Spirit Unbowed, House Republicans Take Stock

Speaker John A. Boehner strolled into a late-afternoon meeting with House Republicans and gave them one key directive: go home after it was all over on Wednesday night and get some sleep. Their fight was done.

In the two and half years since they took control of the House, Republicans have gone from early legislative victories that cut government spending to a string of defeats that have grown worse over time. The latest ended with a bill that was expected to pass early Thursday and that would leave the country almost exactly where it had been before, only billions of dollars poorer and as a puzzlement to the world.

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Jonathan Chait: Stop Fretting: The Debt-Ceiling Crisis Is Over!

The mistaken impression of chaos and collapse was left by the collapse of the House Republican plan. But the House Republicans are the hostage-takers. It’sgood that their plan collapsed. Their plan was to insist on winning at least some concession from President Obama, testing his resolve not to be extorted, and, at least, pushing the crisis until the last moment. The Senate bill is a deal to lift the debt ceiling and reopen the government, without a ransom payment.

Most of the analysis has focused on the mind-boggling stupidity of Republicans in Congress, who blundered into a debacle that failed in exactly the way they were warned it would. But it also represents a huge Democratic success — or, at least, the closest thing to success that can be attained under the circumstances. Of the Republican Party’s mistakes, the most rational was its assumption that Democrats would ultimately bend. Democrats seemed to share a genuine moral revulsion at the tactics and audacity of a party that had lost a presidential election by 5 million votes, lost another chance to win a favorable Senate map, and lost the national House vote demanding the winning party give them its way without compromise.

More here



Jennifer Bendery: GOP Didn’t Gain Anything By Forcing Shutdown

So did Republicans gain anything by forcing the showdown? “No,” Sen. Kelly Ayotte (R-N.H.) said flatly. “I think the answer is no.” “That we know not to go down this road to a shutdown again?” Sen. Jeff Flake (R-Ariz.) proposed with a weak smile. “That may be something, at least.”

Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.), who previously referred to tea party lawmakers as “wacko birds,” said the only good thing may be that Republicans are now forced to confront their intra-party differences. “I didn’t think this strategy was smart from the beginning,” Ayotte said. “The fact that the exchanges opened while the government was shut down demonstrates on its face that it wasn’t going to succeed.”

More here




Washington Post: Recent *Rate* Of Growth In U.S. Debt Is Not Exceptional

What is so interesting about the figure is that it shows that the Obama years – despite a large rise in the nominal quantity of debt – are far from extraordinary in terms of the rate of debt growth over the preceding four years. In fact, if we extend the data series back to 1810, we find that prior to 2009, debt grew in the preceding four years at a faster rate than the rate at which it has increased since Obama took office in all of the following years: 1815-1817; 1839-1844; 1848-1851; 1859-1867; 1917-1921; 1942-1947; 1934-1937; 1978; 1983-1988.

More here


On This Day:


First Lady Michelle Obama participates in a taping with Kelly Ripa and Michael Strahan for “Live! with Kelly and Michael” at the Live with Kelly Studios in New York, N.Y., Oct. 17, 2012. (Official White House Photo by Sonya N. Hebert)



President Barack Obama visits Mast General Store in Boone, N.C., during a stop on the American Jobs Act bus tour, Oct. 17, 2011. (Official White House Photo by Pete Souza)



President Barack Obama waves to a crowd gathered along a road in Boone, N.C., during the American Jobs Act bus tour, Oct. 17, 2011. (Official White House Photo by Pete Souza)



President Barack Obama boards Air Force One at Cleveland-Hopkins International Airport in Cleveland, Ohio, Oct. 17, 2010. (Official White House Photo by Lawrence Jackson)


79 Responses to “Rise and Shine”

  1. 1 desertflower
    October 17, 2013 at 8:57 am


  2. 3 hopefruit2
    October 17, 2013 at 9:00 am

    G’morning Chips, TOD, lurkers, everyone and congrats df on #1 🙂

    Looking forward to seeing/hearing my President this morning.

  3. 5 CEB
    October 17, 2013 at 9:01 am

    Good morning.

    I am still smiling about how Jay cut out the disgusting, GOP shilling members of the press corp last week. He is a gladiator.

  4. 6 99ts
    October 17, 2013 at 9:02 am

    It was much ado about nothing – we need more Shakespeare – what an amazing man – his plays are still so relevant today

    “Much Ado About Nothing is generally considered one of Shakespeare’s best comedies, because it combines elements of robust hilarity with more serious meditations on honor, shame, and court politics. It was probably written in 1598 and 1599, as Shakespeare was approaching the middle of his career. Like As You Like It and Twelfth Night, Much Ado About Nothing, though interspersed with darker concerns, is a joyful comedy that ends with multiple marriages and no deaths.”


  5. October 17, 2013 at 9:08 am

    Morning TOD. Thanks UT for the awesome R&S.

  6. 9 sherijr
    October 17, 2013 at 9:08 am

    I want to pass this on- as I just found out about it this morning (off topic) For low income/ fixed income folks- free cell phone w/ minutes: https://www.safelinkwireless.com/Enrollment/Safelink/en/Public/NewHome.html

  7. 10 amk for obama
    October 17, 2013 at 9:09 am

  8. October 17, 2013 at 9:14 am

    Thank yoooooooou UT, another wonderful newsie round-up!

  9. 13 4morefor44
    October 17, 2013 at 9:18 am

    in that washington post story about the “rate of growth,” do they mention how much, if not half, of the debt people attribute to president obama is because he did the responsible and put the iraq/afghan invasions and medicare part on the books? republicans like bush purposely kept them off so they could play this game where it gets blamed on democrats. i almost never see that mentioned anywhere.

    plus, $1T was from the budget bush left president obama for his first year, and another almost $1T for the stimulus to fix the mess republicans left for him. this “republicans are fiscally responsible and democrats are loose with money” false talking point can’t die soon enough.

    • 14 japa21
      October 17, 2013 at 9:40 am

      Actaully, the off budget aspect of the wars didn’t impact debt one way or the other. What it did do was make the deficit look better by a lot. Instead of running $1T deficits, it looked like the deficits were only about $500B.

      It is true that a good chunk of the debt is due to the tax cuts and the wars. But Americans don’t understand the difference between deficit and debt and even the media uses the terms almost interchageably.

      • 15 4morefor44
        October 17, 2013 at 9:54 am

        and how much of the deficit each year is the interest on the regan/bush debt that they left? i never hear that talked about either.

      • 16 57andfemale
        October 17, 2013 at 10:19 am

        The ten-year Bush tax cuts – people should understand that if they were extended the deficit would balloon. I do wish, when PBO was bargaining with the RWNJ’s the first time, he would have made that point a lot more, and a lot clearer.

        We did extend the tax cuts in exchange for other things and – to no one’s surprise who followed this – Republicans had a hammer to use against PBO, laying that balloon on PBO’s doorstep.

        I understood the deal and supported it wholeheartedly at the time. But I do remember screaming about the fact that very few Americans understood how that would damage the deficit and make it messier for, if not damaging to, PBO.

        • 17 4morefor44
          October 17, 2013 at 10:26 am

          i remember president obama saying that a lot, and that clearly. ‘the news” is why few people ever hear that or understand that, not president obama.

          • 18 57andfemale
            October 17, 2013 at 10:29 am

            He must be seriously weary of beating his head against the brick wall. Even me, who is engaged, didn’t think he’d made the sale. But then again, that would require his speeches to be, like, covered by the press and report the truth instead of RW lies.

            And yes – Americans who can spend 15 hours/day watching football all weekend and repeat (and understand) sports stats, cannot be bothered to take an hour to go vote or spend 15 minutes engaging in American policy.

  10. 19 hopefruit2
    October 17, 2013 at 9:23 am

    Does anyone have the video of PBO saying “no” to that reporter who asked whether there will be another debt ceiling crisis? 🙂

  11. 23 desertflower
    October 17, 2013 at 9:29 am


    Gridlock Has Cost U.S. Billions, and the Meter Is Still Running

    Even with the shutdown of the United States government and the threat of a default coming to an end, the cost of Congress’s gridlock has already run well into the billions, economists estimate. And the total will continue to grow even after the shutdown ends, partly because of uncertainty about whether lawmakers might reach another deadlock early next year.

    A complete accounting will take months once the government reopens and the Treasury resumes adding to the country’s debt. But economists said that the intransigence of House Republicans would take a bite out of fourth-quarter growth, which will affect employment, business earnings and borrowing costs. The ripple from Washington will be felt around the globe.

  12. 24 utaustinliberal
    October 17, 2013 at 9:30 am

    I LOVE VP Biden.

  13. October 17, 2013 at 9:30 am

    LOVE this man.

    • 27 Ladyhawke
      October 17, 2013 at 9:49 am

      That’s just fabulous. Love him to pieces for greeting the federal employees. He is the quintessential ‘everyman’. That’s our Joey.

      I am also reminded of this:

      Office of VP Biden ✔ @VP

      “I’m proud of you,” VP called to tell the Park Ranger who was chastised by a GOP Rep today at the WWII Memorial.

  14. October 17, 2013 at 9:31 am

    Good Morning, Everyone 🙂

  15. October 17, 2013 at 9:32 am

    Yikes, I want the WH workers to return and wipe down that blue door to the briefing room!

  16. 36 japa21
    October 17, 2013 at 9:43 am

    Don’t have time to check it out, walked into a mess at work, but did the final deal include the part about the debt ceiling where Congress actually has to vote not to raise the debt ceiling, which the President can then veto and would need 2/3 majority not to raise it. If so, all those talking about having to go through this again in February are talking through their …

  17. 38 amk for obama
    October 17, 2013 at 9:44 am

  18. 39 japa21
    October 17, 2013 at 9:48 am

  19. October 17, 2013 at 9:48 am

    Happy to be back at work:

  20. 42 utaustinliberal
    October 17, 2013 at 9:48 am

    They’re so happy to return to work. They warm my heart.

  21. 44 hopefruit2
    October 17, 2013 at 9:50 am

    Seriously, folks, do not allow the likes of John McCain and other politicians to try to take the blame off the GOP by making the shutdown a gender issue. It had nothing to do with men vs. women. This is a subtle ploy to avoid giving the Dem leadership (PBO, Reid, Pelosi, Van Hollen, Schumer, Murray, Hoyer, Clyburn, et al), the FULL CREDIT they deserve, and giving the GOP leadership (Boehner, Cruz, Cantor) the full blame they deserve.

    McConnell and Susan Collins do not get much credit from me. This time they just happened to play the role of “good cop” when 95% of the time they vote in lockstep with their extremist caucus.

    And the Collins deal was a poison pill – despite the MSM’s efforts to claim otherwise. As a matter of fact, I just read somewhere that it was PBO who killed the Collins plan, not Harry Reid. Don’t let the MSM try to “soften” the GOP’s image by giving them credit they don’t deserve. They PLANNED this shutdown, because they wanted to destroy our President’s legacy and prevent certain people from getting affordable healthcare. When TeaBagger-in-Chief Ted Cruz articulated his plan in the summer, not ONE of them spoke up and said, this is a bad idea. Not a single one. So all of this silly posturing and elbowing for credit among the GOP is going no where with me!

  22. 50 jziglar
    October 17, 2013 at 9:55 am

    I made the mistake of watching CNN for a minute. Gloria Borger going on and on about the President not socializing enough with members of congress including some from his own party. I swear this idea that socializing will do the trick is nonsense. The republican party is no longer a moderate center right party, the radicals are in charge. It hasn’t been a center right party in decades and no amount of “socializing” will make these people sane.

    • 51 Linda
      October 17, 2013 at 9:58 am

      She lives in the past, like most pudits……

    • 52 Ladyhawke
      October 17, 2013 at 10:11 am

      Oh please, I am so sick of this tired old meme. Speaker Boehner is an inept leader and there are no moderate Republicans to work with. Here is what two political scholars (Norm Ornstein and Thomas Mann) had to say about the nostalgia for the good old days when President Reagan and Speaker Tip O’Neill fought during the day and had drinks at night. Sorry for the long post, but I just had to get this out of my system. I wish Gloria Borger could listen to this interview. As a so called political analyst, she might learn something from the scholars.

      Norman Ornstein and Thomas Mann Explain Why Congress Is Failing Us


      Bill Moyers: You say, in the book, that what we all know: President Obama made great efforts to work cooperatively with the Republicans during his first term. Didn’t get him anything in terms of legislation; got him maybe a second term. But in The New York Times this week, Michael Shear and Peter Baker say, call him, “A president who hesitates to twist arms.” Can you not be president without twisting arms?

      Thomas Mann: Oh, I think that’s a myth.

      Bill Moyers: Do you?

      Thomas Mann: I just think the press is now overrun with President Obama’s personal shortcomings. That he doesn’t engage, that he doesn’t put pressure on members, doesn’t tell them what to do. He doesn’t give them bourbon and branch water and he and he doesn’t raise hell with them. And the reality is that presidential leadership is contextual.

      He’s operating with a Republican Party that’s part of this broad apparatus. What can he do to any one of those Republicans? He can’t do anything. He’s not in a position to do it. He tried negotiating early, that was his brand, right? The post-partisan President. He realized what he was up against, and then he said, you know, I’ve got to maneuver, position myself with the Democrats in a way that we can get some things done.

      Norman Ornstein: You know, I would say on the gun issue too we’re premature here. It’s not only that you can’t twist arms in the same way that it might have been available to you before. And the few arms that he could twist on the Democratic side were almost all, with one exception, people who were up for reelection in really tough places. You’re always going to tread a little bit more carefully there. And on the Republican side, it’s not clear what either schmoozing or arm twisting would do.

      But my guess is you’re going to see this, the issue of a background check come back. You’re also going to see some executive actions, we’re already beginning to see them, to make sure that people who shouldn’t have access to guns have to go through a process to make it happen. So it’s not only that, this meme in the press: “Why can’t he be like Lyndon Johnson or like Bill Clinton?” As if all the schmoozing that Bill Clinton did got him a single Republican vote for his economic plan. And it took seven months to get the Democrats helped his health care plan, or kept him from being impeached.

      Bill Moyers: Yeah, I’m not impressed when people say, well, Barack Obama’s not Lyndon Johnson. Lyndon Johnson is…

      Norman Ornstein: Today he couldn’t be Lyndon Johnson…

      Bill Moyers: Couldn’t be Lyndon Johnson.

      Bill Moyers: This is not the 1960s when Congress had a huge bevy, a large bevy of moderate Republicans.



      • 53 4morefor44
        October 17, 2013 at 10:23 am

        plus, lbj didn’t even need the moderate republicans anyway. he had around 70 democrats in the senate the entire time he was president, and big majorities in the House.

    • 54 anniebella
      October 17, 2013 at 10:23 am

      What is wrong with Gloria Borger and media folks like her. jziglar, you are so right. No amount of socializing will make these people sane. Alot of these Republicans are racists, if they are not their base is. So Borger is full of alot of B.S.

  23. 55 desertflower
    October 17, 2013 at 10:10 am

    In case you missed this RM from last night…MUST SEE.


  24. 56 Jovie
    October 17, 2013 at 10:12 am

  25. 57 99ts
    October 17, 2013 at 10:12 am

    In the photo of the President arriving at the Press room last night can someone tell me who is the man in the middle of the front row – next to Ed Henry – tia

  26. 60 utaustinliberal
    October 17, 2013 at 10:13 am

  27. 61 hopefruit2
    October 17, 2013 at 10:16 am

    Our VP Biden with muffins! 🙂

  28. October 17, 2013 at 10:20 am

    Morning again everyone, I’ll post a heads-up for PBO’s 10:35 statement in 5ish mins.

  29. 64 57andfemale
    October 17, 2013 at 10:26 am

    Booker +11. I was hoping for +13. Alas, turnout was ‘low’. Dem’s have GOT to vote in numbers high enough to scare the shit out of Republicans. I’m glad Cory won, +11 is great, but we need to commit more consistently to VOTING.

    • 65 amk for obama
      October 17, 2013 at 10:41 am

      Yup. 15% turnout in this atmosphere is pretty pathetic.

    • 67 hopefruit2
      October 17, 2013 at 10:55 am

      The margin could be higher, but I am not so discouraged that it was +11 and not +13. There are reasons for the relatively low turnout (apart from this being in an off-year).

      Election day was on a Wednesday – it’s normally on a Tuesday. Gov Christie planned it that way for this very reason. I also believe that the debt ceiling and gov’t shutdown issues overshadowed the NJ elections. And even with all that Cory Booker’s margin STILL exceeded that of fellow Dem Senator from NJ, Bob Menendez, who won in a “Democratic Sweep” midterm of 2006, when Menendez beat the Republican 53-44.

      • 68 57andfemale
        October 17, 2013 at 11:20 am

        I think if he’d beaten expectations we could have shoved it better in Republicans’ faces. It’s not a magic number, just would have liked a more muscled message. But 15% turnout is just pathetic. We need to have an institutional understanding of how long term these fights are, and all we need to do is effing vote.

        • 69 hopefruit2
          October 17, 2013 at 11:25 am

          Where did you get that 15% turnout figure from? From all accounts I read yesterday, turnout actually exceeded expectations – which were low for the reasons I outlined above.

          • 70 57andfemale
            October 17, 2013 at 11:27 am

            I read it somewhere. let me see if I can find it. NYT, I think.

            • 71 hopefruit2
              October 17, 2013 at 11:28 am

              I don’t trust NYT – especially if they’re trying to downplay Booker’s win. But I will look for another source of turnout figures.

              • 72 57andfemale
                October 17, 2013 at 12:41 pm

                I can’t find where I read it. I read where turnout was high in certain, specific Republican districts, but then Booker also said that he was happy with the turnout. I didn’t make the number up – I know I read it somewhere!

                • 73 hopefruit2
                  October 17, 2013 at 12:45 pm

                  One thing to remember: The media ALWAYS spins “good” for the GOP and “bad” for the Dems – regardless of the actual circumstances. As I said, Booker won by a larger margin than the Dem candidate won in 2006 – a Democratic “sweep” midterm year.

                  This result contradicts the notion that there was a “poor” Dem showing relative to the GOP – considering the fact of the election being held not only in an off-year, but on an off-day!!

                  • 74 57andfemale
                    October 17, 2013 at 1:24 pm

                    I must have found it in some tweet, but I wouldn’t have mentioned it here if there wasn’t a source. God knows where I read it. Sorry. I read some anecdotal reports that turnout was really low in very blue areas. But I have no way to confirm that.

                    The search goes on…….

                  • 75 57andfemale
                    October 17, 2013 at 2:00 pm

                    donna dem has the info we’ve been looking for in the Face of government thread.

              • 76 57andfemale
                October 17, 2013 at 12:45 pm

                I cannot find it. The NYT piece is absolutely disgusting. Trying to think where else I would have seen it, since Google isn’t helping.

  30. 78 99ts
    October 17, 2013 at 10:27 am

    Not a good day for Gov McDonnell – the GOP seem to have multiple problems in the states – despite the media praising all those RW governors


  31. October 17, 2013 at 11:01 am

    I was up all night watching C-Span the witch hunt on the Parks Director Jarvis being conducted by Devil Issa. The Dems were good about making note that the parks would never had been shut down if the “Republicans” did not shut the Govt down. What did they think when you furlough 21K employees that attend to over 400 parks? Bunch of ass hats.

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