Shutdown Update

Delusional Much?


116 Responses to “Shutdown Update”

  1. October 15, 2013 at 12:02 pm

  2. October 15, 2013 at 12:04 pm

    Why do I feel like I’m living through one of my weird dreams, where no matter how weird it gets you just can’t wake up from it?

  3. October 15, 2013 at 12:06 pm

  4. 22 utaustinliberal
    October 15, 2013 at 12:13 pm

  5. 23 Ladyhawke
    October 15, 2013 at 12:13 pm

    WHO’S ON FIRST …………..

    The Bud Abottt and Lou Costello “WHO’S ON FIRST’ baseball routine is more coherent than the gibberish coming from SINO Boehner.

  6. 24 utaustinliberal
    October 15, 2013 at 12:16 pm

    Great live blog from Think Progress. Also, the House GOP plan on ObamaCare in relation to congressional staffers is unconstitutional.

  7. 25 Ladyhawke
    October 15, 2013 at 12:17 pm

    House GOP’s New Debt Plan Hits Turbulence As Default Looms

    Making matters worse, the White House rejected it as a “ransom” demand.

    “The President has said repeatedly that Members of Congress don’t get to demand ransom for fulfilling their basic responsibilities to pass a budget and pay the nation’s bills,” said White House spokeswoman Amy Brundage. “Unfortunately, the latest proposal from House Republicans does just that in a partisan attempt to appease a small group of Tea Party Republicans who forced the government shutdown in the first place.”

    Senate Democratic leadership also dismissed the GOP proposal.


  8. 26 cookemom
    October 15, 2013 at 12:20 pm

    PBO through White House spokesperson said, ‘No way’ to the GNOPs latest magic trick. News reports saying House bill has collapsed. Sounds like they’re willing to shut down the government over whether the GNOP’s own $29,000.00 a year staffer should have their health care subsidized by their employer. HUH????/

  9. 37 MightyPamela
    October 15, 2013 at 12:22 pm

    How do they not see it is all so useless and pointless? They bring a new dimension of stupid to the word.

    • 38 57andfemale
      October 15, 2013 at 1:04 pm

      How are you, honey? I didn’t read of your travails until the middle of the night.

      I wish I could sweep you up and move you to Chicago. But you gotta like dogs – a lot – to live in my house.

      I know the distress of dealing with a sick pet – I know what your kitty means to you.

      You are in my constant thoughts and prayers. healing, positive energy sent your way, girl friend.

      • 39 MightyPamela
        October 15, 2013 at 3:17 pm

        Thank you, dear 57, and everyone who left such wonder and support. I’m hanging in, between my normal levels of pain and the shock of looking at what I need to deal with, I may have had an hour sleep. Should make up for it tonight! Sent the morning on the phone, have spoken with legal advocates just to be sure I know my rights. Have had many messages from family and friends, all very encouraging and supportive. Another friend dropped by an hour ago for tea, volunteered her teenage son and his cousin, with her flatbed truck, so I have a team of mighty movers already in place, all within the first 24 hours! That has to be a good sign! 🙂 JudithFardig, I did see and I thank you for your offer, I may take you up on it, tho WHY you would want to spend your holiday grunting over a move is beyond me! I don’t tweet, but if you ask UTAL or Chipsticks to forward me your email, we can make contact. That would be awesome! UT or Chipsticks,, please proceed with connecting us! Okay, off to start sorting and tossing. Back later. I refuse to part with ANY of my campaign goodies! So there!

        • 40 57andfemale
          October 15, 2013 at 3:36 pm

          Your good heart should be a magnet for help and support. You deserve it. We all will help in any way we can.

  10. October 15, 2013 at 12:22 pm

  11. October 15, 2013 at 12:23 pm

    Whoa. @BarackObama has changed his twitter avatar:

    • 50 Ladyhawke
      October 15, 2013 at 12:37 pm

      The House GOP Proposal Is Still Extortion

      By Danny Vinik


      There seems to be some confusion over why the House GOP’s new proposal is still extortion while the Senate deal that Harry Reid and Mitch McConnell brokered yesterday isn’t so let’s break this down.

      In both deals, the continuing resolution lasts until January 15 and the debt ceiling is raised until February 7. As the White House has made abundantly clear, these are not concessions from either side. This is simply Congress doing its job.

      Here’s how the Senate proposal shapes up:



      (h/t Greg Sargent tweet)

      • 51 57andfemale
        October 15, 2013 at 12:42 pm

        Thanks! Been looking for this.

      • 52 57andfemale
        October 15, 2013 at 1:02 pm

        Still not buying it. the ‘give’ to Dem’s actually weakens ACA but makes unions happy for a few months extension. We can sell it as better (it is) but it is in no way a clean CR or clean debt ceiling increase.

        • 53 57andfemale
          October 15, 2013 at 1:09 pm

          I want to clarify: I have no problem with making a deal. But the deal would have to preclude this b.s. from happening again (if possible) but at the very least for a good, long time. Republicans have acted shamefully, recklessly and in violation of their oath to the Constitution and their duty to the country. For that, this particular tactic should be neutered.

          So if we’re going to invite a significant premium hike in 2015 by delaying a provision that helps mitigate the risk of insuring sick and older people, then this b.s. extortion tactic has to END. The Republicans OWE this country and the world that, at the very least.

  12. 54 amk for obama
    October 15, 2013 at 12:24 pm

  13. October 15, 2013 at 12:25 pm

    • October 15, 2013 at 12:40 pm

      Well boo freaking hoo. You vote against your best interest but not only that you send people to Congress with the express purpose of destroying your best interest and suddenly your shocked and hurt when they do what you want.

      Grab a shovel Mr Greenjeans and start digging. You are on your own and stop that crying before your tears freeze.

    • 58 isonprize
      October 15, 2013 at 12:42 pm

      The stupid. It burns…

    • 59 GGail
      October 15, 2013 at 1:04 pm

      They’re too busy chasing their tails and biting off their own noses to pay attention to some cattle that didn’t come in from the snow.

    • 60 MightyPamela
      October 15, 2013 at 3:21 pm

      Uh, hello?

    • 61 nospin
      October 15, 2013 at 4:32 pm

      I know I should not respond in this way but…. this article is a thing of beauty. too funny.

      Yes I support the govt shutdown to be more fiscally responsible but why aren’t they here to lend a hand after disasters like this?


  14. 62 Linda
    October 15, 2013 at 12:27 pm

    12:21 pm
    The Newest (Old) Sticking Point: Birth Control
    The latest thing that House Republicans are demanding in order to throw their support to a funding and debt limit bill? A birth-control related provision that allows the owner of a non-religious to opt out of covering birth control for their female employees, citing religious reasons.

    Coverage for birth control copays is one of the provisions in Obamacare, but Republicans have claimed that it requires employers to cover abortion. It does not.

    Two things to remember about this latest push: First, even if this is the magic puzzle piece to get House Republicans to approve their leadership’s proposal, it’s not going to go far. Sen. Harry Reid (D-NV) has already indicated that the House proposal is unworkable in the Senate, and this will only make it more unpalatable to Democrats there.

    Second, this fight originated over government funding and the country’s debt. It has always been about economics and budget. This demand by Republicans has absolutely nothing to do with the country’s finances, and shows just how little their demands have to do with our fiscal future.

    Live blog of think progress

    • 63 57andfemale
      October 15, 2013 at 12:59 pm

      Okay, they had this provision in their first bill that led to the shutdown. It would somehow work now?!?!

    • October 15, 2013 at 1:06 pm

    • 65 Lovepolitics2008
      October 15, 2013 at 1:10 pm

      Republicans threatening to blow up the economy if democrats and the President don’t accept a change dictated by extremist religious beliefs ?

      They’re nuts. And suicidal. I guess they need to see their poll numbers sink FURTHER before accepting reality.

      As for Boehner, are there words to describe how weak he is ?

      I have no doubt the extremists will lose in the end. Extremists ALWAYS lose. Problem is it could take some time before they’re rendered powerless and they’ll have done a lot of damage in the process.

      These guys are neo-confederates. Fascinating that this “reincarnation” of the Confederates is going to be crushed by a President who in many ways is the reincarnation of President Lincoln… same brilliance, same honesty and courage, same empathy towards others.

  15. 66 japa21
    October 15, 2013 at 12:28 pm

  16. 67 hopefruit2
    October 15, 2013 at 12:31 pm

    MSNBC needs to the check its adolescent employees…the optics of Alex Wagner and Luke Russert giggling about the impending debt ceiling default like two 14-yr olds discussing a HS fad on facebook is just horrible…

    • 68 Linda
      October 15, 2013 at 12:36 pm

      Both children of privilege …….I find her be to snarky …….

      • 69 hopefruit2
        October 15, 2013 at 12:39 pm

        Privilege or not – they too will suffer if this country defaults, something they need to be reminded of. And besides, they’re way too old too be acting this way on National TV – reinforces the idea that they are unqualified for the positions they hold at MSNBC.

    • 72 dotster3
      October 15, 2013 at 12:45 pm

      I’m going to excuse them on that—–because this whole thing is beyond beyond insanity—–there are no words that are crazy enough—-they were laughing at the maniac madness that Repubs may push a default because they can’t screw over their own staffers. Sometimes all you can do is laugh or you might be tempted to bang your head repeatedly against a cement wall or jump off a bridge to end the exposure to all this psychotic behavior brought on by a small band of wild-eyed, catastrophe-causing kookheads in our government.

    • 74 cookemom
      October 15, 2013 at 12:50 pm

      Surprisingly for me, the responses from everyone (except Chuck Todd) on MSNBC today from Joe Smoe to Alex and Luke, ranged from incredulous to disbelief with what the GOP was trying to pull. I didn’t think they were being giggly as in disrespecting the seriousness of a default. They were in agreement with the rest of the panel that the Pubs were, once again, shooting themselves in the foot. Luke was the one who said that they were willing to shut down the government over how they can screw their $29,000.00 staffer out of employer subsidized healthcare.

      Now Chuck was a whole different story with his concern trolling by saying that he was surprised at the Dem heated rhetoric, after Pelosi and others responded to Boehner’s non-presser presser.

      • 75 hopefruit2
        October 15, 2013 at 12:59 pm

        I will give them the benefit of the doubt this time – as you and dotster have indicated, the sheer ludicrousness of the GOP plan could produce a chuckle or two.

        As for UpChuck – he’s a GOP shill/tool and disgusting human being, and I wouldn’t be so kind as to call him “adolescent” as I did with Wagner and Russert.

    • October 15, 2013 at 1:15 pm

      Agree wholeheartedly. Can’t stand either of them.

      I know I sound like Dana Carvey’s “grumpy old man” on SNL, but the network anchors in the 1960s and 1970s were mostly former war correspondents with experience in WWII, Korea and/or Vietnam.

      Not promoting wars (pacifist here), but the point I’m getting at is that they hadn’t spent their entire lives on the Acela expressway (DC-NYC) after enduring the grueling ordeal of some Ivy League college or another (snark).

      Only MSMer I watch now is @Lawrence; he brings good perspective (and humor) to his reports.

      • October 15, 2013 at 1:40 pm

        Arapaho, I was saying this same thing to my husband this morning. Journalists and Republicans in other decades had their patriotism forged in the epic battle of WWII when the nation’s very life was a risk. Whether they were inherently conservative or not, they had seen the true jaws of death and weren’t frivolous with the safety or economic fate of the US. They would fight on policy points, but bringing it all down because they could not get their way would have been unthinkable. Today’s numbnuts are like callow adolescents who think joy riding off the cliff is a barrel of laughs cause they themselves are bound to jump out in time.

  17. 78 amk for obama
    October 15, 2013 at 12:31 pm

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  20. 87 57andfemale
    October 15, 2013 at 12:58 pm

  21. 88 Linda
    October 15, 2013 at 1:02 pm

    Jonathon Karl wants to know….down to the exact time….including seconds when the country will default.

    Jay told him multiple times that that is a question for Treasury.

  22. October 15, 2013 at 1:05 pm

    Saw this is Chips’ twitter timeline, and couldn’t resist responding to upChuck.

    Don’t normally watch him, but thought something new might be happening this morning on the DC debacle, and his laughable *reporting* was basically accepting everything Charlie Dent (R-PA) said.

    Now he’s trying to save face, but sooner or later, after being 100% WRONG at his job, aren’t any of his bosses going to notice?

    And, speaking of good ol’ Charlie Dent:

  23. 101 jacquelineoboomer
    October 15, 2013 at 1:05 pm

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  25. 110 yardarm756
    October 15, 2013 at 1:28 pm

    G’day mates. I submit this George Carlin description of the GOP House.

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