President Barack Obama meets with House Democratic leaders in the Oval Office at the White House
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President Obama’s interview with WABC-TV, New York City. [Conducted before 12PM ET…events are still fluid]
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President Barack Obama and Vice President Joe Biden meet with the House Democratic Leadership including, House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi, Rep. Jame Clyburn, Rep. Xavier Becerra, Rep. Steve Crowley, House Minority Whip Steny Hoyer, Rep. Chris Chris Van Hollen and Rep. Steve Israel, during a meeting on the debt limit in the Oval Office
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President Barack Obama listens as House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi speaks
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President Barack Obama and Vice President Joe Biden meet with the House Democratic Leadership
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House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi (D-CA) speaks to the media following a meeting with President Barack Obama on the debt limit and reopening the government
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The Obama Diary 
I am going for it…..To Leave TODers a Message:
Hello TOD 😉
Helloooooooooooo Nena! 😀
Hey Lady Dudette 🙂
If you are interested in who Jim De Mint really is please see my comment late on the last thread and see if it is illuminating for you today.
Do bring it over so many can see it Vicki
Apologies, Nena. I am a dunce electronically, so no can do.
Here’ya go, Vicki.
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Vicki
October 15, 2013 at 6:18 pm
It is getting even clearer. Coup d’etat.
Some historical contest that may clarify what’s what for anyone still baffled.
Early in President Obama’s first term there was a military coup in Honduras. The Military came to the Presidential Palace in the middle of the night and President Zelaya was taken, in his pajamas, to Costa Rica.
The USA, protecting its own interests, decided to support Zelaya verbally but not to do anything else.
Jim De Mint, on the other hand, went to Honduras ON HIS OWN—against the wishes of the US gov’t especially against John Kerry his fellow senator and Chairman of the Foreign relations Committee.
He went to Honduras to stand with the RW Military. That is who he is.
De Mint and his fellow travelers revere RW dictators like Pol Pot mainly for those dictators relentless cruelty in imposing their will on their populations.
They believe in gaining power by any means necessary.
President Obama knows all this and in some measure has probably expected this day to come.
Our President is one very smart and tough guy. I love my President. I trust him and stand with him whatever he decides is the best way forward for our country.
TY so much, Bobfr. We share one key message—Trust PBO.
Now those are all Gorgeous photographs, especially, the Very 1st Photograph.
Well, it is to be hoped the adults will be allowed to do what adults do – get this sorted out.
For me, WABC Eyewitness News will ALWAYS mean these two:
Leader Pelosi was Speaker for 4 yrs. Did her job with great distinction.
Weeper John Boehner? Truly su*ks at his job. Yet the media and many in DC are trying their best to cover for him. Now my question is: What is John Boehner holding over these people to continue to cover for him? Is there The Boehner Mafia?
Congrats on 1st Nena!!
Very well done, UT!!!!
#TrustBarack
😎
We could encourage him to switch parties! Nah… forget that! 😀 😀 😀
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No two ways about it. We are now in a fight to do way more than prevent default.
#TrustBarack
I just got on; what do you think is going on at this point Bob?
Everyone is realizing that President Obama knows exactly what is at stake and he is going to take the battle to them. The details will unfold in the next 24 h.
#TrustBarack
Should be one hell of a wild ride. You think he knew this was coming sooner or later?
Absolutely, Sherry. President Obama served in the Senate with De Mint. The President knows who his opponents are and what they are likely to do.
Good time for the old cool photo of POTUS in shades saying I Got This.
Yes, Sherry, he’s known ever since his re-election that this day would come. The GOP made it abundantly clear when, since March, with a budget passed in both the House and Senate, they refused to go to Conference.
I also think that some number of House and Senate Republicans (and, probably quite a few ‘Establishment’ Republicans) know that it is in the best interest of the Republican Party that President Obama not allow a minority to prevail. The Presidency would become untenable unless both Houses of Congress and the Executive Branch were controlled by the same party.
So, unless your objective is to destroy American Democracy, you have to be grateful that the current President facing this coup d’etat is Barack Obama.
#FORWARD
Now Elephants are flying……Darrell Issa…..perhaps he now worried about his Millions now?
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/issa-i-ll-vote-for-a-clean-cr-to-fund-government
what does soon-to-be-speaker nancy pelosi mean by ‘let them sow their oats’?
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/obama-boehner-can-t-control-his-caucus
“The problem that we’ve got is that for Speaker Boehner for example, him negotiating with me isn’t necessarily good for the extreme faction in his caucus. It weakens him,” Obama said in an interview with WABC. “So there have been repeated situations where we have agreements then he goes back and it turns out that he can’t control his caucus.”
http://abclocal.go.com/wabc/video?id=9288322
POTUS Interview with a Local NY ABC 7
UT, thanks 57 gazillion times for the posts!
Anytime Chips. 😀
Ditto what Chips said! 😀
Thanks Dudette!
From me, too, UT!
The NY Mayoral debate for those interested will be shown live starting at 7PM ET on the NY ABC 7
http://abclocal.go.com/wabc/live
Apologize for the dkos link, but I can’t believe these 7 shameful Dems voted with the tea party in the House today to deny a vote
These few red-state Democrats are not the problem. And the less time we spend focusing on them, the better off we will be.
The BLAME should go fairly and squarely to John Boehner and his TeaBaggers. John Boehner is 3rd in line for the Presidency and he cannot and will not reign in the extremist factions in his party because the entire GOP is beholden to corporate extremists who want PBO to fail.
Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes and Yes.
ALL blame and fingerpointing to Republicans.
excellent, hf! completely agree. i’d say equal blame goes to republicans for being evil, and then “the news” for providing cover for their lies. if we had an actual press anymore, they’d never be able to get away with their insanity.
You are so right.
WELL, ISN’T THIS RICH
Thank you for pointing out Halperin’s own “errors”! Too little, too late.
Bwahahahahahaha!!!! 😀
🙄 😆 🙄
That’s Episcopalians for ya….. glad to be one.
In case some of you have forgotten…a little refresher on Jim Demint. As head of “Conservatives for Patient’s Rights”, in July 2009, he organized 104 conservative activists for a conference call dealing with health care reform. During the call, Sen. Jim DeMint offered,
“If we’re able to stop Obama on this, it will be his Waterloo. It will break him.”
Most people know that Waterloo refers to the defeat and fall of Napoleon at the Battle of Waterloo. The term represents a final crushing defeat…”he met his Waterloo”. On the other hand, the reference to “breaking” him is an old Southern term that referred to a Master’s ability to arrest the rebellious spirit of a slave and bring him to submission.
I figure old Demint is feeling “beat” in more ways than one.
Dudette, I think this is where you play “The Hunter Gets Captured by the Game”. 🙂
Having lived in Georgia as I long as I have, I know that snake from SC quite well. Apparently it wasn’t enough for him to just leave Congress, go quietly, make his dirty money and leave the rest of us alone. Oh no. Well, I hope PBO crushes him and his slimy benefactors into the ground.
This was actually his plan all along. It’s why he left the Senate.
Exactly!
Fully agree with Meta and Dudette.
Do you know who did a video about Demint’s influence and involvement in the current shutdown? I thought it was Maddow, but i went looking and didn’t find it. It was one in which the group Demint leads was discussed and its connecting arms highlighted, etc. etc.
If anyone can lay hands on this without too much sweat, It would be a nice time to share it.
Don’t know, but I sure want to see it.
I wish I could remember – all I remember is how the journo showed Demint’s clear connection to each aspect of the fight to destroy ACA. If it crosses my path again I’ll be sure to share.
There was a graphic of DeMint and Heritage tentacles that someone tweeted a few days ago and I’ve been looking for that, too, without any luck.
Something will surface soon, Meta. I honestly can’t even remember if what I saw was a video or an article. That’s the problem I have because I tend to follow all links then forget them a second or two after If I don’t expressly save them. 🙄
Watch him. Those mofo’s are up to something. I’ve been hearing “impeachment” murmurs and I ain’t likin’ it one bit. 😦
Faypax, I hope I am wrong but I don’t see DeMint feeling beaten any time soon. Rachel celebrated when DeMint left the Senate, thinking that ended his influence. Obviously, it didn’t.
De Mint will lose this round but he and his band of destroyers will keep at it.
For them this is a zero sum game that they haven’t won yet.
By any means necessary is their credo.
I think they will hound our President every second of the next 3+years. To thee folks they Never lose. they just haven’t achieved total victory yet.
The threat they present is to our entire system of representative democracy.
Again, I sure hope I’m wrong about this.
I’m sad to say, I agree with you Vicki. They will leave no stone unturned. They will play every angle.
Totally off-topic, but thought this might make you feel better about Kansas.
(Ravanchi is the deputy foreign minister for Iran)
Was that for me Arapaho?….I don’t feel better…clicking heels….I want to go home! 🙂
Passed a caravan of six or seven pickups today, all flying Confederate flags. Amurka is going to hell in a handbasket.
Oh dear.
Sorry.
Just so excited to a journalist who isn’t an Ivy League grad. The US has hundreds of great Universities that aren’t part of the Ivy League.
Okay, you just lost me, but I certainly agree. The Ivy Leagues are old and have lots and lots of money. I have friends and family who have crawled through all of them…they aren’t any brighter than anyone else. In fact, some of them are downright dumb. 🙂
Good Evening TODers! The posts are coming so fast, trying to play catch up is almost a losing battle. [sigh]
As I read about the continuing saga of the GOP’s terrorist attack on the government and the economy, it’s as if I’m reading some work of fiction… a dystopian novel where you think the actions and events are conceivable, but farfetched enough that you can’t believe it would ever happen; at least not in your lifetime. You would think that the author was a genius in conceiving such characters as the antagonists in this work. The Tea Party, GOP Congress, MSM – all characters that you would think are too absurd to be real.
Yet, here we are, living through this real life drama and finding it difficult to believe what we are witnessing.
I’m usually not into poll-watching this far out from any election, but what the hay, it’s Christmas in October…
wider margins in other polls.
True representation of the American People…
President Barack Obama and Vice President Joe Biden with the House Democratic Leadership including, House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi, Rep. Jame Clyburn, Rep. Xavier Becerra, Rep. Steve Crowley, House Majority Leader Steny Hoyer, Rep. Chris Chris Van Hollen and Rep. Steve Israel.
Not that it matters, but I think Steny Hoyer is the Minority Whip?
Won’t happen, but I like the thinking here. They’re running a coup, so treat ’em like what they are…
Hi UT,
Slight typo under second photo – Steny Hoyer is Minority Party Whip not Majority Party Leader 🙂
#FORWARD
Wishful thinking. 🙂
Sooner the better 🙂
Amen to that!
Thanks!
Of course, UT!
Where’s 99ts? Is it 3 in the morning in her world now?
Started to respond her crystal-clear observation on the last thread, then noticed a new (and very busy) thread:
“Is the US the only country in the world that votes as requested by external organizations – I know there are lobbyists in my world – but when parliament is in session – they do not interrupt the legislative process. It seems that it is outside influences that have killed bipartisanship – as much as republicans.
The world is watching in stunned silence while democracy has a vacation in the USA.”
My response is:
Before Barack Obama took the national stage, I got most of my current-events news from The Economist magazine, so only have a cursor recollection of recent US political history.
But I truly believe that this is unprecendented in living memory.
Now the plutocrats openly declare that they control SCOTUS and Congress. They no longer need to hide behind “special interest groups” lobbys any more.
SCOTUS has handed them this power and they are clearly taking the opportunity to undermine our Constitution and this democracy.
Truly unbelievable and stunning.
House GOP and Hertitage/Koch/ALEC are all treasonous traitors and should be adjudicated accordingly.
http://theobamadiary.com/2013/10/15/medal-of-honor-captain-william-swenson/#comments
Hi Arapahoa – thankyou for replying 🙂 – It is 9.24am Oct 16 in my world – We are 14 hours ahead of US Eastern Time (which will be 15 hours when you drop summertime in November)
The idea of “scoring” what members do in congress and using that to “primary” them – is the weirdest thing for my brain to understand. We don’t have primary elections, political parties select who will run – but maybe 1, or at the most 2 members are replaced through the selection – and they have to have been the most awful reps for this to ever be considered – OR – there is a party powerbroker looking for a “safe” seat & they go looking for a member to “give up” their seat for him/her.
Over here they treat their positions as ‘career’ positions with retirement and benefit plans. It’s a job, not a service and therein lies the problem. If we could reduce their salaries by 50% and put in term limits that would help.
They have the same thoughts here in regard to retirement plans – although recent legislation stopped the massive payouts for new members (those still there are reaping the millions) – health care, of course, as in most countries has NOTHING to do with employment.
Thus said, the equivalent of a “primary usually only happens if there have been financial/criminal charges against a member. It is also very rare for people to not vote with their party in the house of reps – and if the two houses are in disagreement it is usually negotiations in the Senate that resolve things. Alternatively the PM can call an election – any time – if a bill is rejected.
I like yours.
Read this…
i’ve been saying this exact thing. they never care for kids right in their communities, but hell yeah, let’s mow that yard for the TV cameras! it’s really just all about them and their egos.
Definitely. And there are no TV cameras at the homes of needy children and families.
Hard to believe Boehner wanted to send his staff into healthcare bankruptcy – because somehow that would tell the President how strong is the GOP. He can’t be sober – or sane.
My thoughts are if this staff healthcare incident does not sway the GOP staff to rethink their party affiliation nothing will.
Please bear with me if this question has been asked and answered…
How does the rule change that the GOP pushed through to insure the government shutdown impact the discharge petition? Or does it? In other words, what’s the status of the discharge petition?
I think it renders it MOOT.
Thanks Meta. That’s what I thought but wanted to confirm it.
I’ve been cussing up a storm today. Guess Father Stephen’s gonna be un-following me any minute. 🙂
It’s warranted and I’m sure you will be forgiven. 😉
Thanks swbga! 🙂
Sheesh! how old is this guy? Sushi is as common now as a cheesburger & french fries.
JHC.
We’re in the middle of a plutocrat-led coup, enabled by our unethical SCOTUS and MSM, and he thinks anyone outside of f**king DC cares?
This is why I don’t follow journalists. Got way too mad at them.
Like how Halperin tweeted out that photo from “the Senate cafe.” How’d he get that photo? When he was eating at the Senate cafe?
I’m with you, however, Dudette. I don’t give a shit about him. Just killing time until the so-called Republican party falls into the abyss, so I can stand up and applaud.
^5!
TODville should be taking the actions of Demint and other lobbyists seriously because they control SCOTUS. Recall Malala discussed the corruption in her country stemmed from corrupt judges (see my response to 99ts above — I think she’s not here now).
Carl Bernstein was on @Lawrence last Wednesday and he was pleading for Americans to connect-the-dots, as he and Woodward did with Watergate 40 years ago.
And the saga continues:
by this they mean:
‘reopen government’=make sure my paycheck still comes in
‘prevent default’=make sure my friends in business get their money
‘express optimism’=we are at a complete standstill
BINGO!
I don’t get this—-what diff does it make if the Senate leaders reach an agreement. Isn’t it Boehner and the House that’s the huge prob? Who have thrown roadblock after roadblock and refuse to do anything other than continue craziness?
I guess the idea is that if the Senate is able to get a clean CR and DL bipartisan bill passed and ready by Thursday – it would put pressure on the House to act. Then it will be clear to everyone who’s the problem if either Beohner fails to bring the Senate bill to the House floor for a vote, or the House GOP votes against it.
This is also my best guess about the endgame.
Nancy Smash will corral her caucus and Boehner will have to gather up his dregs.
Then we make many, many campaign videos out of the horrendous lack of responsibility and malfeasance of this RWNJ House.
It’s a long shot (everything is right now) but if the Senate sends their compromise bill to the House, the House Dems. together with “moderate” Rs (some have made a rational sounds) COULD push a discharge petition and FORCE a vote on the floor of the House. D’boner couldn’t stop it. All of the Dems and 17-18 “moderate” Rs could pass the bill. Why? Oh I don’t know, maybe just maybe a few of them don’t want to be responsible for their country getting flushed down?
Thanks much, magapie and everyone, for the clarification. It’s way too much nutty nuttiness for me.
The Senate doesn’t seem to be the problem – or am I just completely lost in what is happening?
A strong bi-partisan Senate vote gives the House cover to do what is right.
Thanks Vicki – that makes sense
I hope I didn’t contribute to that mess?
😦 😦
unless your name is bush, cheney, rumsfeld, or rice, you’re not to blame.
well, i blame anyone who voted for these people who were obviously insane even before they created that whole mess, especially in 2004 when it was already clear what was going on. i blame every republican voter for those deaths, including relatives and now former “friends” of mine. there’s something really wrong in their brains if they continue to support these murderous republicans, and i simply do not want or need that influence in my life anymore. feel like weights lifted off my shoulders getting those people out of my life, and that includes the relatives.
i think jovie was referring to having served in the military in that war–thus the reference to the leaders.
i also have a very difficult time being civil in the grocery store, etc, with acquaintances, friends, and relatives who continue to defend republican votes. one good friend is married to a rabid right winger, and i won’t phone her at home because i cannot stand to speak to him. i’m less and less able to maintain that friendship–what is wrong with her, living with him? another friend’s husband thinks democrats and republicans are the same. we cannot have them for dinner anymore, as he won’t shut up on the subject. so that friendship is also getting thin. and so on. it indeed helps my peace of mind to have no contact with the crazies. and i’m so grateful to those who have the stomach for persuasion–some folks seem to be changing their minds, if the polls are any indication.
Amen ❗
Will this be tweeted to all of the media assholes! Fuck them all!!!! Forgive me also Father Stephen!
I hope November 2014 will be even MORE depressing for them….
I wonder if at somewhere between the 1st and 40-something vote to repeal Obamacare, did anyone in the GOP House say to their fellow GOP House members that what they were doing was insane. Was there any among them who was capable of rational thought and had the backbone to express it?
https://twitter.com/SocialustGal13/status/390262468347326464
The media aided and abetted the Tea party RWNJs every step of the way
Tweety “Sometimes both parties are wrong, this time one party is wrong”
Tweety has just discovered his democratic roots – wonder what it will take for people like Halperin to stop shilling for the GOP?
Tweety’s looking at his stock portfolio and wondering whether he should have sold or shorted, that’s all.
Whatever it takes Dudette – I cannot believe so many in the media are “enjoying” the demise of democracy. I have no doubt many in congress are already shorting the stock market.
What the RW TParty don’t recognize is that by creating a crisis with govt. shutdown, threatening America, they actually prove the value of govt. and politically strengthen the President who is the one who stands for security and safety in the midst of uncertainty and threat.
99ts, here’s definitive proof that what lobbyists and SCOTUS is doing is unprecedented in American politics (but not unprecedented in American warfare).
Sabato is the DC beltway’s favorite Political Science professor. He’s frequently quoted by MSM of all stripes:
Sabato believes POTUS may invoke the 14th amendment.
As is this author (whom I don’t always agree with):
New post.
http://theobamadiary.com/2013/10/15/gop-shutdown-update/
I know the following may sound a little extreme, but it is, in actuality, exactly what the GOP is doing. In fact, the terrorists would do less damage in reality than what GOP is threatening to do.
As usual the “little boy fool” on MSNBC is not correctly giving the facts – He will NOT say the GOP refuse to pass a clean bill. He is a tool, a fool and a little boy who has no experience of life and no idea what political analysis is supposed to do.