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Rise and Shine

On This Day: The President walks into a hospital room at Walter Reed National Military Medical Center in Bethesda, Md., where he presented a wounded warrior with a Purple Heart, Oct. 10, 2011 (Photo by Pete Souza)

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Today (all times Eastern):

12:0: Press briefing by Jay Carney

1:45: The President and Vice President meet with the Senate Democratic Caucus, State Dining Room

4:35: Meet with the House Republican Leadership, Roosevelt Room

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What it’s all about:

Washington Post: Obamacare saved my family from financial ruin

House Speaker John Boehner and his tea party friends shut down the U.S. government because of people like me. I am the mother of an insurance hog, someone who could have blown through his lifetime limit of health coverage by the time he was 14. My son has managed to survive despite seemingly insurmountable challenges, and he wears his preexisting condition like a Super Bowl ring.

Mason, now 16, was probably born with his brain tumor. We discovered it six years ago …. Mason spent most of eighth grade in the hospital. In the six months he was hospitalized, he spent 65 days in the pediatric intensive care unit. He underwent four brain surgeries. Halfway through his hospitalization, the Affordable Care Act was passed, alleviating lifetime limits on coverage and saving us from the financial abyss….

…. what is wrong with allowing us to purchase a financial safety net? What’s so un-American about that?

If I could get John Boehner and Ted Cruz I would tell them that, while they were busy trying to derail the Affordable Care Act over the past two years, Mason has again learned to walk, talk, eat and shoot a three-point basket.

Full article here

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Steve Benen: GOP sets trap, falls in, seeks way out

Just a few weeks ago, congressional Republicans had high hopes about pending showdowns in Washington. They’d target an unpopular health care law; the public would rally behind them; Democrats would splinter; Republicans would unify; and President Obama would cave. It’d be … awesome.

We now know, of course, that none of these things actually happened. Indeed, yesterday seemed to mark a turning point – Republican leaders started moving away from their “Obamacare” demands; powerhouse conservative groups publicly distanced themselves from GOP strategies; and polls pointed to a flailing and failing party.

Last week, the consensus in Republican circles seemed to be, “We can win this thing.” Yesterday, party officials transitioned to, “We need to get out of this thing.”

More here

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James Poniewozik (Time): Not “Both Sides,” Now: Why False Equivalence Matters in the Shutdown Showdown

People can argue the rights and wrongs of the showdown, but pinning the crisis on a bipartisan failure of “Congress” is a media copout

….. One party (in fact, essentially one wing of the Republican party), seeking the elimination or delay of Obamacare, precipitated a government shutdown and threatened to force a default on U.S. debt. Period. There was no corresponding threat or demand on the Democratic or White House side; having gotten the Affordable Care Act into law three years ago, they are not in the situation of saying, “Pass Obamacare or we shut ‘er down.”

That’s the situation. To accurately describe it, as news coverage should, is not to endorse an ideology. It’s not to say that Obamacare is good or bad. It’s not to say that Republicans do or don’t have good reasons to oppose it. It’s not to say that Democrats have or haven’t sought political benefit in the aftermath. But it correctly places the impetus where it belongs.

More here

See video of Lawrence O’Donnell and Carl Bernstein discussing the ‘false equivalence’ – here

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The Atlantic: False Equivalence That Leans on Public Opinion Is Still False Equivalence

…. The last few weeks have seen a sort of media-insider debate about whether journalists are wrong to blame both parties for a shutdown that seems rather obviously to be a Republican creation….

In a piece for National Journal, Ron Fournier leans on public opinion to show that, no, in fact, both Republicans and Democrats deserve a big serving of blame for the shut-down government, because Americans think they’re both to blame….

Rather than free readers from the shackles of false equivalence, this sort of argument actually solidifies the worst kind of false equivalence. It holds up the misinformation of survey respondents — whose opinions have been shaped by both-parties-are-to-blame coverage….

Public polls are a fine gauge of public opinion, but they’re not to be treated as a barometer of reality. Pretending otherwise mixes up the regurgitated misinformation of readers with the careful analysis of people who are in the business of busting misinformation.

If that’s not serving up false equivalence, what is?

Full post here

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Charles Pierce: A Child’s Garden Of Politics

I mentioned earlier today that Paul Ryan, the zombie-eyed granny-starver from Wisconsin, had come out with an op-ed in The Wall Street Journal in which he postulated that the Reign Of The Morons could end if only we admitted that he and Mitt Romney really had won the election – and, therefore, the right to enact their economic plan – in 2012. I also speculated that there would be at least a few nominally sane people inside the Beltway who’d buy Ryan’s latest crock of beans as the act of a statesman.

Step right up, my man Chuck Todd. And friends…..

More here

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Paul Krugman: They Can’t Handle the Truth

It’s remarkable and scary to watch Republican leaders trying to extract themselves from the box they’re in. They have now figured out that Obama won’t eviscerate health reform under threat — although their base refuses to believe it. They still can’t face the reality that Obama won’t offer any concessions, of any kind, under threat….

I would say that Cantor and Ryan seem, gradually, to be edging toward facing reality. But we don’t have much time. Can they come to grips with the failure of extortion before it’s time to shoot the hostage? I wouldn’t bet on it.

Full post here

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MooooOOOOoooorning everyone! A bunch of stuff came up yesterday so I wasn’t able to be around at all, so MASSIVE thanks to UT for keeping everything going sooooo beautifully, and to LL and Zizi for their wonderful contributions. I like you people. A lot.

This was a bit of a rushed R&S, as you might possibly have noticed, have to look after a few bits and pieces, but will catch up later in the day.


129 Responses to “Rise and Shine”


  1. 1 Allison
    October 10, 2013 at 9:02 am

    GM All!

  2. October 10, 2013 at 9:08 am

    Good Morning Chipsticks, TODers…Everyone!

  3. 11 Linda
    October 10, 2013 at 9:09 am

    So…Cory Booker’s opponant is/was the head of Americans for Prosperity in New Jersey and is claiming AFP is NOT a teaparty group ?

    I saw this morning that he is bringing Sarah Palin to NJ to campaign for him. teehee

    • 12 nospin
      October 10, 2013 at 9:12 am

      I guess he said he doesn’t have enough rocks in his pocket and wants to sink himself faster.

      Go SayPay!

    • 13 Ladyhawke
      October 10, 2013 at 9:23 am

      LONEGAN ADMIRES RAFAEL TED CRUZ, RAND PAUL AND MARCO RUBIO

      Booker, Lonegan Have Heated Final Debate In New Jersey Senate Race

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      Booker has sought to portray his opponent as an extremist and ideologue, like the House Republicans who’ve shut down the government to stall the nation’s new health care law.

      “Sending him to Washington would be like pouring gasoline on a fire,” Booker said.

      Lonegan said he supports the shutdown because the health care law should be delayed and said he admires politicians who are unafraid to “advocate for liberty,” such as Texas’ U.S. Sen. Ted Cruz, Kentucky’s U.S. Sen. Rand Paul and Florida’s U.S. Sen. Marco Rubio.

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      http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2013/10/09/booker-lonegan-have-heated-final-debate-in-new-jersey-senate-race/

  4. 14 GGAIL
    October 10, 2013 at 9:12 am

    Good West Coast morning Chipsticks & TOD family.
    Paul Ryan`s editorial should have been in the Comics section!

  5. 15 amk for obama
    October 10, 2013 at 9:14 am

    no, emt? tardy, tardy, tardy. tsk, tsk, tsk.

  6. 16 99ts
    October 10, 2013 at 9:14 am

    Like that O’Donnell/Bernstein mention Cantor – he is hiding away – letter others take the heat. Cantor is Cassius in all ways.

    • 17 57andfemale
      October 10, 2013 at 10:18 am

      I’m uncomfortable with the ‘Cantor retreat’ meme. I see it another way. Everyone seems to think he ‘retreated’ because he didn’t mention ACA in the op ed yesterday. But Republican are the masters at message. Cantor put the focus on ‘entitlements’. And yesterday the memo got out to Repubs: ACA was now referred to as an ‘entitlement.’

      Cantor, quite deviously, changed the terminology to lull us into a sense of relief. It seemed to work quite well because that’s what I’ve been hearing – Republican leadership looking for a way out. I think they have twisted things, changed the goal posts yet again and this thing is far from over.

      • 18 99ts
        October 10, 2013 at 10:27 am

        I sure don’t think he is “retreating” 57af – I think he is letting others take the heat (that is what I meant by hiding) while doing all he can to bring down President Obama – couldn’t do it in an election so now looking for other means. They all know how much PBO cares about the US – they are going to take this blackmail as far as they can – and the media is still helping them do that.

        • 19 57andfemale
          October 10, 2013 at 10:38 am

          I’m hearing it all over – it was not a comment directly specifically at you. Retreat, hide, change the conversation away from Obamacare – VICTORY. I am forever astounded at liberal pundits that I respect who are all-too-quickly ready to believe that danger has passed. Cantor snakily couched ACA under ‘entitlements’. I listened to a lot of liberal talk yesterday, and I was astounded at how quickly all these minions got that memo.

          Meanwhile, the ‘all sides do it” meme is sticking, even though there is universally more blame on Republicans. But the truth of such intransigence – completely unreported by our alleged press. Despicable.

  7. 20 desertflower
    October 10, 2013 at 9:17 am

    Morning everyone:)

  8. October 10, 2013 at 9:18 am

    G’morning Chips, TOD, lurkers, everyone, and congrats Allison on #1 🙂

  9. 22 vcprezofan2
    October 10, 2013 at 9:19 am

    Good Morning, Allison, great way to ‘start’ your day – on top!

    Good Morning TODobots! Good Morning, Chips Chica!

    Prayers & good virtual vibes, and hugs going out to all family members who are in pain, or in need, today.

  10. October 10, 2013 at 9:21 am

    Good morning swbluega, Allison, nospin and Chipsticks. Jack Lew is so clear and holding strong in explaining the risks we are now in due to the rwnjs.

  11. 31 Layla
    October 10, 2013 at 9:22 am

    Good morning all! Enjoy your day!

  12. October 10, 2013 at 9:27 am

    Is it my imagination or are the Democrats getting soft? I keep reading that different Democrats are saying a deal can be struck.

    • 36 hopefruit2
      October 10, 2013 at 9:37 am

      I would be very careful about these rumors. There have been all kinds of rumors being spread since last week about Dems “caving.” That is more a reflection of wishful thinking on the part of the MSM and GOP, and even some in the PL circles who want to get a false narrative going.

      To date I have no hard evidence of Dems going soft on anything. I would advise folks to watch CSPAN and not the Cable TV “news” segments, because you get direct words from the actual Senators and congresspersons, not agenda-driven media spin and distortion.

      • October 10, 2013 at 9:57 am

        Thanks, Hopefruit. I actually try to avoid television…all of it, though I find trying to read an unbiased, factual news report is just as bad.

        • 38 hopefruit2
          October 10, 2013 at 10:04 am

          True – even print/Internet media is problematic these days. They’re all controlled by the same entities.

    • 39 57andfemale
      October 10, 2013 at 10:23 am

      I have a real fear that SOME Wall St.-connected Dem’s like Chuck Schumer can be ‘persuaded’ to go along with a bill that ‘pays interest on our debt’ if there is a default. That would be a serious ‘cave’.

      the leverage we have right now is the damage to bond holders. If we ‘pay interest on our debt’ that will take away pressure from business and Wall St. to push to end the madness, because they would be taken care of, first, and damn the rest of us.

      • 40 jziglar
        October 10, 2013 at 11:22 am

        That’s not going to happen. Every democrat is advocating for a clean debt ceiling increase. Wall Street and the rest of the business community wants a clean debt ceiling increase.

        • 41 57andfemale
          October 10, 2013 at 1:16 pm

          I think the Monster that Republicans have created is finally getting noticed by Business and Wall St. these jackals cannot be trusted; and even if you pay the bond holders, this uncertainty is childish and dangerous for any long term goals.

  13. 42 japa21
    October 10, 2013 at 9:28 am

    The article from The Atlantic concerning Ron “GOP All The Way” Fournier’s claim that since polls show people blaming everybody means everybody is to blame hits it on the head. People believe what they are told, for the most part, and if media is presenting it as everybody to blame, then that is what they will believe.

    • October 10, 2013 at 9:32 am

      I just posted this morning about polling. Are we governing by polling public opinion these days? Of course, the idea is to mold public opinion, but I find it entirely sickening. I can’t remember when politics was so poll driven as now.

      • 44 Obama Grandmama
        October 10, 2013 at 12:59 pm

        Seems to me the press used to just present the facts and the public then decided what they thought about it. The polls were reflecting only what the public thought.
        Today big politically influenced corporations own the media putting out biased news with cable stations repeating the talking points endlessly. People choose to take in the information given that fit their own beliefs. Carl Bernstein also mentioned the audience choosing to watch/ hear what they want to hear last night. Then those same propagandists take polls of what the people think that have been listening to their talking points and use that info instead of truth or facts to judge the situation. Complacency, propaganda, corporate power based on profit and greed with a loss of personal integrity are causes of this present situation which is aided and abetted by the fall of honest journalism.

  14. 45 desertflower
    October 10, 2013 at 9:30 am

    I don’t know, but everything I read, everywhere I look, I see Republicans having a very bad, awful, no good, terrible day. That kind of news tends to ruffle feathers and get people flustered…then making them unable to make logical (not that they really ever did!) decisions…..this will become a HUGE snowball….perpetual motion is taking effect…..it will ALL come crashing down around them now, for the whole world to see…the man behind the curtain will be more and more exposed and the charade will be over. THIS was the long game, my friends:)

    • 46 57andfemale
      October 10, 2013 at 10:28 am

      What is heartening, for lack of a better word, is that there is pressure on these loons from their small communities. The pain IS being felt. Local papers are pushing to end this thing. I do think Republicans calculated that us great, unwashed masses would just disappear because we are so unimportant to them. Frankly, the military industrial complex swims along, Hagel added back enough civilians – Republicans have the government functioning that they care about. The pain is in the safety net and regulatory agencies – exactly what Republicans want to completely obliterate.

  15. 47 Jessica
    October 10, 2013 at 9:31 am

    I’m getting a little nervous, they have no incentive to do the right thing. They could easily just pass a bill raising the debt limit and nothing else. Boehner has no morals or values and absolutely no respect for the American people. For the first time I’m getting really anxious.

    • 48 nospin
      October 10, 2013 at 11:10 am

      What the GOP is attempting to do cannot stand regardless of the outcome. Hold fast and Stand strong. FORWARD!!!!

  16. 49 JER
    October 10, 2013 at 9:32 am

  17. 50 amk for obama
    October 10, 2013 at 9:33 am

  18. October 10, 2013 at 9:34 am

    Good morning all. Hope today is the beginning of the end of this terrible self inflicted nonsense. How people can be so callus and calculating is beyond me. Looking for tears from John Boehner. If he ain’t cryin’ he’s lying.

    • 55 57andfemale
      October 10, 2013 at 10:35 am

      “Meanwhile, some GOP leaders are backing off the idea of winning any substantial concessions on Obamacare, and want to “refocus” on entitlements and broader fiscal issues,”

      can’t believe all the decent liberal pundits like Greg Sargent falling for this: Republicans yesterday kept referring to Obamacare as an ‘entitlement’. It is astounding how many Teapublicans get the memo and flood the airwaves with the new message.

      ACA is NOT off the table. It would be part of their effort to gut Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid AND ACA in order to reopen the government.

  19. 56 hopefruit2
    October 10, 2013 at 9:38 am

  20. October 10, 2013 at 9:42 am

    Mooooooorning all you O’s!!!!! It’s a great getting up day here in the TOD universe.

    It sounds as if the looney tune characters are bumping into each other and doing the 3 Stooges nyuk, nyuk routine. Seriously, they’re poking each other in the eyes.

  21. 58 Ladyhawke
    October 10, 2013 at 9:49 am

    Congress Must Stop Using Default as a Weapon

    In this hostage crisis, a concession by Obama tied to the debt ceiling or CR would ensure that presidents would become regular instruments of extortion.

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    I have had some sympathy for Boehner, who is being buffeted by forces in his party beyond his control, with any attempt at leadership thwarted by a lack of followership. But my sympathy for him disappeared after his utterly disingenuous press conference Tuesday. The speaker talked about how all he wanted was to have a conversation and negotiation over spending issues, and that the failure to do so was un-American—this from the same speaker who, since the Senate adopted a budget several months ago, has steadfastly refused to appoint conferees to negotiate over the budget, after years of insisting that was all he wanted. The speaker suggested in his press conference that a clean CR, as proposed by President Obama, would mean total capitulation by Republicans—capitulation to the numbers he demanded!

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    http://www.nationaljournal.com/washington-inside-out/congress-must-stop-using-default-as-a-weapon-20131009?mrefid=HomepageRiver

  22. 59 japa21
    October 10, 2013 at 9:58 am

  23. 60 MightyPamela
    October 10, 2013 at 10:02 am

    Mornin’ y’all!

  24. 61 hopefruit2
    October 10, 2013 at 10:07 am

  25. 62 Allison
    October 10, 2013 at 10:08 am

    I hope the Rs do not mess up PBO’s departure date to Hawaii. It seems like every year, they make it their mission to do so. I want PBO to leave with his family and have an enjoyable, relaxing, vacation when it comes.

  26. 63 JER
    October 10, 2013 at 10:15 am

  27. October 10, 2013 at 10:17 am

    Remember that young student from the HBCU that was at the center of the big North Carolina voter suppression case…he was running for city council and the GOP man tried to have him kicked off the ballot because him being a student didn’t qualify as residency.

    Last we checked in…he had won his case at the State Board of Elections in North Carolina, so the next stop was the election..

    HE WON the City Council Seat!!!

    Here’s the Maddow segment with the update on him.

    http://www.nbcnews.com/id/26315908/vp/53240479#53240501

    • 66 57andfemale
      October 10, 2013 at 11:44 am

      I saw a story yesterday about the local elections in NC. turnout was still dismal but DOUBLE what it was in 2010 and Dem’s won! They took back the School Board and a slew of local offices.

      I repeat: There is no tea party wave. Dem’s and indies are ceding their choice of government to a small sliver of loons. All we need to do is VOTE. Every election, no matter how small. In fact, the small elections set up candidates for higher office. They are immensely important.

  28. 67 desertflower
    October 10, 2013 at 10:18 am

    OK. I know how Jon Stewart gets under our skins sometimes….but this is PERFECT 🙂

    http://videocafe.crooksandliars.com/scarce/dont-fart-and-point-dog

  29. 68 Linda
    October 10, 2013 at 10:20 am

    The right is touting that AP/GFK poll showing the President at 37 %.

    AP/GFK came in LAST in accuracy in the 2012 cycle.

    http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/fordham-study-public-policy-polling-deemed-most-accurate-national-pollster-in-2012

  30. 70 amk for obama
    October 10, 2013 at 10:23 am

    Oklahoma has filed a similar lawsuit against the federal government. Several GOP-led states have taken alternative tactics to undermine reform, such as refusing to implement the law’s basic consumer protections like its ban on insurers denying coverage to Americans with pre-existing medical conditions. And many red states are successfully denying coverage to poor Americans by refusing to expand Medicaid under the health law.

    There is only way to stop these nutters. Vote against them. Repeatedly.

    • 71 99ts
      October 10, 2013 at 10:46 am

      That wonderful news source with its headlines on BJ – that no sane person would click – has a dozy “Oklahoma suit may end Obamacare”

  31. October 10, 2013 at 10:29 am

    The GOP seems to be concerned about leverage in the negotiations. Their leverage would have been the good will they could have brought to the table. But that was all shot to hell when their leadership reneged — multiple times — on agreements made in previous negotiations. The President and Democrats no longer have any confidence that they can negotiate in good faith. They no longer believe that the GOP has any concept of what “compromise” means.

    They were soooo certain that their refusal to “talk” and “negotiate” throughout the year would give them the leverage they wanted at this critical time. Once again, President Obama (and this time the Democrats) is not playing into their scheme. Americans can see the insincerity of the GOP when they now claim to want to talk when they have previously ignored numerous opportunities to do so. We can see their use of selective hearing along with their selective memory. They only seem to be focused on the President saying, “I will not negotiate…” without paying attention to the qualifiers — “until” [the government is re-opened and the debt ceiling has been increased] or “while” [a gun is being held to the heads of the American people.] We see that it comes down them saving face rather than what is good for this country.

  32. 73 utaustinliberal
    October 10, 2013 at 10:30 am

    Great Rise and Shine Chips.

    Loooooooooooooove this law.

  33. 76 amk for obama
    October 10, 2013 at 10:33 am

  34. 77 99ts
    October 10, 2013 at 10:40 am

    Slightly off topic – I just did a 260 mile return trip along our main east coast highway the past couple of days. It is a route I have been travelling for most of my life – and it has been under repair/being rebuilt for all of those years. It started as a gravel road (my first memory) and is currently being converted into 4/6 lanes – costing millions per mile. The 260 miles I travelled used to be about 301 miles 20 years ago – the massive earth moving/tunnel building, road straightening, town bypassing etc has taken 40 miles off the distance – quite amazing when I worked that out.

    This trip, however, seemed to have more roadworks than ever before – the roads full of construction workers and trucks. On some sideroads we saw up to 20 trucks waiting to get into one construction site. We stopped for a break and chatted to some of the workers – who had been employed non-stop for the past 5 years on this work.

    This is what should be happening in the US – this is what President Obama wants to do with the jobs bills. The roads we constructed in the 1950s/60s cannot handle the traffic of today – looking after the infrastructure of our world provides long term employment – many different types of work (the engineering needed in some of these roads/bridges is amazing to see). It is so frustrating that his foresight and policies have been trampled at every turn by those too dumb to even understand the harm they are doing – to everyone.

    • October 10, 2013 at 11:42 am

      You’re right, of course.

      The road and bridges inside our National Parks were mostly built by the CCC (FDR’s Civilian Conservation Corps) during the 1930s.

      Our Interstate highways were built in the 1960-70s.

      The state of other roads and bridges are up to the local jurisdictions, and unless you live in a state with a progressive and empathetic Governor (like my state of Calfornia), you’re pretty much out of luck.

  35. 79 Ladyhawke
    October 10, 2013 at 10:43 am

    Ana Marie Cox ‏@anamariecox 5m

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    It’s not a “plan,” or a “deal” if all you’re doing is *not killing the hostage immediately.*

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    Retweeted by LOLGOP

    • 81 99ts
      October 10, 2013 at 11:00 am

      RWNJ site – there are a couple of comments which describe the truth of the situation & they are receiving many down arrows from the GOP supporters. All posts on that site are rabid anti PBO.

    • October 10, 2013 at 11:46 am

      No nothing about the site, but the blog poster claims “her future was raped” because of high Obamacare premiums.

      She is conveniently 26 years old. The premiums she cites sound fishy to me. She must qualify for federal subsidies, but she’s probably too stupid to know they are available to her and too stupid to ask.

  36. October 10, 2013 at 10:51 am

    I gotta leave for a little while darn it but things are happening. BooMan is indicating that GOP will come up with short extension on debt limit. He says to check Robert Costa’s feed. House GOP in a meeting right now. Read his time line for details on what has happened. His latest tweet is below. Gotta go darn it!

    https://twitter.com/robertcostaNRO

    http://www.boomantribune.com/story/2013/10/10/101930/09
    The Anatomy of a Capitulation

    Robert Costa has his fingers on the pulse of the House Republicans. His twitter feed is a good place to look for the latest thinking on the Republican side of the aisle. What we can see is that the leadership is now exercising its will to avoid a default on our debts, and they are doing it as Treasury Secretary Jack Lew is testifying before the Senate Finance Committee…..

    • 85 99ts
      October 10, 2013 at 11:08 am

      Interesting tweets – it seems Boehner might recognize the disaster of the debt ceiling fail – but he probably doesn’t have a majority of his party agreeing with him – and he’s only suggesting 6 weeks! They really hate their country.

      • October 10, 2013 at 11:17 am

        They’re proposing a 6 week extension of the debt ceiling, but want to continue the shutdown.

        • 87 99ts
          October 10, 2013 at 11:21 am

          The Booman link above explains what will happen – Can but hope it is correct

          “The wingnuts are being told that they need to cave on the debt ceiling or Harry Reid will gain the initiative and dictate the terms. Their idea is that they can raise the debt limit for six weeks without passing a continuing resolution to open the government. But that’s bullshit. That’s just what the leadership is telling the mouth-breathers to force them to provide the votes they need to avoid default without having to ask Pelosi for support.

          Once the debt ceiling is raised for six weeks, the Democrats will just stare blankly at the Republicans until they open the government.”

          http://www.boomantribune.com/story/2013/10/10/101930/09

      • 88 idon
        October 10, 2013 at 11:42 am

        Y’all. Here’s what I don’t get. The GOP terrorists raise the debt ceiling. Good. But Seniors still can’t get paid because the phucking gov’t will not be OPEN to process payments. Geez!! is the GOP really that stupid? Help me here.

        • 89 99ts
          October 10, 2013 at 11:47 am

          Some within the GOP are that stupid. If you read the Booman piece – it really seems that Boehner recognizes the disaster in relation to the debt ceiling – but the RWNJs do not – this is Boehner’s solution – which will fail – and he will have to join with the dems to open govt & extend debt level (I hope ….)

  37. 90 amk for obama
    October 10, 2013 at 10:51 am

  38. 91 hopefruit2
    October 10, 2013 at 10:51 am

    Good. No 6-wk short term nonsense….

  39. 99 Ladyhawke
    October 10, 2013 at 10:52 am

    kara vallow ‏@teenagesleuth 5m

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    Tea Party governance. Tea Party default. Tea party recession. Tea party shutdown. Keep saying it until it sinks in, Luntz it to death.

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    Retweeted by LOLGOP

  40. 101 cookemom
    October 10, 2013 at 10:55 am

    Let me get this straight. Paul Ryan, the guy who couldn’t even carry his own district in the last election, is now in charge of all things that will save the day? Doesn’t he remember when he was invited to sit in the front row when PBO gave his budget info speech? Paul thought he was getting special treatment and respect, until PBO called him out for the idiot he is. Just because someone asks you to proceed, doesn’t mean you have to take them up on it. SMH

  41. 102 Ladyhawke
    October 10, 2013 at 11:04 am

    DEBT LIMIT HEARINGS RIGHT NOW ON CSPAN3

  42. October 10, 2013 at 11:04 am

    GM Village! Chips I sent you a DM last night……. if you get a moment check it out 🙂

  43. October 10, 2013 at 11:06 am

  44. 105 Alycee (@jazziz2)
    October 10, 2013 at 11:07 am

  45. 108 Linda
    October 10, 2013 at 11:12 am

    Looks like Boehner will be making a statement any minute.

    CNN has the camera ready. The podium has today’s latest hastag #Time4Solutions.

  46. 109 hopefruit2
    October 10, 2013 at 11:13 am

  47. 113 kathryn kivett
    October 10, 2013 at 11:19 am

    Good Morning all……You will never know how much I appreciate all the “news” that you talented people bring hee….I am unable to do the tech stuff so a big THANK YOU………..Am terrified that Dems and Rep are going to kick the can down the road and not lift shutdown…..

    • 114 kathryn kivett
      October 10, 2013 at 11:23 am

      that would be “”here””…TOD village…all you smart, talented, and informed people from all over this world.

  48. 115 hopefruit2
    October 10, 2013 at 11:26 am

  49. October 10, 2013 at 11:28 am

  50. 122 amk for obama
    October 10, 2013 at 11:38 am

  51. October 10, 2013 at 11:38 am

    THIS IS AN OBSCENE OBSTRUCTION:

  52. 124 Linda
    October 10, 2013 at 11:38 am

    Surrender, Dorothy ! And you little dog, Cantor , too.

  53. 125 Linda
    October 10, 2013 at 11:41 am

    Wolf Blizer loves this deal…….he just said the markets are already reacting…(before they vote )

    Please retire Wolf…you are not thinking clearly.

  54. 126 Ladyhawke
    October 10, 2013 at 11:43 am

    SENATOR ELIZABETH WARREN ASKING QUESTIONS NOW ON THE DEBT LIMIT ON CSPAN3

  55. 127 hopefruit2
    October 10, 2013 at 11:43 am

  56. 129 Ladyhawke
    October 10, 2013 at 11:56 am

    Senator Chuck Schumer asking questions now on DEBT CEILING. (CSPAN3)


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