A Tweet or Two




















And still my favorite quote through all this madness:


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152 Responses to “A Tweet or Two”

  1. 1 vcprezofan2
    October 7, 2013 at 1:19 pm


    • 2 vcprezofan2
      October 7, 2013 at 1:19 pm

      Talk about unexpected, and fumbling!

    • October 7, 2013 at 1:20 pm

      Woooooooooot, hello VC!

      • 5 vcprezofan2
        October 7, 2013 at 1:21 pm

        Running behind you is awfully tiring, you know! /plaintively/ Speak up, don’t you WANT us to follow all the links you provide?

        • October 7, 2013 at 1:25 pm

          If you can’t keep up with me VC, you really must be a:


          • 7 vcprezofan2
            October 7, 2013 at 1:31 pm

            A V-T-C, eh? At least this one looks pretty and healthy, with strong, sturdy leg(s).
            ‘VTC’ – I’ll get used to it eventually, I guess.

            Now that you are rested and all caught up with deadlines, I SUPPOSE I can tolerate your self-promotion as a fast mover. 🙄

      • 8 vcprezofan2
        October 7, 2013 at 1:23 pm

        I manages to get to the 3 buttons, feeling quite pleased that I’d explored all the links in R & S and was now ready to do the same there, when I stuck my head into twitter, and ….**POUF!**…there you are!

  2. October 7, 2013 at 1:25 pm

    I see VC made it through the door, quickly 🙂

    Thanks for the new thread and for including one of my tweets, Chips.

    As many of you know, I’m increasingly suspicious, as many of you are that Boehner is ‘incompetent’ or bumbling or anything other than leading a Koch funded Coup d’Etat.

    Underestimating an enemy is the surest way of getting clobbered.


    • 10 sherijr
      October 7, 2013 at 1:59 pm

      eggsackly what I was saying this weekend. Boehner is doing exactly what he wants.. yes the Koch’s are funding it- but Boehner is driving this bus, imo. He’s a lying , scheming nutball just like the rest of his whackos.

    • 11 idon
      October 7, 2013 at 4:10 pm

      Koch brothers prefer K*Kock brothers

  3. 12 Gazelle
    October 7, 2013 at 1:28 pm

    [Reposting from end of last thread. Comment over at the Plum. Yep, Raphael, you’re winning alright! Doofus!:

    1:16 PM EDT
    The logic of the GOP is breathtaking in its utter insanity. Obamacare is bad for the economy, so we are going to wreck the economy and trash your retirement accounts to save you from it.

    I mean, W T F Gop? W T F ?

    I live in Houston. My wife and I are typical middle class professionals, people who would normally vote for the GOP in saner times. But today, the GOP has forced 4,000 of my neighbors out of a job, and my wife’s business is now going down the toilet. Neither one of us will ever vote GOP again. Nobody needs this shtttt.


    • October 7, 2013 at 1:39 pm

      Why would this person have been voting for the GOP in normal circumstances – or “saner times”, as they called it? What have the GOP done for them in the last four decades, except feed them a story that is not supported by facts on the ground? They haven’t progressed the middle class. They haven’t improved the work force by improving education standards and providing ladders for success. They haven’t created additional disposable income by thwarting the gouging of Americans by greedy corporations. They haven’t increased international trade and created new markets. They haven’t improved the image of the US around the world.

      Why would any sane person vote for the GOP? And what does it say about this person that they only stop supporting the GOP when it affects them personally? The GOP have been harming the country for a long time.

      • 14 vcprezofan2
        October 7, 2013 at 2:16 pm

        ‘The GOP have been harming the country for a long time.’

        Yeah, yeah, but they never harmed *them* before his wife’s business started heading for the toilets. I know, you know, you answered your own questions. 😉

        A more selfish, self-centred bunch than diehard Repubs as a group, I have not encountered.

        • October 7, 2013 at 3:28 pm

          That’s exactly it, VC. If it doesn’t affect “me,” it doesn’t exist. That’s why they were Republican in the first place. When it starts touching them, well, heck, something has to be done.

          • 16 vcprezofan2
            October 7, 2013 at 6:23 pm

            ‘When it starts touching them, well, heck, something has to be done.’

            And given the way GOPs are bouncing around, it will touch more of them before this is over.

      • 17 Gazelle
        October 7, 2013 at 2:53 pm

        Right on, Theo! The Stupid is overwhelming. They couldn’t care less until something impacts them, then they miraculously wake up! Stoopid!

  4. October 7, 2013 at 1:30 pm

  5. 21 Gazelle
    October 7, 2013 at 1:35 pm

    [A comment at Plum …]:

    1:05 PM EDT
    As of today, healthcare.gov has had almost 8.5million unique visitors.

    They were expecting chunks of 50,000-60,000 visitors at a time. But that number is actually 250,000. The response has been so massive, and so much larger than the engineers anticipated that they will be closing the sign-up at off-peak hours over this coming weekend so the engineers can upgrade the site.



    • 22 theo67
      October 7, 2013 at 1:42 pm

      I heard someone on the radio this morning saying that the online game, “Grand Theft Auto” crashed for three days, and that millions of people who had pre-paid for online access to play the game were thwarted in their attempts. The person on the radio was wondering whether this means that the private industry is incompetent, and whether the company behind the game should shut down (they were being sarcastic).

      I wonder if Ann Lowery and her IT experts could comment on the architecture of the “Grand Theft Auto” game… Or if Jake Tapper can comment on the competence of the largest gaming company in the world…

  6. 23 Nena20409
    October 7, 2013 at 1:35 pm

    GA TOD and our Unbeatable Bts 😉

    Live at the Podium….the one and Only 😉 Jay “Clark Kent” Carney at the WH Press Briefings


  7. 24 Nena20409
    October 7, 2013 at 1:37 pm

    Congrats VC on your Gem…..Gold ❗

  8. 25 GGail
    October 7, 2013 at 1:38 pm

    I blinked and things changed on me 😯

  9. October 7, 2013 at 1:39 pm

  10. 34 Nena20409
    October 7, 2013 at 1:39 pm

    It is NOT the WH that issues at what $$$$$ amount that the Debt Ceiling is raised. I didn’t know that until today. It is the Job of Congress.

    ThanKs Jay for making that Point Clearly and repeatedly.

    • 35 theo67
      October 7, 2013 at 1:54 pm

      Chuck Todd looks like even more of an idiot. He was tweeting a bunch of nonsense this weekend about negotiations being needed in order for the House to know how much to raise the debt ceiling. He was rightfully skewered. Why is the country reliant on such a know-nothing bunch of fools, and how is Chuck Todd a political director, without knowing how the government works?

      • 36 HZ
        October 7, 2013 at 4:00 pm

        Theo67, you are so right. But remember Brian Williams thinks Chuckie Toddie is the best things since ice cream, and Chuck Toddie will continue to kiss Brian’s and the ‘big bosses’ asses until they along with the Teabaggers think that they can bring down this president.

        These are haters on President Barack H. Obama, and we will live through this hellish nightmare until POB leaves office. Rather they will try to make us live through this hellish nightmare. We will show these suckers in 2014, that this nation has a president with a backbone and supporters who voted for him in two elections to govern. We Will Prevail. HZ

      • 38 Nena20409
        October 7, 2013 at 8:18 pm

        And CTodd is the NBC Political director with less than a 2 yrs college education?

        He could not differentiate between Their and There…….NBC should be ashamed of themselves for having CTodd as the Chief Political Director.

  11. 39 utaustinliberal
    October 7, 2013 at 1:50 pm

  12. 40 utaustinliberal
    October 7, 2013 at 1:55 pm

  13. 41 Nena20409
    October 7, 2013 at 1:57 pm

    Dudette…..Lady this is for You 😉


    I love listening to Dr Neil Degrasse. He is so easy to understand.

  14. 42 Gazelle
    October 7, 2013 at 2:03 pm

    The Seditious Gang, coup plotters. Here are their names, no more hiding in dark corners (apologies, I don’t know how to do columns in WP) but these are full fanged creeps:

    Edwin Meese III
    Former Attorney General
    President Ronald Reagan

    Chris Chocola
    Club for Growth

    Jenny Beth Martin
    Tea Party Patriots

    Penny Nance
    Concerned Women for America

    The Honorable J. Kenneth Blackwell
    Constitutional Congress, Inc.

    William Wilson
    Americans for Limited Government

    Duane Parde
    National Taxpayers Union

    Susan Carleson
    American Civil Rights Union

    Andrea Lafferty
    Traditional Values Coalition

    Alfred S. Regnery
    The Paul Revere Project

    Lewis Uhler
    National Tax Limitation Committee

    Brent Bozell

    Matt Kibbe

    Marjorie Dannenfelser
    Susan B. Anthony List

    David Williams
    Taxpayers Protection Alliance

    The Honorable David McIntosh
    Former U.S. Representative

    David Bozell
    Executive Director

    Colin Hanna
    Let Freedom Ring

    Stuart Epperson
    Council for National Policy

    Heather Higgins
    Independent Women’s Forum

    Cindy Chafian
    The Mommy Lobby

    Gary Bauer
    American Values

    Mike Needham
    Heritage Action for America

    David Bossie
    Citizens United

    Mathew D. Staver
    Liberty Counsel Action

    James Martin
    60 Plus Association

    Erick Erickson

    T. Kenneth Cribb
    Former Domestic Advisor
    President Ronald Reagan

    Becky Norton Dunlop
    Former White House Advisor
    President Ronald Reagan

    Grace-Marie Turner
    The Galen Institutue

    Myron Ebell
    Freedom Action

    Craig Shirley
    Reagan Campaign Biographer

    Rev. Lou Sheldon
    Traditional Values Coalition

    Richard Rahn
    Inst. for Global Economic Growth

    Lee Beaman
    Nashville, TN

    Bob Reccord
    Executive Director
    Council for National Policy

    Angelo M. Codevilla
    Professor Emeritus
    Boston University

    Tom Donelson
    America’s PAC

    Brian Baker
    Ending Spending

    Kay R. Daly
    Coalition for a Fair Judiciary

    Don Devine
    Senior Scholar
    The Fund for American Studies

    Gary Aldrich
    Patrick Henry Center for Individual Liberty

    Ralph Benko
    Center for Civic Virtue

    Andresen Blom
    Senior Strategist
    Center for Civic Virtue

    Joe Gregory
    Gregory Management Co.

    Rebecca Hagelin

    By listing them all here, I hope I’m saving you from going to source, but here’s the link in case you want to do so: http://www.freedomworks.org/blog/ryanriebe/joint-letter-on-sequester-savings

    • 43 pkayden
      October 7, 2013 at 2:31 pm

      Traitors all.

    • 44 theo67
      October 7, 2013 at 3:37 pm

      What kind of fool has an organization called “Ending Spending”? And after the spending ends, then what? Does that include military spending, subsidies to billion dollar oil companies, subsidizing tax breaks for millionaires & billionaires? Because, if we just ended that spending, the deficit would be paid off in no time.

    • October 7, 2013 at 3:38 pm

      Wow, Gazelle, thanks for putting this in one place. Was interesting to see Ken Blackwell on this list. Bet he’s kicking himself he couldn’t steal Ohio’s votes for Romney this time.

    • 46 Nena20409
      October 7, 2013 at 8:20 pm

      They have done all these for what exactly? Pigmentation of the Current POTUS.

      They have been failing and they will continue to fail. They underestimate pres Obama and the Americans that want better for USA.

  15. 47 Nena20409
    October 7, 2013 at 2:06 pm


    Anyone who remembers the collapse of Lehman Brothers Holdings Inc. little more than five years ago knows what a global financial disaster is. A U.S. government default, just weeks away if Congress fails to raise the debt ceiling as it now threatens to do, will be an economic calamity like none the world has ever seen.

    Failure by the world’s largest borrower to pay its debt — unprecedented in modern history — will devastate stock markets from Brazil to Zurich, halt a $5 trillion lending mechanism for investors who rely on Treasuries, blow up borrowing costs for billions of people and companies, ravage the dollar and throw the U.S. and world economies into a recession that probably would become a depression. Among the dozens of money managers, economists, bankers, traders and former government officials interviewed for this story, few view a U.S. default as anything but a financial apocalypse.

    • October 7, 2013 at 2:15 pm

      • 49 Nena20409
        October 7, 2013 at 3:00 pm

        Brilliant. Thank You.

      • 50 nathkatun7
        October 7, 2013 at 7:18 pm

        Thanks Bob for all your tweets alerting the DOJ about people threatening to do great harm to this country. While you are it, you may want to remind the DOJ, Democratic leaders in Congress and of course WE the people, about Section 3, of the 14th Amendment which applies to a great many Republicans in Congress, including John Boehner, Eric Cantor and Mitch McConnell. Here is what Section 3 of the 14th Amendment says:

        “No person shall be a Senator or Representative in Congress, or elector of President and Vice-President, or hold any office, civil or military, under the United States, or under any state, who having previously taken an oath, as a member of Congress, or as an officer of the United Sates, or as a member of any state legislature, or as an executive or judicial officer of any state, to support the Constitution of the United States, shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof….”

        Personally, I think Ted Cruz, Mike Lee, and all the teabag members of Congress who have instigated the shut down the government and are refusing to honor their constitutional obligation to pay the debts of the United States, as is required by both Article I, Section 8, and Section 4, of the 14th Amendment, are engaged in insurrection and rebellion against the Constitution and should be thrown out of office. The same goes for Congressional leaders who are giving them “aid and comfort.”

  16. October 7, 2013 at 2:10 pm

    • 52 GGail
      October 7, 2013 at 4:01 pm

      Thanks Chips!
      While it’s good to read what POTUS sez, it’s even bettah when you can see and hear him!

  17. 53 Nena20409
    October 7, 2013 at 2:10 pm

    Wow….the DC/NY Pundits are easily convinced that Samantha Guthrie’s MTP could be the Savior of that show? Wow. I didn’t see her performance. However, I am familiar with her style of questioning……so I say, Please.


    • 54 57andfemale
      October 7, 2013 at 2:28 pm

      She was David Gregory, Jr., from what I hear. The same script. Accepted RW memes as ‘reasonable’. Skewered Jack Lew, let Republicans slide. Same old, same old.

      • 55 Nena20409
        October 7, 2013 at 2:33 pm

        I agree 1001%.

        No difference, just the same old right leaning apologists.

        • 56 joyfulmeme
          October 7, 2013 at 3:32 pm

          I have to disagree. She was tough on both (Lew & Paul). I can be on board with that. Much better interviewer than David Gregory. Now that could change if she got to do it often; but, I think she did well yesterday.

  18. 57 Nena20409
    October 7, 2013 at 2:16 pm

    The RWNJ Scott Walker, the gov of WI has now a Dem Challenger named; Mary Burke. I wish her the best.

  19. 62 japa21
    October 7, 2013 at 2:19 pm

    • 63 57andfemale
      October 7, 2013 at 2:29 pm

      They did it in 2008 and have done damn near everything in their power to continue the pain, if it will keep PBO from a ‘victory’.


  20. 64 hopefruit2
    October 7, 2013 at 2:19 pm

  21. 65 japa21
    October 7, 2013 at 2:22 pm

  22. 66 No Child Left Behind
    October 7, 2013 at 2:23 pm

    In response to VC who asked about my health status on the previous post, I am doing OK. Actually, tomorrow I will be admitted for a bone marrow transplant. I hope I’ll do fine. I plan to take my laptop with me to keep me sane and up-to-date on the “GOP Shutdown”.

    Thanks for asking and congratulations on your “being first” on this post.

  23. 75 vcprezofan2
    October 7, 2013 at 2:32 pm

    I appreciate your responding, NCLB. I wasn’t sure if you had already had the procedure. I definitely hope you will do fine too, and I promise to send special positive thoughts your way during the day tomorrow.

    {{{{NCLB}}}} May you be surrounded by calm, lots of family love, and by really experienced and loving caregivers!

    • 76 HZ
      October 7, 2013 at 4:12 pm

      ((((((((((((((((((((( NCLB, May you have the best of the best to care for you during this procedure. ))))))))))))))))))))))))))) I will keep you in my prayer/meditation times. HZ

  24. 78 hopefruit2
    October 7, 2013 at 2:37 pm

    • 79 Nena20409
      October 7, 2013 at 2:44 pm

      As Jodi Kantor would Chime…..Hmm? 🙂

      The main reason the RWNJs in US and DC are going bonkers. They Fear Success of ACA, aka, Obama Cares 😉

  25. 80 jacquelineoboomer
    October 7, 2013 at 2:53 pm

    Ha. John Harwood, just back from his recent interview of Pres. Obama, was clearly sprinkled with Obama dust during that event. His tweets are so pro-administration now, he’s bound to be fired from CNBC, if he keeps it up. And I laugh.

  26. 82 whatisworking
    October 7, 2013 at 2:54 pm

    Good Afternoon TOD family

    Been ages since I posted but I read and cheer all the post at this wonderful site.

    I have made a page that may help you relieve stress. it contains the names of the Republicans who have signaled they will vote for the CR and the names Dems who have not yet signed the discharge petition.

    Call them – relieve your stress. Share the page with others.

    I have listed the DC # and an address and phone for one of their local offices. I just called several and it felt great!!


  27. 88 Nena20409
    October 7, 2013 at 2:55 pm

    Wow….wow….wow….The Guardian? Hmm? 🙄 😯


    That “see footnote” is new. Apparently Hersh was not referring to the actual assassination of bin Laden, but the subsequent reports. Here’s the correction:

    Hersh has pointed out that he was in no way suggesting that Osama bin Laden was not killed in Pakistan, as reported, upon the president’s authority: he was saying that it was in the aftermath that the lying began.

    ///// it sure took them long enough to issue a correction/apology.

  28. 89 Nena20409
    October 7, 2013 at 2:59 pm

    Jay “Clark Kent” Carney’s 10-07-13 presser


  29. 90 japa21
    October 7, 2013 at 3:04 pm

  30. 91 Ladyhawke
    October 7, 2013 at 3:04 pm

    Far-Right Republicans Could Hit A Tipping Point As Support Falters

    By Ashley Alman


    Tension is brewing in the Republican Party as the federal government shutdown enters its seventh day and far-right members of the GOP show no sign of letting up.

    The shutdown — which has already affected hundreds of thousands of federal employees and hit critical government programs — is bringing the Republican Party to a boiling point, angering GOP fundraisers and throwing a wrench in the works for the upcoming 2014 elections.

    “People are totally annoyed,” one GOP fundraiser told the Washington Post.

    Backers of American Crossroads and Crossroads GPS — two influential Republican fundraising groups — attended a conference in Washington D.C. over the weekend. According to the Post, many attendees had similar concerns: they wanted to see the end of Obamacare just as much as the next conservative, but not at the cost of a government shutdown.



  31. 92 Ladyhawke
    October 7, 2013 at 3:08 pm

    Harry Reid quoting @juddlegum on Senate Floor

  32. 96 hopefruit2
    October 7, 2013 at 3:15 pm

  33. October 7, 2013 at 3:22 pm

    • 98 theo67
      October 7, 2013 at 3:33 pm

      I’m nervous that the Republicans who were initially willing to sign on to a Clean CR will now back down in order to save Boehner from the lie he told about there not being enough votes. They tend to stick together, these Republicans – even as they go over the cliff.

      • 99 Ladyhawke
        October 7, 2013 at 3:38 pm

        I hear ya theo67. I blame the moderates who are not speaking up just as much as the radicals who are making all of the noise. They are enabling and prolonging the dysfunction with their silence. If their oath of office meant anything, they would speak up. I don’t know how they sleep at night. It’s just pathetic.

      • 100 57andfemale
        October 7, 2013 at 3:40 pm

        One has already backed down.

        • 101 theo67
          October 7, 2013 at 3:43 pm

          They know that if the bill passes, then Boehner (and the Republicans) are toast. I expect more ‘yes’ promises to turn to ‘no’ soon. The GOP are fickle when it comes to keeping their promises to the American people, but loyal to the end to their GOP puppet-masters.

      • 105 pkayden
        October 7, 2013 at 4:11 pm

        What is the benefit to the Republicans if they take the American economy over the fiscal cliff? Wouldn’t it be better to vote for the clean CR and negotiate over the deficit in a more orderly fashion? I don’t understand what Republicans are getting out of holding the country hostage. They only win if President Obama and the Democratic members of Congress blink, which I don’t think will happen.

        • 106 theo67
          October 7, 2013 at 4:17 pm

          You’re trying to apply logic to this group and their illogical, depraved actions. I’ve already started hearing some of them say it won’t be so bad to default. They can’t/don’t think past the immediate moment of gratification. They’re incapable of assessing consequences to their actions, because – like George Bush – they lack the ability to be introspective. Nothing is ever their fault. They are never to blame for anything. For most people, they grow out of this behavior during their toddler years – at least by the time they enter kindergarten. For these tea partiers currently in Congress, and those who vote for them, they are immature little brats, who never learned how to be empathetic or play nicely with others. They are reckless and dangerous – and they don’t care if we go over the fiscal cliff.

  34. 107 vcprezofan2
    October 7, 2013 at 3:23 pm

    BBL – Have to go do that head scan I told you about recently – the one where they check to see if all my head/brain marbles are lined up ‘comme il faut’ VTC

    ps. If Chips or any other BT try to put up more than one thread before my return, you have my permission to ‘Occupy TODvillage’ and hold up the 2nd one. I plan to come straight back without stopping for shopping, so i should be long.

    • 108 GGail
      October 7, 2013 at 4:42 pm

      VC – you are in my thoughts and prayers. Let us know when you return.

      • 109 vcprezofan2
        October 7, 2013 at 6:29 pm

        TY, GGail, I’m back. Other than poking one vein to send a dye through for contrast, they really were only checking out my head space. They probably should just have asked you guys if it’s sound. 😉

  35. 110 japa21
    October 7, 2013 at 3:26 pm

  36. 111 Ladyhawke
    October 7, 2013 at 3:33 pm


    That Thing About Unions Being Waived from Obamacare? Another Whopper Lie.

    By Bob Cesca


    Appearing on Sunday’s This Week with George Stephanopoulos, Boehner did it again. The leader of the Republican Party lied about the Obamacare law. Boehner was asked about a previous remark in which he said he wouldn’t attach the de-funding of Obamacare to a continuing resolution. Deftly changing the subject, Boehner replied:
    So not only has Boehner been holding the government and the economy hostage by not calling a vote on a clean continuing resolution in spite of the fact that there are reportedly enough votes to pass it, but he’s also been repeatedly lying about the Obamacare law at the center of the budget fracas. At this point, even Republicans ought to be seriously questioning Boehner’s ability to function as an effective speaker. The GOP needs a moderate at the helm who isn’t beholden to the deceitful and radical politics of the tea party caucus. That person definitely isn’t Mr. Boehner, whose mendacity and political extremism is off the charts these days.


    Read the full post here …….


  37. October 7, 2013 at 3:46 pm

  38. 114 yardarm756
    October 7, 2013 at 3:46 pm

    This is serious. Expand the thought.

    • October 7, 2013 at 4:13 pm

      Secty Defense found a way for personnel who provide moral support for troops are eligible to be deemed ‘essential’. Therefore something like 300,000 workers will be back on the job. I’m guessing the person in charge of TP in the latrines is probably the first person on the list to return, that is, after the person who cleans them.

      how’s it going mate

      • 116 yardarm756
        October 7, 2013 at 5:05 pm

        Okay cookemom. I just got home from some vascular testing at the hospital and am happy to say I dodged a bullet.
        While the TP thing is funny, I once witnessed fleet operations in the Pacific come to a halt when an aircraft carrier(5000 ppl) ran out of ‘paper’ in the middle of the ocean. The chain reaction was unbelievable. Pilots couldn’t fly, underwear disappeared, and weapons systems couldn’t be cleaned because cleaning rags came up missing.
        Unwiped asses can create a lot of problems(GOP). 🙂

  39. October 7, 2013 at 3:47 pm

    GA Chips, TOD….. hope the village is holding up well 🙂

  40. 118 Gazelle
    October 7, 2013 at 3:48 pm

    [GOPer Clowns! LOL! Hahahahaha! That last sentence gave me stiches! From Univision]:

    It’s been almost a year since Mitt Romney lost seven in ten Hispanic voters to President Obama, sparking Republicans to try and improve the party’s poor reputation with Hispanics. Yet, the GOP has little to show that its “re-brand” is working.

    On Monday, the Republican National Committee (RNC) announced that it hired “Hispanic engagement staff” in seven states; California, Texas, Florida, New Jersey, New Mexico, Pennsylvania and Virginia. Chairman Reince Priebus called the hires “unprecedented” moves that “will ensure our message of ‘opportunity for all’ reaches voters.”

    The moves are the latest in a string of listening sessions and candidate outreach efforts that Republicans have used to show they’re serious about attracting Hispanics. But Hispanic voters appear as alienated by the GOP as ever. […..]


    • October 7, 2013 at 4:40 pm

      Gazelle, this “unprecedented” move is a joke. Republicans continue to believe that Hispanic voters are stupid and are waiting around for some Republican idiot to speak to them about “opportunity,” even while the party itself fails to address the immigration issue and publicly demeans Hispanics on daily basis. The vast majority of Latinos are smart enough to know when they’re being conned and this has the stink of ‘con’ all over it.

  41. 122 japa21
    October 7, 2013 at 3:55 pm

    • October 7, 2013 at 4:32 pm

      Last two paragraphs are very important:

      “But the bigger point is this: Section 4 of the 14th Amendment exists, and it is all about trying to ban precisely what’s going on right now. The only question is how it applies. And even that uncertainty tells us something very important about the gravity of the crisis we are facing today. The reason we have so few precedents to guide us in applying Section 4 is that, by and large, the provision comes into play only when a critical mass of members of Congress are willing to see grievous harm come to our nation if their demands aren’t met — demands that cannot be achieved through ordinary democratic processes. That’s a situation that we really haven’t faced since Civil War Reconstruction, when formerly hostile, armed insurgents were being reintegrated into the Union and, therefore, into Congress.

      The President is not the only one who has sworn an oath to uphold the Constitution. Members of Congress, too, have an obligation to support and defend it — including Section 4. The House members currently using the prospect of debt-default as a bargaining chip — whether to delay implementation of the Affordable Care Act or to achieve any other goal — are betraying the Constitution, and the President is correct to draw a line in the sand and refuse to legitimize this abuse or incentivize its recurrence. He deserves immediate, full-throated, bipartisan support for putting an end to this constitutionally forbidden tactic once and for all.”

      Which is why all of us are doing whatever we can to drive the message – Boehner, by even allowing a threat of default to be uttered in the House, is in gross violation of the Constitution. The act of default would be as violent a form of ‘force’ as one can imagine short of nuking the country, and, thus, sedition is relevant.

  42. 124 Jovie
    October 7, 2013 at 4:00 pm

    This is Cool!

    • 125 hopefruit2
      October 7, 2013 at 4:04 pm

      If this is true, I agree with the comment made by this person.

      • 126 pkayden
        October 7, 2013 at 4:12 pm

        Yes unfortunately, this feeds into the T’Baggers’ argument that aid to the poor should come from private citizens rather than from the government.

        • 127 hopefruit2
          October 7, 2013 at 4:20 pm

          And it gets the GOP congressmen off the hook to vote to pass a clean CR budget.

          I would wager my annual salary that this so-called “good Samaritan” is a Republican corporate sponsor who would throw a fit if he/she had to pay $10 million in higher taxes to benefit those SAME families on education, healthcare, clean air technology, etc.

    • October 7, 2013 at 4:11 pm

      The problem with it being funded by a private donor is that it feeds into the meme of the GOP that it should be funded privately instead of by the government. It could even be funded by opposition for short time to avoid GOP criticisms.

      • 129 hopefruit2
        October 7, 2013 at 4:23 pm

        That’s my thinking exactly. Likely came from a Republican to get the GOP in congress off the hook…this is no different from the GOP’s piecemeal funding of select programs and not others, and I smell a HUGE RAT here….

    • 130 GGail
      October 7, 2013 at 4:45 pm

      Good News – thanks Jovie !

  43. 131 Linda
    October 7, 2013 at 4:21 pm

    MORGAN STANLEY ECONOMIST: If We Breach The Debt Ceiling, Jack Lew Must Decide Which Law To Break

    If the Treasury is unwilling to stretch the definition of extraordinary measures, on the day that the Federal Reserve predicts that the Treasury will run out of cash in its account and the Treasury is bound by the debt ceiling, it suspends all payments and awaits instructions from the Treasury. As a result, the government’s principal economic officials will face the prospect of violating one of these three laws:

    1. The Second Liberty Bond Act of 1917 that establishes the debt ceiling;

    2. The Federal Reserve Act that prohibits the Fed from lending directly to the Treasury; or,

    3. The 14th Amendment of the Constitution that holds that the debt of the United States government, lawfully issued, will not be questioned.

    Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/morgan-stanley-economist-if-we-breach-the-debt-ceiling-jack-lew-must-decide-which-law-to-break-2013-10#ixzz2h4NYJRoG

    • 132 nospin
      October 7, 2013 at 4:27 pm

      Congress should do their jobs. No one else should do a thing.

    • 133 jziglar
      October 7, 2013 at 4:35 pm

      I think that if it comes to it the President should use executive action in order to stop a default. At the end of the day it’s about saving the country and the republicans can try impeachment but it won’t go anywhere since the Democrats control the senate, and they would need 2/3 support.

      • 134 57andfemale
        October 7, 2013 at 4:52 pm

        They would impeach. This is all part of the trap to get him to do any one of the three things listed.

        It doesn’t mean PBO would lose the impeachment trial. But it would be House that would demand that impeachment proceedings go forward. The Senate doesn’t vote on that. They hold the ‘trial’.

        Part of this is to orchestrate PBO into a corner where he must take ‘extra-constitutional authority’ to fix the situation. Then they would impeach.

        • 135 jziglar
          October 7, 2013 at 5:08 pm

          I agree. This could be part of their plan since they did the same to Clinton.

          • 136 57andfemale
            October 7, 2013 at 5:30 pm

            The difference, of course, is that Clinton’s transgressions were personal, and his alone. Yes, the witch hunt was in full force, but let’s face it – he gave them the ammunition.

            The issue of a POTUS trying to save the country from the actions of loons in Congress – that’s another matter. Unfortunately, they are so much loonier than they were 15 years ago. There is no doubt that if he took any ‘extra-constitutional’ action, they would impeach. Of course, they are taking ‘extra-constitutional action’ by threatening U.S. ruin unless a duly elected Democratic President doesn’t act like the loons in the tea party.

    • October 7, 2013 at 4:49 pm

      Linda, not to be dim-witted, but the first sentence begins, “If the Treasury is unwilling to stretch the definition of extraordinary measures.” Do you know what that means? Does the Treasury have the power to take extraordinary measures? And if, so under what circumstances?

    • 138 theo67
      October 7, 2013 at 6:43 pm

      Why will the Treasury have to break a law. Looks like if the country defaults, then Congress will already have violated the 14th Amendment.

  44. 139 hopefruit2
    October 7, 2013 at 4:23 pm

  45. 140 Claire
    October 7, 2013 at 4:23 pm

    I’m not on twitter, however I hope he gets a zillion tweets telling him to HOLD A VOTE NOW! I agree with the POTUS, he should hold the vote and see what happens. One man is holding the entire country hostage. There should be protests with signs demanding that he hold a vote now. I did send his office an email message. I am going to call and call his office. I am sick of boehner having so much control.

    • 141 hopefruit2
      October 7, 2013 at 4:30 pm

      Well now you have wealthy donors paying off agencies (e.g., Headstart) to help the GOP retain their stubbornness.

  46. 142 hopefruit2
    October 7, 2013 at 4:26 pm

    Go SOS Kerry! 🙂

  47. 146 hopefruit2
    October 7, 2013 at 4:32 pm

  48. 147 hopefruit2
    October 7, 2013 at 4:36 pm

  49. 148 lamh36
    October 7, 2013 at 4:45 pm

    Evening peeps.

    Every so often, I tweet at work. If not, then I wait until I get home. But sometimes ya just gotta let people know upfront:

  50. 150 hopefruit2
    October 7, 2013 at 4:48 pm


  51. October 7, 2013 at 4:55 pm

  52. 152 Linda
    October 7, 2013 at 5:02 pm

    I’ve got it! Boehner’s strategic adviser is Rod Blagojevich – “I’ve got this thing and it’s f*****g golden, and, uh, uh, I’m just not giving it up for f***in’ noth­ing. I’m not gonna do it. And, and I can always use it.”

    comment stolen from HP

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