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President Obama and VP Biden visit Taylor Gourmet for lunch, Oct 4

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  1. 1 Bill R.
    October 5, 2013 at 3:34 pm

    Buon Giorno!

  2. 4 Bill R.
    October 5, 2013 at 3:35 pm

    • October 5, 2013 at 4:06 pm

      Bill, one of the best lines in this article is “they only listen to half of what he said.” Republicans don’t listen at all. They hear what they want to hear and presume what they want to presume. To actually listen to the president, they’d have to respect him, which they do not. They stuck themselves in this hole and the president isn’t going to throw them a lifeline, no matter how hard they stamp their feet and call him names.

      • October 5, 2013 at 5:09 pm

        You know, one of my realisms in life based on those I know is : People in general are terrible listeners. Many people just listen for a few minutes then assume the rest of what will be said then come away with their own perception. They usually do not even let the person talking finish what they say before interrupting and arguing their own point. When reading they just read the headings or first paragraph before summarizing the rest to match their own beliefs in their own mind. That is why the GOP talking points work. That is why the misleading headlines of the MSM can give an entirely different twist on the truth and the details are hidden further in the article. Also a lot of people form their own stories based on their own life experiences. Greed and selfishness are more naturally gravitated towards than sharing and compassion are. People take what they hear or what they think they heard and use that towards reinforcing their own beliefs. Given these perceptions you can see why even religious people can reinterpret the Bible and it’s teachings. It also explains why a lot of older people have a hard time with change and become cynics. Being open to new ideas is not as natural as becoming closed minded. These are all my own opinions based on trying to wrestle with why there are so many uninformed, yet stubborn, cynical people that I deal with in my own life.

    • 9 globalcitizenlinda
      October 5, 2013 at 4:18 pm

      PBO already said: elected officials need to earn their respect by serving the people

  3. 10 Bill R.
    October 5, 2013 at 3:36 pm

  4. 12 vcprezofan2
    October 5, 2013 at 3:36 pm

    Helloooo! Hello!

  5. 24 Melissa
    October 5, 2013 at 3:41 pm

    I hope President Obama doesn’t give an inch to those hostage takers. Not one iota. The optics are looking terrible for them. I say let the rat drowns in the ocean of their own making.

  6. 25 Bill R.
    October 5, 2013 at 3:44 pm

    • October 5, 2013 at 4:11 pm

      DF, that judge deserves a bouquet or a great bottle of wine. The only thing that would have been better is if he had actually taken Issa’s face and rubbed it in his request for priority treatment.

  7. 33 dotster3
    October 5, 2013 at 4:06 pm

    Isn’t this despicable? R.I. Repub Party is planning to raise money by auctioning off an AR-15 assault rifle—(same gun in the Sandy Hook massacre—at their family day fundraiser—–food, fun, prizes and guns! Yay! What’s wrong with these people? They must be missing some key brain cell, a decency, common sense brain cell.


  8. October 5, 2013 at 4:11 pm

    • 36 globalcitizenlinda
      October 5, 2013 at 4:54 pm

      turn up looks good and would probably have been better if the GOPshutdown did not focus the minds on budget battles

  9. 37 a4alice
    October 5, 2013 at 4:25 pm

    this is from an article that DF noted a post or two back

  10. 40 lockewasright
    October 5, 2013 at 4:26 pm

    I think, once the House teahadists have had anout pressure form the corporate greedhead wing of the GOP and from the public in general that they pass a clean bill, the senate should increase funding for SNAP, pass it and send it back.

  11. 48 hopefruit2
    October 5, 2013 at 4:40 pm

  12. 58 desertflower
    October 5, 2013 at 4:49 pm

    I think we should have them unleash this thing in the halls of the DO NOTHING BUT HARM Congress! Put TEETH on this badboy!

  13. 71 desertflower
    October 5, 2013 at 4:54 pm

    Words of yet ANOTHER selfish ass. http://bobcesca.thedailybanter.com/blog-archives/2013/10/the-bottom-line-part-2.html

    Who else is adamant about keeping their paycheck? Representative Lee Terry (R-NE).

    When asked if he would keep his paycheck, he said “dang straight.” And that’s not all.

    What about the other members who were donating or forgoing their pay?

    “Whatever gets them good press,” Terry said. “That’s all that it’s going to be. God bless them. But you know what? I’ve got a nice house and a kid in college, and I’ll tell you we cannot handle it. Giving our paycheck away when you still worked and earned it? That’s just not going to fly.”

    Oh. Well, shit. He worked and he earned it. He has a nice house and a kid in college. Giving up his paycheck voluntarily isn’t going to fly.

    I suppose the federal employees that Rep. Lee Terry and his colleagues have put out of a job or out of pay didn’t earn it. And I’m sure none of them have homes or kids in school either, right? They aren’t real people and those aren’t real jobs.

  14. 72 hopefruit2
    October 5, 2013 at 4:59 pm

  15. 73 desertflower
    October 5, 2013 at 5:03 pm

    More Jan Brewer follies!


    Open the park, but let poor people starve. In her “mind”… that’s fair.

  16. 74 a4alice
    October 5, 2013 at 5:05 pm

    Isn’t this interesting? I saw this from the last thread – Meta found this man who figured out which dems didn’t sign the letter demanding a clean CR.

    They figured out that there was one missing (GOOD JOB META!) and so he found the missing person and added his name;

    I figured that if these guys are anyone’s congress critters they could call or tweet them.

    • October 5, 2013 at 5:08 pm

      Oooohhh, thank you, a4alice!

      @repjimcooper (Tennessee)

      • October 5, 2013 at 5:11 pm

        If we have 195 who signed the petition or consented to sign the petition, then we need 23 more votes.
        There are 21 Rs saying they support a clean CR but that doesn’t mean they’ll join the petition.
        This will be a tough one.

        • 77 a4alice
          October 5, 2013 at 5:16 pm

          Hmmm. So that means that some of these 5 have to cross over or there needs to be some republicans who will join

        • 78 globalcitizenlinda
          October 5, 2013 at 5:18 pm

          but at least their lack of signing will be on record – they say one thing but can’t stand up when they have to vote (commercials for 2014)

          remember the longer-term picture of targeting the more vulnerable “moderate” republican”

        • October 5, 2013 at 5:42 pm

          I wonder if when Miller said they had people who would sign, he took into consideration (or knew about ) these 5 who didn’t sign. Does that mean these 5 won’t sign or that they haven’t signed as of yet?

          • October 5, 2013 at 5:57 pm

            Rep Miller was referring to signatures on the Discharge Petition, not this letter. He is as disciplined a whip as is Steny Hoyer and Leader Pelosi so my expectation is that, given how strongly the President, Senator Reid & Leader Pelosi have been regarding ‘having the votes’ they know they have at least 218 and probably more, irrespective of these 5 signing/voting for the clean CR. I’ve been incorrect before, but think this assessment is consistent with what we’ve been hearing for more than a week – the votes are there no matter what it takes to get the Senate bill to the floor.

        • 85 nathkatun7
          October 5, 2013 at 9:42 pm

          It certainly looks tough, Meta, if these renegade Democrats don’t change their minds. Even if all 21 Rs who support a clean CR sign that’s not enough to constitute a majority required to file a successful discharge petition.

    • 86 theo67
      October 5, 2013 at 6:09 pm

      GOP can’t be let off the hook for ensuring a functioning government. Yes, these five Dems didn’t sign the CR letter, but how many GOP didn’t sign it? We can’t hold Democrats to a higher level of accountability than the GOP. While these give Dems must answer for their decision not to push for a clean CR, we can’t be distracted from the fact that the GOP caused the shutdown and are refusing the re-open the government.

      • 87 cookemom
        October 5, 2013 at 6:36 pm

        yep, so true. for whatever reasons that they didn’t sign on, we shouldn’t attack them from the left. We attack the opposing party always. I’m sure Nancy P knows who she needs and has no doubt excused them. Unlike pubs, we aren’t about the primary as much as we are the national numbers we need.

      • 88 a4alice
        October 5, 2013 at 6:56 pm

        Theo you’re right – those Republican (especially these 32 in this article: http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2013/10/32-republicans-who-caused-the-government-shutdown/280236/ ) need to get harangued as much as possible. Boehner and Cantor the most. But having said that, I am curious as to why these 5 Dems chose not to sign with their compatriots. If I lived in their district I’d ask them. And then, I’d tell them how disappointed I was with them and would politely urge them to sign and support Pelosi and their fellows.

        But, I do agree Theo that the focus is on these Republicans holding the country hostage.

  17. 89 globalcitizenlinda
    October 5, 2013 at 5:13 pm

    has the NY Times article been revised?

    article now indicates that one The Navy SEAL Team attacked the al-Shabab stronghold in Somalia, killed some one but it is not clear if it is the leader they wanted to capture.

    expecting an more complete report later

    • October 5, 2013 at 5:18 pm

      Linda – this is how the NYTimes has revised the earlier story – as of 1715 ET:

      “The Shabab leader was believed to have been killed in the firefight, but the SEALS were forced to withdraw before that could be confirmed, a senior American official said.”

      And, in that version they do not make any note of their earlier claim that the leader had been captured. Just changed the text.

      • 91 globalcitizenlinda
        October 5, 2013 at 5:23 pm

        okay. thanks!

        if he is alive (The Guardian Claimed earlier that he was Chechen) we will know.

        at least in both reports, there is confirmation that someone was killed “by a foreign team that fought for about an hour”

        clearly, PBO can multi-task ( or as you say fight terrorists foreign and domestic)

  18. October 5, 2013 at 5:21 pm

    Here’s video of Navy SEALs operation against Al-Shabaab

    • 94 globalcitizenlinda
      October 5, 2013 at 5:35 pm

      hope the al-Shabab terrorists did not fool themselves into thinking that a GOPshutdown means that ALL of the US military & intelligence is also shutdown

  19. October 5, 2013 at 5:27 pm

    Howdy all you O’s!!!! What a great getting up day again at 1600 TODdyvania Ave!!!!

    It’s storming quite a bit in my neck of the woods, but it feels almost tropical. If it weren’t for the lightning, I’d be out there singing in the rain.

  20. 96 a4alice
    October 5, 2013 at 5:32 pm

    Here is a tweet in response to the article that Arapaho had posted upthread. It’s this kind of backward thinking from the likes of Yoho that must be stopped. I hope that OFA in Florida picks this up or at other Floridians will tweet this complete and utter fool.

  21. 100 Nena20409
    October 5, 2013 at 5:44 pm

    More, More….In Libya…..NYT is saying……


    CAIRO — A man suspected of being a leader of Al Qaeda and having a role in planning the bombings of the United States Embassies in Kenya and Tanzania in 1998 was seized from the streets of Tripoli on Saturday by a team of armed men, officials familiar with the situation said.

    The suspect, born Nazih Abd al Hamid al-Ruqhay and known by his nom de guerre Abu Anas el-Liby, has been high on the list of the United States government’s most-wanted fugitives since at least 2000, when a New York court indicted him for his part in planning the embassy attacks. The F.B.I. had offered a bounty of up to $5 million for information leading to his capture.

  22. 102 globalcitizenlinda
    October 5, 2013 at 5:52 pm

  23. 103 desertflower
    October 5, 2013 at 6:30 pm

    Whoa!! Congressman McDermott wins the intertubes!!!! 🙂

    “This mess was created by the Republicans for one purpose, and they lost. People in my district are calling in for Obamacare — affordable health care — in large numbers. These guys have lost, and they can’t figure out how to admit it… So we sit here until they figure out they fuckin’ lost.”

    — Rep. Jim McDermott (D-WA), quoted by Slate, on when the government shutdown will end.

  24. 107 desertflower
    October 5, 2013 at 6:34 pm

    Maybe THIS guy wins the intertubes!!!

    Dem rep throws the “unpatriotic” meme back in Republicans’ faces

    Former Army National Guard general and Rep. Bill Enyart (D-Ill.) ripped into his GOP colleagues on Thursday, accusing them of being disingenuous in their efforts to pass a bill that would restore funding only for select military personnel payments that are currently in jeopardy due to the ongoing government shutdown.

    In a speech from the House floor, Enyart, a freshman and 35-year military veteran, blasted the “absolute, utter cynicism” of the “Honoring Our Promise to America’s Veterans Act,” which later passed a House vote with Democratic support. Senate Democrats have insisted that they won’t support a piecemeal approach to dampening the blow of the shutdown, instead calling for Republicans in the House to pass a clean government funding bill to reopen the government in its entirety.

    “The only thing that bill does is give the politicians who sponsored it and who vote for it a claim while they wrap themselves in the flag to say they support the troops,” Enyart said, pointing out that the underlying bill actually contained cuts to key veterans programs. “It’s as phony as putting a flag pin on your lapel and claiming that makes you a patriot.”


    • October 5, 2013 at 6:41 pm

      I’ve been busy preparing to follow my daughter on her assignment to Sembach, Germany. I was so excited because I love Germany and Sembach is only 4 hours from Paris. Yesterday, because of sequestration, all orders were canceled. So you know I totally agree with Rep. Enyart.

  25. 109 hopefruit2
    October 5, 2013 at 6:35 pm

    So that’s two – apparently.

  26. 121 dotster3
    October 5, 2013 at 6:39 pm

    Reminding that 19,000 Head Start kids—–so far—-are affected by the shutdown as many are forced to shut down. This interview makes clear that the parents of these kids are left in the lurch—-many work or are in school—-and depend on Head Start for the quality care it provides their children. And it’s not like they can afford to just hire a nanny in the meantime. My daughter said she heard one parent say she didn’t know what to do, didn’t want to lose her job, may be forced to take her kids to their grandma in N.Y. until this is settled. These parents are also grateful for and dependent on the 2 nutritious meals that their kids get at Head Start daily—-breakfast and lunch. The first school closings are those whose funding is on the Oct. 1 schedule. More will be affected the longer this goes on. Shutdown effects spread far and wide, making life miserable and impossible in many cases.


  27. 122 hopefruit2
    October 5, 2013 at 6:40 pm

  28. 124 pickle48
    October 5, 2013 at 6:43 pm

    I have contacted the office of MY representative, Ron Kind, and posted on his Facebook page….. 😉

  29. 126 utaustinliberal
    October 5, 2013 at 6:44 pm

    Wow…..Pres. Obama does not play.

  30. October 5, 2013 at 6:52 pm

    CAVEAT >>> #FogOfWar

    Really important just now …. until we have official word, both of these AQ dudes could either both be dead, alive or 1 dead the other alive, etc.

  31. 130 desertflower
    October 5, 2013 at 6:54 pm



  32. 134 desertflower
    October 5, 2013 at 6:59 pm


    Looking back at the last three years since the Republicans took control of the House of Representatives, Hersh crunched the numbers and came to a shocking conclusion. If Republicans hadn’t forced austerity economics on the American people, unemployment for the month of September would be south of 6 percent with a net gain of around 250,000 new jobs being created. Starting with December of 2010, the month after a Republican landslide in the midterm elections, there would have been 2.4 million additional jobs added to the economy, bringing the total to 8.2 million.

    Hersh continues to explain the dramatic difference in economic policy and how much stronger the recovery would have been had the Republicans not had such a successful election in 2010.

  33. October 5, 2013 at 7:00 pm

    Seeing lots of tweets like this …


  34. October 5, 2013 at 7:00 pm

    POTUS is just a remarkable leader! That’s all!

  35. 150 desertflower
    October 5, 2013 at 7:07 pm


    CAIRO — United States forces captured a leader of Al Qaeda indicted in the 1998 bombings of the United States embassies in Kenya and Tanzania, ending a 15-year manhunt by seizing him in broad daylight near the Libyan capital, American officials said.

    The suspect, born Nazih Abd al Hamid al-Ruqhay and known by his nom de guerre, Abu Anas el-Liby, has been high on the list of the United States government’s most-wanted fugitives since at least 2000, when a New York court indicted him for his part in planning the embassy attacks. The F.B.I. had offered a bounty of up to $5 million for information leading to his capture.

    Abu Anas was captured alive near Tripoli in a joint operation by the United States military, the C.I.A. and the F.B.I., and was in American custody, a United States official said.

    His capture was the latest grave blow to what remains of the original Qaeda organization after a 12-year-old American campaign to capture or kill its leadership, including the killing two years ago of its founder, Osama Bin Laden, in a compound in Pakistan

  36. 151 desertflower
    October 5, 2013 at 7:20 pm

    Oh look!! GOOD GOVT!!!

    Jeff Gauvin ‏@JeffersonObama 6m
    Libya Al Qaeda operation today was not just a SEALS operation, but CIA, FBI as well.

    • 152 vcprezofan2
      October 5, 2013 at 7:27 pm

      Hey, DF, you back to eating whatever you feel like yet?

      • 153 desertflower
        October 5, 2013 at 7:36 pm

        I wish! 🙂 Getting better every day, but this side was the worse one. Spit hurts, hot, cold room temp…no chips, no meat that I have to chew…I sucked on roasted chicken last night….I want prime rib! 🙂 To think I was a vegetarian for 12 years….. thanks for asking, vc….I CAN have those cheezy puffs, though:)

        • 154 vcprezofan2
          October 5, 2013 at 7:40 pm

          Chips hasn’t arrived to pick them up yet, but I’m sure she will share with you ….er…I think. 😉

        • October 5, 2013 at 7:42 pm

          I haven’t managed to keep up over the last few days, but I had a tooth extracted (a molar) that couldn’t be saved. It’s been soup and pain pills. So, although I don’t know exactly what happened to you, I feel your pain 😦

          • 156 desertflower
            October 5, 2013 at 7:57 pm

            I had laser surgery on my mouth for periodontal disease. Better than cutting my gums with a scapel, but not too fun. Can’t chew more than soft foods….no spicy foods that I love…no anything I have to chew. Keeping my girlish figure though:) The surgery itself didn’t hurt, but the “after surgery” isn’t the most fun. However, that said…I can still have my gin and tonics!! I think I will….. Hope YOU feel better soon!

    • 157 globalcitizenlinda
      October 5, 2013 at 8:14 pm


  37. October 5, 2013 at 7:25 pm

  38. 163 desertflower
    October 5, 2013 at 7:27 pm


    Wicked weather dominated much of the American Midwest and westward on Friday.
    A tornado laden storm shocked the people of Wayne, Nebraska, as afternoon turned to evening.
    The National Weather Service reported Saturday, based on a preliminary assessment, that the Wayne twister produced EF-4 damage — which means it likely carried gusts of between 166 and 200 mph.
    A few people sustained minor injuries, but luckily no one was killed, said mayor Ken Chamberlain.
    The storm produced one or several tornadoes, officials said, that touched down in five spots.

    Who was that RW rep from Nebraska that hates gov??? So glad that everyone is ok. Watch to see if he starts asking for $$$ for HIS district.

  39. 164 desertflower
    October 5, 2013 at 7:40 pm


    Steve Dowdy ‏@Steverocks35 9m
    @JeffersonObama Ironic, yesterday was 20th anniversary of Black Hawk Down in Mogadishu
    Retweeted by Jeff Gauvin

  40. October 5, 2013 at 7:48 pm

    Great tweet!!!


    btw, #Teabaggers & Greenwald #emotarians are going completely nuts on the twit machine

  41. October 5, 2013 at 7:50 pm

    This is really a very small matter, but sometimes we forget (or at least I do) all that the government does to benefit us. I’ve been getting some of those very annoying 1-800 calls over the last week. I’m on the “Do Not Call” list so I decided to lodge a complaint. I went to the “Do Not Call” web site and there was message that read, in essence, sorry we can’t help do the government shutdown. So this shutdown is causing small inconveniences and some very serious problems for a lot of people.

    • 168 theo67
      October 5, 2013 at 7:55 pm

      I saw a tweet from an idiot saying that he would be fine sending 50% of federal workers home permanently. He clearly is a person who speaks without knowing the subject matter, because he’s got no idea what the government actually does for him on a daily basis, or the fact that the private industry who would have to pick up the slack would do it for a much higher cost. Clueless.

  42. October 5, 2013 at 7:50 pm

  43. 170 Allison
    October 5, 2013 at 7:52 pm

  44. October 5, 2013 at 7:55 pm

    That #FogOfWar thing ….

    So, as noted a few times above, until we receive official word from the WH or Pentagon we should remain skeptical of reports on the Somalia operation, for sure.

  45. 179 desertflower
    October 5, 2013 at 8:06 pm


    Rep. Peter King, who called fellow Republican Ted Cruz a ‘fraud,’ said his office is now receiving threatening phone calls from people who say they’re supporters of the Texas senator.

    “You can’t always blame a person if his followers act in a terrible way,” King said on CNN’s “The Situation Room with Wolf Blitzer.” However, he expressed concern about the “vile, obscene” nature of the phone calls.

    “I have young women, women interns, full-timers, in their late teens, early 20s, and they get these phone calls,” he continued. He did not elaborate on how many calls were received.

    Stay classy, Baggers.

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