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  1. 1 Ladyhawke
    October 4, 2013 at 11:16 am

    NOW WHAT DO WE DO? WHAT’S YOUR END GAME RAFAEL??

    Ted Cruz’s Fifteen Minutes are Ticking Away. Quickly.

    by Bob Cesca

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    Sen. Ted Cruz (R-TX) is on the receiving end of some appropriate poop flinging inside his caucus:

    Ted Cruz faced a barrage of hostile questions Wednesday from angry GOP senators, who lashed the Texas tea party freshman for helping prompt a government shutdown crisis without a strategy to end it.

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    http://bobcesca.thedailybanter.com/blog-archives/2013/10/ted-cruzs-fifteen-minutes-are-ticking-away-quickly.html

  2. 4 Alycee (@jazziz2)
    October 4, 2013 at 11:16 am

    Good morning, TOD!

  3. 7 jacquelineoboomer
    October 4, 2013 at 11:18 am

    Good morning!

  4. 11 amk for obama
    October 4, 2013 at 11:22 am

    • 12 hopefruit2
      October 4, 2013 at 11:25 am

      I’m so impressed – Jay refuses to be pushed around by these GOP activists posing as “journalists”

    • 14 99ts
      October 4, 2013 at 11:59 am

      So no point in a press conference today – everyone knows that one question will be asked in 15 different ways by the GOP tools in the WHPC

    • 15 vcprezofan2
      October 4, 2013 at 12:51 pm

      @PressSec is definitely one of the brilliant leadership choices PBO has made, matching qualified people with jobs in his cabinet.

  5. 16 amk for obama
    October 4, 2013 at 11:23 am

  6. 17 amk for obama
    October 4, 2013 at 11:25 am

  7. 18 cookemom
    October 4, 2013 at 11:26 am

    And the winner of the internet……..none other than our very own…….(insert drum roll)…….Donna!!!!!! Her super sleuthismnest has led to the McTurtle/Paul hot mic catch going viral on the tubz and broadcast on every cable channel’s loop-dee-loops.

  8. 19 Ladyhawke
    October 4, 2013 at 11:27 am

    The Shutdown Further Exposes the Congressional Clown Show

    By Bob Cesca

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    When we’re forcibly treated to an up-close view of today’s House of Representatives, say nothing of the Senate, it’s far from reassuring to be reminded that these are the men and women who are tasked with helping to shape the present and future of the United States of America. In addition to not appearing to be very bright, they’re not at all effective at the show. Political theater in 2013 has taken on an embarrassing, flop-sweat-inducing flavor. It’s almost worse than the scripted stunts on display on any televised reality show because these are public officials who are supposed to be more noble — who ought to know better. But they obviously don’t. Civility has been abandoned in lieu of shouting “you lie!” at the President of the United States, or Neugebauer shouting “baby killer!” at Rep. Bart Stupak (D-MI) and then publicly shaming a ranger who was simply doing her job. Even the mere facade of decorum has been stripped away to reveal an animal house of political hazings and narrow-minded, congressional adaptations of Jackass pranks.

    —————————————

    http://thedailybanter.com/2013/10/the-shutdown-further-exposes-the-congressional-clown-show/

  9. 20 hopefruit2
    October 4, 2013 at 11:31 am

    LOL-Now there’s an idea!!! Heh 🙂

  10. October 4, 2013 at 11:32 am

    I’m hoping that someone from North Carolina is here now and can answer this question: who is the congresscritter for Fort Bragg, NC? I tried googe/wikipedia, but am not sure exactly where the base is in relationship to Fayetteville, and can’t figure out who represents that base.

    On CBS world news roundup (7 am Pacific time) they had reporters at Fort Bragg and Joshua Tree CA, both very hard hit by the government shutdown.

    Fort Bragg because 7,000 civilians are laid off.

    Joshua Tree because they get 1/3 of their annual business in October and November. They interviewed a clerk at a local small business that sells camping gear, and she said they usually have over 100 customers now; yesterday they had 5, and if the shutdown continues she won’t be at work next week.

    Just two stories from very RED congressional districts.

    Joshua Tree is CA-08, Paul Cook from Yucca Valley.

    Fort Bragg (not sure) Renee Elmers, NC-02?

    • 22 jacquelineoboomer
      October 4, 2013 at 11:37 am

      I’m guessing the only people NOT impressed and moved by your story are congressional Republicans. Unfortunately, it’s just a fact. They only care about the big office, their money backers, and not being primaried by their own.

    • 23 Desert flower
      October 4, 2013 at 11:47 am

      That’ Mike McIntyre’s district from what I see

    • 25 Dudette
      October 4, 2013 at 12:02 pm

      Fort Bragg is just outside Fayetteville
      I graduated from H.S. there a year after my Dad retirement from the Army.
      It’s in the 4th Congressional District — Congressman David Price (D)

    • 29 Dudette
      October 4, 2013 at 12:28 pm

      Btw, the economy city of Fayetteville and the surrounding towns is inextricably linked to Ft Bragg and support for the military families. So it’s not just the people who work directly for the govt who are being hurt – it’s the businesses that serve them as well. If you don’t get a paycheck, you’re not consuming goods and services. You can’t pay your utility bill or your rent. You can’t go out to eat, get your clothes dry cleaned, go to the movies, afford day care, buy a car, buy clothes… etc.

  11. October 4, 2013 at 11:35 am

    Good Morning everyone. I love the TOD family and this blog. The GOP mindset hit me today. We get paid every other Friday. Some goes to savings but most goes to our expenses. I give myself a limit and pay all our bills early every month. We have mortgage…insurance for home and auto, car payment, utilities, cable, internet and phone.

    My husband calls me and tells me, “Don’t spend all the money”. What he does not see is that I am not spending money, I am paying our bills. He is a Republican but did vote for PBO and the Dem ticket the last few elections. I guess they see paying bills as spending.

  12. 31 utaustinliberal
    October 4, 2013 at 11:40 am

    Mark Knoller truly is an ignorant fool.

  13. 33 99ts
    October 4, 2013 at 11:45 am

    Jon Stewart seems to have discovered his flawed logic in attacking the President for the past few years – too little, too late – the GOP seems to have to be really really really stupid before anyone in the media calls them out. Took 6 years and 2 wars before people realized the disaster of GWB – and it has taken the GOP attacking their country from within for the disaster of the republican party to be (very slowly) admitted by some in the media.

  14. 34 Bill R.
    October 4, 2013 at 11:49 am

  15. October 4, 2013 at 11:53 am

    • 36 Vicki
      October 4, 2013 at 12:13 pm

      Hearing John Boehner squealing that USA has a spending problem is driving me crazy.
      PBO has spent the least of any President in the last 50 years.
      Can someone, anyone shut this orange idiot up?

  16. 38 amk for obama
    October 4, 2013 at 11:57 am

  17. 39 jziglar
    October 4, 2013 at 11:58 am

    The GOP and their media shills can try to use anonymous quotes to help the republicans but it won’t work. The WSJ is Rupert Murdoch’s rag so anything they say should be taken with a grain of salt.

  18. 40 Linda
    October 4, 2013 at 12:00 pm

    Is this any good ? I don’t have any speakers right now.

    • 41 Nena20409
      October 4, 2013 at 12:18 pm

      Good Morning TOD. I have been trying to post this and I have managed to convince myself that I was doing it all wrong. Now I know that I was not…..Video is 1001%, but the audio is Flat Zero…..no sound.

  19. 45 57andfemale
    October 4, 2013 at 12:02 pm

  20. 46 LDS
    October 4, 2013 at 12:04 pm

    99ts, that’s about it in a nutshell.
    Also, maybe Jon Stewart not winning an Emmy award may humbled him( a little)…..

    I still just cannot see why intelligent, smart people did not see through these racist bastards calling themselves TP. It’s just another name for KKK. The KKKoch bros. pimped them real good and the PL and emoprogs fell for the setup. They just spewed out what was already in them. They all came out from underneath the “white privileged sheets” wanting high five for voting for a Black man…..And PBO is still a Black man.
    They sat quietly by and let GWB do his dumb thing. Then they stayed home and not vote in 2010…. So now this is what the country and the hardest working caring President in years have to contend with. Jon Stewart,RM, OWS, PL, Emoprogs cans just STFU while PBO and his administration cleanup another mess they help create.

    While we are pointing fingers at MSM, Repugs, haters and trollers, don’t forget the “privillege ones”.
    Very quiet now…..”you hear a rat piss on cotton.” as my grandmother used to say……(very wise woman)

  21. October 4, 2013 at 12:05 pm

  22. 49 JER
    October 4, 2013 at 12:06 pm

  23. 51 Linda
    October 4, 2013 at 12:06 pm

    Dana Bash is trying to make us believe the Republicans really talk directly to their constituents by phone while in DC and they are getting high 5 support.

    She is a GOP mouthpiece.

    • 52 anniebella
      October 4, 2013 at 12:14 pm

      Dana Dash is another Elizabeth Hasselbeck. Remember Bash was marry to John King a Republican.

    • 54 Lovepolitics2008
      October 4, 2013 at 1:33 pm

      The rank and file tea-partiers are indeed very happy that republicans are blocking everything. I’m no fan of Dana Bash, but what she’s saying rings true to me.

  24. 55 amk for obama
    October 4, 2013 at 12:06 pm

    stolen from thinkprogress

  25. 56 Vicki
    October 4, 2013 at 12:09 pm

    Rising star for NY democrats Hakeem Jeffries. Hakeem is a first time congressman from Brooklyn. He is progressive, smart, charismatic and in my view very very very handsome.
    Good to see him address the Progressive rally just ending on the capitol steps now. He was powerful and noteworthy eve in this group which had some of the strongest democratic leaders come to the podium.

    • 57 Dudette
      October 4, 2013 at 12:16 pm

      Have seen him on TV a few times now. I LIKE this guy! Very glad the people of NY sent him to Congress!

    • 58 99ts
      October 4, 2013 at 12:19 pm

      It sounds rather like the Roman empire with people rallying on the steps of the Capitol. All sorts of quotations from Mark Antony come to mind.

      I am not at all meaning to distract from your support of Rep Jeffries – the scene just took me back to the movies of the 1950s (I am so old as to remember)

      • 59 Vicki
        October 4, 2013 at 12:45 pm

        Not a distraction, 99ts, I have those same associations.
        And Dudette, glad you like HJ. Do you agree with my very very very handsome opinion or is that just too shallow of me?

        As long as my shallow self is out now I’m going to comment on President Obama’s outfit in the CNBC interview. Light blue shirt with narrow white stripe, bright blue polka dot tie and a lighter than usual blue suit. PBO looked sensational.

  26. 60 HZ
    October 4, 2013 at 12:15 pm

    Good Morning Chips and TOD family. My thoughts of joy and blessings go out to Sherijr on this beautiful birthday celebration. Have a wonderful celebration.

    My pressure is moving as we speak. C-SPAN 2 now has slim crap Ted Cruz on the floor. These people are evil. I am so upset with these liars.HZ

    • 61 Layla
      October 4, 2013 at 12:17 pm

      Ohh HZ! I am lighting a candle just for you right now Love

      • 62 HZ
        October 4, 2013 at 12:49 pm

        Good Morning my beautiful Layla. ((((((((((( Thank you))))))))))). I have just lit some and looked directly at one of my favorites photos of my precious mother, and I felt strength from words that she always spoke to her children:” Rise to your day with thanksgiving, move with the graces provided to you; live on the new mercies from Almighty; and do not allow the evils of this world distract you. But move with purpose and preparedness to improve your life and others that you can help.”

        I am going to be quiet in my spirit and turn to my space and clear the entrance to my space for goodness to enter. I will take responsibility for my actions carefully. I am so blessed, but I hurt to see so much drama by these fools as they play games with our president and the American people. These people need to rot in their hell that they have created for all of us. I really do. Now that is my truth.HZ

    • 63 sherijr
      October 4, 2013 at 12:20 pm

      good morning HZ ~ thank you so much for your wishes to me ! I wish you joy and wellness in return… and a (((((hz)))) wee hug. Have a good day & do not let these knuckleheads get to you.

      • 64 jacquelineoboomer
        October 4, 2013 at 12:22 pm

        sherijr – Happy Libra Birthday! Enjoy all of it!

      • 70 HZ
        October 4, 2013 at 12:30 pm

        Hi sherijr. ((((((( sherijr)))))) TY so much. I am going to be fine. I just get so hurt because I am so tired of ugly lying. These are just nasty, evil, and racists people through and though. I have tried to hold my tongue for so long, but today I ask for prayer today.

        I want you to please enjoy your birthday. If I were near you, I would take you out for a beautiful lunch. You all are my loving family, and I want you to enjoy your beautiful birthday.

        I do confess, I am a little in sad mode because the one person that I love so dearly, my wonderful brother just left to go on another trip out of the country that he must take, and I already miss him. Plus, I always get a little on edge until he returns from these trips. Just a big sis who is a little sensitive this morning. I will come and spend some time with my TOD family today. ((((((( I love you all so much))))))))HZ

        • 71 0388jojothecat
          October 4, 2013 at 12:45 pm

          Good morning HZ,

          We will pray that your brother returns safe and sound which I know he will. Big ((((hugs)))) to you and hope all this drama will come to an end. It feels like the entire country is suffering from PSTD because of the Republicans…two wars, a depression, folks losing their homes, jobs, etc., when we finally get a DEM President with a DEM house and senate cry babies stayed at home and gave the keys to the House and now they are tearing the USA apart. I hope they have learned their lesson and vote these stupid people out so that our President can continue doing good things for our country.

          • 72 HZ
            October 4, 2013 at 1:04 pm

            Good Morning beautiful jojo. Thank you so much. I ((((((((( Thank you, jojo))))))))). His leaving was on the heels of our beautiful Rock of our family, our mother’s final resting place on this earth was yesterday. I felt physically that I was being left alone. Just a little sensitive. It all overcame me early this morning. (He is going to a very dangerous place in the world) to take care of something that requires him to do his job which is in a very high profile position; so baby sis gets a little anxious which I know that he has the best protection in the world, but he is still my baby brother whom I love so dearly. I just got weak this morning because I chose to be distracted first thing this morning and allowed other things that I did not prepare myself space to take care of this morning. My mistake.

            Now, with my candle-setting and falling quietly to my knees for prayer and meditations, I feel a quiet peaceful. I will be okay because we have so much work to get done leading up to 2014, and surely be there for President Obama for sure. I have seen these happenings that we are witnessing in Congress before, so I know that these foolish and evil people will try to wear us down and this president down; but it Will Not Happen. We may stumble for a moment, but we Will Not Fall or Fail. I know President Obama better than these foolish people do.

            We will be fine. I will be fine. I apologize to Chips and my TOD family for bringing my cares to our family space. We are here to support and respect President Obama. I promise I will do my part. But I know we are mad as hell because of this evil opposition.
            ((((((((((((((((((((( Love you all so much))))))))))))))))))))))))HZ

            • 73 0388jojothecat
              October 4, 2013 at 1:28 pm

              We love you HZ and we are here to support each other in our love and joy of PBO as well as for our fellow TOD’ers. I feel we are family and family listens to our triumphs and defeats to lift us up with prayer and just to say we care.

        • 74 jacquelineoboomer
          October 4, 2013 at 12:52 pm

          HZ – Wish I had a brother – yours must be quite the man to be so deserving of his sweet sister’s love! He’ll be fine, and we love you back!

          • 75 LDS
            October 4, 2013 at 12:59 pm

            HZ, prayers for you and your brother. Family matters. So nice to know that you have that special bond.
            I will keep him in prayer specially for traveling mercy.

          • 76 HZ
            October 4, 2013 at 2:04 pm

            Thank you jacquelineoboomer. (((((Love you for your kindness)))))). Yes, I am blessed to still be alive and to enjoy a very special and beautiful brother. He is so much calmer that I am. But we both have such a loving bond. Getting ready to celebrate my birthday near the very end of this month just brings me to so many celebratory moments in honor of our precious mother who carried me and my brother for those nine month is a beautiful time. I have always celebrated my birthday during the entire month because we have her birthday, her mother’s birthday, and my oldest great niece’s birthday (on my mother’s birthday) in the same month.

            You all here have reminded me of the importance of a loving family. Thank you. I was just so full this morning. I saw two families who are in dire need because of what is happening in DC.., and yesterday took a lot of loving energy from the space that I was in, and I carried those needs of how to help into my evening space; so this morning I did not wisely start out with my space filled up with the power in my thought process being filled with great energy. I clicked on C-SPAN2 to hear where the Senate was going today, and there is where I made my mistake. My space was too raw to be there this morning. My mistake.

            Good news, my brother sent a text to my niece and I know he must have felt the anxiety in my voice; so he had her call me. So good to speak with her and share with her. She knows me so well. Uncle and niece felt my energy. Being their only auntie and uncle, the girls are are so protected as well. This niece makes me laugh. Auntie needed that, and her uncle knew that. I am fine now. Candles on, prayers said, and Almighty will protect my brother and those with him.

            ((((((((((((((((((((( Thank you, my TOD family)))))))))))))))))))))))) HZ is back in fighting mode. Deep down, I know that we will get through all of this, but I need to approach the fight like I know President Barack Obama is going to fight it. I should no better. Please forgive me, TOD family. This beautiful family is soooooooooooooooooooooooo Awesome!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Thank you, my beautiful Chips.HZ

        • 79 sherijr
          October 4, 2013 at 2:28 pm

          ohh ((((HZ)))))) there is nothing I would enjoy more than to have lunch with you ~ what a lovely time we would have! I’m sending out my most positive thoughts and good wishes to you and to your beloved brother- that his trip will be safe and short and productive… and that your day will lighten and brighten. I personally think its just fine to get angry at these liars/obstructionists.. so every now and again- a rant is healthy and good and can release some of that frustration. Thank you, again for your birthday wishes, I am having a pretty darn good day 🙂 and each of you added to that more than I can express~

      • 84 sjterrid
        October 4, 2013 at 7:53 pm

        Happy Birthday, sherijr! I hope you have a great day.

  27. 86 Dudette
    October 4, 2013 at 12:16 pm

  28. 87 Dudette
    October 4, 2013 at 12:17 pm

    Can you believe the nerve of this guy?!! UGH!

  29. 91 Linda
    October 4, 2013 at 12:17 pm

    Complaint Filed Against GOP Rep Who Blamed Park Ranger For Shutdown

    The Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington filed an ethics complaint Friday against Rep. Randy Neugebauer (R-Texas), the congressman caught on video berating a park ranger at the National World War II Memorial.

    The complaint was filed with the Office of Congressional Ethics, on the same day a petition was launched urging Neugebauer to apologize. The Texas Republican drew immediate backlash when he scolded a park ranger for turning people away amid the government shutdown.

  30. 94 amk for obama
    October 4, 2013 at 12:19 pm

    Another one stolen from tp.

    • 95 0388jojothecat
      October 4, 2013 at 12:48 pm

      From your tweet to reality…..if only this would happen. These people (GOP voters) cannot overcome their racist hate for DEMS when they listen to hate radio 24/7.

  31. 96 Dudette
    October 4, 2013 at 12:22 pm

  32. 98 Dudette
    October 4, 2013 at 12:23 pm

  33. 99 99ts
    October 4, 2013 at 12:24 pm

    http://www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2013/10/president-obama-has-had-enough

    Boehner really thought he could keep doing this for 8 years – “The rules and promises Boehner makes are not their (the White House) problem, they’ve decided. They’re not going to save him”

  34. 103 amk for obama
    October 4, 2013 at 12:31 pm

  35. 106 amk for obama
    October 4, 2013 at 12:33 pm

  36. 107 Dudette
    October 4, 2013 at 12:33 pm

  37. 108 amk for obama
    October 4, 2013 at 12:35 pm

  38. 109 Dudette
    October 4, 2013 at 12:37 pm

  39. 112 amk for obama
    October 4, 2013 at 12:37 pm

  40. 114 amk for obama
    October 4, 2013 at 12:38 pm

    • 115 carolyn
      October 4, 2013 at 1:06 pm

      I signed this petition, and gave as my reason what I’ve been saying, that we are in the midst of a constitutional crisis, and if this is allowed to proceed, we will lose our democracy. I noticed that Kevin Drum said the same thing in Mother Jones. I hope that eventually PBO goes on TV and explains this to the public in a prime time speech.

      • 116 Lovepolitics2008
        October 4, 2013 at 2:02 pm

        He will carolyn, he won’t have the choice. The media is beginning to put pressure on democrats and the President. As usual the media doesn’t see the big picture. President Obama won’t have the choice to go prime time and talk to the american people unfiltered. Teacher in chief.

        Gosh he must find it so exhausting to have to deal with so much crap. Corruption, but also ignorance. I look at all the national pundits. Who, among them, are KNOWLEDGEABLE about the Constitution, about the economy, about policy in general ? WHO??

        These media people have no brain power. Almost none of them. No wonder they’re only able to talk about the political process.

  41. 117 Dudette
    October 4, 2013 at 12:38 pm

  42. 118 amk for obama
    October 4, 2013 at 12:41 pm

    Loving these. See the pics inside.

  43. 119 57andfemale
    October 4, 2013 at 12:47 pm

    Update, TOD: I have FINALLY found rates IL. Here’s a spreadsheet from healthcare.gov that gives rates, but not detailed info on co-pays, deductibles or info on the networks. But it’s a great place to see what basic rates are.

    https://www.healthcare.gov/health-plan-information/

    Apparently, the age groups are quite broad. For me, ’50 and over’.

    Bottom line (drum roll please):

    The most expensive plan for my age group, before subsidies $639. I’m probably looking at around $500 for a Gold plan, before subsidies.

    All are PPO or HMO. I have read that the networks are restrictive and you can’t drill down into that info without going through the actual exchange. Traffic is still really heavy – I try several times/day. There is no rush.

    At these prices, worst case scenario – I could still afford to see my asthma doctor if he isn’t included on the exchanges. The medications are the issue. But as yet, I’m not sure he won’t be on at least one of these plans.

    I am beyond ecstatic.

    Eight years ago, my husband and I were paying $1,100/month for catastrophic coverage that precluded my asthma entirely or “anything connected to me pulmonary system” or my high blood pressure. Yes, if I’d gotten a punctured lung in a car accident I would have had to fight to get the claim paid.

    That policy was $10,000 deductible, high co-pays.

    I am dancing with glee. Not a pretty sight, with my arthritic hip. But dancing, I am.

    • 120 amk for obama
      October 4, 2013 at 12:56 pm

      Go hf. Congrats. I was keen on knowing how you did.

      Traffic is still really heavy. Music to my ears. And I hate traffic.

      • 121 57andfemale
        October 4, 2013 at 12:58 pm

        This kind of ‘traffic’ is the best news evah!

        I am beyond ecstatic.

        What kind of sociopaths have managed to make sociopaths out of half this country, believing this is a bad thing?

        • 122 amk for obama
          October 4, 2013 at 1:01 pm

          I am so happy. May your premiums keep going down and health keep going up.

          • 123 57andfemale
            October 4, 2013 at 1:03 pm

            That’s so sweet. Thank you.

            • 124 amk for obama
              October 4, 2013 at 1:08 pm

              Just tweeted it. I know how you have been worried by ACA for a long time now. I am glad it met your expectations.

              • 125 57andfemale
                October 4, 2013 at 1:23 pm

                I’ve just been so anxious for its implementation. It’s terrifying to be one disease or accident from ruin, even though you’ve tried to be responsible all your life. I never dreamed I would be totally uninsurable. Hubby and I were talking yesterday about how health insurance has deteriorated in this country since Reagan began to remove the regulations. It used to be a very regulated industry. You never dreamed that claims wouldn’t be paid. This country has gone to hell since the Reagan ‘revolution’.

                • 126 amk for obama
                  October 4, 2013 at 1:28 pm

                  raygun is the root of the all present day evils dogging US. I campaigned for mondale when I was there in 83-85. Learnt then most US voters are stupid.

                  • 127 Lovepolitics2008
                    October 4, 2013 at 2:09 pm

                    Many many people vote on shallow impressions. Do they like the person ? do they IDENTIFY with him/her in some way ?

                    The genius of Reagan is that he played the role of the reassuring father/grandfather really really well. He told americans a beautiful fairytale and people LOVE fairytales.

                    Barack Obama is asking americans to grow up. Much more difficult.

                  • 128 57andfemale
                    October 4, 2013 at 2:23 pm

                    And they are MUCH stupider now. Reagan ‘revolution’, Religious Right, etc. have deliberately planned to make our citizens stupid. And it’s worked. I swear, amk, I don’t even recognize my country anymore.

  44. 131 amk for obama
    October 4, 2013 at 12:48 pm

    Looks like wall street has jumped the tea party sinking ship, which they built in the first place.

  45. 132 amk for obama
    October 4, 2013 at 12:50 pm

  46. 133 Dudette
    October 4, 2013 at 12:51 pm

    Happy Birithday sherijr!!!

    Celebrate it to the fullest!

  47. 134 99ts
    October 4, 2013 at 12:53 pm

    I’m a bit slow – must be because its late in my world – only reason the WSJ spoke of “winning” as said by the administration is because of the hot mic conversation that Donna tweeted until the media picked it up. The only people talking about winning and losing are the Republicans.

  48. 135 anniebella
    October 4, 2013 at 1:09 pm

    So Boehner suppose to be upset over something he read in the Wall Street Journal , a right wing rag. Where Obama and Reid supposingly said that they don’t care when the shutdown end case they are winning. I don’t believe President Obama or Harry Reid said anything like that.


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