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Woot Bill R congrats
Thanks for the reminder Chips.
POTUS and Bill Clinton.
Clinton is asking the questions?
Okay then. MSNBC is going to carry it Live.
You’re probably right. I cannot stand to even look at Bill Clinton, much less listen to him.
He will ask a lot better questions than the media. That’s for sure.
I know how you feel. I have debating whether I want to even listen to this. Maybe I will. I love our POTUS, but I can’t hardly stand Bill Clinton or Hilary.
Watched the whole thing — very informative.
Congrats Bill. Gold ❗ It is 😉
Good Grief……
CNN just had Frank Gaffney on to discuss Iran…….( how low can they go ? )
That’s pretty low. Can’t believe some of these people are still around, with their ignorant ways.
TeaNN ain’t worth sh*t. Lone gone are the days when Ted Turner own CNN (TeaNN) and it had morals, values.
Yes, it used to be the place to go for international news. No longer.
Ya gotta laugh at these people.
This a link for the CGI Live streaming.
http://www.clintonglobalinitiative.org/ourmeetings/2013/
For those who might want to watch the POTUS live…..when the time comes.
Since I’m retiring in May 2014, I’m starting to clean up some of the “stuff” I have on my office compupter. I came across this quote I had copied from a 2008 article Glenn Greenwold had written for Salon on “Warrior Culture”:
“There is nothing more psychologically invigorating than the belief that you are staring down the Greatest and Most Evil Enemy Ever in History, courageously waging glorious war for all that is Good and Just in the world. Nothing produces more pulsating feelings of excitement and nobility like convincing yourself that you are a Warrior defending Western Civilization from the greatest threat it has ever faced, following in — even surpassing — the mighty footsteps of the Greatest Generation and the Warrior-Crusaders who came before them.
Glenn Greenwald, Salon.com, 2/17/08
He was writing about “others” at the time, but I think this quote represents what he has been doing himself of late!!
IOW ~ sounds as if he is a legend in his own mind…
This made me want to throw up.
I loathe Greenwald, refuse to Google to see if he served in the military, but I highly doubt it.
The most vocal defenders of Manning had no military service. Those who have served know that you take an oath to defend the nation, and what Manning did was a violation of that oath.
So far, Greenwald has a stellar record of defending
a) Neo-nazi (Hale)
b) Uniformed traitor (Manning)
c) Traitor (Snowden)
d) Child porn distributor (FBI agent who leaked Yemen undercover agent to AP)
And all his narcissistic supporters believe they could be snooped on by the Feds. Only terrorists and these kind of people need worry. Everyone else, get over yourself.
Check out what Chips underlined here:
Adolf Hitler grandson.
Wow. How low indeed can one go.
Talk about giving a person enough rope…….I present to you the highly esteemed Senator who follows in the footsteps of the highly intellectual Gov Perry, none other than the genius in his own and two other Senator’s minds, Rafeal Cruz, as he denounces members of his own party on the floor of the Senate.
I can’t wait to see how this ends for him…..a cache full of $$$$$…..his own show on Fox…..a gig dancing with the stars…. frequent flyer miles to the Ditto show……and a ‘you betcha also too’ nod from the caribou.
I’m for a shovel drive to make sure he never runs out of what he needs to continue to bury his party.
This man has become my favorite politician.
Well, now you have me interested in following him! Or maybe I’ll just follow what you write about him. Too funny, and you nailed it!
I just heard President Obama’s UN speech. It shows that he has his finger on the pulse of what’s going on and his ear to the ground to hear what is being said and the understanding of how it is being perceived around the USA and the world. He also is very clear about what the USA will and won’t do.
God bless President Barack Obama.
I also just listened to President Obama’s UN speech. He has such a total grasp of the world today. My immediate thought was…..”Where would the world be today without him? I hate to even imagine!” If ever a person was needed at a specific time in history. he was needed now….not just for the U.S., but for the world.
I think this is the prelude to bigger things when he leaves office. He will outpace Bill Clinton for what he will accomplish in and out of office. God Bless our President & first Family. I watched his speech live and was just in awe of his understanding of what is happening here and abroad.
Rouhani is Chicken!!!
complexes in domestic politics is often not what is reported in external media outlets;
for instance, the US media convinced much of the world that PBO would not be re-elected or if he did then it would be with a very slight margin or loss of popular vote – enthusiasm gap and all;
possible there are other things going on internally that we don’t know;
remember that reports indicated that Mr. Rouhani met with the Supreme before he left for NYC so who knows what was said.
as long as the foreign minister of Iran and SoS Kerry are talking, we may eventually get to the PBO-Rouhani handshake
It was not about the handshake. I could care less. It was them snubbing WH invitation to meet at UNGA, especially when it was Iran trumpeting their desire to do so in their charm offensive. Missed opportunity to “unclench their fist”
Here’s the info on Rouhani declining WH invitation to meet at UNGA
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Read more: http://backchannel.al-monitor.com/index.php/2013/09/6318/white-house-no-obama-rouhani-meeting-iranians-said-too-complicated/#ixzz2fqFngcfr
the statement below implies that in Iran internal challenges exists to proceed at this time:
“it is too complicated for the Iranians to do at this point,”
At least the world knows that PBO was willing to take a chance – patience may be called for and this is something we know PBO does well.
Our President’s hand is outstretched. Hopefully the Iranian fist will unclench soon.
Plouffe on Cruz madness
More like tales as told by Fools, Full of sound and fury, signifying Nothing. That is Rafael Edward Cruz.
Between the record of GWB and Ted Cruz – to mention a few crazy alumni, Harvard must start re-evaluating some of the people it has awarded degrees – they hurt the brand with their utter stupidity
https://twitter.com/Dudette9t9/status/382593367667769345
Larry Klayman’s dedication is bordering Insanity.
Coup d’etat in a nation with 237 yrs?
I smell a pigmentation causality? Hate is such a wicked disease.
OMG…he is insane…..and needs to lose his law license….
Not insane. That would be too easy. Let’s just say he’s fact-challenged and confused. At the very least his law license should be revoked but more importantly he needs some time to re-educate himself. I hope he gets the time he needs … in the slammer.
Sorry wrong twitter handle for Dept of Justice. Fixed it here
The media has to stop giving these RWNJs space – his stupid shouldn’t see the light of day
Cruz has been on the Senate floor since 2:40 and still yapping.
That’s one way to get somebody to pay attention to you, eh, Cruz? Nobody can stand his yapping, unless he pulls a stunt.
Yes, but he lasted only an hour before he asked Mike Lee to take over for him. He’s already reading unemployment figures and John Edwrds’ Two Americas. As Jason Easley says on Politicususa…Wendy Davis is ten times as tough as he is. He’s soft.
Tough or not, he’s showing what’s wrong with the tea party crowd and whom they select as their senators, right before their eyes. Hope it has a good end. And not for him.
I just went to TPM from a link – their front page is covered in Ted Cruz articles – whether they be positive or negative – the media is MAKIN Ted Cruz the news. I’m almost at the stage where the only place to find honest US news is on TOD
MAKING – sigh
I didn’t listen to any cable news for a couple of days – until today – and just got all my news here. Should have done that again today, since the few minutes I’ve seen have been horrible. That dork John Feehery, R strategist, on Hardball just said Cruz has “no allegiance to the Republican party.” Well, do something about it, Republicans.
Hi JoB
Just back from a busy day – I just couldn’t believe all the stories about Ted Cruz – like Sarah Palin – any news is good news – why the give him the time of day says so much about the media
I don’t watch the news in my town either – ghastly new government – hating on the immigrants, the poor & most in between.
There’s an outbreak of hate, all over the place! Cruz is unbelievable, but just one of many.
Chips, everyone – you can watch Presidents Obama & Clinton live here – http://www.whitehouse.gov//blog/2013/09/23/president-obama-and-president-clinton-talk-health-care-clinton-global-initiative
Thank you Bob!
Would be great to see someone intertwine the videos of these two speeches ….
#TrustBarack
Former President Bill Clinton said his organization personally experienced loss in the Nairobi mall shooting, telling CBS that a pregnant employee of the Clinton Global Initiative was killed in the attack.
Clinton told “CBS This Morning” that an employee in the organization’s health access program — “which works on getting the world’s cheapest AIDS and malaria drugs and building health systems around Africa” — was among those killed in Kenya.
“She actually worked in Tanzania. And I saw her just a couple weeks ago in Dar es Salaam when I was there, but she was nine months pregnant, just a couple of weeks away from delivery,” Clinton said. “So, she and her baby’s father were walking in that mall in Nairobi, because she wanted to have the baby in Kenya. She thought that would be best. And they were both killed.”
That is so horrendous! Prayers for their families and friends.
CGI Live Streaming:
http://new.livestream.com/CGI/CGI2013
Woohoooooo. Great news.
I missed Rhouhani’s (sp) speech…. plumber here all day repairing leak after leak after leak.. I digress… SOOOO how was his speech (Iranian leader)????
Sherijr, He speaks at 4:55pm. I think it will be on C-Span.
thank you Allison, I just realized that.. I thought I’d missed him, but dang now I’m watching POTUS & Clinton.
PRESIDENT OBAMA REMARKS ON IRAN AND NUCLEAR WEAPONS
—– But to succeed, conciliatory words will have to be matched by actions that are transparent and verifiable.
Remarks by President Obama in Address to the United Nations General Assembly
September 24, 2013
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Meanwhile, the Supreme Leader has issued a fatwa against the development of nuclear weapons, and President Rouhani has just recently reiterated that the Islamic Republic will never develop a nuclear weapon.
So these statements made by our respective governments should offer the basis for a meaningful agreement. We should be able to achieve a resolution that respects the rights of the Iranian people, while giving the world confidence that the Iranian program is peaceful. But to succeed, conciliatory words will have to be matched by actions that are transparent and verifiable. After all, it’s the Iranian government’s choices that have led to the comprehensive sanctions that are currently in place. And this is not simply an issue between the United States and Iran. The world has seen Iran evade its responsibilities in the past and has an abiding interest in making sure that Iran meets its obligations in the future.
But I want to be clear we are encouraged that President Rouhani received from the Iranian people a mandate to pursue a more moderate course. And given President Rouhani’s stated commitment to reach an agreement, I am directing John Kerry to pursue this effort with the Iranian government in close cooperation with the European Union — the United Kingdom, France, Germany, Russia and China.
The roadblocks may prove to be too great, but I firmly believe the diplomatic path must be tested. For while the status quo will only deepen Iran’s isolation, Iran’s genuine commitment to go down a different path will be good for the region and the world, and will help the Iranian people meet their extraordinary potential — in commerce and culture; in science and education.
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http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2013/09/24/remarks-president-obama-address-united-nations-general-assembly
I think former President Carter was correct when he said, “Republicans are men of narrow vision, who are afraid of the future.”
Republicans didn’t want Social Security.
Republicans didn’t want Medicare/Medicaid.
Republicans don’t want Obamacare.
Heads up:
5:0 EDT President Obama participates in a conversation with Bill Clinton on Health Care Reform
http://new.livestream.com/CGI/CGI2013
http://www.whitehouse.gov//blog/2013/09/23/president-obama-and-president-clinton-talk-health-care-clinton-global-initiative
Former Austrian PM………….waving!!
Hillary gave a great introduction of 42 and 44. Oh and I like Hillary new haircut.
C Span is buffering and freezing on my computer. Anyone else experiencing difficulty in hearing President Rouhani speak?
The Israel seats are empty
They need to keep their boogyman…
well we know POTUS isn’t there, but are the rest of our delegation in attendance?
The only empty chairs that were shown were the Israeli ones.
Refusing to participate is a great way to conduct international affairs – and they wonder why they live in a perpetual state of stupid.
I have a health care question… if anyone knows the answer: If you already have health insurance via your employer- are you allowed to switch if you want from the employer insurers to something offered in the exchanges? My plumber told me today that his wife – who is HR at her company says that employees cannot switch if they want to. My thinking is that they have to prolly wait for their company’s ‘opt’ out/in period to get out – and then could go to healthcare. gov and find their own.
Now POTUS just stated that folks WITH Health ins.. can now go get better insurance- but how does it work then?
He was talking about the individual market….when people can not get it where they work so they buy it on their own.
I am not sure about the employer thing…….I always thought that was an opt in benefit…..why can’t people just drop out ?
thanks Linda. I wonder if folks already getting it w/ their jobs- will also now get it cheaper as the rest of the country opts in with the exchanges.. would this not also lower costs for those people already enrolled, perhaps?
“It depends.” is the honest answer.
The basic answer is “No.” However, there are lots of gray bits… and things are going to change. (And much sooner than everyone realizes.)
If your employer-sponsored health plan meets the “minimum value standard” – if the plan’s share of the total allowed benefit costs covered by the plan is no less than 60 % of such costs (you pay 40%, plan pays 60%) – then it meets the MVS, and your premium (employee only) is 9.5% or less of your salary, then it’s deemed “affordable” and no, you cannot immediately switch to the exchanges.
The Exchanges are for people with no healthcare, or astronomical healthcare, or individuals who hate their individual plans. (Right now.)
However, if your employer has 50 or less employees, then your employer might decide to switch to a small group based plan on the exchange. (I’m not sure what states are going to be offering large-group based plans on the exchanges at this point, because having a large group already gives you giant negotiating power, and it’s likely you already have a super awesome, affordable plan.)
If your small-group employer is not following the rules of “employer-based healthcare” and doesn’t pay a minimum of 50% of your premium (and makes you pay 100%), then you could try to get something off the exchange – but you’ll be outing your employer breaking the rules. (Your employer isn’t a complete dirtbag, at least he’s trying and using the company to qualify you all for group insurance) but should try to move to a group plan on the exchange (to get the super-awesome tax credit), or drop offering healthcare, and allow everyone to go get an individual plan on the exchange.)
If your employer only pays for YOUR healthcare, and makes you pay 100% of your dependent’s premiums, you should talk to your accountant, and calculate if it’s cheaper to file your taxes “married filing separately”, and then drop them off your plan (because usually dependent charges are insanely expensive), and get them an individual plan on the exchange. But that’s a tax professional’s job to figure that out.
Obamacare has created a REAL FREE MARKET with the exchanges. Every carrier on the exchange is competing with every other carrier on the exchange, and prices are falling huge and fast.
Go here, and play with the Individual Shop & Compare tool at the California exchange – it’s awesome, and you’ll see what I mean:
http://www.coveredca.com/shopandcompare/
if you’re outside of Cali – try using 91510 as your zip and see what happens.
Wowwowowowow Tally!!! What a reply – thank you so very much. I’m actually passing this on to my plumber 🙂 I have VA healthcare so I’m in good shape, but my middle son will opting in for healthcare. So mucho thank yous for this in depth response.
It also varies by state – I’m getting certified for it here in Cali – so my knowledge is limited to here….. and I’m still training… there’s an Everest of Info on the ACA, and it’s all AWESOMESAUCE!
Eventually, people are going to talk to their friends and find out they’re all paying HALF what they used to pay, and demand that everyone have access to the exchanges.
So sayeth Tally’s Magic ACA 8 Ball™.
I agree… I’m getting more and more excited about all of it- think of how much healthier this country is going to be in just a few short years 🙂
Indeed. The biggest hurdle is going to be getting people to GO GET PREVENTATIVE CARE, and not go to work with their cooties when they’re sick, but just go to see their Dr and get well.
Eggzackly.
So I just went an informed my plumber.. he is excited about “Obamacare”… and I am absolutely certain he is no Democrat or President Obama lover… but that doesn’t stop me from telling everyone about the greatness of our POTUS. 😉
sheesh my typing, horrible tonight. excuse the typos please.
🙄 A Dsigarce.
your write it is 😉
Is anyone tuning in to the Iranian President’s speech?
programming is a bit tricky – conflicting (live) speeches of interest.
I will have to watch one later
No, I’m listening to President Obama and ex-President Clinton talk about Obamacare.
I keep adding to my list of people who are constantly seeking attention by doing or saying obnoxious things and therefore need to be ignored.
going forward, I will never mention the name of the grandstanding senator from TX again
Who as it turns out yesterday, Negotiated his Mockery of a filibuster with sen Reid.
Yet the Fool is chiding Backroom Deal in DC?
Tomorrow, his fake grandstanding ends.
I think because many on his side were upset with him for his words cowering out, he had to do this crap. I will not even tweet anything about him.
some of the others on my “to be permanently ignored list” include the:
– eye doctor who plays KY senator & his irrational father
– quitter from Alaska
– two O-haters riding the “poverty bus”
– car-alarm thief who represents Orange County
Yes, and he only lasted an hour on his own before he sat down to let Mike Lee give him a break…some strong guy…huh!
Wendy Dais stood on her OWN for over ten hours. He is a wuss.
Yes, the so-called press may be giving him coverage, actually over exposure, like they have so many. And what happens to their anointed idols? They crash and burn. If he really wanted to run for and win the presidency, he should have followed PBO’s example and kept his head down and worked hard in the Senate. He is making no friends in the Republican party, he will have no IOUs to call in. Susan Collins and one other Republican senator gave him the advice to do just that, but of course he didn’t follow it. He is making no friends, creating no loyalty, except with outsiders like Sarah. He will have no colleague of the respect of a Dick Durbin to stand with him and work with him.
I agree Linda – he is all over the news today – amazing how the media loves a RW grandstander – I will follow your lead
Media loves RW anything, especially talking points 🙂
New movie coming out Oct
If I may express a concern re. Obamacare——I keep reading/hearing that the “only way this will work” is if young, healthy people sign up for insurance. I feel this is concerning—–just thinking back to myself as a young person, and to my friends at the time, healthcare and insurance etc. was probably last on the list of things we were concerned about—if at all. I was just wondering how we make sure this is going to happen, other than the usual of directing people to websites and hope they follow through—-etc. Trying not to sound naive or uninformed, but what am I missing?
have participated in the local OFA training sessions about enrollment and there is a structured path to enroll these young people.
even the insurance companies and other stakeholders have come together and formed the non-partisan group called “getcovered” and they have people seeking young enrollees.
another tactic OFA is using on the ground is talking to parents (especially mothers) to enroll their kids since they are the ones who are likely to fund any medical bills if God-forbid their children need care
I had that same fear, but understand that almost every person that works either has insurance or wants insurance, but the problem was they couldn’t afford it. But with the tax credits for low wage workers who mostly are young people. The young people will be more inclined to pay for health insurance.
It will spread dotster – some will have parents like my daughter – who I incessantly harassed about getting some cover once she was no longer on our cover, some will have friends who are bankrupted by illness and some will discover the benefits of preventative health care. When I was young, my parents insisted I get health insurance & I saw no reason not to do so. The stories I have seen today with young people on TV saying they do not need health care is the media cherry picking to attack the health care law. It will end up like SS and medicare – no doubt it will improve overtime.
I think you are missing that the media is showing the negatives of Obamacare over and over and over – they are the GOP publicity wing – they ignore reality
If it makes you feel any better it has worked very well in Massachusetts, so it is not like the plan is untested.
Thanks for the encouraging responses everyone. I just worry that young people ALWAYS think that nothing bad could ever happen to them. And are more “fa la la la la la, where’s the party?” than responsible insurance purchasers.
There will also be tax penalties for those who refuse to buy health insurance. The penalties are small now, but will increase over time. These penalties will add money into the system to offset the cost of “free riders” and serve to encourage people to buy health insurance.
I’m not concern ,because young folks are smarter today then they were back then. Young folks don’t want to pay for car insurance, but if you want a car you must pay for car insurance. You want a home, you need home insurance. So why in hell wouldn’t young folks need health insurance.
What happens if you have an auto accident and no insurance? Or get stopped without any? It’s only good if you need it and bad news if you don’t.
I know when my husband and I were raising our kids we always mentioned that having health insurance was very important. Anytime our grown kids got jobs we always questioned them about what kind of health insurance was offered and mentioned it as a necessary expense when they were in college. They grew up knowing it was important. Not sure if it sinks in when kids do not hear this from parents as they grow up. Guess the stories of others their age that were in accidents, had health emergencies etc maybe of supreme importance.
So CNN and MSNBC are carrying the POTUS and Clinton Q%A Live and Fox is talking about Iran and showing the pres of Iran?
Both MSNBC and CNN are not interrupting and are not going in for any Commercials?
😯 and Pleased.
That was GREAT. Everybody SIGN UP!!!!!!!!!!!!!
IT SURE WAS. LET’S GET ‘ER DONE!
We mount FULL COURT PRESS!!!! Democrats are BRILLIANT!!!!
POTUS is FANTASTIC at promoting Obamacare!! BRAVO!!
If you don’t have healthcare insurance, sign up!!
Let’s repeat that to everyone meta. Get them to go to Healthcare .gov. and get the facts, not Ted Cruz lies.
Dotser3,
I hope this helps to address your concerns about how we get the youth signed up….
OFA is on the ground targeting young people and signing them up on the spot as well as directing them to the website.
We are at movie theaters, metro stops, college campuses. You name it and we have been there over the last few weeks and it will continue until the deadline which I believe it 12/15/2013.
I’m told that there are going to me constant PSA’s on TV during the signup period. Also, radio stations, Facebook, Twitter and Text Messaging is going to be used quit heavily .
Essentially they will be flooded with reminders to SIGNUP.
Thanks for the good info—–and thanks for all your work in this effort!
New post.
http://theobamadiary.com/2013/09/24/chat-away-245/
Some Pictures at the UN.
FLOTUS and a number of other 1st ladies.
HP has a few pictures. I trust our TOD bts to find much more. Please forgive me for linking HP.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/09/24/first-ladies-michelle-obama_n_3984130.html?utm_hp_ref=un-general-assembly#comments
I watched it on the Global Network until it just stopped. Then listened to it on WH.gov. I do have to say, Bill was very good and let the President explain everything and did his own analysis on what is going on. All together I thought it was a good presentation. What do you guys think?