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  1. September 1, 2013 at 7:44 am

    FiiiiIIIiiiiIIIIiiirrrrRRRRsssssSSSsst!

  2. 11 Ladyhawke
    September 1, 2013 at 7:52 am

    President Obama Undoes Imperial Presidency, Hands Congress Its Balls Back

    By Spandan

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    The president has just proven the cynics wrong, one more time. All we have heard from the media since the beginning of this crisis is how the president was going to start the attack … well, yesterday, you know. From every which corner, we have been hearing that the president was making a crass decision to rush to war. We have been constantly hearing complete and utter lies about how the president was going to strike without even giving the UN weapons inspectors time to finish their work.

    And now that he’s made the decision to bring Congress in, I am sure we are going to hear handwringings about how the president is indecisive, weak, etc. etc.
    .
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    Just like clockwork, the media has lined up to say how the president “changed his mind” at the last minute because… well because it turns out that their “reporting” all week long about an impending strike fell apart. He made them look like fools.

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    Read the full post here …

    http://www.thepeoplesview.net/2013/08/obama-hands-congress-its-balls-back.html

  3. 13 Ladyhawke
    September 1, 2013 at 7:58 am

    IT’S SO MUCH EASIER TO CRITICIZE THAN GOVERN

    Congress, be careful what you wish for

    By Steve Benen

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    The dirty little secret is that much of Congress was content to have no say in this matter. When a letter circulated demanding the president seek lawmakers’ authorization, most of the House and Senate didn’t sign it — some were willing to let Obama do whatever he chose to do, some didn’t want the burden of responsibility. Members spent the week complaining about the president not taking Congress’ role seriously enough, confident that their rhetoric was just talk.

    It spoke to a larger problem: for far too many lawmakers, it’s so much easier to criticize than govern. In recent years, members of Congress have too often decided they’re little more than powerful pundits, shouting from the sidelines rather than getting in the game.

    It’s one of the angles to today’s news that’s so fascinating — Obama isn’t just challenging Congress to play a constructive role in a national security matter, the president is also telling lawmakers to act like adults for a change. They’re federal lawmakers in the planet’s most powerful government, and maybe now would be a good time to act like grown-ups who are mindful of their duties.

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    http://maddowblog.msnbc.com/_news/2013/08/31/20273174-congress-be-careful-what-you-wish-for

    • September 1, 2013 at 8:02 am

      Thank you Ladyhawke, loved that piece – the perfect line about Congress: “The funny thing about a dog that chases a car? Sometimes it catches the car and has no idea what to do next.”

    • 15 99ts
      September 1, 2013 at 8:13 am

      “It spoke to a larger problem: for far too many lawmakers, it’s so much easier to criticize than govern”

      One of the major reasons the governing party in a democracy changes every 4-8 years. Those in opposition ALWAYS say they can do better – and then they get into power – and they do not do better.

  4. September 1, 2013 at 8:16 am

    Ahh, nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition:

  5. 17 Ladyhawke
    September 1, 2013 at 8:29 am

    Media Industrial Complex Has Meltdown Over Constitutional Government (Andrea Mitchell Haz a Sad)

    By Spandan

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    They – and media hanchos everywhere – cooked up every theory they could think of, except one: that when the president, and Sec. Kerry, and everyone else in the administration were telling you bumbling fools in the media that the president hadn’t yet made a decision, they were telling the truth (I know, I know, gasp!). It never even seems to register with the talking heads. No, even when they are being told clear as day that the president hasn’t made a decision, they know that the president really has, and it’s the decision they think he’s made, and if that doesn’t pan out, OMG, reversal!!!!!!

    I mean, God forbid you actually believed the president when he told you he hadn’t made a decision and he was really looking at all options on the table. God forbid you actually believe the President of the United States when he told you that this response is meant to be a response to the use of chemical weapons, not a helping hand to one side of the Syrian civil war. God forbid you actually believe the president when he says that as a Constitutional scholar, he wants the Congress to have buy-in. God forbid you actually are forced report the real news rather than figments of your imagination. God forbid. Right?

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    Read the full brilliant post here …..

    http://www.thepeoplesview.net/2013/08/media-industrial-complex-has-meltdown.html

    • 18 Don
      September 1, 2013 at 8:37 am

      Ladyhawke, Mrs. Greenspan was a mess yesterday after President Obama declared that he was not a dictator and that he would seek congressional approval for any military action. If anything President Obama caught everyone off guard, except those of us that trusted his judgement. Oh, and on October 1, 2013 the ACA goes into effect which is another bomb that the GOP can’t stop from going off.

      • 19 Vicki
        September 1, 2013 at 8:55 am

        Don, yes, I noticed that too, before I turned the tv off. Mrs. greenspan looked to be on the verge of tears. game set match to our brilliant unstoppable POTUS.

      • 20 Ladyhawke
        September 1, 2013 at 9:07 am

        Well, that must have been a sight to see yesterday. The Grand Dame of MSNBC having a cow on camera because President Obama made her breathless reporting look – dare I say it amateurish and premature. I can just imagine she was livid because you know – she is the ‘scoop mistress’. President Obama getting the approval of congress was not the narrative she wanted to wallow in for the next couple of weeks. And apparently, she was apoplectic because President Obama (who literally has the world on his shoulders) played golf. smdh

  6. September 1, 2013 at 8:29 am

    The US Media is so disgustingly transparent in their anti-Obama reporting, it would be quite comical if it weren’t so sickening and potentially dangerous, spreading that misinformation around.

    Yesterday prior to PBO’s statement, when the MSM was sooooo sure he was going to announce a strike, or at least movement in that direction (without congress input), they didn’t hesitate to show or mention supposedly antiwar “Syrian protesters.” Furthermore, the day before, NBC released a poll saying that almost 80% of Americans wanted PBO to seek congress’ approval before striking.

    As soon as PBO’s statement made it clear that he was not going to strike Syria in 2 hrs, start another open-ended war, and most importantly, allow congress to have the input they claimed they wanted, watch the media do a complete 180. They got rid of the antiwar Syrian protesters (have you seen or heard from them since?), and instead starting reporting on the “disappointed Syrians” who feel that PBO is weak…Then they completely stopped mentioning the NBC poll that they were basically singing as a chorus just the day before.

    Folks, after 5 years of seeing this same movie play out over and over, anyone who still believes the trash that comes from the US MSM where PBO is concerned, deserves to be misinformed and manipulated.

  7. September 1, 2013 at 8:30 am

    Good morning, Chips and TODVille.

    • September 1, 2013 at 8:35 am

      Morning Meta! And to think everyone assumed he would die before or during PBO’s trip to South Africa – what an extraordinary warrior. It sounds a little like he has been allowed home because he might be about to pass, but I’m beginning to think he’ll outlive us all.

      • 24 99ts
        September 1, 2013 at 8:36 am

        He is still receiving intensive care at home (as per the news in my world) – I think the family may have wanted him with them at this time.

      • September 1, 2013 at 8:46 am

        Moooorrnningggg, Chips! He is a complete warrior and treasure. I send him peace and comfort. What an era to witness for us all.

  8. 26 99ts
    September 1, 2013 at 8:35 am

    Great thread here – http://littlegreenfootballs.com/article/42461_President_Obama_Speaks_on_Syria/comments/#ctop

    the comments highlight the GOP and the media stopping in their tracks when they got what they asked for from PBO. a few favorites quoted some tweets – showing how much the GOP wanted PBO to use military force in Syria – not to save the people of Syria from anything – simply so they could stand on the floor of congress – or sit on the Sunday shows – and criticize his actions.

    Sahil Kapur @sahilkapur
    Bad news for the members of Congress who wanted to wash their hands of this and criticize whatever happened.

    Joseph Weisenthal @TheStalwart
    John Bolton — who opposes the use of force in Syria — says it’s a mistake that Obama didn’t just go ahead.

    Charles Johnson @Green_Footballs
    Greenwald now drooling (I love using his own word) over the possibility of an “Occupy-Tea Party” alliance to fight the tyrant Obama.

    Devin @devbost
    From the uproar, you’d think Obama’s golf outing interrupted John Boehner’s plans to return immediately to Washington or something.

    And this pair of dozys
    Yesterday
    Ron Fournier @ron_fournier
    100% of Constitution agrees “@chucktodd: 79% believe Pres. Obama should be required to get Congress’ approval before acting in #syria
    Today
    Ron Fournier @ron_fournier
    Americans, well-tired of cynical DC gamesmanship, hear of latest on #Syria and collectively declare from their final summer respite: “WTF?”

    • 27 jziglar
      September 1, 2013 at 8:58 am

      Like I said many times Obama Derangement Syndrome is a very serious condition. These people are insane.

      • 28 99ts
        September 1, 2013 at 9:05 am

        Consumed by hate and anger – the pundits just can’t believe that the last thing the President wants to do is talk to them. They hate that he talks directly to the people and/or to the local news people. They think they have some god given right to be the intermediary between the President and the US population. Change came to Washington and the media got what it so justly deserved.

        Karma is virtually every news source saying what the President was going to do – and not one having any idea whatsoever.

  9. 30 Ladyhawke
    September 1, 2013 at 8:43 am

    IF ONLY OUR FECKLESS MEDIA COULD JUST GET BACK TO THE ‘BASICS’

    PRINCIPLES OF JOURNALISM

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    1. JOURNALISM’S FIRST OBLIGATION IS TO THE TRUTH

    Democracy depends on citizens having reliable, accurate facts put in a meaningful context. Journalism does not pursue truth in an absolute or philosophical sense, but it can–and must–pursue it in a practical sense. This “journalistic truth” is a process that begins with the professional discipline of assembling and verifying facts. Then journalists try to convey a fair and reliable account of their meaning, valid for now, subject to further investigation. Journalists should be as transparent as possible about sources and methods so audiences can make their own assessment of the information. Even in a world of expanding voices, accuracy is the foundation upon which everything else is built–context, interpretation, comment, criticism, analysis and debate. The truth, over time, emerges from this forum. As citizens encounter an ever greater flow of data, they have more need–not less–for identifiable sources dedicated to verifying that information and putting it in context.

    ==========================================

    Principles 2 through 9 here ….

    http://www.journalism.org/resources/principles

  10. 33 dotster3
    September 1, 2013 at 8:45 am

    And THEN! he went to play GOLF!!! (scoffed by NBC’s Kristen Welker who was obviously personally offended by this outrageous outrage!)

  11. 34 sherijr
    September 1, 2013 at 8:47 am

    Good morning & happy Sunday TOD… my question for today- as I’ve seen 2 comments this morning regarding this: Do you think POTUS would still strike Syria if Congress votes against it? I don’t believe he would- even though I think legally he can- I believe he is asking Congress to participate in this decision because it is their job to vote on behalf of the citizens they represent- which means he is asking us to weigh in also. I just don’t believe he’d go ahead if they vote no.

  12. 35 sherijr
    September 1, 2013 at 8:50 am

    Also I see msn headlines this morning are all about how Congress is now “tackling Syria question” – which means they’re all over the Sunday political shows… certainly they are not in DC actually working. Funny how the media fails to mention that.. we’re led to believe they’re doing their jobs while sitting on teevee pontificating and basically expressing their ODS.

  13. 36 Don
    September 1, 2013 at 8:55 am

    I mean really! Who goes and play golf after announcing to the world that oh, never mind, we won’t be going to war after all. I’m half expecting that one of these days President Obama is going to be walking out of church and Vice President Biden is going to walk up to him and whisper in his ear that “all family business” has been taken care of.

  14. 37 dotster3
    September 1, 2013 at 9:04 am

    Pro gun lobby promoting legislation and litigation to force colleges and universities to allow concealed guns on campuses. Here’s the current state of affairs, which states now allow guns on campus—-parents might want to know this…..

    http://www.armedcampuses.org/

    • 38 Don
      September 1, 2013 at 9:09 am

      I went to college, Florida A&M University to be exact, as a parent I would not want a fireman anywhere near a college campus.

      • 39 99ts
        September 1, 2013 at 9:31 am

        interesting word completion there Don 🙂

        • 40 Don
          September 1, 2013 at 9:33 am

          I just caught it, thanks, I think.

          • 41 99ts
            September 1, 2013 at 9:39 am

            I always see it – the instant after I press “post comment”.

            Your thoughts were well understood – I cannot imagine living in a world where carrying weapons (at college or anywhere else) – concealed or otherwise – was legal. Our one major massacre stopped the growing ownership of guns in its tracks – I guess the difference was we didn’t have a 2nd amendment to stop the control of gun ownership.

  15. September 1, 2013 at 9:15 am

    Secretary Kerry: “In the last 24 hrs, we have learned, hair samples and blood samples have tested positive for signatures of Sarin.”

  16. 43 Ladyhawke
    September 1, 2013 at 9:17 am

    Conciliatory rhetoric as ruthless strategy – Syria edition

    By Smartypants

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    What the President just did today was put the United States Congress on the “committee” to decide what we’ll do about Syria’s use of chemical weapons. That is a bold move that seems to have caught most everyone off guard. But it totally eliminates the position of “arm chair quarterbacks” who have taken up residence on the sidelines bitching about what is happening on the field.

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    http://immasmartypants.blogspot.com/2013/08/conciliatory-rhetoric-as-ruthless.html#comment-form

    • 44 Ladyhawke
      September 1, 2013 at 9:19 am

      Here a great comment at this post. This pretty much sums it up.

      AnonymousSeptember 1, 2013 at 6:53 AM

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      If you’re unsure about the “debate on Syria”, here’s all you need to know …

      Liberals / Conservatives / The Media: “This is outrageous! Why is Obama not considering military action to help the innocent people of Syria?”

      Liberals / Conservatives / The Media: “This is outrageous! How dare Obama consider military action without consulting with Congress first. Why is he acting like all other presidents? It’s unconstitutional! Who shall save us from this tyrant?”

      Liberals / Conservatives / The Media: “This is outrageous! How dare Obama consult with Congress before considering military action. He’s not showing leadership like all other presidents. He’s weak. Consulting Congress is not technically required by the Constitution.”

      ————————————

  17. 45 Vicki
    September 1, 2013 at 9:22 am

    The Impotence of the NYTimes. Fluff and puff pieces on Chris Quinn having failed miserably, The Times is now going to hit pieces on Bill deBlasio written mostly about the bile from Quinn’s co-collaborators who gave Michael Bloomberg his stolen third term.

    Nine days until the Primary. This will probably get uglier and uglier. For those interested, I will keep you updated.

    • September 1, 2013 at 9:46 am

      Thanks, Vicki, for keeping us up to date on this. I hope the NYT piece backfires big time on them and BiBlasio gets so far over 40 percent that he wins the primary outright. Nothing would make me happier than to see their political spins become more and more irrelevant. If the Times has got real news to report, fine. But this slanted reporting to support one candidate over another truly stinks and I hope New Yorkers see through it.

      • 47 Vicki
        September 1, 2013 at 10:42 am

        I think we do, jackieg. 3 polls last week had BdB at 36%, 32% and 29%. Same polls had Quinnberg at 21%, 19% and 17%. Bill Thompson swinging with all his might at deBlasio calling him “Bill de Liaro” is struggling, barely beating Quinn. The city-wide effort is to force a runoff election. I think that effort will succeed and then Bill de Blasio will win in a landslide.

  18. 48 Linda
    September 1, 2013 at 9:44 am

    Mike Rogers is beating up Gloria Borger….

    He told her ” This is not a reality TV show “

    • 49 Jovie
      September 1, 2013 at 9:51 am

      She deserves to be beat up she was very rude To John Kerry. She’s in a bad mood or something, high pitched voice and all.

  19. 50 Jovie
    September 1, 2013 at 9:47 am

  20. 51 MightyPamela
    September 1, 2013 at 9:49 am

    Morning tea is served! 😆

    • 52 HZ
      September 1, 2013 at 10:54 am

      GM, my beautiful MightyPamela, and we can serve it with my lovely red new tea set. Just got it yesterday. It is beautiful. Plus some delicious and expensive tea from a wonderful tea house. I will be happy to serve my TOD family as our MightyPamela enjoys the first cup.
      ((((((((((( Love you so much, MightyPamela))))))))))))

      I am sipping my Organic Peppermint for the tummy. HZ

      • 53 MightyPamela
        September 1, 2013 at 11:50 am

        I humbly and gratefully accept your of fresh tea in your lovely new tea service!! What a joy it would be to sit with you, HZ, to pray and meditate with you, and watch the day unfold!! Many blessings!! {{{{{HZ}}}}}


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