This and That

@petesouza: Pres Obama pokes his head through a hole where visitors pose as the President at the Women’s Rights Park


In 2010 President Obama greeted Sgt. First Class Cory Remsburg at the National Naval Medical Center in Bethesda, Md., where Remsburg was recovering from severe injuries sustained in Afghanistan

NYT: President and Soldier: 3 Meetings, And a Lesson in Resilience

Three times, mainly by chance and in very different circumstances, Sgt. First Class Cory Remsburg has met President Obama.

They were introduced near Omaha Beach in France in 2009, when Sergeant Remsburg was part of a select Army Ranger group chosen to re-enact a parachute drop for celebrations of the 65th anniversary of the D-Day landings in World War II.

The second meeting came less than a year later at a military hospital outside Washington, where Mr. Obama was stunned to see among the wounded troops from Afghanistan a familiar young man — now brain-damaged, a track of fresh stitches across his skull, and partly paralyzed.

The third time was two weeks ago in a private visit in Phoenix, where Sergeant Remsburg did something that neither Mr. Obama nor military doctors would once have predicted: he stood up and saluted his commander in chief.

More here


The University of Buffalo:


Henninger High School, Syracuse:





@petesouza: Pres Obama at the Women’s Rights Natl Historical Park in Seneca Falls


This is how the President deals with a heckler…..pure class:






More in the morning

85 Responses to “This and That”

  1. August 22, 2013 at 10:40 pm

    What a great day. I love when PBO is on the road.

  2. 5 taiping1
    August 22, 2013 at 10:41 pm

    Hi. Thanks to Chips and BTs.

  3. August 22, 2013 at 10:41 pm

    Fact ….

  4. 8 bojoflo
    August 22, 2013 at 10:45 pm

    This guy is Beautiful. ♥

  5. 9 MightyPamela
    August 22, 2013 at 10:45 pm

    Woa! You guys rolling em out tonite!!

  6. 10 vitaminlover
    August 22, 2013 at 10:48 pm

    My President is EXTREMELY handsome.

  7. 12 Layla
    August 22, 2013 at 10:49 pm

    Yeah!!!! Now we get a new post every 27 comments!

  8. August 22, 2013 at 10:49 pm

    ‘Sup guys.

    Um wow! Ben Afleck as Batman!!! I’m not a big DC Comics girl, but still, when I read this news all I thought was NO! NO! NO! I’m betting big fans are aghast.


  9. 15 anniebella
    August 22, 2013 at 10:50 pm

    I love POTUS, and I know he can’t handle the heckler like FLOTUS did, but oh how I wish he could.

  10. 21 Elly in Maryland
    August 22, 2013 at 10:52 pm

    Re previous thread – thanks for introducing me to Kara Vallow – I don’t tweet but went to her twitter site and it’s really funny. Tweets are about my attention span these days.

    • 22 Layla
      August 22, 2013 at 10:57 pm

      Here is one of hers..
      kara vallow ‏@teenagesleuth 22h
      My fave trollism: BLINDLY following Obama. Like we were all crashing into each other and the furniture as we fumbled to fill out the ballot.

  11. 23 Elly in Maryland
    August 22, 2013 at 10:54 pm

    Is President Obama still speaking this week on the anniversary of Dr. King’s speech? I planned a day off work on Wednesday so I could go but haven’t really heard that much about it.

  12. 27 amk for obama
    August 22, 2013 at 11:21 pm

  13. August 22, 2013 at 11:29 pm

  14. 30 desertflower
    August 22, 2013 at 11:34 pm


    Congressional Republicans’ Clear Choice on Immigration: Stand With Pro-Reform Majorities or Cave to Anti-Immigrant Extremists

  15. 31 vcprezofan2
    August 23, 2013 at 12:43 am

    Well, I’m back as promised, tho not sure for how long.

  16. August 23, 2013 at 1:08 am

    POLL: GOP Risks Further Alienating Women With Government Shutdown

    A new poll conducted for Republican members of Congress shows the public opposed to a government shutdown over funding Obamacare by 71-29, according to the Washington Times‘ Byron York. Though a slim majority of Republican men support a shutdown, women who identify with the GOP oppose it by a 32 percent margin.

    “The electorate expects Congress to govern,” pollster David Winston, whose firm conducted the poll of 1,000 registered voters between July 31 and August 1, told the National Review earlier this month…..

  17. 37 99ts
    August 23, 2013 at 4:54 am

    Cruz is done – Rich Lowry is in love again

    Lowry loves all that Harvard education ( unless is it given to a Black President)

  18. 38 Layla
    August 23, 2013 at 6:11 am

    Good Friday morning all! Off to work! Everyone have a fantastic day!

  19. 39 Dudette
    August 23, 2013 at 7:02 am

    Good Morning TOD Family!

    Yesterday was Claude DeBussy’s birthday. This piece of music is one of the many gifts he left humanity.
    Curl up under the covers and listen to this for a spell. Enjoy your day!

  20. 40 Dudette
    August 23, 2013 at 7:18 am

  21. August 23, 2013 at 7:48 am

    Good morning, TOD. Clair de lune—Brings back SO many memories. That was my final recital piece (after 7+ years of piano lessons). “Used” to have it memorized. 🙂 Bet I would have a difficult time even getting through it now–with the music!

    O/T: Caught the end of an interview yesterday on our local NBC station–John Duncan has a challenger…..36 years old……..local businessman and “committed Chrristian”. He went on and on about the condition of our country and how we need good stewards…….if things don’t get turned around in Washington, we won’t have the United States of America for his generation and his children’s generation blah blah blah. I did catch that he is a member of the very large Baptist church in town. The church we call “Six Flags Over Farragut”. Pastor has a boat named ‘Visitation’ (so when he’s on the boat, he’s said to be “on visitation”), has a small plane and beautiful facilities. However, the church does little when it comes to making a difference in our community and changing many lives, thankfully the exact opposite of our church.
    I will keep you posted about this young man. He did talk about how ONE family has had that seat for 5 decades and it’s time for a change, some new blood, new ideas. That is certainly true!!!!!

  22. 45 Dudette
    August 23, 2013 at 7:49 am

  23. 46 donna dem 4 obama
    August 23, 2013 at 8:19 am

    This should be interesting.

    • August 23, 2013 at 9:41 am

      Yess it should be…

      I wish i could be there as part of the festivities and as part of another historic moment in the struggle to move our country Forward…

      however…my stamina is not up to what it should be to last thru the day of marching and standing…i seem to miss many of these moments these days…but i understand that the NAACP will be hosting a virtual march..i hope to at least participate in that..

      For those who can attend this historic comemeration..Keep on Keeping on…

  24. August 23, 2013 at 8:22 am

  25. 49 donna dem 4 obama
    August 23, 2013 at 8:27 am

  26. 50 Dudette
    August 23, 2013 at 8:27 am

  27. 51 donna dem 4 obama
    August 23, 2013 at 8:30 am

    Speakers for Saturday’s march include: House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.), Myrlie Evers-Williams, the widow of civil rights leader Medgar Evers, Attorney General Eric Holder and the families of both Emmett Till and Trayvon Martin.

    “Fifty years ago, the tone of the march was jobs and freedom,” said King. “In a real sense, 50 years later, it’s still jobs, freedom but (also) justice.”

    • 52 sjterrid
      August 23, 2013 at 5:11 pm

      Donna, I will be there tomorrow. A friend, from the OFA group in South Jersey that I belong to, and I are going to the march on Saturday. We were able to get on the bus from the Willingboro’s Chapter of NAACP that is leaving from Mt. Laurel at 3:30AM for Washington.

  28. 53 Dudette
    August 23, 2013 at 8:31 am

  29. 54 hopefruit2
    August 23, 2013 at 8:36 am

    • 55 desertflower
      August 23, 2013 at 8:40 am

      Then they have no balls or moral compass to do the right thing. As far as I’m concerned, this is just more whining.

    • 57 Ladyhawke
      August 23, 2013 at 9:29 am


      SENATE – Oath of Office

      I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; and that I will well and faithfully discharge the duties of the office on which I am about to enter: So help me God.


      The Speaker administers this oath:

      “I, (name of Member), do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; and that I will well and faithfully discharge the duties of the office on which I am about to enter. So help me God”

  30. 58 desertflower
    August 23, 2013 at 8:38 am

    Good early morning everyone:) March on Washington is TOMORROW!! I’m so excited for everyone that will be able to attend this historic event! Please, please, please give the rest of us some news of what’s happening tomorrow…will be thinking of all of you, and hope that TODer’s that are going can meet up and see each other. I’m certain that it will be a life changing, empowering event. I’m with you all in spirit!!

  31. 59 hopefruit2
    August 23, 2013 at 8:48 am

    Please let this be true 🙂

  32. August 23, 2013 at 8:49 am

    Suggestions for Videos

    Rachel Maddow was in Elizabeth City, NC last night and did her entire show pretty much on the GOP Voter Suppression down there and why Elizabeth City is Ground Zero for the GOP Voter Suppression Efforts:

    This video shows how the local Election Board closed the polling place on the college campus, made a precinct of 9000 people, and moved all of them to a facility with 35 parking spots. Maddow showed the dangerous road that the students would have to walk to in order to vote.


    This one is a background piece of how North Carolina’s voter participation has changed.


    The background of the student case at the center of the GOP Voter Suppression.


    Explaining why the college town has been targeted.


    How the DOJ is on the Voter Suppression…….and an interview with Congressman Butterfield, who used to be on the NC Supreme Court.


  33. August 23, 2013 at 8:53 am


    Rev. Al’s POLITICSNATION will be 2 hours tonight for the commemoration of the 50th Anniversary on the March on Washington.

  34. August 23, 2013 at 8:54 am

    Where is the white liberal outrage on stop-and-frisk?


    by James Braxton Peterson | August 21, 2013 at 5:05 PM

    Growing up as a teenager in Newark, N.J., the summers were often correlated with the dread of enhanced police presence in the city brought on by the infiltration of New Jersey State Troopers.

    This practice of state police support in Newark continues to this day. Much like the entire nation, the citizens of Newark accept the appearance of enhanced security without much discussion about privacy and/or civil liberties especially significant given the state’s long history of racial profiling and the plethora of police stops casually justified as “driving while black.”

    What we refer to now as “stop and frisk” has been tactical practice for urban police departments for nearly all of my life. That it has been formalized and institutionalized in the 21st century only serves to strengthen law enforcement’s reliance on it and faulty justifications for it.

    Maybe if you’ve never been profiled; if you’ve never been stopped for no apparent reason, questioned about your destination, tousled and frisked, searched and put up against a wall or a car; maybe if you’re not painfully aware of how many of these kinds of encounters (between police and innocent citizens) have ended in the deaths of too many innocent victims to tally here; maybe if you have no connection to the utter humiliation of being publicly detained by police for no reason, then it might be difficult to comprehend the underpinnings of privilege in the recent discourses on the NSA, Manning, Snowden, and the unchecked access to our digital lives.

    The left’s outrage directed at the Obama administration in the wake of Edward Snowden’s leaking of classified information has been palpable and well documented in both print and television media


    Yet how can we have a discussion about civil liberties and security, privacy and safety without connecting it to the physical surveillance to which black and brown Americans have been historically subject? In short, why aren’t the champions of Snowden, Manning, and others saying anything at all about stop-and-frisk and Stand Your Ground laws/policies. They have been and remain silent on the historical and perpetual encroachment upon the civil liberties – the freedom to walk the streets without being detained or shot – of black and brown citizens of the United States.


    • 65 hopefruit2
      August 23, 2013 at 9:03 am

      Since this article came out and was circulated all over Twitter and elsewhere, snot-nosed Chris Hayes decides he’s going to bring on David Sirota to discuss Stop & Frisk yesterday. ROTFLMAO!!!

      Hey Chrissy, don’t be a pissy. We know exactly where your privileged heart and mind is, so don’t come pandering while staying put on your high horse where civil liberties are concerned.

  35. 66 dotster3
    August 23, 2013 at 8:57 am

    Absolutely disgusted that all news outlets showing/reporting on Coburn talking about impeachment of President Obama—–for what?????——and other Repubs who are talking about it at their town halls, trying to make it seem like a possibility or widespread opinion. This is about as low as one can go in American politics. President Obama has conducted himself with unprecedented integrity while in office. Is this Koch controlled forces behind this effort? We were on a road trip to Indy last weekend and drove under many overpasses with the deranged and manipulated Overpass Impeach Obama kooks on them with big signs—–Impeach and Be Free—-7 or 8 nuts on each one. I gave 2 thumbs down thru the windshield and noticed no one was acknowledging them with honks or anything. But it is infuriating and sinister that they are there—–and that Repub congressmen are stirring up all the haters during their Aug. breaks AGAIN.

    • 67 hopefruit2
      August 23, 2013 at 9:16 am

      It’s getting to be a very predictable pattern of GOP & MSM coordinating their anti-Obama narratives, and it’s unlikely that too many people are even taking this nonsense seriously. Don’t be surprised if in a few weeks (or even days), you see a slew of polls claiming that a significant proportion of people feel that President Obama should be impeached. That’s how they coordinate their stories – they use these reports and polls as propaganda and try to drive a narrative.

      The problem is that people are increasingly seeing for themselves that the garbage the MSM, GOP and polling data put out there does not match reality. Yesterday PBO had an impressive crowd of 7200K people in a non-election year, with just 2-days notice. There were pictures of people lined up on the sidewalk waiting to get tickets the day before. Yet Buzzfeed had a headline today saying that PBO was trying to “win back” students. Excuse me? “Win back?” He didn’t lose them. Certainly not in the North East where he was giving his speech. So this is how the MSM puts out a lot of trash and fewer and fewer people are buying into their dirty manipulative games.

    • 68 carolyn
      August 23, 2013 at 9:21 am

      That’s interesting…..disgusting…..but that story didn’t even make the OKC evening or nightly news Thursday. After a while, it’s just….”Oh, that’s Coburn again. Move on.” He talks out of about four sides of his mouth…..supposed to be the president’s big buddy, etc.

    • 69 arkluvspbo
      August 23, 2013 at 6:39 pm

      Dotster, I recently did a cross country trip with my mother and we stopped off in Little Rock ARK (!) to visit the Clinton Presidential Library…there was obviously a section on his impeachment, and I was absolutely disgusted how the republicons are playing the same stupid games they were 15 years ago!! They STILL haven’t gotten the message. When remembering all that Clinton did during his 8 years and then what bush did during HIS 8 years — it’s mindboggling how many steps backward we have taken.

  36. August 23, 2013 at 8:57 am

    Syria and Snowden’s Shared Protectorate: A Question of Conscience

    Thursday, August 22, 2013 | Posted by Spandan C at 5:41 PM

    What’s the “civil libertarian” response when one of the movement’s contemporary ‘heroes’ evades the reach of American law shares his protectorate with governments that use chemical weapons on their own people? Evidently, silence. With the Syrian government blocking UN investigators from finding the truth about their apparent chemical weapon use with assistance from Russia, the deafening silence from the self-appointed defenders of civil liberties like Glenn Greenwald and Laura Poitras should tell you all you need to know about their real intentions and priorities.

    Why the silence? I suppose you don’t want to start something up with the power that is now protecting the holder of the classified information that you hope will catapult you to fame and fortune. After all, you wouldn’t want to force Russia to decide between protecting Edward Snowden and protecting the Syrian regime, would you?

    And where is the great hero Edward Snowden in all of this? Is the courageous defender of liberties too much of a coward to speak out against his and Syria’s common protectorate? Just what form of civil libertarian conscience allows one to stay silent in the face of mass murder protected by the government of the country they take refuge in just so that they don’t have to face a legal trial at home? Under what definition of civil liberty does avoidance of a criminal trial under full and complete due process of law outweigh wholesale slaughter of thousands by their government?

    For all the moral force claimed by the Greenwald and Snowden Left, where is the call for them to stand up and denounce Russia’s open backing of Syria? For that matter, where is the call for Ed Snowden to leave Russia’s protection in protest?

    You won’t see any of it – not from Greenwald and not from Snowden. You won’t see any of it because if they truly cared about civil liberties and government tyranny, Snowden would be on a plane out of Russia tonight, even if that means he has to stand trial here at home. If they cared even the slightest bit about civil liberties and state sponsored tyranny, Glenn Greenwald’s Guardian page would be lighting up in condemnation against Russia.

    Yet, none of that. Glenn Greenwald and Edward Snowden don’t want their hero status to be damaged by such pesky things as mass chemical attacks against middle easterners. No, they’re too important for that.


    • 71 hopefruit2
      August 23, 2013 at 9:07 am

      More and people are beginning to openly confront the hypocrisy that pervades the Libertarian left – and are demanding answers from them – something that the MSM just refuses to do altogether. If the Libertarian left insist on doing their covert operations with the intention of damaging PBO while assisting their friends in the GOP, and are seeking public support but are not prepared to explain the public what exactly they intend to accomplish and why they are doing this, then they risk going the way of the Sarah Palins and Michele Bachmanns in very short order.

    • 72 desertflower
      August 23, 2013 at 9:15 am

      EXCELLENT comment on this thread!

      6 •Reply•Share ›
      Xantar • 10 hours ago −
      First he signed the Lilly Ledbetter Fair Pay Act, and I didn’t say anything because I’m not a woman intending to sue my employer for pay discrimination.

      Then he saved the auto industry, and I didn’t say anything because I’m not an autoworker.

      Then he closed the prescription drug donut hole, and I didn’t say anything because I’m not a senior citizen who uses prescription drugs.

      Then he overturned Don’t Ask Don’t Tell, and I didn’t say anything because I’m not in the military.

      Then he got the Defense of Marriage Act struck down, and I didn’t say anything because I’m not gay.

      Then he got passed guaranteed issue health insurance, and I didn’t say anything because I don’t have a pre-existing condition.

      Then he kept food stamps and unemployment insurance funded, and I didn’t say anything because I don’t rely on either to survive.

      Then he ended the Iraq War, and I didn’t say anything because I wasn’t deployed to Iraq.

      Then he signed the new START treaty, and I didn’t say anything because I don’t live in an area where there is likely to be a nuclear strike.

      Then the NSA built a huge database which they can use to find out which phone numbers I have called but only if they have a warrant which they will only get if they’re interested in me for some reason,


  37. 73 Dudette
    August 23, 2013 at 9:09 am

    I love Nina Turner!

  38. August 23, 2013 at 9:14 am

    Scott Walker’s Sand Grab: Wisconsin Wants a Piece of the Fracking Boom, No Matter Who Gets Hurt


    On the night that he was elected governor of Wisconsin in 2010, a beaming Scott Walker told the hundreds of supporters sandwiched into Waukesha’s little Country Springs Hotel ballroom that his state was “open for business.” It was shorthand for his promise to slash taxes and lay waste to state regulations, all to create a quarter of a million new jobs by the end of his fourth year in office. But halfway through Walker’s term, Wisconsin had added only a quarter of the promised jobs, it ranked 44th in private-sector job creation, and private-sector wages were falling at twice the average rate nationally. A non-partisan audit of the Wisconsin Economic Development Corp., a job-creation agency Walker started, found it repeatedly broke state laws in its first year. Still, among the detritus of the Republican governor’s job creation efforts, one sector of Wisconsin’s economy has been roaring: the sand-mining industry.

    The hydraulic fracturing boom that has transformed the plains of North Dakota into an industrial mecca observable from space is fueled by tiny grains of silica sand from southwestern Wisconsin’s hillsides. In fracking, “frac sand” is used to prop open fissures in the earth, creating an escape route for natural gas. A single well can require 2,000 tons of sand over its lifetime. As fracking sites have proliferated across the nation, silica sand mines and processing facilities have too, with Wisconsin far and away the leading provider of frac sand. Just five years ago, there were fewer than 10 sites in the state; today, the state has greenlit a little more than 100, most of which are operational. Rich Budinger, the president of the Wisconsin Industrial Sand Association, estimates that the industry has brought 2,000 jobs to the state so far.

    Republicans, who control the state Senate and House, want the boom to be even bigger. Their 2013 budget set aside $6.4 billion for freight rail and roadway improvements, which Walker said would allow companies to export frac sand in even greater quantities. At an event in Sparta, a small city in west-central Wisconsin, he said that improving rail transport makes the shipping of frac sand “a lot more environmentally sound … because you can connect it right there and not put as much burden on county and town roads and things of that nature.”


  39. August 23, 2013 at 9:16 am

    Key House Republican asks Holder to back off in Texas
    By Steve Benen
    Fri Aug 23, 2013 8:44 AM EDT.

    As we discussed yesterday, Attorney General Eric Holder is challenging new voting restrictions imposed by Texas Republicans, hoping to use the remaining provisions of the Voting Rights Act to protect Texans’ access to the ballot box. GOP officials, not surprisingly, weren’t pleased with the move, but there was one reaction in particular that I found interesting.

    But Mr. Holder’s moves this week could endanger that effort, said Rep. F. James Sensenbrenner Jr., Wisconsin Republican, who led the latest reauthorization of the Voting Rights Act in 2006.

    “The lawsuit would make it much more difficult to pass a bipartisan fix to restore the heart of the VRA that the Supreme Court struck down earlier this year,” Mr. Sensenbrenner said.

    He said he had spoken with Mr. Holder and asked him to withdraw the lawsuit.

    It’s worth noting for context that Sensenbrenner may be a conservative Republican, but he’s also earned a reputation as a long-time supporter of the Voting Rights Act. Indeed, among GOP lawmakers, it’s probably fair to say the Wisconsin Republican is the VRA’s most reliable ally. When Sensenbrenner says he’s working on a legislative fix in the wake of the Supreme Court’s ruling, I’m inclined to believe him.

    That said, for Holder to back off now would be crazy.


  40. 77 hopefruit2
    August 23, 2013 at 9:19 am

  41. 78 sherijr
    August 23, 2013 at 9:20 am

    So three things already irritating me this morning on the front page of msn.com – “Obama heckled in NY” (bfd) Then theres a poll about whether the Justice Dept should go after Texas on their new voting laws- heres the question/choices

    The Justice Department says it will go after Texas’ voter ID law despite a Supreme Court decision making that task harder.

    Should Texas keep its voter ID law?

    81 %

    Yes; we need safeguards against voting fraud.
    181,521 votes

    19 %

    No; it makes voting more difficult for some people.
    43,599 votes

    Its a dishonest poll as we all know how little ‘voter fraud’ exists. So that’s the second thing that irked me this morning… the third thing: A Republican Congressman has or is submitting legislation for a “Stand your Ground” law – in Maryland, my new home. Hopefully that is not going to happen here- no way no how.

    So good morning anyway TOD… Happy Friday 😉

    • 79 hopefruit2
      August 23, 2013 at 9:32 am

      Morning sherijr! Yes, msn.com is a product of Comcast – the owner of NBC and MSNBC. In other words – a GOP supporting corporation. I’m not surprised at their garbage propaganda (and I can tell you aren’t either). Heh, I guess they forgot to report that the said heckler was booed and completely drowned out by the crowd so much so that even PBO could not get the crowd to stop booing? We have enough video footage of the actual events that PBO did yesterday. So all their blowing hot air about “hecklers” or whatever will not make a difference.

      • 80 sherijr
        August 23, 2013 at 9:35 am

        Yep- not surprised as you say HF… everyday they have some form of propaganda on their site.. I rarely click on their links or vote in their stupid polls – though I did vote in todays. I sure don’t remember major headlines when Bush was repeatedly heckled wherever he went by the majority of people.. but then as we know the media is the gop. Nice to see you 🙂

  42. 81 desertflower
    August 23, 2013 at 9:23 am

    Short, direct. http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/political-animal-a/2013_08/the_conservative_case_for_wast046546.php

    Conservatives and wasteful spending go hand in hand….goes to their “govt. is useless’ mantra

  43. August 23, 2013 at 9:24 am

    GOP ‘getting perilously close’ to impeachment madness
    By Steve Benen
    Fri Aug 23, 2013 8:00 AM EDT.

    When fringe figures like Rep. Kerry Bentivolio (R-Mich.) talk about impeaching President Obama without cause, it’s a mild curiosity. When U.S. senators push the same idea, it’s more alarming.

    “I think those are serious things, but we’re in serious times,” said Oklahoma Sen. Tom Coburn during a town hall in his home state. “And I don’t have the legal background to know if that rises to ‘high crimes and misdemeanors,’ but I think you’re getting perilously close.”

    The remark came after an attendee called the Obama administration “lawless” and asked, “who is responsible for enforcing [Obama’s] constitutional responsibilities?”

    Coburn apparently has given this a fair amount of thought, telling constituents, “What you have to do is you have to establish the criteria that would qualify for proceedings against the president, and that’s called impeachment. That’s not something you take lightly, and you have to use a historical precedent of what that means.” He added that he believes “there’s some intended violation of the law in this administration.”


    And what, pray tell, has the president done that Coburn perceives as possible “high crimes”? In keeping with the recent trend, the Oklahoma Republican never got around to explaining what the grounds for impeachment would be. Coburn mentioned that he’d heard a rumor about the Department of Homeland Security choosing to “ignore” background checks for immigrants, but he did not elaborate.


  44. 83 Dudette
    August 23, 2013 at 9:29 am

  45. 84 Dudette
    August 23, 2013 at 9:30 am

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