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  1. 1 Anjo
    July 14, 2013 at 5:47 pm

    Hi All, be positive and vote, vote vote, find out who is not registered and get them registered voting is the only solution the days of 15% turnout are dead

  2. 2 GGAIL
    July 14, 2013 at 5:50 pm

    Chipsticks & UT, you have done great work today.
    I’m still grappling with my emotions.

  3. 3 donna dem 4 obama
    July 14, 2013 at 5:50 pm

    America’s Family!

  4. 6 Alycee (@jazziz2)
    July 14, 2013 at 5:51 pm

  5. 7 MightyPamela
    July 14, 2013 at 5:56 pm


  6. 9 jacquelineoboomer
    July 14, 2013 at 6:00 pm

    UT – Thanks for providing this “safe room” for all of us, today, on behalf of Chips. Appreciate it.

  7. July 14, 2013 at 6:01 pm

    I going out to our Life Group meeting. Our current study is about grace. I need the reminder tonight.

    Be sure someone finds Joy Reid’s last segment…..her comments about the four freedoms FDR talked about. she focused on the freedom from fear. It was awesome.

  8. 17 Alycee (@jazziz2)
    July 14, 2013 at 6:04 pm

    Joy Ann Reid will NOT be getting a show any time soon.

    • 18 Indie Liberal
      July 14, 2013 at 6:05 pm

      She is the truth and it scares TPTB to death.

    • 19 Ladyhawke
      July 14, 2013 at 6:15 pm

      Joy was preaching. That was a fabulous closing commentary. It was a brilliant and powerful statement. Hopefully, that segment will be posted here so that everyone can see it. I just love Joy, she is a treasure.

  9. July 14, 2013 at 6:04 pm

    This has been a sad but predictable day. After hearing the heartbreaking verdict, we temporarily came together. But like clockwork, people move on to disagreements and their typical “I didn’t donate & vote for POTUS for weak response or excuses”.

    Seriously ?!? I mean WTF!

    We can’t get our act together to focus on what we need to do to get Justice for Trayvon Martin, and what we need to do to rollup our sleevesto attack overt Voter Suppression efforts by the #GOP?

    People seem to forget that

    1. Zimmerman case is under investigation by the DOJ, so it would be inappropriate for POTUS to comment on it

    2. POTUS focus was on Trayvon’s Family, and acknowledging their pain. it’s not about us!

    3. He is the PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES, not just one group or another. As a leader, he doesn’t get the LUXURY of speaking his mind. I’m sure he’s angry. i’m sure he’d love to let loose. But he can’t! Just as Ben Bernanke has to be careful what he says, or markets go nuts. President Obama needs to measure his words so that the spotlight is not on him and what he said, but rather the issue at hand.

    This is WHY Republicans can win. They turn up and vote and they’re unified.

    We seriously need to get our act together and already work on the 2014 election. And if I see another comment about 2016, I seriously will lose it!!

  10. 28 dotster3
    July 14, 2013 at 6:05 pm

    I thought this had some key points on the gap between the law and peoples’ perception of fundamental justice

    • 29 anniebella
      July 14, 2013 at 6:15 pm

      I’m sorry, I don’t give a dam what the jury focus on, the fact is if Zimmerman had stay in his car and allow the police to do their job, Trayvon would be alive. So I guess according to that white jury, only Zimmerman had a right to defend himself.

    • 30 theo67
      July 14, 2013 at 7:52 pm

      Not sure what “justifiable use of force” is needed to let a boy walk home from the store with his snacks…

    • 31 nathkatun7
      July 14, 2013 at 10:32 pm

      I wish people and the media had said of the OJ Simpson that the jury “focused on reasonable doubt.” Yet these same people called the predominantly black jurors stupid, though the evidence in the OJ Simpson case clearly left room for “reasonable doubt.” In any case, today I am not in a mood to listen to media idiots who are looking for excuses to cover this gross injustice. It’s not as if this was the first time this happened when Blacks are victims of racist violence and murder.

  11. 32 desertflower
    July 14, 2013 at 6:09 pm

    FYI …pass it on!

  12. 36 Lynn
    July 14, 2013 at 6:15 pm

    I so wish I could live up to the grace, dignity and pure humanity of our First Family.

  13. 37 arapaho415
    July 14, 2013 at 6:17 pm

    From a Wisconsin attorney:

    “In Florida, if self-defense is even suggested, it’s the states obligation to prove it’s absence beyond a reasonable doubt(!). That’s crazy. But ‘not guilty’ was certainly a reasonable result in this case. As I told in friend in Tampa today though, if you’re ever in a heated argument with anyone, and you’re pretty sure there aren’t any witnesses, it’s always best to kill the other person. They can’t testify, you don’t have to testify, no one else has any idea what happened; how can the state ever prove beyond a doubt is wasn’t self-defense? Holy crap! What kind of system is that?”

    Sorry, Jovie, Global and others in Florida. It looks like it *was* Florida.

    Watched maybe 20 minutes of cables’ wall-to-wall Zimmerman trial coverage, but it looks to me like they are trying to apply a national standard on a state law that needs to be changed. Sheesh.

    • 38 99ts
      July 14, 2013 at 7:42 pm

      I don’t believe it was Florida. I believe it was racist in the extreme. When the prosecutors think there is “no chance”, when a light colored person is allowed to follow and kill a black kid & people BELIEVE his story – it is racist. It could have been in lots of other states. The black guy asked to be killed. There was overwhelming evidence that this was NOT self defense. If the jury didn’t see that – they were colored in their sight.

    • 39 nathkatun7
      July 14, 2013 at 10:37 pm

      Where were all these people in the OJ case! All these are excuses to hide the blatant racism! I am not buying any of them.

  14. July 14, 2013 at 6:34 pm

    I don’t know if many of you read Juanita Jean’s blog. She is really an attorney in Richmond, Texas, and is deeply involved with the Democratic Party there. She has helped keep me sane through two elections. And she is hilariously funny, especially on the topic of Texan politics. This post, however, is not funny. She has some good points to make about the trial, the jury, and the system.


    • 41 desertflower
      July 14, 2013 at 6:56 pm

      Always love to read juanitajean:)

      It is like pulling teeth to get people to vote in non-Presidential years, when judges, DAs and sheriffs are elected. Barack Obama can change the world, but who your local sheriff is will most certainly change your life.

      I live in a majority minority county yet we elected a man to be sheriff who called the President of the United States of America, “that clown in Washington.” Every single judge we have is white, old, and Republican with the exception of one, who is female. Our District Attorney, also white, old and Republican, could not try his way out of a paper bag.

      Elections have consequences.

      Please do not vote just the top of your ballot. Find out something about the candidates who decide if your child is safe walking home from the store with Skittles and ice tea. They are all our children. And until we can protect them, the job is not done.

    • 42 vcprezofan2
      July 14, 2013 at 7:15 pm

      Thanks Maryl, I tend to forget juanitajean until someone shares. So how was your first week of ss?

      • July 14, 2013 at 7:42 pm

        Thanks for asking! It went well, considering. It’s really supposed to be remedial but many families who really want enrichment signed up. I have about 8 first graders and 11 second graders, so it is a pretty diverse group! I also have two autistic children. Luckily I have a great aide for the class and they are trying to find the money for a one on one aide for one of the autistic students. The first week was math, and we concentrated on learning math facts like Partners of Ten through games and songs. This week it will be doubles, even and odd, counting by 2s, and maybe counting by 5s. It’s two hours of high energy activity. The kids are very funny. I think a tiny bit of progress was made.

  15. 46 daisydem
    July 14, 2013 at 6:36 pm

    Do we get to know the names/backgrounds/educational levels/professions of the jurors? I would like to/need to know.

    • 47 desertflower
      July 14, 2013 at 6:45 pm


      The jurors, none of them black, include a Hispanic woman with eight children, an animal rescuer who once had a concealed-weapons permit, and a woman who said she had used Mr. Martin’s death as a cautionary example for her two adolescent children. Of the four alternates chosen for the case, two were men, and all were white. Nearly all of the jurors have children.

      That the final jury was made up solely of women was unusual, legal experts said. But what might resonate more in this racially charged case is that all but one of the jurors is white.

      Diana Tennis, a defense lawyer based in Orlando, said the chances of having a six-person jury without any black jurors were high given the demographics of Seminole County, where 11 percent of the population is black. But should Mr. Zimmerman, who is Hispanic, be acquitted by a jury that includes no blacks could become a point of contention in the trial’s aftermath, she said.

    • 49 Layla
      July 14, 2013 at 6:47 pm

      A few threads back Chips posted a link to this info

  16. 50 desertflower
    July 14, 2013 at 6:37 pm



    Our new 21st Century Glass Steagall Act once again separates traditional banks from riskier financial services. And since banking has become much more complicated since the first bill was written in 1933, we’ve updated the law to include new activities and leave no room for regulatory interpretations that water down the rules.

    The bill will give a five year transition period for financial institutions to split their business practices into distinct entities – shrinking their size, taking an important step toward ending “Too Big to Fail” once and for all, and minimizing the risk of future bailouts.

  17. 51 Alycee (@jazziz2)
    July 14, 2013 at 6:46 pm

  18. 56 Anjo
    July 14, 2013 at 6:51 pm

    Spent the day with my Canadian cousin who now teaches community college in NY and she said something which is very true, Republicans think and strategize long term Democrats react that’s why we have gerrymandering, VRA, tampongate, Trayvon etc etc. It is time to start planning and strategizing long term, 2010 taught everyone that you can never take your eye off the ball, yes we will get weary, yes we will be disillusioned, yes we will get angry but that’s why there is more than one of us, when ALL of us pull together the strong will help the weak, walk for the tired, speak for the sleepy, we are all in this together GET UP AND GET GOING as a Canadian I can’t vote but I can encourage, encourage, encourage, remember that darkest hour is just before dawn; despite this verdict we can’t give up now, PBO, Trayvon’s family and all the other disenfrancished, discriminated against folks are depending on all of us to be their voice, we are the voices of the voiceless, let us not so despair that we lose the war after giving up at the setback of one battle…FORWARD to a better tomorrow a better Country a better People

    • 57 desertflower
      July 14, 2013 at 6:58 pm

      Yes, Anjo:) Tend the garden.

    • 58 Lynn
      July 14, 2013 at 7:43 pm

      I plead guilty, Anjo. I’m one of those who raised the roof in the sixties. Oh the heady days…. Got a nasty letter from jeh/nixon and annual visits from the fbi for ten years (scared the heck out of my grandma when I was living with her for a few months.)

      Now…READY TO ROLL…just a bit slower.

    • 59 amk for obama
      July 14, 2013 at 9:00 pm

      Yup. Left throws fits and votes easily without any long term strategy or discipline. Persistence is not its strong suit.

  19. 60 Nena20409
    July 14, 2013 at 7:00 pm

    JimmY Carter in 2009…….GZ, Fox and what RWNJs are doing are Not coming from a Vacuum………

    Keith Olbermann Covered it as Only him could

    Twisted Sister sand: We’re not Gonna Take it……….
    People across this nation is beginning to say Enough……Their Objection has got to be Louder than what the teabaggers did in 2009 and 2010.

  20. 68 Allison
    July 14, 2013 at 7:01 pm

  21. July 14, 2013 at 7:02 pm

    Ok, needed a break, so watching The Addams Family movie. IMHO, Raul Julia and Anjelica Hurston as Gomez and Morticia were just absolutely SPOT ON casting. The rest of the supporting cast are just as perfect as the two leads. I even love the sequel.

    Great chemistry between the leads, and the casting and campy yet not too campy feel of it was a winner in my book.

    My fav scene are of course of Mortica and Gomez:

    • 74 Layla
      July 14, 2013 at 7:19 pm

      I just love that you do that!

      • July 14, 2013 at 7:33 pm

        I’ve learned to compartmentalize thing Layla. I’ve always had a hard time getting to sleep at night. I think it’s because I always have something on my mind and so until my mind is settles, I can’t get to sleep. So on days like today and late yesterday I have to unwind my mind are I’ll never get to sleep. I’m a movie person, so movies do that for me

    • 81 nathkatun7
      July 14, 2013 at 11:20 pm

      You are smart to take a break in order to maintain your sanity. I am afraid to check my BP .

  22. 82 utaustinliberal
    July 14, 2013 at 7:02 pm

    Beautiful image.

  23. 83 57andfemale
    July 14, 2013 at 7:11 pm

  24. 84 proudmemberofglobalzero
    July 14, 2013 at 7:12 pm

    Happening now in DC

  25. July 14, 2013 at 7:12 pm

    This is AWESOME!

    • 87 CEB
      July 14, 2013 at 7:28 pm

      Just the opposite will happen. Zimmerman is a hero to the racist. There will be job offers, free beer, bills paid and a starring role at the next republican convention. This is a good day for Zimmerman and the haters. Neither will feel remorse or any suffering.

      • 88 Dudette
        July 14, 2013 at 7:34 pm

        Yeh, you’re probably right. But the letter’s still great!

      • 89 Layla
        July 14, 2013 at 7:51 pm

        There are many more people in the US that will regard him and his so called supporters as pure racists and a child killer.

      • 90 nabsentia23
        July 15, 2013 at 7:56 am

        Sorry, but I have to disagree with this statement. These racist idiots will abandon him the moment his 15 minutes of fame are up.

        Besides, he’s not “one of them.” He just acted as if he was.

  26. 91 utaustinliberal
    July 14, 2013 at 7:16 pm

  27. July 14, 2013 at 7:31 pm

    My thoughts are with the martin family for their son is beyond pain but it is the living that has to suffer. I knew from the beginning that he would be aquitted. I am not a lawyer. BUT

    1) it took an out cry for him to be charged
    2) venue for trial was not changed. picking jurors from said town who were all female and almost white without black or asian
    3) Judge was a republican
    4) prosectur did a namby-pamby job.

    i have not followed the case closely as I told one of my coworkers cos it was rigged from thr beginning so why should I listen to that. Justice shall prevail. They are just waiting for us to riot. We should not give them the satisfaction. Satisfaction should be at the ballot box. PBO is wise he knows there are powerful forces behind the scenes trying to make the county ungovernable.

  28. 103 Dudette
    July 14, 2013 at 7:34 pm

  29. 106 Nena20409
    July 14, 2013 at 7:34 pm

    Diana Ross

    No Mountain High Enough

  30. 108 Dudette
    July 14, 2013 at 7:39 pm

    • 109 arapaho415
      July 14, 2013 at 7:45 pm


      I’ve only been there once, at night.

      The sound of the water rushing over the falls was terrifying.

      People need to keep in mind the awesome power of Mother Nature.

      • 110 Dudette
        July 14, 2013 at 7:49 pm

        Me too arapaho, but in the daytime. We rode the Maid of the Mist boat right up to the falls. It was the exhilarating experience to say the least! Never occurred to me how amazing it would look from directly above until now. It’s just breathtaking!

  31. 111 arapaho415
    July 14, 2013 at 7:39 pm

    Not to be a Debbie Downer here, but really???

    I know I’m in the minority here in not being a Hillary fan.

    Her advisers Mark Penn and Lanny Davis really give me the creeps, and I think it’s disrespectful for Huma to wear this dress. She knew what she was doing — getting attention.

    I sympathized with Huma when Gawker and who knows wherever else questioned if her pregnancy was a publicity stunt when Weiner’s tweets surfaced; totally uncalled for speculation, irrelevant, and barring a miscarriage the world would know soon enough.

    But she should leave FLOTUS out of Weiner’s campaign, unless Michelle wants to be involved (which I doubt).

    • 112 Layla
      July 14, 2013 at 7:43 pm


    • 113 lisalovesobama
      July 14, 2013 at 7:45 pm

      That’s what the Clintonites are gonna do. They criticize everything about the Obama administration, but then copy everything about the administration. If Billary runs, you betcha they’ll try to copy all of PBO’s campaign moves. 🙄 I don’t know who they think they are fooling…. Probably only themselves.

      • July 14, 2013 at 7:52 pm

        Did Hillary tell her to go out and buy the same dress or did she swipe it out of Michelle’s closet before she left? This doesn’t amount to anything.

      • July 14, 2013 at 8:00 pm

        I seriously doubt anybody is going to vote for Weiner because of what his wife wears. If Abedin wants to wear what The First Lady wears so be it. There’s no patent on the dress and there’s nothing wrong with taking a cue from an actual trendsetter when it comes to style. I don’t think New Yorker’s are going to get the two mixed up.

    • 116 Lynn
      July 14, 2013 at 8:03 pm

      Considering the not so news ragemachine, do you suppose the hillary thing is being shoved to divide+conquer, arapaho?

      • 117 lisalovesobama
        July 14, 2013 at 8:31 pm

        Two things:

        1) it’s a good strategy. Since 2008 there have been two main camps: the Obots and the “grass is always greener” PUMAS. the big problem for the PUMAS is that the Obots, outnumber them, outclass them and outcompete them.
        2) I don’t know if the pukes are smart enough to pick up on the divide because, hey, they are the ones who see that very soon Hispanics will become the majority and they can’t seem to get their tails together and pass immigration reform.

        But in all honesty,if I were a republican strategist, I would be working this angle like nobody’s business because it is very fruitful.

    • 118 nospin
      July 14, 2013 at 9:06 pm

      It’s just a dress.

      • 119 Titti
        July 15, 2013 at 7:32 am

        Saw a lady on London Bridge wearing this dress!! Thought I knew the lady because something appeared familiar but it was actually the dress!

  32. 120 dotster3
    July 14, 2013 at 7:40 pm

    And anyone who manages to make the verdict about President Obama, and finds fault with his calming words, needs to be sent to the moon—-permanently. They have “issues” and are in the way.

  33. 122 Dudette
    July 14, 2013 at 7:41 pm

  34. 123 Dudette
    July 14, 2013 at 7:42 pm

  35. July 14, 2013 at 7:44 pm

    Melba Moore

    Lean on Me

    • 125 Dudette
      July 14, 2013 at 7:45 pm

      Ooooh Melba Moore! Love her! Remember her fondly from back in the day.
      She and Ben Vereen were my two favorite Broadway stars in the 70’s!

      • July 14, 2013 at 7:52 pm

        I’ve always liked Melba Moore as well and especially liked that particular song.

      • 127 Lynn
        July 14, 2013 at 8:07 pm

        No wonder you have the music all night long! I hang with you almost every night/morning/crack of dawn, dear lady. Lurkin’ all the way.

        • 128 Dudette
          July 14, 2013 at 8:14 pm

          Alrighty! Well thanks for coming in to hang for a while!
          We’ve got plenty of others on DJ duty tonight though and they’re doing an OUTSTANDING job! 🙂

          • 129 Lynn
            July 14, 2013 at 8:30 pm


            Looking forward to it, Dudette. As an insomniac, my partner is used to me climbing the walls without input. You keep me sane many a night, good friend.

  36. 130 lisalovesobama
    July 14, 2013 at 7:48 pm

    • 131 Lynn
      July 14, 2013 at 8:12 pm

      Ok. Now you’ve got me, lisa. This is the song that is part of me and my anthem for my deaf sister….in sooooo many ways. And she finally called me today!!!!

      • 132 lisalovesobama
        July 14, 2013 at 8:20 pm

        My mom bought me their collection of CDs for my 19th birthday some time ago. This is one of my favorites too. 🙂

        • 133 Lynn
          July 14, 2013 at 8:41 pm

          This always calms my rather RAGING temper. Thanks for sharing, lisa. We did have some really talented folks back in the ‘old’ days. PS. I still have that album and tell your mom ‘THANKS’ from me.

          • 134 lisalovesobama
            July 14, 2013 at 8:57 pm

            😆 I will, Lynn.
            Ps- I’m no spring chicken myself. I’m getting up there. Notice I said ” for my 19th birthday some time ago.”? I’ll officially reach that age in your twenties when you start saying you’re 23 every birthday thereafter in a few weeks. God. I want to be 20 again.

  37. July 14, 2013 at 7:49 pm

    Nina Simone-I Wish I Knew How It Would Feel To Be Free

    I wish I knew how
    It would feel to be free
    I wish I could break
    All the chains holding me
    I wish I could say
    All the things that I should say
    Say ’em loud say ’em clear
    For the whole round world to hear
    I wish I could share
    All the love that’s in my heart
    Remove all the bars
    That keep us apart
    I wish you could know
    What it means to be me
    Then you’d see and agree
    That every man should be free

    I wish I could give
    All I’m longin’ to give
    I wish I could live
    Like I’m longin’ to live
    I wish I could do
    All the things that I can do
    And though I’m way over due
    I’d be starting a new

    Well I wish I could be
    Like a bird in the sky
    How sweet it would be
    If I found I could fly
    Oh I’d soar to the sun
    And look down at the sea
    Than I’d sing cos I know – yea
    Then I’d sing cos I know – yea
    Then I’d sing cos I know
    I’d know how it feels
    Oh I抎 know how it feels to be free
    Yea Yea! Oh, I know how it feels
    Yes I know
    Oh, I know
    How it feels
    How it feels
    To be free

  38. 136 Dudette
    July 14, 2013 at 7:50 pm

  39. 137 lisalovesobama
    July 14, 2013 at 7:56 pm

    • 138 desertflower
      July 14, 2013 at 8:05 pm

      See this guy? He went to high school with my daughter ….loved him in this movie…loved him in Friday Night Lights, too:)

      • 139 lisalovesobama
        July 14, 2013 at 8:08 pm

        Hey DF! I thought of you when I posted it. Several months ago I remembered you telling me that. He’s fantastic and has a beautiful singing voice. 🙂

        • 140 desertflower
          July 14, 2013 at 8:18 pm

          {{{{lisa}}}}} You tend to repeat yourself when you get “older”…opps! He’s adorable, and he DOES have a very nice singing voice!

  40. 145 arapaho415
    July 14, 2013 at 7:56 pm

  41. 148 Dudette
    July 14, 2013 at 7:58 pm

  42. 149 Dudette
    July 14, 2013 at 7:59 pm

  43. July 14, 2013 at 8:01 pm

    Someday We’ll all be FREE!

  44. 153 Dudette
    July 14, 2013 at 8:03 pm

    Excellent music selections everybody! 😀 😀 😀

  45. 154 lisalovesobama
    July 14, 2013 at 8:06 pm

  46. 155 Dudette
    July 14, 2013 at 8:06 pm

  47. 161 Layla
    July 14, 2013 at 8:11 pm

    This is a very soothing thread, thank you everybody!

  48. 162 lisalovesobama
    July 14, 2013 at 8:17 pm

    Truer words were never spoken, we’re only equal in death. I love Les Mis. Is a commentary on the inequalities of society. Victor Hugo published it in 1860 and it’s still tru today.

  49. 163 Mellesia Barnett
    July 14, 2013 at 8:20 pm

  50. 164 yardarm756
    July 14, 2013 at 8:20 pm

    Another yardarm e-mail

    Subject: Fwd: Muslim Terrorists
    Not trying to offend anyone, but thought the email was worth forwarding.

    Everyone seems to be wondering why Muslim Terrorists are so quick to commit suicide.
    Let’s have a look at the evidence:
    – No Christmas
    – No television
    – No nude women
    – No football
    – No pork chops
    – No hot dogs
    – No burgers
    – No beer
    – No bacon
    – Rags for clothes
    – Towels for hats
    – Constant wailing from some idiot in a tower
    – More than one wife
    More than one mother in law
    – You can’t shave
    – Your wife can’t shave
    – You can’t wash off the smell of donkey
    – You cook over burning camel sh*t
    – Your wife is picked by someone else for you
    – and your wife smells worse than your donkey
    Then they tell you that “when you die, it all gets better”??
    Well no sh*t Sherlock!….
    It’s not like it could get much worse

    They’re not happy in Gaza ..
    They’re not happy in Egypt ..
    They’re not happy in Libya ..
    They’re not happy in Morocco ..
    They’re not happy in Iran ..
    They’re not happy in Iraq ..
    They’re not happy in Yemen ..
    They’re not happy in Afghanistan ..
    They’re not happy in Pakistan ..
    They’re not happy in Syria ..
    They’re not happy in Lebanon ..


    They’re happy in Australia .
    They’re happy in Canada .
    They’re happy in England ..
    They’re happy in France ..
    They’re happy in Italy ..
    They’re happy in Germany ..
    They’re happy in Sweden ..
    They’re happy in the USA ..
    They’re happy in Norway ..
    They’re happy in Holland .
    They’re happy in Denmark .

    Basically, they’re happy in every country that is not Muslim
    and unhappy in every country that is!


    Not Islam.
    Not their leadership.
    Not themselves.


    AND THEN; They want to change those countries to be like….

    Excuse me, but I can’t help wondering…
    How damn dumb can you get?

  51. July 14, 2013 at 8:23 pm

  52. 174 Dudette
    July 14, 2013 at 8:30 pm

    • 175 desertflower
      July 14, 2013 at 8:46 pm

      Was it you that posted these drawing before? Absolutely stunning. My daughter does these drawings and they are AMAZING! So proud of her, because I can barely draw a stick figure…have NO idea where she got that incredible talent from!

      • 176 Dudette
        July 14, 2013 at 8:59 pm

        Yes, it was quite a while back. Good memory, df! 🙂

        Would love to see some of your daughter’s work. This branch of portraiture really fascinates me. I’m with you back at stick figure stage, but even some people who do stick figures make a living as artists. Me? Not in a million yrs! 🙂

  53. July 14, 2013 at 8:34 pm

    i just also don’t understand the fascination with the Clinton’s we in Arkansas have seen how they left the Democratic party in just a bad shape. They milked all they can get from Dem supporters and left no strategic planning for the growth of the party its just annoying to see how they are treated like they really cared about other people. Arkansas was at least moderate and the only part that was repubs was in the Northwastern part of the state. We now have retugs about 90% of the congress that’s why you can see Mike Pryor turning himself like a pretzel his father would have stuck with Dem principles

  54. 178 sherijr
    July 14, 2013 at 8:36 pm

    when I moved into my house 7 months ago, the yard had been overgrown for over two years… we had to cut our way onto the porch to move our belongings in when we arrived. Periodically I’ve gone outside w/ my sons and cut and bagged. Today I took my rage outside and between my 14 yr old son and I, we chopped, cut, sawed, weeded and bagged every single mess outside. I feel better for that.. but I will not stop being angry about this ‘verdict’ ever. I appreciate the President’s statement.. he is a wise and loving man and I believe that he always has American’s best interests at heart. He is a black man in this country too, and what he knows is if folks went out and got violent- it would be only black folks that would pay the price for that. We have to turn our anger and sorrow into smart action.. and I know we will do just that and we will succeed.

  55. July 14, 2013 at 8:36 pm

    Well, I’ve spent the whole day wondering what to write after the verdict. Can’t say I’m surprised, but we as black folks must be proactive. We have to stop waiting for these fairweather supporters to back us up. We waited while the oppressive hands gutted our voting laws trying to stifle our voices, bought out our economic struggle,succeeding in making us a permanent and throwaway underclass. And now, the Florida court has affirmed that my life and other black men’s lives are as worthless as a Enron investment. Were foreigners in our own country, where even the actual foreigners are treated better than us. We have to start this new movement. Women didn’t allow men to be the head of their movement. Gays and Lesbians didn’t allow straight people to be the head of their movement. We shouldn’t allow anyone white to be the head of ours. All we have is us. And we need to make sure it is us that keeps it going. No more outsourcing this.
    And for all the white folks talking about why black people are not concerned with black on black crime, SHUT THE FUCK UP YOU IGNORANT SON OF A BITCH!!!!!! You, in your white elitist suburban enclaves do not know what grief we go through on black on black crime. You do not see us at every city council and ward meetings BEGGING the council members to extend after school programs to keep their kids off the streets. You do not see us rallying for stopping the violence and organizing gun turn in rallies and disbandment of streetgang rallies. You do not see us tell our children, ESPECIALLY our boys, our beautiful black boys that you must keep your head in the books. You do not see the black parents or parent working their asses off damn near killing themselves to ensure said child has the means to live like a normal kid and not a struggling refugee in his own country. No, what you see is on that media box where majority white pundits who have never in their lives lived in the sticks pontificate and opine profusely and stupidly on a subject they know shit about.
    I’m tired. I’m TIRED. I’m 24, a graduate of college, achieved my paralegal certification, work two part time jobs (Hopefully I get this job as a front end processor at a law firm) never been arrested, never been suspended, never been in detention, never been written up, never gotten a speeding ticket, is friendly and caring and adoring, does not only have rap music as my only repitore of music, and yet, and YET, because I am a black male, my life is worth less than a dogs life to some in this nation. They let a 17 year olds killer get off because of that.

    I’m tired of accepting every excuse from white people about what is and what isn’t racism. LIKE YOU KNOW!?? YOU DON’T!!!! Its why I laugh at this notion of “reverse racism” Its like the tooth fairy, Santa Claus and the Easter Bunny, IT DOESN’T EXIST!!!!!!! There hasn’t been one white person that was hung in a tree and left their for months letting the crows consume their flesh because they were white. There has never been an instance where because they were white, the man of the house was late at night accosted from his home, his wife raped, his children beaten and the man ends up strung up and hung while the rest of the family watches as their house burns down. There has never been an instance where a white person is tailed by police because he is in a nice car or lives in a nice neighborhood. Never an instance where a white person has REPEATEDLY been turned down for jobs because of his race. I said REPEATEDLY, not in the case of those firefighters where they weren’t hired because of a quota. My understanding of that was that they had other departments willing to accept them but declined because they wanted to work at THAT one. We, as black folks, had a larger problem. You have never had your women repeatedly called ugly and fat when you actually aren’t on both counts. You have never been accused of being dangerous just because you showed anger and raised your voice. You have never ever had to see a cop’s siren behind you and grip the wheel and slow to the speed limit and agonize until he passed. You have never had to think that your child going out into the world may cause him to end up dead or maimed or in jail because of being him. We do not need your lectures on racism, because it would be like me lecturing women about the affects and feelings of premenstrual cycles. WHAT THE FUCK DO I KNOW ABOUT IT!? I feel the same way toward this.
    I’m tired that I have to stoop lower at times not to seem imposing to white folks. I’m tired of having to lower my voice or not show anger because it somehow frightens white folks. I’m tired of not being allowed to be human. I’m tired of having to hide my displeasure or voice my opinion because it makes white folks uncomfortable. I’m sorry, but I wan’t you uncomfortable now. I cannot do anything to assuage your discomfort. Black folks need to stop trying to make ourselves more palatable, more acceptable. Its not our problem you fear us. IT IS YOU!!! You have that problem, not me. You need to have that therapy session. Black folks, if these folks are frightened of you for no reason, it isnt your fault. If they can’t be in the same room without quaking, its not your fault. If they are having psudo-sexual fantasies about you raping any of their women, ITS. NOT. YOUR. FAULT. Its their problem, you can’t fix it.
    Trayvon Martin couldn’t fix it either. He got suspended like a typical teenager. He cursed, he made sexual and crude remarks, he listened to hip hop, and wore hoodies like a. typical. teenager. In all those characteristics, he exudes the character of every male teenager on this earth, including a teenaged George Zimmerman. He was doing what he was supposed to do. Zimmerman wasn’t. Zimmerman was the one sick with the poison of bigotry, of disdain, of fear. Zimmerman got out of that car. Zimmerman approached him. Zimmerman shot and killed him and Zimmerman got off because he was able to stoke those fears of us to a panel of majority white women. My attitude is that maybe we shouldn’t give a damn about asuaging it anymore. Let them fear me. Let them fear what sleeping giant this court arose. Let the sermon on the mount ring in their ears every day white supremacy power wanes and the power of ALL people comes through……
    3“Blessed are the poor in spirit, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.

    4“Blessed are those who mourn, for they shall be comforted.

    5“Blessed are the gentle, for they shall inherit the earth.

    6“Blessed are those who hunger and thirst for righteousness, for they shall be satisfied.

    7“Blessed are the merciful, for they shall receive mercy.

    8“Blessed are the pure in heart, for they shall see God.

    9“Blessed are the peacemakers, for they shall be called sons of God.

    10“Blessed are those who have been persecuted for the sake of righteousness, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.

    11“Blessed are you when people insult you and persecute you, and falsely say all kinds of evil against you because of Me.12“Rejoice and be glad, for your reward in heaven is great; for in the same way they persecuted the prophets who were before you.

    • 180 Layla
      July 14, 2013 at 8:48 pm

      Tears rolling down my face as I read this!

      • 181 LDS
        July 14, 2013 at 9:42 pm

        Thank you, anotherslyfox: you said what I felt all day. I could not move this morning. I knew what the outcome would be that is why I refused to watch the circus trial. I still had joy and praise in my broken soul as I stayed closed to my young males who are too young to explain this travesty to them. But I dread the day their father will have to sit them down and tell them they are endangered species and can be hunted down like an animal any given day of their lives. As I held their hands today, a part of me never wanted them to grow up because I cannot be with them to protect them from racism. I may not be there when someone stares at them in a way that makes them feel like they have done something wrong. I will protect them with my love while they are young and raise them to be strong men, confident men who will not ever have to apologize for the color of their skin…….ever!

    • 182 sherijr
      July 14, 2013 at 9:09 pm

      Well said Anotherslyfox. wellsaid

    • 183 CEB
      July 14, 2013 at 9:33 pm

      I embrace you, your words, your pain, your rage, your wisdom, and your resolve.

    • 184 arkluvspbo
      July 14, 2013 at 10:54 pm

      Bravo!!! Beautifully said. I am so sick and tired of the “black on black crime” meme, and why they bring it up is beyond reason…other than to justify their own racism. This isn’t even about that, it’s about an insecure petty tyrant who was so disgusted with himself and wanted to make a young black male pay for his frustrations.

  56. 185 Dudette
    July 14, 2013 at 8:39 pm


  57. 186 vcprezofan2
    July 14, 2013 at 8:40 pm

    Is this the Joy Reid ‘Trayvon’ segment that was referenced earlier, or is it something else?


  58. 187 Dudette
    July 14, 2013 at 8:44 pm

  59. 190 JER
    July 14, 2013 at 8:54 pm

    LIVE NOW: Zimmerman protest rally in Oakland, CA – http://www.cbsnews.com/liveFeed/widget.shtml

  60. 192 kasai
    July 14, 2013 at 9:09 pm

    (((((TODS)))) I’ve been like a zombie since the GZ’s verdict…

    But there’s some good news:-)

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