http://bit.ly/18dpKfG if this link works, you can see live streaming of the bears at work catching salmon in Katmai Nat’l Park (it worked before I brought it here, so fingers crossed, trying not to cry, I love bears so much!)
Hoping a salmon will jump into its mouth!! I really get a kick out of the seagulls, one tried to land on a bear, UhUh, not a chance!! Bears at work!! Very serious business… summer does not last long up there….. 😉
Quite frankly I think that people are not going to take mess off of Zimmerman or his ilk anymore. In general, people are standing up more against such mess. Someone will take him out. I know that sounds mean but many people have has enough of this form of bullying and intimidation. There is much less tolerance and people just don’t play that. Enough is enough. Period.
Sorry—-don’t like that comment. We are a civilized society, hopefully still a nation of laws. Please no “take him out” talk. We cannot devolve into such violent reactions.
Copied from the written instruction from the judge to the jury on Manslaughter charge:
MANSLAUGHTER
To prove the crime of Manslaughter, the State must prove the following two elements beyond a reasonable doubt:
1. Trayvon Martin is dead.
2. George Zimmerman intentionally committed an act or acts that caused the death of Trayvon Martin.
George Zimmerman cannot be guilty of manslaughter by committing a merely negligent act or if the killing was either justifiable or excusable homicide:
Each of us has a duty to act reasonably toward others. If there is a violation of that duty, without any conscious intention to harm, that violation is negligence.
The killing of a human being is justifiable homicide and lawful if necessarily done while resisting an attempt to murder or commit a felony upon George Zimmerman, or to commit a felony in any dwelling house in which George Zimmerman was at the time of the killing.
The killing of a human being is excusable, and therefore lawful, under any one of the following three circumstances:
1. When the killing is committed by accident and misfortune in doing any lawful act by lawful means with usual ordinary caution and without any unlawful intent, or
2. When the killing occurs by accident and misfortune in the heat of passion, upon any sudden and sufficient provocation, or
3. When the killing is committed by accident and misfortune resulting from a sudden combat, if a dangerous weapon is not used and the killing is not done in a cruel or unusual manner.
**In order to convict of manslaughter by act, it is not necessary for the State to prove that George Zimmerman had an intent to cause death, only an intent to commit an act that was not merely negligent, justified, or excusable and which caused death.
If you find George Zimmerman committed Manslaughter, and you also find beyond a reasonable doubt that during the commission of the Manslaughter, George Zimmerman carried, displayed, used, threatened to use, or attempted to use a firearm, you should check the appropriate box on the verdict form which I will discuss with you later in these instructions.
The definition of a Afirearm@ has been previously provided in these instructions.**
Zimmerman’s hateful friend coming up on HLN, and Lisa Bloom on MSNBC (no idea where her head has been about this case) – so I can’t un-mute to hear any dialogue from Joy Reid, on the latter network. I’ll spend my time praying that this jury doesn’t mess it up.
Lisa’s bloomed out in the wrong direction on this trial lately, from my POV, but I usually agree with Gloria Allred (who normally, also my view, works for the underdog).
Wow, when I look at Lisa Bloom, she does look like Gloria Allred. Most of the other attorneys on panels which she appears, usually disagree with her and give better answers. Yet, I see that MSNBC is giving her more air time, e.g. playing co-host to Craig Melvin yesterday.
For a long time, I was not confident in the Zimmerman trial. I was convinced they would find him not guilty. I’ve changed. I expect no worse than manslaughter charges. Today’s question affirms this for me. I will be surprised if he walks (though, not horribly shocked – just surprised).
Sometimes it seems like that is here already yardarm! Meanwhile – interesting that the media was predicting such violence if GZ was acquitted – from what I am reading the violence could well come from the “friends of Zimmerman” if he is found guilty. And still they say this is not about race – what stone are they hiding under.
That’s a heartbreaking statement to read. Equally heartbreaking, because my eyes are equally wide open, is that the night Zimmerman killed Trayvon, the now-fired Sanford Police Chief Lee wasn’t even going to press charges, until the national outcry.
Let’s all jointly send up good thoughts and prayers that there’s a guilty verdict.
Please don’t think like that. I think in the end the hearts and minds of humans with goodness in the soul will eventually overtake evil. I was one of the few to first believed that Zimmerman would be be acquitted, but now I am not so sure anymore. Regardless of the outcome, I’ve been impressed by how serious the jury are taking this case by meticulously going through all of the evidence.
as well as taking herself off the list of planetary billionaires, by giving away so much $$$, which at least she has rightly earned, and changed the way people see things at the same time!! She is brilliant! Was a personal friend of the lady I cared for over the years….
The crazy woman who thinks ALL women get to choose when to be pregnant (I have SO MANY friends that had their pregnancies decided by the Catholic Church – I’ll never forget one who cried for an hour at my kitchen table) – spent forever crying on twitter cause folks were mean to her – AND
She has now come up with a tweet that Zimmerman can’t be convicted! Talk about showing everything bad about yourself in one day!
AP uses old golf photo to accompany today’s golf story. Wonder what kind of Sasha singing performance would take place at a friend’s house—–that her parents attended tonight.
Obama tees off with Tony Kornheiser and Michael Wilbon, co-hosts of ESPN's 'PTI' talk show: http://t.co/Xb7DDVBtL6 -RJJ
I would hate to be on that jury. I think sometimes people forget that what we think is true and right, and what it is possible to actually give an opinion on, is determined by details in the law. Sometimes the law prevents juries from making common sense decisions.
I have tears in my eyes. He talked about his darling Tunch ALL THE TIME. I am so sad to hear this….and the way it happened, it just beyond tragic. Such pain in his heart. My thoughts go out to him.
Oh my – that is so sad – and not a good way to lose one’s favorite animal. I lost 2 cats being run over – so never had another until we moved to a much quieter location.
Evening guys. I’ve not been following the trial on TV. I have been following updates here and elsewhere. In fact, I’ve pretty much decided to ban any news programs until after the verdict comes in. So I’ve been spending my time doing other things and just getting out the house.
So I just saw The Heat with my sister. IT.WAS.FUNNY.HAS.HELL!!! If you haven’t seen it yet, go out and see it!
we saw it too, and i haven’t laughed that hard and that long in a long time. people should know in advance about the amount of f-bombs (extreme), and a lot of the humor is pretty low-brow, but man it is hilarious. bullock is great as the “straight lady” and melissa mccarthy has got to be one of the funniest actors around today.
agreed. there is DEF a lot of NSFW language, but no nudity, and not really much “gorish” volence.
It was funny as heck. Ya always know it’s a good movie when the audience is laughing so hard that you can’t even hear the next line. There was ALOT of those moments in this movie.
Speaking of laughing your butt off, we had the pleasure of seeing comedian Sinbad in concert last night! I haven’t laughed so hard in years…seriously! He has a quick, amazing mind and crazy ad-libbing skills. He even touched on the Trayvon Martin case expounding on the “stand your ground” law. Even though the routine was funny, it really gave you food for thought.
Recommending a movie, probably being shown at your local independent film theatre, called “20 Feet From Stardom.” It’s about back up singers who performed with some of the world’s biggest stars. Great music and great, though sometimes sad stories. Try to see it if possible.
Do the U.S. media have the hospital cover where Kate and William are waiting for their child? I mean no disrespect to the England royalty, but it doesn’t interest me one bit. Of course I hope it’s healthy but I’m not into them like that.
This is Emmett Till all over again! “The more things change, the more they remain the same.” For the parents of Trayvon, today their son was murdered again by our so called justice system. For all the parents of Black males the message is unmistakable: their children’s lives are not worthy two cents.
No these white ass people are sick, they are still fill with racism. Believe it or not. If Trayvon was a blond white boy Zimmerman would fry in prison. But the black kill deserve to die. They aren’t worth shit.
It really doesn’t matter! Neither violence nor nonviolence will alter the way Black lives are devalued in this country. On the other hand, we must never despair. We’ve gotten this far as a result of struggle and our refusal to surrender our humanity.
I am so effing angry and sickened by this – there is not a soul in this country that doesn’t know Zimmerman is guilty.. that Trayvon was an innocent child minding his own damn business and was murdered. I am sick of this shit. Sick of the racists in this country, and the filth they get away with.
Oh my god I am bawling my eyes right now. How the fuck is this justice where a 17 year old minding his own business get shot in his heart not be found guilty.
These Stand Your Ground laws brought to us by ALEC and the NRA need to be targeted. It was this law that enabled this travesty to happen. These states ALL have these laws!
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I guess we got a slight reprieve from the rain today even though the sun didn’t make an appearance. Definitely not having a drought this year.
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The truth of matter is that there will be more Zimmermans however…if he is convicted…this Zimmerman will be in jail
The Zimmerman mindset is definitely out there; has been for years. An acquittal would give license to that mindset.
Florida’s Stand Your Ground Law already allows that mindset.
Yeah, and it’s not just Florida. There are other states with some form of Stand Your Ground. I know that Georgia is one of those states.
THIS!!!
This.
http://bit.ly/18dpKfG if this link works, you can see live streaming of the bears at work catching salmon in Katmai Nat’l Park (it worked before I brought it here, so fingers crossed, trying not to cry, I love bears so much!)
Very cool MP! The one on the left keeps yawning!!!
Hoping a salmon will jump into its mouth!! I really get a kick out of the seagulls, one tried to land on a bear, UhUh, not a chance!! Bears at work!! Very serious business… summer does not last long up there….. 😉
Having shown my man your link – we will both be watching for hours!
I wish I had the data package that would allow me to! I would stay here until the Equinox!!
They do seem to just “hang around” with the mouth open – and suddenly a salmon. Great web cams
Quite frankly I think that people are not going to take mess off of Zimmerman or his ilk anymore. In general, people are standing up more against such mess. Someone will take him out. I know that sounds mean but many people have has enough of this form of bullying and intimidation. There is much less tolerance and people just don’t play that. Enough is enough. Period.
we cannot descend into violence…as King once said it is Non violence or Non existence…we must keep on our marching boots but we cannot start to HATE!
+ 1,000,000,000 …. although, it’s hard!
*CLAP…..CLAP….CLAP*
Resorting to violence would play right into their hands…makes them feel more justified in their feelings and actions.
Perfectly stated, pf!! Thank you.
smiling…yes…
Sorry—-don’t like that comment. We are a civilized society, hopefully still a nation of laws. Please no “take him out” talk. We cannot devolve into such violent reactions.
VL, emotions are running high, but please don’t bring that “take him out” stuff here, thanks.
Copied from the written instruction from the judge to the jury on Manslaughter charge:
MANSLAUGHTER
To prove the crime of Manslaughter, the State must prove the following two elements beyond a reasonable doubt:
1. Trayvon Martin is dead.
2. George Zimmerman intentionally committed an act or acts that caused the death of Trayvon Martin.
George Zimmerman cannot be guilty of manslaughter by committing a merely negligent act or if the killing was either justifiable or excusable homicide:
Each of us has a duty to act reasonably toward others. If there is a violation of that duty, without any conscious intention to harm, that violation is negligence.
The killing of a human being is justifiable homicide and lawful if necessarily done while resisting an attempt to murder or commit a felony upon George Zimmerman, or to commit a felony in any dwelling house in which George Zimmerman was at the time of the killing.
The killing of a human being is excusable, and therefore lawful, under any one of the following three circumstances:
1. When the killing is committed by accident and misfortune in doing any lawful act by lawful means with usual ordinary caution and without any unlawful intent, or
2. When the killing occurs by accident and misfortune in the heat of passion, upon any sudden and sufficient provocation, or
3. When the killing is committed by accident and misfortune resulting from a sudden combat, if a dangerous weapon is not used and the killing is not done in a cruel or unusual manner.
**In order to convict of manslaughter by act, it is not necessary for the State to prove that George Zimmerman had an intent to cause death, only an intent to commit an act that was not merely negligent, justified, or excusable and which caused death.
If you find George Zimmerman committed Manslaughter, and you also find beyond a reasonable doubt that during the commission of the Manslaughter, George Zimmerman carried, displayed, used, threatened to use, or attempted to use a firearm, you should check the appropriate box on the verdict form which I will discuss with you later in these instructions.
The definition of a Afirearm@ has been previously provided in these instructions.**
Thanks Bill – I’m glad the jury are studying the law and the evidence, rather than rushing to go home.
Zimmerman’s hateful friend coming up on HLN, and Lisa Bloom on MSNBC (no idea where her head has been about this case) – so I can’t un-mute to hear any dialogue from Joy Reid, on the latter network. I’ll spend my time praying that this jury doesn’t mess it up.
Until I looked at Lisa Bloom’s Wikipedia entry a moment ago I did not know her mother is Gloria Allred.
On her Twitter profile there are pics of mother and daughter, they have also appeared together on numerous television interviews that I can recall
Lisa’s bloomed out in the wrong direction on this trial lately, from my POV, but I usually agree with Gloria Allred (who normally, also my view, works for the underdog).
She’s mentioned it on TV.
It may have been Reliable Sources with Howard Kurtz or Morning Joe or Chris Matthews.
She annoys me, and I turn off the set or mute when she’s on.
Earlier Miss Bloom said that there was evidence for 2nd degree but intent was the issue that was difficult to prove in the scenario.
She’s lost credibility on this case with me.
I am trying to stay away from all the talk about the trial. And I knew who Lisa Bloom’s mother was, and I’m no fan of hers or her mother.
I just hope there is no trouble if they let him off. I rather everyone get prepare to get out and vote, vote, vote.
Wow, when I look at Lisa Bloom, she does look like Gloria Allred. Most of the other attorneys on panels which she appears, usually disagree with her and give better answers. Yet, I see that MSNBC is giving her more air time, e.g. playing co-host to Craig Melvin yesterday.
Dang!!
Why Schweitzer Didn’t Run
http://politicalwire.com/archives/2013/07/13/why_schweitzer_didnt_run.html
We’ll see what the Great Falls Trib has to say tomorrow.
As for “rust under the hood,” that’s coming from a loathsome GOP operative.
Its like wondering what Charles Colson or Lee Atwater would say about a nationally known and appealing Dem in the 1970s and 1980s.
This news is a let down.
For a long time, I was not confident in the Zimmerman trial. I was convinced they would find him not guilty. I’ve changed. I expect no worse than manslaughter charges. Today’s question affirms this for me. I will be surprised if he walks (though, not horribly shocked – just surprised).
https://twitter.com/seekerwisdom8/status/356190904517795841
If Zimmerman gets a pass it will be open season on blacks. 😦 I might even cancel my vacay to WI.
Sometimes it seems like that is here already yardarm! Meanwhile – interesting that the media was predicting such violence if GZ was acquitted – from what I am reading the violence could well come from the “friends of Zimmerman” if he is found guilty. And still they say this is not about race – what stone are they hiding under.
There are no stones. They are all out in the open screaming about their 2nd amendment rights.
Yardarm, WI could not be as bad as central FL. Except for a few pockets central FL is as unattractive as any place in the country.
There are a lot of isolated roads up there and people could disappear.
That’s a heartbreaking statement to read. Equally heartbreaking, because my eyes are equally wide open, is that the night Zimmerman killed Trayvon, the now-fired Sanford Police Chief Lee wasn’t even going to press charges, until the national outcry.
Let’s all jointly send up good thoughts and prayers that there’s a guilty verdict.
Let us pray.
I think you’ll be okay in Wi.——just don’t wear a Bears shirt.
Ha! You know it. I’ll just stay away from the small towns.
Please don’t think like that. I think in the end the hearts and minds of humans with goodness in the soul will eventually overtake evil. I was one of the few to first believed that Zimmerman would be be acquitted, but now I am not so sure anymore. Regardless of the outcome, I’ve been impressed by how serious the jury are taking this case by meticulously going through all of the evidence.
I wish I shared your optimism. I can’t because I’ve been thru a lot and, as I’ve said before, Emmitt Till was a friend of mine.
Totally off-topic here, but just how *great* is JK Rowling?
Youngsters these days toss off genius these days on everything short of a hangnail, but Rowling is the real deal.
And the GOP would have denied her and her baby food stamps when she hit a rough patch, had she been an American. Shameful.
And she pays high taxes – is happy to do so – and supports her country rather than running to where there are no taxes.
as well as taking herself off the list of planetary billionaires, by giving away so much $$$, which at least she has rightly earned, and changed the way people see things at the same time!! She is brilliant! Was a personal friend of the lady I cared for over the years….
Hard as it is, I am preparing myself for all possible verdicts – remember that juries have a way to surprise
Factbox: The six-woman jury deciding Trayvon Martin shooting case
http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/07/12/us-usa-florida-shooting-jurors-factbox-idUSBRE96B0WK20130712
The crazy woman who thinks ALL women get to choose when to be pregnant (I have SO MANY friends that had their pregnancies decided by the Catholic Church – I’ll never forget one who cried for an hour at my kitchen table) – spent forever crying on twitter cause folks were mean to her – AND
She has now come up with a tweet that Zimmerman can’t be convicted! Talk about showing everything bad about yourself in one day!
Thanks for the link Chips. It is an interesting group of women.
AP uses old golf photo to accompany today’s golf story. Wonder what kind of Sasha singing performance would take place at a friend’s house—–that her parents attended tonight.
And I am sure that FLOTUS is just “thrilled” (not) that the media is reporting on this event with Sasha tonight 🙄
I think Amy intended on linking to this article on Alex Okrent, who died 1 year ago today. Rest in peace, young man.
http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2012/12/30/magazine/the-lives-they-lived-2012.html?view=Alex_Okrent
I would hate to be on that jury. I think sometimes people forget that what we think is true and right, and what it is possible to actually give an opinion on, is determined by details in the law. Sometimes the law prevents juries from making common sense decisions.
John Cole of Balloon Juice is a big animal lover.
His most beloved cat – Tunch was killed today.
Here’s the thread:
http://www.balloon-juice.com/2013/07/13/rip-tunch/
I have tears in my eyes. He talked about his darling Tunch ALL THE TIME. I am so sad to hear this….and the way it happened, it just beyond tragic. Such pain in his heart. My thoughts go out to him.
Oh my – that is so sad – and not a good way to lose one’s favorite animal. I lost 2 cats being run over – so never had another until we moved to a much quieter location.
Yes. Woke up to that terrible news. That fat cat was the star of that blog. It was a horrible way to go.
oh no, oh no… i don’t know him, or Trunch, but I would be devastated if anything happened to my dear dear kitty.
Evening guys. I’ve not been following the trial on TV. I have been following updates here and elsewhere. In fact, I’ve pretty much decided to ban any news programs until after the verdict comes in. So I’ve been spending my time doing other things and just getting out the house.
So I just saw The Heat with my sister. IT.WAS.FUNNY.HAS.HELL!!! If you haven’t seen it yet, go out and see it!
we saw it too, and i haven’t laughed that hard and that long in a long time. people should know in advance about the amount of f-bombs (extreme), and a lot of the humor is pretty low-brow, but man it is hilarious. bullock is great as the “straight lady” and melissa mccarthy has got to be one of the funniest actors around today.
agreed. there is DEF a lot of NSFW language, but no nudity, and not really much “gorish” volence.
It was funny as heck. Ya always know it’s a good movie when the audience is laughing so hard that you can’t even hear the next line. There was ALOT of those moments in this movie.
Well, to be honest, and quite frankly, I am watching “Here comes Honey Boo Boo” Can’t help myself. It’s my guilty tv trainwreck watch pleasure.
read an interview with Johnny Depp and he said he watched Honey Boo Boo too. It’s a guilty pleasure for him
Hey Everyone!
Speaking of laughing your butt off, we had the pleasure of seeing comedian Sinbad in concert last night! I haven’t laughed so hard in years…seriously! He has a quick, amazing mind and crazy ad-libbing skills. He even touched on the Trayvon Martin case expounding on the “stand your ground” law. Even though the routine was funny, it really gave you food for thought.
Recommending a movie, probably being shown at your local independent film theatre, called “20 Feet From Stardom.” It’s about back up singers who performed with some of the world’s biggest stars. Great music and great, though sometimes sad stories. Try to see it if possible.
Do the U.S. media have the hospital cover where Kate and William are waiting for their child? I mean no disrespect to the England royalty, but it doesn’t interest me one bit. Of course I hope it’s healthy but I’m not into them like that.
https://twitter.com/Our4thEstate/status/356228998650531840
Yes We Can
THERE IS A VERDICT
Should be learned within the next 15 min
Read in not more than 15 minutes…. tune in
Some folks are going to bed relieved and some stunned.
A verdict has been reached in the Zimmerman case.
CNN says there’s a verdict.
Thoughts with Trayvon’s family right now.
I second that !!!!
My heart is so heavy. All thoughts with Trayvon, Sabrina, Tracy and Jahvaris.
I’m going to watch it on tv….be back after it’s read.
Verdict is in, I’m going to stay away from the tv. I’ll wait right here.
me too
All I have seen teaches me to trust the Creator for all I have not seen.
Ralph Waldo Emerson
Online here if wanted
http://www.wftv.com/s/zimmerman-blog/
So justice walks out the door again
Justice was not served. I’m so sad
It is a sad day.
So he was found not guilty. A black person life doesn’t mean anything. It’s just fine for our kids to be gun down.
It’s gonna get deep. Gun manufacturers are gonna start making a lot of money.
This is Emmett Till all over again! “The more things change, the more they remain the same.” For the parents of Trayvon, today their son was murdered again by our so called justice system. For all the parents of Black males the message is unmistakable: their children’s lives are not worthy two cents.
I DO HEAR U MY BROTHER. FORGIVE THE CAPS BUT I’M TORQUED. BET THAT MOFO POPS UP ON FAUX TV.
gunned down like dogs..
actually, they’d charge someone who killed a dog
All you can do is despair.
There is something sick in this country where you can kill a young black child and walk off scot free.
I just don’t even know what to say UT, this is a ****ing outrage.
yes it is Chips…..I am sick of all this crap!
I can’t stop crying….
My gut has been telling me that this was going to be the outcome but I held onto hope.
My thoughts and prayers are with the Martin Family
Crying right along with you Donna. Like a baby. I feel so unprotected in this country anymore.
I feel sick. This country is sick.
No these white ass people are sick, they are still fill with racism. Believe it or not. If Trayvon was a blond white boy Zimmerman would fry in prison. But the black kill deserve to die. They aren’t worth shit.
Jesus. What a fucked up country.
Please no violence, don’t give them what they want!
Jovie I don’t want any violence either, but right now I feel like……never mind.
It really doesn’t matter! Neither violence nor nonviolence will alter the way Black lives are devalued in this country. On the other hand, we must never despair. We’ve gotten this far as a result of struggle and our refusal to surrender our humanity.
I cannot breathe. I’m so incredibly sad for this family.
OMG my son just called to tell me they found Zimmerman not guilty.
I am so effing angry and sickened by this – there is not a soul in this country that doesn’t know Zimmerman is guilty.. that Trayvon was an innocent child minding his own damn business and was murdered. I am sick of this shit. Sick of the racists in this country, and the filth they get away with.
I am just sick and feel so much sadness for our country.
New post.
http://theobamadiary.com/2013/07/13/our-hearts-are-broken/
This is one incredibly fuck up country.
There can yet be one path to redeeming this. I see a civil suite ahead for GF!
Oh my god I am bawling my eyes right now. How the fuck is this justice where a 17 year old minding his own business get shot in his heart not be found guilty.
These Stand Your Ground laws brought to us by ALEC and the NRA need to be targeted. It was this law that enabled this travesty to happen. These states ALL have these laws!
http://www.theatlanticwire.com/national/2012/03/23-other-states-have-stand-your-ground-laws-too/50226/
Alabama
Arizona
Georgia
Idaho
Illinois (The law does not include a duty to retreat, which courts have interpreted as a right to expansive self-defense.)
Indiana
Kansas
Kentucky
Louisiana
Michigan
Mississippi
Montana
Nevada
North Carolina
Oklahoma
Oregon (Also does not include a duty to retreat.)
South Carolina
South Dakota
Tennessee
Texas
Utah
Washington (Also does not include a duty to retreat.)
West Virginia
This story was originally published by the independent, non-profit newsroom ProPublica.
I guess my first instincts were right. Rest in Peace Trayvon.