So I wanted to check and see who owns The Carlyle Group and found this on their website:
Carlyle is a publicly traded partnership, which began trading on the NASDAQ market under the CG ticker symbol on May 3, 2012. Carlyle has three groups of owners: employees of Carlyle who are equity partners, strategic investors Mubadala Development Company and CalPERS, and public unitholders.
Then I checked on Mubadala Dev. Co and found this: That they are a wholly owned investment vehicle for the Emirate of Abu Dhabi and that their SOLE SHAREHOLDER is the Gov of the Emirate of Abu Dhabi. And that the word “mubadala” means exchange….
Trying to connect some dots here…and it doesn’t look great from here.
Hey, Chips, I left a response on the previous thread thanking you for your tweet on Sandy Hook, which reminded all us to focus on reality and not on abstractions. These photos of the lives of immigrants do the same.The outrages about the NSA and privacy is all about abstract potential abuses in the future. So far, I’ve seen no evidence that the privacy of innocent Americans have been compromised. Yet the media, pundits, and politicians spend so much time and energy on this but not enough time dealing with the reality of gun violence and the hallowing experience of immigrants.
OMG. I saw coverage of that earlier in the day – possibly on CNN – and meant to comment here but had forgotten about it. It was devastating to see the mothers and fathers on one side of that awful fence, and the young adults on the other side.
sorry – late into the conversation but interested to know why a young guy with libertarian leanings enlist in order to fight in Iraq in 2004 ?? i’m Australian but wasn’t the war in disfavour by 2004? The world was appalled in 2003 and many Americans protested. I don’t understand his enlistment.
Believe me when I tell you this! Most Libertarians, especially right leaning lived Bush, and that was his re election year.
Maybe that’s his motive to fight?
Would you believe……idealistic ass that came face-to-face with the harsh realities of life and refuse to acknowledge them. Everything must be TOTALLY logical and convertible to binary……..A modern day Dr. Spock lacking adaptibility!
Jovie, thank you for sharing the most beautiful pics about our incredible universe! With all these wonders, why do we (humans) take ourselves so seriously?
Because there a lot of folks out there that have a real inflated estimate of their worth in the grand scheme of things. And that ain’t gonna change. Give ’em a gun and they’re king of the county!
As I sit and contemplate this photo, I remember the first time I looked at the sky without any frame of reference and it both amazed and frightened me.
I was on a ship in the middle of the Atlantic Ocean there were stars from horizon to horizon for 360 degrees. The nearest land was 5 miles beneath the ship. It came to me how insignificant I was in the scheme of things………..!
You nailed it buddy; each time I’m at sea I marvel at how insignificant I am and how great God is. One of my nightly rituals, at sea, is to stand on my balcony, watch the stars, and sing “How Great Thou Art.”
The only sea going I do these days are jazz cruises…
During my career, I spent one night on the Shreveport during an evacuation exercise in 1975. In 1976, there was a bi-centennial cruise to South America and the Caribbean, it was all community service and liberty; I lobbied hard for the Marine Corps to send a platoon of women — something that required congressional approval, needless to say, the proposal sank like a pebble tossed in the ocean. Unfortunately, the things I wanted to do were not opened to women until I was within months of retirement…
They may not be stopped & frisked in NYC, but I hear GITMO is looking to fill some spaces one of these fine days. We could send Sheriff A-hole of AZ to guard ’em, without air conditioning, and he’ll bring the pink jumpsuits. Can you just imagine Chris Hayes’ trying to talk his way out of it, with his high-pitched voice?
Was anyone else watching LOD when Joy Reid “respectfully” schooled Howard Dean? Can’t quote exactly what was said but basically Dean talked about being oppressed by the NSA being able to look at his records . Joy Reid first gave him some history that when the NSA was created under President Truman for the purpose of intelligence for the US. She went on to remind him that Snowden gave intelligence information to China. She concluded that given that companies like Google, Facebook, etc. had access to her records, then how can you feel oppressed by the government.
It was a joy to watch and LOD also seemed to be enjoying the schooling of Dean.
I love Joy’s quickness in her answers and the way she pushes back. She was not letting Dean get away with anything. She knows her stuff and is very credible.
She is absolutely BRILLIANT. No nonsense. F.A.C.T.S. She’s strong yet she doesn’t bully others. She’s fantastic. There should be a campaign to pressure MSNBC to give her a show on prime time.
someone linked a clip here of her recently, and that was the first time i saw her speak. yes, even better than imagined. joy ann reid is a superstar, for real. perhaps she can try to slow down a little with her speech pattern, otherwise she was PERFECT in what i saw.
also, i remember recently she went along briefly about some ginned up online progressive poutrage, and then within the same day, she thought about it more and said she was taking back what she had said earlier that day. how amazingly refreshing and mature for a news commentator today! the billionaire owners of all the major “news” typically do not want someone as smart and strong as she is, not to mention her gender and skin tone influencing voters, so i don’t expect to see her getting promoted very far, or at least last there for more than a year or two. hope i’m wrong though!
I think I recall Joy’s tweeting out that she had changed her mind about that one poutrage, because I believe I congratulated her for doing it. She’s great.
1. Any day now, John McCain will suggest we skip Syria and Iran and just go ahead and invade China.
2. The more I hear about this matter, the more I am convinced that President Obama will turn it into a win-win. China is already in a CYA pose with these “U.S. global surveillance” assertions, and I believe Pres. Obama will spot that as an additional weakness on their part and pounce, using all of it to his (and our country’s) advantage. Now, if I knew how, I’d be working at the White House.
3. The abstract “classified information shown to reporters” becomes a little less abstract when you think that an American citizen like Snowball is said to be sharing secrets not just with a newspaper, but with the Chinese government … except for people like Greenwald and his groupies who have no idea the kind of trouble they are in. No idea.
i still think it’s no coincidence the gagme/snowjob bombshell dropped just when pbo was meeting with china’s leader. anything to undercut the president, even if it means bringing down the country too.
Thank you so much Lamh36 for sharing this. O.K. now, all those defenders of Snowden and Greenwald need to tell us why these two are not the most despicable traitors!
So I take offspring to the retirement recital for his former music teacher and Chips and the Chipadees become really prolific – Not sure now WHERE to start! 🙄
this is so hard to watch, and so necessary. thank you prettyfoot for reminding us what it is exactly we’re talking about when we reference the african american experience.
Sweet Honey and the Rock had their origins in the 1962 Albany, Georgia, movement. This is a movement that truly challenged the skills of MLK as a leader. The Albany, Georgia was also movement led by forgotten grassroots people like the young SNCC leader, Charles Sherrod, husband of Shirley Sherrod. This is why I get so angry when I see privileged people, like Chris Hayes, comparing the equally privileged, Edward Snowden, with leaders of the Civil Rights movement. Dr. King was arrested and spent days in jail in Albany; and so were thousands of ordinary black folks whose names will never appear in the history books.
YW, Sabreen. I love the group too. I particularly cherish this particular ballad over their other songs because it taught me something I hadn’t heard about before: Harry Moore
The NSA FISA and President Obama Did He Lie to Anyone?… Posted by adept2u
In a dangerous world, government must have the authority to collect the intelligence we need to protect the American people. But in a free society, that authority cannot be unlimited. As I’ve said many times, an independent monitor must watch the watchers to prevent abuses and to protect the civil liberties of the American people. This compromise law assures that the FISA court has that responsibility
I have been arguing with people on facebook for the past two day. I had one gentleman in England say he didn’t understand why we would call him a traitor and that folks in Europe like what he did; they are very upset that the US collects their data because they themselves voted down such measures in their own countries. He is a very liberal person and I agree with him 95% of the time. I wrote some pretty detailed replies. He sometimes doesn’t get the nuances behind the stories – didn’t understand why this had anything to do with President Obama. However he hates shoddy thought and reporting and will challenge me (in a nice way) if don’t cite a source or post something sloppy. So It keeps me on my toes. I’m going to post some of the take=downs of Glenn’s journalistic failures and I think that will be the end of the argument.
However I am really tired of this. I look and the President and he is just calmly moving on, not trying to convince people of anything, just doing his job. So I’m going to stop engaging and just keep posting good stuff like the stop-and-frisk challenge. This nonsense is going to play itself out and in the end the president will make something good come out of it. And by 2014 the only people who will care are the real insaniacs like the person who posted the meme Bradley Manning/ Edward Snowdon for POTUS/VPOTUS for and HONEST AMERICA!). These “The Other 98% People” are rabid. I can feel the spittle right through the computer screen.
I know a person like that from Holland. I think sometimes Europeans have a naive and provincial way of looking at things. Also, many of them hold hidden resentment toward the US and its policies anyway. Our country, being a world super power, is going to go about protecting it’s interests in vastly more complicated and extreme ways compared to smaller countries. Your friend may never be able to grasp this.
People are turning on Snowjob hardcore in the comments section of SF Chronicle (which was calling him a patriot just two days ago). It’s really quite astonishing and hilarious to see.. I hope Greenwald’s career is close to being over because of all this. He made a fool of a lot of people.
thanks for your report, cali. this episode is a good reminder to check sources, and reserve judgement on big, explosive issues. lots of folks are walking back their early outrage, now they know what’s really going on.
‘ The federal government in Hawaii is pursuing yet another case about leaked defense secrets — this time involving a high-ranking military officer.
Major Seivirak Inson, 43, is a soldier assigned to Schofield Barracks who is a longtime Army intelligence officer who has served in Iraq.
In court martial proceedings today, military prosecutors alleged that Inson attempted to hand over a number of military secrets to members connected to the Cambodian government between 2009 and 2012.
They said that Inson — who is of Cambodian ancestry — took classified U.S. intelligence reports about the Cambodian military and gave it to unauthorized personnel.
Prosecutors said they also found military secrets illegally stored on Inson’s home computer.
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The case represents the third major national intelligence breach in Hawaii during the past several months.
Benjamin Bishop — the 59-year-old government contractor and army reservist from Kapolei –was indicted in March for leaking classified documents to woman from China who was half his age.
Also, Edward Snowden — who blew the whistle on the federal government’s massive surveillance scheme — collected much of that information while working for contractor Booz Allen Hamilton’s Hawaii office. ‘
Hi SW! Top of the morning to you! I decided to go and have an early breakfast to kill time, which means I can wait for a long time for R & S without falling apart from hunger.
I must tell you that my message light FINALLY returned from its unscheduled vacay last night so I was able to see your solution for the next time. Don’t tell anyone, but I had never previously noticed the ‘W’ you referred to, so of course did quite a search before it ‘W’aved at me! 😛 Thanks.
I went to reboot and got sidetracked so I missed being able to monitor Chips’ big entrance. 😀 The time stamp seems ‘reasonable’ though so maybe my early meal did help to push things forward, or the fact that I left to reboot. 😉 😉
Oh, yikes! Are you having trouble with other sites too VC, or just this one? I know when I have connection-speed problems it can be painfully slow to load, all the pics and videos cause that. Or, is it a general computery meltdown you’re experiencing?!
My expert analysis is that it has something to do with WPress and the ‘cleaning’ I did. I might have removed something that shouldn’t have been removed – like the surgeon who repaired the healthy part of the body, you know.
A very ‘Good Morning’ to you CC! 😆 It’s great to see you up and about and cheery so ‘early’ in the morning. Thanks for all the stuff you’ve put together to keep me focused here, and therefore out of trouble(chores). Much appreciated!
/dismayed/ Donuts? I was hoping for raisin nut muffins. Is it too, too late to substitute those? Or whip up a batch for the late arrivals?Morning, PF58 😉
This has got to be the slowest my computer has ever been!!! That little thingy at the top keeps turning around and around and around instead of getting to the page! So much for the new premium protection that’s supposed to clean and speed everything up. /silent screeeeeaam /
Nothing more frustrating right? Is it just this website or is it all websites? If it’s all websites it might be your internet connection. It might need to just be rebooted – unplug everything for your wireless, wait 30 seconds, do a dance, and plug back in.
I have only been on this site between last night and tonight. I’ll go unplug right now, thanks F50. Hadn’t thought of that. …and ‘Good Morning’ to you!
Not sure it will work but if it doesn’t try going to another 5 websites to see if the speed is different. That way you will know if it’s WordPress or your computer.
I lasted until the end of the 2nd OT but with 20 minutes in between I missed the winning goal. But it was fun to wake up and see that the Blackhawks took the all important 1st game at home. Any Chicagoans stay up to see it?
I was forced to—mr. dotster had it on bdrm. TV. I had been checking the game and score and couldn’t believe it was still going on hour after hour. Lots of bleary-eyed Chgoans today—-including the Blackhawks players, I assume. Quite the game, impressive come from behind win.
Snowden’s historic leak revealed what he calls an “architecture of oppression”—a series of top-secret surveillance programs that go far beyond what has been publicly known to date.
Last evening on The Last Word, Howard Dean talks about his concerns about this “architecture of oppression” in that “…we need to figure out how we can balance the need for security and inspection and the need for freedom and to prevent government from overreaching and using this kind of information to oppress people.,,,not saying that the United States is an oppressive government but other governments that are oppressive governments start by getting information and by spying on their own people…”
LOD commented that he believes Snowden’s uses the phrase “architecture of oppression” to mean we are oppressed.
Joy Reid gets into the irony of Snowden talking about the architecture of oppression and government oppressing us in CHINA! She notes that whether he government sifting through reams of general data…is a good idea is debatable, but calling that oppression means that the phone company, Google, gmail, Facebook, etc. are pretty much oppressing us.
Dean comes back and says he [Snowden] didn’t say “oppression”, he said the “architecture of oppression.”
Isn’t this just a play on words? Given the means in which the information was leaked and the way GG, Hayes, et al are going on and on about privacy rights and illegality of surveillance and government having access to your records, isn’t the intent to give the perception that we are being oppressed by our government?
Following is the link to the segment of The Last Word that includes Joy Reid and Howard Dean. The first 2:50 has NSA director answering questions at Senate Hearing.
Sw, I think the US government is a protective gov not oppressive. If the American people saw what PBO sees every morning during the security briefing they would be horrified!
Good morning, everyone!
Cleansing, warm, restoring rain falling in NYC. Gray skies, but I see a sliver lining blue way off.
Grass is green; getting greener. Trees are beautiful, the soil is soaking all the rain it can now because it knows hot July and August is coming.
Today, I am going to take example from PBO and keep it moving….I think I will go walk in the rain without an umbrella, I feel just that good. I am not reading or thinking negative thoughts today. It is all going to work out for good . I am focusing on 2014 starting today!
Thank you God, POB is in the WH after all we have been through……I am grateful.
Obama White House.gov
The Obama Diary 
Hello!
President Obama is soooo protected!
Thank yoooooooooooooooooou UT!!
Congratulations #1 and #2!
So I wanted to check and see who owns The Carlyle Group and found this on their website:
Carlyle is a publicly traded partnership, which began trading on the NASDAQ market under the CG ticker symbol on May 3, 2012. Carlyle has three groups of owners: employees of Carlyle who are equity partners, strategic investors Mubadala Development Company and CalPERS, and public unitholders.
Then I checked on Mubadala Dev. Co and found this: That they are a wholly owned investment vehicle for the Emirate of Abu Dhabi and that their SOLE SHAREHOLDER is the Gov of the Emirate of Abu Dhabi. And that the word “mubadala” means exchange….
Trying to connect some dots here…and it doesn’t look great from here.
The scary thing is how corporations like Carlyle are interwoven in so many other corporations. Check this out:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carlyle_Group
Dylan’s tribute starts at 3:30 minute mark….better audio version in the NPR link.
If you take the 9 minutes to watch this gem, listening to the lyrics, I promise, You won’t be sorry. have tissue box handy.
Is May 3rd the day that Snowden left Booz Allen?????
Earth in 2 billion years-
http://science.discovery.com/tv-shows/through-the-wormhole/videos/death-of-the-sun.htm#mkcpgn=fbsci1
Fun read….Cedric Richmond (D-La) can still throw an eighty mile an hour fastball!!
Smartypants. Now. http://immasmartypants.blogspot.com/2013/06/photo-of-day-immigration-is-about.html
We need to GET THIS DONE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Oh my God, that is heartbreaking…
Heartbreaking. If any one of us were to put ourselves in their place….I can’t even wrap my head around that.
One of the most powerful images I’ve ever seen DF, completely iconic – it should be used as the image for the immigration reform campaign.
I could not agree more. Powerful, powerful image
Hey, Chips, I left a response on the previous thread thanking you for your tweet on Sandy Hook, which reminded all us to focus on reality and not on abstractions. These photos of the lives of immigrants do the same.The outrages about the NSA and privacy is all about abstract potential abuses in the future. So far, I’ve seen no evidence that the privacy of innocent Americans have been compromised. Yet the media, pundits, and politicians spend so much time and energy on this but not enough time dealing with the reality of gun violence and the hallowing experience of immigrants.
OMG. I saw coverage of that earlier in the day – possibly on CNN – and meant to comment here but had forgotten about it. It was devastating to see the mothers and fathers on one side of that awful fence, and the young adults on the other side.
Doesn’t look like the Statue of Liberty to me.
Very nice! Love me some Yolanda Adams.
That would be great! Thank you, President Obama.
sorry – late into the conversation but interested to know why a young guy with libertarian leanings enlist in order to fight in Iraq in 2004 ?? i’m Australian but wasn’t the war in disfavour by 2004? The world was appalled in 2003 and many Americans protested. I don’t understand his enlistment.
referring to Snowden
Believe me when I tell you this! Most Libertarians, especially right leaning lived Bush, and that was his re election year.
Maybe that’s his motive to fight?
Loved
Would you believe……idealistic ass that came face-to-face with the harsh realities of life and refuse to acknowledge them. Everything must be TOTALLY logical and convertible to binary……..A modern day Dr. Spock lacking adaptibility!
How wonderful!
Jovie, thank you for sharing the most beautiful pics about our incredible universe! With all these wonders, why do we (humans) take ourselves so seriously?
Because there a lot of folks out there that have a real inflated estimate of their worth in the grand scheme of things. And that ain’t gonna change. Give ’em a gun and they’re king of the county!
As I sit and contemplate this photo, I remember the first time I looked at the sky without any frame of reference and it both amazed and frightened me.
I was on a ship in the middle of the Atlantic Ocean there were stars from horizon to horizon for 360 degrees. The nearest land was 5 miles beneath the ship. It came to me how insignificant I was in the scheme of things………..!
You nailed it buddy; each time I’m at sea I marvel at how insignificant I am and how great God is. One of my nightly rituals, at sea, is to stand on my balcony, watch the stars, and sing “How Great Thou Art.”
Ooo. I had no idea you were still sea going. Fair winds and following seas to you.
The only sea going I do these days are jazz cruises…
During my career, I spent one night on the Shreveport during an evacuation exercise in 1975. In 1976, there was a bi-centennial cruise to South America and the Caribbean, it was all community service and liberty; I lobbied hard for the Marine Corps to send a platoon of women — something that required congressional approval, needless to say, the proposal sank like a pebble tossed in the ocean. Unfortunately, the things I wanted to do were not opened to women until I was within months of retirement…
Okay….You restored my faith in my own assessment ability. 😀
Awww, the Blind Boys of Alabama are one of my favorites! Thank you for this post, UT!
I like the 5 Blind Boys too.
Jesus!!
Wow. Hope all of our Chicago-area friends are okay, tonight!
amen. that’s a scary-looking storm!
it was just a regular storm. unless the burbs got hit harder, we were fine in the city.
Good. Sounded scary on the teevee!
Yeah thanks. We had a hum-dinger around here for a bit.
Sorry to hear that! Glad about the “for a bit” part.
Wow! These are some powerful images! I hope all the people in Chicago are O.K.!
They may not be stopped & frisked in NYC, but I hear GITMO is looking to fill some spaces one of these fine days. We could send Sheriff A-hole of AZ to guard ’em, without air conditioning, and he’ll bring the pink jumpsuits. Can you just imagine Chris Hayes’ trying to talk his way out of it, with his high-pitched voice?
If you are Black or Brown, Female, they are not interested.,,,,,,,
Not sure if this is true. Only source so far is The New York Post and that’s Rupert Murdoch rag. Haven’t seen anything on DOJ website or twitter feed.
1.14 per gallon. Get yours today!
4.59 today for gas, and higher other places around town in Chicago.
Was anyone else watching LOD when Joy Reid “respectfully” schooled Howard Dean? Can’t quote exactly what was said but basically Dean talked about being oppressed by the NSA being able to look at his records . Joy Reid first gave him some history that when the NSA was created under President Truman for the purpose of intelligence for the US. She went on to remind him that Snowden gave intelligence information to China. She concluded that given that companies like Google, Facebook, etc. had access to her records, then how can you feel oppressed by the government.
It was a joy to watch and LOD also seemed to be enjoying the schooling of Dean.
I like Dean, but he’s getting a bit old hat. Joy Reid is not.
I love Joy’s quickness in her answers and the way she pushes back. She was not letting Dean get away with anything. She knows her stuff and is very credible.
Love her.
She is absolutely BRILLIANT. No nonsense. F.A.C.T.S. She’s strong yet she doesn’t bully others. She’s fantastic. There should be a campaign to pressure MSNBC to give her a show on prime time.
someone linked a clip here of her recently, and that was the first time i saw her speak. yes, even better than imagined. joy ann reid is a superstar, for real. perhaps she can try to slow down a little with her speech pattern, otherwise she was PERFECT in what i saw.
also, i remember recently she went along briefly about some ginned up online progressive poutrage, and then within the same day, she thought about it more and said she was taking back what she had said earlier that day. how amazingly refreshing and mature for a news commentator today! the billionaire owners of all the major “news” typically do not want someone as smart and strong as she is, not to mention her gender and skin tone influencing voters, so i don’t expect to see her getting promoted very far, or at least last there for more than a year or two. hope i’m wrong though!
I think I recall Joy’s tweeting out that she had changed her mind about that one poutrage, because I believe I congratulated her for doing it. She’s great.
For the record ….
Naw, ya think?
Snowden revelations on NSA strain US-China relations, says Beijing
1. Any day now, John McCain will suggest we skip Syria and Iran and just go ahead and invade China.
2. The more I hear about this matter, the more I am convinced that President Obama will turn it into a win-win. China is already in a CYA pose with these “U.S. global surveillance” assertions, and I believe Pres. Obama will spot that as an additional weakness on their part and pounce, using all of it to his (and our country’s) advantage. Now, if I knew how, I’d be working at the White House.
3. The abstract “classified information shown to reporters” becomes a little less abstract when you think that an American citizen like Snowball is said to be sharing secrets not just with a newspaper, but with the Chinese government … except for people like Greenwald and his groupies who have no idea the kind of trouble they are in. No idea.
i still think it’s no coincidence the gagme/snowjob bombshell dropped just when pbo was meeting with china’s leader. anything to undercut the president, even if it means bringing down the country too.
not that i think they can or will bring down the country. just that they don’t consider the consequences.
Thank you so much Lamh36 for sharing this. O.K. now, all those defenders of Snowden and Greenwald need to tell us why these two are not the most despicable traitors!
Triple bottom line ….
Yes We Will
So I take offspring to the retirement recital for his former music teacher and Chips and the Chipadees become really prolific – Not sure now WHERE to start! 🙄
this is so hard to watch, and so necessary. thank you prettyfoot for reminding us what it is exactly we’re talking about when we reference the african american experience.
yes….
Freedom never dies…
thank you vc. love sweet honey.
Me too. Isonprize introduced them to me (to TOD village really) a while back.
Sweet Honey and the Rock had their origins in the 1962 Albany, Georgia, movement. This is a movement that truly challenged the skills of MLK as a leader. The Albany, Georgia was also movement led by forgotten grassroots people like the young SNCC leader, Charles Sherrod, husband of Shirley Sherrod. This is why I get so angry when I see privileged people, like Chris Hayes, comparing the equally privileged, Edward Snowden, with leaders of the Civil Rights movement. Dr. King was arrested and spent days in jail in Albany; and so were thousands of ordinary black folks whose names will never appear in the history books.
Appreciate you, and others who were witnesses or participants, sharing as you did here, Nathk.
I always learn something new from you, sweet nath:) Thanks for sharing that bit of insight….now off to bed for me. See you all tomorrow. We march on!
Make it plain my brother. Make it plain!
Thank you. Still love Sweet Honey, even without Bernice Johnson Reagon who is leading this song.
YW, Sabreen. I love the group too. I particularly cherish this particular ballad over their other songs because it taught me something I hadn’t heard about before: Harry Moore
http://www.thepeoplesview.net/2013/06/the-nsa-fisa-and-president-obama-did-he.html
The NSA FISA and President Obama Did He Lie to Anyone?… Posted by adept2u
In a dangerous world, government must have the authority to collect the intelligence we need to protect the American people. But in a free society, that authority cannot be unlimited. As I’ve said many times, an independent monitor must watch the watchers to prevent abuses and to protect the civil liberties of the American people. This compromise law assures that the FISA court has that responsibility
Heavy eyes are weighing me down so I’m turning in … for now.
I have been arguing with people on facebook for the past two day. I had one gentleman in England say he didn’t understand why we would call him a traitor and that folks in Europe like what he did; they are very upset that the US collects their data because they themselves voted down such measures in their own countries. He is a very liberal person and I agree with him 95% of the time. I wrote some pretty detailed replies. He sometimes doesn’t get the nuances behind the stories – didn’t understand why this had anything to do with President Obama. However he hates shoddy thought and reporting and will challenge me (in a nice way) if don’t cite a source or post something sloppy. So It keeps me on my toes. I’m going to post some of the take=downs of Glenn’s journalistic failures and I think that will be the end of the argument.
However I am really tired of this. I look and the President and he is just calmly moving on, not trying to convince people of anything, just doing his job. So I’m going to stop engaging and just keep posting good stuff like the stop-and-frisk challenge. This nonsense is going to play itself out and in the end the president will make something good come out of it. And by 2014 the only people who will care are the real insaniacs like the person who posted the meme Bradley Manning/ Edward Snowdon for POTUS/VPOTUS for and HONEST AMERICA!). These “The Other 98% People” are rabid. I can feel the spittle right through the computer screen.
I know a person like that from Holland. I think sometimes Europeans have a naive and provincial way of looking at things. Also, many of them hold hidden resentment toward the US and its policies anyway. Our country, being a world super power, is going to go about protecting it’s interests in vastly more complicated and extreme ways compared to smaller countries. Your friend may never be able to grasp this.
give your hands to struggle
In summary ….
…. time for some rest ….
#TrustBarack
People are turning on Snowjob hardcore in the comments section of SF Chronicle (which was calling him a patriot just two days ago). It’s really quite astonishing and hilarious to see.. I hope Greenwald’s career is close to being over because of all this. He made a fool of a lot of people.
thanks for your report, cali. this episode is a good reminder to check sources, and reserve judgement on big, explosive issues. lots of folks are walking back their early outrage, now they know what’s really going on.
triple overtime.
Go Blackhawks.!!!!!!!!!!!!!
another spy gets caught:
‘ The federal government in Hawaii is pursuing yet another case about leaked defense secrets — this time involving a high-ranking military officer.
Major Seivirak Inson, 43, is a soldier assigned to Schofield Barracks who is a longtime Army intelligence officer who has served in Iraq.
In court martial proceedings today, military prosecutors alleged that Inson attempted to hand over a number of military secrets to members connected to the Cambodian government between 2009 and 2012.
They said that Inson — who is of Cambodian ancestry — took classified U.S. intelligence reports about the Cambodian military and gave it to unauthorized personnel.
Prosecutors said they also found military secrets illegally stored on Inson’s home computer.
~
The case represents the third major national intelligence breach in Hawaii during the past several months.
Benjamin Bishop — the 59-year-old government contractor and army reservist from Kapolei –was indicted in March for leaking classified documents to woman from China who was half his age.
Also, Edward Snowden — who blew the whistle on the federal government’s massive surveillance scheme — collected much of that information while working for contractor Booz Allen Hamilton’s Hawaii office. ‘
http://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/story/22579286/yet-another-espionage-case-hits-hawaii
Have you gone to bed? Sweet dreams!
GOOD Morning! I am willing it to be!
Hi Susanne.
Good morning all. Sunshine, warmth and a good cup of coffee. Life is good.
Good Morning VC and Layla,,,Susanne too if you’re still up!
Good morning to you swbluega! Have a great positive day! Also if GB is around, have a good productive day!
Hi SW! Top of the morning to you! I decided to go and have an early breakfast to kill time, which means I can wait for a long time for R & S without falling apart from hunger.
I must tell you that my message light FINALLY returned from its unscheduled vacay last night so I was able to see your solution for the next time. Don’t tell anyone, but I had never previously noticed the ‘W’ you referred to, so of course did quite a search before it ‘W’aved at me! 😛 Thanks.
Maybe your early breakfast will mean an early-ish R & S. 😀
I went to reboot and got sidetracked so I missed being able to monitor Chips’ big entrance. 😀 The time stamp seems ‘reasonable’ though so maybe my early meal did help to push things forward, or the fact that I left to reboot. 😉 😉
Moooooorning VC! Are you malfunctioning again??
Don’t I always? 🙄 However, this seems like a continued fallout of the ‘fix-it’ I performed recently.
Now I’ll have to discard that
“Expert-ISH Computer Repa…” sign that I started in the afterglow of my ‘success’.
Oh, yikes! Are you having trouble with other sites too VC, or just this one? I know when I have connection-speed problems it can be painfully slow to load, all the pics and videos cause that. Or, is it a general computery meltdown you’re experiencing?!
::cough:: I really wouldn’t know CC as I don’t have TIME to visit other sites.
My expert analysis is that it has something to do with WPress and the ‘cleaning’ I did. I might have removed something that shouldn’t have been removed – like the surgeon who repaired the healthy part of the body, you know.
😆 Always be careful about what you remove, from computer or body!
Hmmm. So that’s why I haven’t removed my fat yet. I was being careful. Thanks Chica! 😀 😀
A very ‘Good Morning’ to you CC! 😆 It’s great to see you up and about and cheery so ‘early’ in the morning. Thanks for all the stuff you’ve put together to keep me focused here, and therefore out of trouble(chores). Much appreciated!
‘Scuse me, why was early in quotey thingies?? 🙂 Thank you VC!!!!
Gooooooood Morning everyone…..
time to make the donuts….
Shhhh! prettyfoot, Knoller may stalk you!
😆
hahahahaha
/dismayed/ Donuts? I was hoping for raisin nut muffins. Is it too, too late to substitute those? Or whip up a batch for the late arrivals?Morning, PF58 😉
hahahahahah….
PF58, I’m guessing that fiendish laughter means it’s too late. What about tomorrow then?
Saturday..l.ove ya VC…you are so full of joy and sunshine…it is the least that I can do…smilin
Okay, I can wait….maybe… but now I’m adding w/w flour AND fresh fruits (because you have extra time to shop) 😉 {{PF58}}
Delusions of grandeur!!!!
A good insanity defense!
He’s a wacko. I would love for the Chinese to turn him over to us.
This has got to be the slowest my computer has ever been!!! That little thingy at the top keeps turning around and around and around instead of getting to the page! So much for the new premium protection that’s supposed to clean and speed everything up. /silent screeeeeaam /
Nothing more frustrating right? Is it just this website or is it all websites? If it’s all websites it might be your internet connection. It might need to just be rebooted – unplug everything for your wireless, wait 30 seconds, do a dance, and plug back in.
I have only been on this site between last night and tonight. I’ll go unplug right now, thanks F50. Hadn’t thought of that. …and ‘Good Morning’ to you!
Not sure it will work but if it doesn’t try going to another 5 websites to see if the speed is different. That way you will know if it’s WordPress or your computer.
TY 4 all suggestions, F50. I THINK it’s better, for now. I’ll see how the day progresses and make use of any of them /all of them 😉 if necessary.
Did you try closing out WP and trying again? Sometimes the whole system needs a reboot, too.
TY, off to try this.
I lasted until the end of the 2nd OT but with 20 minutes in between I missed the winning goal. But it was fun to wake up and see that the Blackhawks took the all important 1st game at home. Any Chicagoans stay up to see it?
https://twitter.com/Austin_Powers__/status/345043408622075904
I was forced to—mr. dotster had it on bdrm. TV. I had been checking the game and score and couldn’t believe it was still going on hour after hour. Lots of bleary-eyed Chgoans today—-including the Blackhawks players, I assume. Quite the game, impressive come from behind win.
dotser, lol, a doubleheader! 🙂
Oppression vs Architecture of Oppression???
Snowden’s historic leak revealed what he calls an “architecture of oppression”—a series of top-secret surveillance programs that go far beyond what has been publicly known to date.
Last evening on The Last Word, Howard Dean talks about his concerns about this “architecture of oppression” in that “…we need to figure out how we can balance the need for security and inspection and the need for freedom and to prevent government from overreaching and using this kind of information to oppress people.,,,not saying that the United States is an oppressive government but other governments that are oppressive governments start by getting information and by spying on their own people…”
LOD commented that he believes Snowden’s uses the phrase “architecture of oppression” to mean we are oppressed.
Joy Reid gets into the irony of Snowden talking about the architecture of oppression and government oppressing us in CHINA! She notes that whether he government sifting through reams of general data…is a good idea is debatable, but calling that oppression means that the phone company, Google, gmail, Facebook, etc. are pretty much oppressing us.
Dean comes back and says he [Snowden] didn’t say “oppression”, he said the “architecture of oppression.”
Isn’t this just a play on words? Given the means in which the information was leaked and the way GG, Hayes, et al are going on and on about privacy rights and illegality of surveillance and government having access to your records, isn’t the intent to give the perception that we are being oppressed by our government?
Following is the link to the segment of The Last Word that includes Joy Reid and Howard Dean. The first 2:50 has NSA director answering questions at Senate Hearing.
http://www.nbcnews.com/id/45755883/ns/msnbc-the_last_word/vp/52187443#52187443
Sw, I think the US government is a protective gov not oppressive. If the American people saw what PBO sees every morning during the security briefing they would be horrified!
Positive news that won’t be conveyed by the MSM…thank you for sharing it to start the day Hopefruit2.
Good morning, everyone!
Cleansing, warm, restoring rain falling in NYC. Gray skies, but I see a sliver lining blue way off.
Grass is green; getting greener. Trees are beautiful, the soil is soaking all the rain it can now because it knows hot July and August is coming.
Today, I am going to take example from PBO and keep it moving….I think I will go walk in the rain without an umbrella, I feel just that good. I am not reading or thinking negative thoughts today. It is all going to work out for good . I am focusing on 2014 starting today!
Thank you God, POB is in the WH after all we have been through……I am grateful.
For all the MD/DC/VA folks 🙂
thanks hf, just got caught in the first deluge of the day!
Please heed warnings, and be safe sherijr! 🙂
we are staying in the rest of the day 🙂 – you be safe also Hopefruit.
Mooooooooorning!!
http://theobamadiary.com/2013/06/13/rise-and-shine-527/